Ip-6 Vs. Mgn-3

Does anyone know the difference between IP-6 and MGN-3? Is one better than the other? Thanks for any feedback on this.

Hi, I'm taking IP-6 powder form. I don't know what MGN-3 is. Is it possibly the same thing but different manufacturer? Just a thought.

Both are made from Mushrooms, and mushroom blends.----Primary difference is the manufacture and extraction process, and there is a difference in the "total ingredients". Another that has been around longer and more information because of length of use is called "AHCC". Pharmaceutical from Japan, of the mushroom extracts. Body has hundreds of types of white blood cells. These products (and AHCC) cause the T cell, NK cell, and some other white blood cells to increase by %500+, and increase the body's immune response. These products are paid for by Insurance in Japan, have been in use for over 20 years, lots of control study info available, AND are one of the first prescriptions for a cancer diagnosis in Japan. The only thing to be aware of is if the research is done independently or by the company. MGN is too new to have a lot of track history----it cost more because it does not have the market base the AHCC has. They are GOOD, and they help immune system through chemos, and just in general cancer fight.

I am a physician assistant and have been taking
AHCC for a little over 6 weeks now. My NK cells
have increases by 109.8 and continue to raise
even after getting chemo. the alopecia (hair
loss) is almost non-existant too. My platelets
and other signs of bone marrow supression are
jmust not being affected either. My RBS, WBC,
platlett, and netrophiles are all increasing
instead of being wiped out by hte chem. I have
done alot of r3esearch in this area, and i
trying to do a clinicla study on my patients as
well. it truley seems it would be criminal to
not give this to every cancer patient I have.
there are too many studies on AHCC as well as
each of the three mushroom individually.
Various names for them, but some are absorbed
orally, and other only IV or IP. I can attest
to AHCC working for me, and I can show it
through my lab results. Several other people I
work with are now taking it, and I can't wait to
see if they have as good or better results with
it too. I have found the most complete book
reviewing all medicinal mushrooms, and it is no
longer online, but I have a copy. I'm trying to
make it available on my web site for everybody.
200+pages of very in dept info. Doctors can't
dismiss the numnerous studies that are out
there, they just read about the best thing for
us, but rather what the drug companies tell them
is the best we have to offer.

GOOD FOR YOU!!!! AHCC works synergisticly with particular chemos, especially the ovarian cancer chemos-----can increase the effectiveness of dosage by 60-80 per cent. pureprescriptions.com has some good articles, links and links to clinicals. You may want to check their site for info. Also I think (not sure) but high dose vitamin c is supposed to multiply the effect of the AHCC in the system. All I can say is go get em', and I agree that this should (like the Japanese) be the first medication given before the start of any chemo. The problem is that as not being classified as a "drug" the chemical companies cannot control access and therefore price, and so the FDA wont consider all the obvious information. As a PA you should be aware that the AMA philosophy is ---WE are your hope, and with chemicals and procedures will heal you, and with that attitude our medical system does not encourage use of the body mechanisms to work "cures".---------------Good luck. Post occasionaly and let everyone know your fight. THere is also some information available with using IP-6 with the AHCC and multiplying the effects.

This is kind of a late posting, but I am interested in any info on AHCC. I have researched it a lot. I have been taking 6 grams of AHCC since before I started my chemo for stage IV lung cancer. I had four cycles of chemo and went into remission. I have been cancer free since November 2005. I still take the AHCC plus a lot of other supplements. I still take Tarceva so I feel I still need the 6 grams. You can go to my story then you will be able to e-mail me. Type or pastes this address in your browser: If you can not copy and paste the first address, because it is too long, then go to the second address and follow the directions below it.

http://shareyourstory.livestrong.org /siteapps/personalpage/ShowPage.aspx?c=ijIVI2PFKoG&b=738859&sid=9iIKL0NFLbIUIaMGLmE" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://shareyourstory.livestrong.org /siteapps/personalpage/S

Second address:

http://shareyourstory.livestrong.org

Click on FIND A STORY at the left of screen; enter HAROLD in the first name box and NAPLES in the city box. Then click on submit. Click on the last name in red next to HAROLD. If you would like more info let me know. After you read my story you will be able to e-mail me. Ernie (Harold)

I went and read your story at the website you
provided. Just wondering why you never
mentioned AHCC in the story like you did on this
site? Just curious.

