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Subject: It came back!
Date: 05/01/2007

My Father was diagnossed July of 2005, with Esophagus Cancer, and then it was gone, I thought, Yes, it's over, but then on Friday, I got the call that I never expected, it was my step -mom saying that is was back and it was beyond help. I keep thinking that the doctors are wrong, you know they call it medical practice for a reason! But then I guess i have to face reality and realize that my Father may not be here to walk me down the isle, and that he won't be able to see my little brother and sister graduate high school, and that my son, and my niece and nephew will never know there Grandfather when they're older, and for my son, the only Father figure he has in his life will soon not be there.

Is there any hope that this will just disappear on it's own, is there any chance that one day he could just wake up and it will be gone. is there anything I can do to make this go away!!!

someone please tell me that there is hope even when everyone is telling you that there isn't, and i wish people would stop telling me to enjoy the time i have, i am and I will, but tell me that there is more time than what they're telling me!!

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Subject: RE: It came back!
Date: 05/01/2007
HELLO RE SAD BUT COPING......If you are new to the board you will not have read the message I posted here several weeks ago about a good friend of mine who had terminal prostate cancer and was told he only had weeks to live. That was back in December 2006. His oncologists are stunned at the complete reversal of his cancer. All his scans are clear. The treatments he took are all natural with no side effects. I know this is hard to believe but it is absolutely true. I will repost the story of his cure now and if your Dad is open to alternative therapies then he could contact me through a private message and I can give him more information. Please do not give up hope. Here is my friend's story............I am posting this story because it truly appears to be a miraculous result of a few weeks of non traditional treatments for terminal prostate cancer, a shift in intention and/or perhaps even Divine Intervention. A friend of mine was told in early December 2006 by oncologists that he would not survive to see Christmas. His wife who is a nurse, saw all of his scans and tests and understood she could soon be arranging for palliative care and making funeral arrangements. His cancer had spread throughout his body into most organs and bones and his lungs were so full he could hardly draw a breath. He was given steroids for pain control. After a few days of despair he decided to go ice fishing which is one of his great passions and something happened to change his mind set and he decided to fight. He made arrangements to take natural treatments at a complementary medical clinic nearby. He had about 12 weeks of weekly Intravenous Vitamin C/ Lipoic Acid infusions along with a 21 day course of daily injections of 714X. He did take one injection of Lupron at the beginning of these treatments. Today he has no symptoms of dis ease. He feels strong and healthy, takes no pain meds, has resumed all daily activities and his scans reflect this amazing change in his health. The oncologists who did his scans for him told him he should just keep up what he is doing. My understanding is that there are no side effects to these treatments other than a possible one to the high dose Vit.C if one has had a previous problem with kidney stones. I hope this message is helpful and hopeful to others and if anyone would like more information please feel free to contact me. Blessings Shemay P.S. Here are a few websites for you to do your own research regarding these treatments. Many positive outcomes. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?itool=abstract http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&d http://orthomolecular.org/library/ivccancerpt.shtml http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0NAH/is_9_31/ai_8 This website has a commercial aspect to it which may cause one to have a bit of a negative reaction but then again perhaps they are just trying to "pass forward" the knowledge they have acquired. http://www.billybest.net/billy'sstory.htm
Subject: RE: It came back!
Date: 05/01/2007

Shemay

 You ought not promulgate this outrageous nonsense to people who are desperate and looking for any ray of hope.  Complete remission of cancer metastatic to multiple organs does not happen from alternative therapy.  You ought to be ashamed of yourself!  If you have any decency at all, please stop this at once!  You should be ashamed of yourself.

Joan L

Subject: RE: It came back!
Date: 05/01/2007
Hello Joan 1.....I was just about to close my computer for the evening when I saw your message. You have every right to voice your opinion but it really is unfair that you would attack me personally for voicing mine. You know nothing about me, my character, nor my experience with this awful disease. I can show you case after case of cancer remissions and yes even "cures" through alternative treatments. I would only be ashamed of myself if I did not post these messages of hope and information because they are TRUE. I am speaking not only from my own experience but from the experience of many other people that I personally know who have taken the same path as I chose to do. I have absolutely nothing to gain from these messages but the satisfaction of knowing that I have helped others become healthy again through natural means. Complete remission of cancer metastatic to multiple organs SELDOM happens with traditional treatment and yet those destructive, painful treatments continue to be promoted. In my opinion that is the real shame. I know there are those that will never be convinced of the truth in what I say but I would never attempt to take away their right to post their messages or ridicule them personally and I would hope they would treat me with the same dignity. Respectfully Shemay

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Shemay

 You ought not promulgate this outrageous nonsense to people who are desperate and looking for any ray of hope.  Complete remission of cancer metastatic to multiple organs does not happen from alternative therapy.  You ought to be ashamed of yourself!  If you have any decency at all, please stop this at once!  You should be ashamed of yourself.

