What to expect with Whipple Procedure

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What to expect with Whipple Procedure

by Seven22 on Sun May 06, 2007 12:00 AM

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My dad is scheduled to have the Whipple Procedure.  He is very scared.  He wants to know if he can have a normal life after the Whipple.  Any input (good or bad) from people who have had this procedure would be greatly appreciated.  Any long term side effects?  How bad was the recovery and how long?  What did you use for pain?  His doctor is recommending a pump?  Also mentioned an epidural after surgery for pain?

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by Wake_up_Call on Mon May 07, 2007 12:00 AM

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My husband is 49 years old and had a whipple done 1/22 of this year.  We read everything and prepared ourselves for "the worst case scenario".  (Thank you God) That didn't happen.  We had one of "The best" surgeons perform his surgery.  He removed the head of the pancreas (with a 3cm tumor), the common bile duct, the gallbladder and the duodenum.  The stomach was left alone.  Everything was reconnected without issue.  He had no drains after surgery, only an NG tube a feeding tube and an IJ (internal jugular catheter for fluids, pain meds and blood draws)  were inserted during surgery.  The surgeon was very optomistic that he "got everything" and there were no visible signs of metastisis. 

Pain the evening after sugery was intense, but managed with IV meds.  Recovery started the moring after his 7 1/2 hour operation.  I got my husband to stand at the bedside long enough to wash him and for the nurse to change his linens.  Later that day, he even sat up in a chair for about 30 minutes.  The following day, we progressed to walking twice around the floor (pushing the IV pump and using the pain meds often though).  The NG tube was plugged the end of the 2nd day since very little drainage was comming out.  They started small amounts of tube feedings to stimulate the bowels late on the second day.  He tolerated that well and they started clear liquids on day 3 - also tolerated well and took out the NG.  I think the first bowel movement was either day 3 or 4...a scant amount but proving everything was working.  Everything progressed at a steady pace.  The sugery had been on a monday, and by friday the feeding tube came out and he was eating a soft diet and he was not pressing the dosing button on his pain meds at all.  He was also walking around the floor as much as possible.  He came home on Saturday, only 5 days after this massive surgery. 

The only "snaffu" so to speak was that he needed to be on enzymes to help digestion.  Something the docs should have prepared us a little better for, an oversight on their part.  We had to contact them and say we needed them (he was gassy and obviously not digesting fats.  His stools were very loose, light colored and "floaters" and he lost about 6 pounds in the week after discharge from the hospital.)

As far as follow up with Chem or radiation...well that is a personal choice.  I cannot begin to tell you what to do, but I will say we opted NOT to do either.  The defining moment came when we met with our first oncologist and he said, bottom line, "Chemo doesn't work for pancreatic cancer".  He went on to say it may "buy a few months".  We asked why they would submit people to chemo if it doesn't work and he said "because it's all we have."  He then went on to tell us to look at clinical trials- no guarantee though-- but that may be a "better chance".  We consulted with a total of 3 oncologist at different facilities with the same answers.  This is when we started researching ourselves.  Everything we have read confirms chemo and/or radiation does not prolong outcomes with pancreatic CA except by maybe a few months.  And the cost for those few months would be a completely compromised immune system.  All of our research also indicated that although science can't (or won't) confirm causes of pancreatic cancer there is a direct correlation between the occurance of it and the "modern western diet" with all its hydrogenated oils, high sugar content and chemicals.

We've approached this event as a team (my husband and I are in this together) so our approach to recovery began with drastic dietary changes.  When you start reading labels...I mean really reading and understanding all the ingredients, not just a few key ones, grocery shopping becomes very stressful and depressing.  We no longer eat: refined sugars (including fructose, dextrose, sucralose) any white or wheat flours, any processed foods, any fast foods, any hydrogenated oils any pork and very limited dairy and beef.  

Bottom line, our diet consists of fresh fruits and vegetables (organic if possible, 8-10 servings an day), complex grains (brown rice, wild rice, whole oats), oily fish (Alaskan salmon, sardines) hormone free chicken and eggs, legumes and nuts and tofu.  I cook only with extra virgin olive oil ad use walnut or almond oil for salad dressings.  I also use tofu for a thickener for sauces/gravies, cream pie fillings and "mayo",  REAL soy sauce (brewed soy and water only).  He also takes certain supplements to enhance his immune system and hopefully prevent any metastasis.  Our philosophy that guides the choices we make is directly from the Hypocratic Oath:  FIRST DO NO HARM...(in my opinion, a number of physicians need to be reminded that they took this oath!)

I've had to relearn how to cook, but it's been worth it.  My husband's (and my) health has been amazing.  He used to suffer from high blood pressure, high cholesterol and was overweight.  He no longer takes any meds for any diseases (except the enzymes).  His blood pressure consistantly runs 120's/ 70's, his cholesterol numbers are all "within normal limits" now and he's down to a healthy weight which we are maintaning.  His liver enzymes are normal, as well as his C-reactive protein (inflammation).  Tumor markers are all negative as well. 

These were very difficult changes to make, it was not easy and at times is still a challenge.  We went back to our original gastroenterologist and family practice doctor and they support the choices we have made and help us any way they can (with monitoring and tests, etc.)  They are both very optomistic with our results so far.     

               

RE: What to expect with Whipple Procedure

by Shemay on Mon May 07, 2007 12:00 AM

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HELLO WAKE UP CALL....Thank you for taking the time to post the above message. Your positive energy shines through and the information you have so generously offered here should be of great help to others. Diet and supplements and lifestyle changes are indeed key to strengthening one's immune system and allowing it to do the job of fighting off invaders as it was designed to do. Best wishes to you and your hubby for your continued success. Shemay

RE: What to expect with Whipple Procedure

by Stefanie on Tue May 08, 2007 12:00 AM

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Hi there.  If you go to www.craigscause.ca and click on "What is Cancer" Scroll down until you see the Whipple Surgery. THen click on recovery tips.  It was an excellent write up written by a Whipple patient and gives some excellent recovery tips and info. on what to expect.  Hope it helps some.  