Chris,
The Livestrong web page is limited to the number of characters that you can put on to the page. There just was not enough room to put all the supplements and other things I did to fight my cancer. AHCC I know makes a difference. After my chemo I dropped back to 3 grams a day and I would wake up in the morning with a soar throat. I went back to 6 grams and it went away. I was still taking Tarceva so I think I still needed the AHCC even though I had stopped the chemo. I took a lot of other supplements and I think some of them helped a little, but AHCC, CoQ10, and Melatonin were the three best. You mentioned your web site, but did not give the name or address. I would be interested in your web site. Most people e-mail me after reading my story at Livestrong and then I send them a list of all the things I took. Below is a statement I gave my oncologist on why I think that I had such good results with my chemo. Let me know about your web site.
Ernie


Statement to doctors
Supplements taken during cycle 1 and cycle 2 of chemo: 2 grams AHCC 3 times a day between meals, 10mg melatonin before bed, 100mg CoQ10 breakfast and dinner, 1 tab Centrum Silver breakfast, 500mg Calcium breakfast and dinner, 4 tab Citrucel breakfast and dinner, 2 cap Cardio-Edge breakfast and dinner, 1 cap Policosanol breakfast and dinner. Added after first 2 cycles taken with cycle 3 and 4 and still do, but not within 24 hours of chemo. 500mg Green Tea, 100mg Grape seed extract, 320mg Garlic, 30mg zinc, 100mg B-6, all taken with breakfast. Foods I consumed every day, 3-4 egg white omelet, 1 cup Blueberries, 1 cup Raspberries, ¼ cup Dry Steal Cut Oatmeal, 4-6 oz Pomegranate Juice, 1-2 oz Noni Juice, 1 cup Soy Milk, 2Tbl Flax seed milled, 1Tbl Wheat Germ. 1 Whole Tomato, 3-4 Tbl Organic Almond Butter, 1 Whole Grain English Muffin, 1 tsp Cinnamon, 1 cup Yogurt, 12-15 8oz glasses of Mountain Valley Water( High Alkaline), Stevia instead of sugar. Other foods but not every day, Fish, heavy on Salmon, Lots of green veg, Chicken, Whole Wheat breads and pasta, sweet potatoes, Nuts, heavy on the Almonds, Soy meat substitutes. Foods excluded, Sweets- sugar, Alcohol, beef, White bread-potatoes-pasta. This got me through the chemo without losing any weight. I actually gained 10 pounds, so I have cut back on the quantity and increase the exercise to try and loose it. Other things that contributed most to managing my cancer. The knowledge that I have a God that has the power to heal me. Strong family support. Support from my Pastor and church. Support from prayer groups all over Florida. The doctors that God led me to. The ability to look forward to each Chemo treatment, I enjoyed every one of them. Being able to maintain my weight. No adverse side effects from chemo. Exercise Program. Exercise 6 Times a week, Weights 3 times a week upper body 40 mins, Aerobic 3 times a week. Tread Mill 47 min including 40 min 12 degree incline @ 4 MPH and 1 min 1.5 degree incline @ 8MPH.

Where is a reliable place to obtain AHCC?  Vickie

Hi Vickie......I was purchasing my AHCC through a clinic but found it quite expensive. I did a google search and found the exact thing on line at half the price. I have used two brands ( I have no connection to either) ImmPower and JHS Immune Builder... The best price I found was 25.99 for 60 capsules.Hope this helps..Shemay

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Where is a reliable place to obtain AHCC?  Vickie