Joan L


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Subject: RE: It came back!
Date: 07/11/2007

Dear Sad But Coping:

 I hope this message hasn't reached you and your Dad too late.  Go to billybest.net and click on "Billy's Story" at the top of the page.

 (Joan L. -- Shame on YOU!!!)

Subject: RE: It came back!
Date: 07/11/2007

Hope is a more realistic part of recovery. A will to live, love for life. Willing to take as much medicine your body can take. Sometimes, the body cannot take a full regimen. There are far too many variables as to what a persons body and mind can tolerate. I researched EVERYTHING - alternative, traditional, clinical trials - he did it all. Complete lifestyle changes are a part of this. Should I? What about this? What happens when....?     

Suggest things to your Dad that you have found in your research. (Which for me was an absolute must...We (I) needed to know every option out there. I found clinical trials and explained what I could. He would decide if he was willing. Our "patients" know what they can tolerate when it comes to the "poisons" that do save some lives. When he could not tolerate a scheduled treatment, I explained to him the possible benefits of taking different forms of alternative medicine - AHCC, Glyconutrients, Flasxseed, fish oil, multi B liquid, etc. HE decided if he was willing and if it made him feel better. Most times it did. But he never left conventional, he counted on it. The alternatives were his back up when he felt lousy. You ask your Father, "Dad, I found something that may help get you through this." No matter what it may be. He calls the shots. HE is the one who will tell you the Flaxseed (just an example) makes him feel different. HE is the one who will tell you he is willing to try what the clinical trials, or conventional medicines are doing for him. Some who do go totally organic with mets everywhere get some relief, sometimes NED after awhile. There are very few "ultimate cures" with ec. Not trying anything and everything can leave you with regrets. But, it's up to your Dad and no one who decides this. Everyone has opinions and "miracle cures".  Your Dad is the one counting on you and his docs to give him every option available. You need to make sure he is informed and gets every available option. Coming here you find ideas and treatments that others have tried. See what your Father has to say about it.  This board is for support. So, take from here what you need that will help you, not anger you. Leave those on thier own personal vicious journey alone.   This is a disease so frightening to all affected. I hardly think you or Dad and your family have time right now to carry picket signs.  So, please, take comfort in the fact that most here are as frightened and feel just as helpless as you do. So, we try to help each other first so we can focus on "What Can We Do - What would he like for breakfast?" That's all you need to deal with right now. 15min at a time some days. Then, when you are sitting next your Dad, all you are grateful for is that you can talk to him. That will be your only focus. Whatever it takes. Ask him. Best to you.

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Subject: RE: It came back!
Date: 07/11/2007

conspiracy theories have always abounded in oncology.  Its not something new.  Those untrained in science want perfection from an imperfect art.  They want answers from that which often only creates more questions.  They want guarantees where none exist.  And so, they search elsewhere for those answers and guarantees expecting exactness from that which is inexact.   Unfortunetly those anwsers do not exist, neither from traditional medicine nor from non-traditional medicine.  Does that mean our system is perfect?  Hardly.  Does that mean big Pharma isnt greedy?  Hardly.  Does that mean new (or old) drugs that are not developed by big drug companies are hard to get approved?  You bet.  Does that mean there is some conspiracy in the medical-industrial complex whose goal is to keep patients sick and who squashes any "apparent cure" that is not of their own design?  You're kidding, right?  Our system may not be perfect, but its the best we have.  It does demand scientific proof for treatments as opposed to anecdotal stories about friends who used some seaweed extract to obtain a magical cure and, generally speaking ,it has the best interests of the patient in mind.  The conspiracy theories exist only in the imagination of those who perpetuate them.

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