RE: What to expect with Whipple Procedure

by Eenthebean on Wed May 09, 2007 12:00 AM

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On 5/6/2007 Seven22 wrote:

My dad is scheduled to have the Whipple Procedure.  He is very scared.  He wants to know if he can have a normal life after the Whipple.  Any input (good or bad) from people who have had this procedure would be greatly appreciated.  Any long term side effects?  How bad was the recovery and how long?  What did you use for pain?  His doctor is recommending a pump?  Also mentioned an epidural after surgery for pain?

I'm guessing that by now your dad has already had the whipple procedure but I just wanted to say that I had it in Dec of 06 and I am doing fine right now.  i had it done in Phil, PA at Jefferson with a Dr Yeo and I was out in 6 days which I understand is VERY unusual but that's how Dr Yeo is.  He wants you out quickly.  I take 2 Creon 10's with every meal and can pretty much eat anything.  I am almost 55 but I feel like I bounced back pretty fast.  There was some major discomfort in the beginning but it didn't last too long and I took morphine for the pain.  I am alergic to some of the other more common pain killers.  I also had a lot of people praying for me which I felt was huge.  I will pray for your dad.  Please write and let me know how he is doing and if you have any more questions I would be glad to try to help.

eileen

 

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by Deejon on Sun May 13, 2007 12:00 AM

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On 5/6/2007 Seven22 wrote:

My dad is scheduled to have the Whipple Procedure.  He is very scared.  He wants to know if he can have a normal life after the Whipple.  Any input (good or bad) from people who have had this procedure would be greatly appreciated.  Any long term side effects?  How bad was the recovery and how long?  What did you use for pain?  His doctor is recommending a pump?  Also mentioned an epidural after surgery for pain  

 My mother in law who is 75 just had the Whipple done on April 13th, 2007.  The recovery is not easy but if you have a good attitude you can do it! How old is your dad? I strongly recommend having the epidural for pain...to this day she has not complained once of having any abdominal pain! And when they took it out, she still has not taken a pain pill.  Since this is the most extensive abdominal surgery done on a human being, it is a long recovery.  My mom in law has been weak and spent 24 days in the hospital.  Then she had to go to a nursing home just for nine days to gain strength.  Now she is home with us for maybe two weeks and is hoping to go back to her own home.  She is a widow and has no one to help her so we want her here to keep our eyes on her and make sure she is strong enough to take care of herself. After they come out of the surgery, they will be put in ICU.  Do not be afraid when you see your dad.  He will have drainage tubes, I.V.'s coming out of everywhere! Other people warned me about this so when I first saw her I knew what to expect.... please keep me posted.  I'd be happy to tell you alot more if you'd like me to.

RE: What to expect with Whipple Procedure

by Seven22 on Wed May 16, 2007 12:00 AM

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Thank you so much for taking the time to tell me your stories about the Whipple procedure.  My dad was so scared of the procedure that he was almost willing to take his chances and not do it and risk the possibility of dying from his possible cancer.  With your stories and encouragement he has changed his mind.  He went through the procedure today and is doing well.  The doctor said that it looks like the tumor was only in the bile duct and head of his pancreas.  It is good to know that there are wonderful people in this world that are willing to take their time to help a total stranger.  THANK YOU!

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by Deejon on Wed May 16, 2007 12:00 AM

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On 5/16/2007 Seven22 wrote:

Thank you so much for taking the time to tell me your stories about the Whipple procedure.  My dad was so scared of the procedure that he was almost willing to take his chances and not do it and risk the possibility of dying from his possible cancer.  With your stories and encouragement he has changed his mind.  He went through the procedure today and is doing well.  The doctor said that it looks like the tumor was only in the bile duct and head of his pancreas.  It is good to know that there are wonderful people in this world that are willing to take their time to help a total stranger.  THANK YOU!

Hi, Thank you for your kind words.  I would love it if you can keep me posted on your dad's progress.  My mom in law was in the hospital for 24 days, and then a nursing home for 9.  Now she is home with us doing outpatient therapy to gain strength.  Then she will be be able to go back to her own home....she is a widow and lives alone on ten acres.

She has a really strong attitude and wants so badly to get better.  Her cancer was called Ampullary Cancer as it was in the bile duct area also.  I wish your father all the best and please give me updates on his progress.  I really would like to know how he's doing.

Good luck to both of you...

Dee

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by Sunshine61 on Tue May 22, 2007 12:00 AM

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Thank you for this information.  My mother who is 71 years old is getting ready to have the Whipple procedure done on May 30, 2007 and she is also a widow and my brothers and I are worried sick about after the surgery.  Your story has given me a lot of inspiration because my mother also has a very good atttitude and a lot of family and friends for support.

Thanks so much.

sunshine61

RE: What to expect with Whipple Procedure

by Deejon on Tue May 22, 2007 12:00 AM

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I will think good thoughts for your Mom....what kind of cancer does she have? My mom-in-law has been getting stronger and stronger each day. She can now eat anything! She feels like she is in heaven. It took her stomach a little longer to wake up and it was frustrating to just have the feeding tube and sips of ice water so she is really enjoying life again. She is also going to physical therapy several times a week to gain even more strength. We are very proud of her! Please keep me posted on your Mom's surgery and recovery - I am very interested in how she does. All the best, Dee
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