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Subject: RE: iv Vitamin c
Date: 05/10/2007

In regard to IV Vitamin C side effects, it is not true that diarrhea is the only side effect.  It does something to your osmolarity, and can cause you to retain water, develop pulmonary edema (which I did) and do something called 3rd space, all of which are not easy and can be potentially fatal.

People tend to think "well, just because it's a vitamin or an herb it is harmless."  This is not true.  Most drugs are made from PLANTS and have very serious effects on us. Think about it and please do RESEARCH.

 Good luck,

Sedona Lady 

Subject: RE: Appreciate The Information
Date: 05/17/2007

I have been taking Vitamin C IV - 75,000 mg...2 to 3x a week for the past four months..

My tumor markers have gone up and my pet scan shows more spots on my bone.

Since Vit C has a similar molecular structure of glucose (cancer cells thrive on glucose) I am concerned about the Vitamin C IV. My medical dr. who is also a nutritionist has ordered an MRI next week to see if there is a difference.

I have no problems with pain or anything of that nature and looking at me..you would never think there was a problem. My oncologist is very concerned since more spots on the bones have shown up since the last test three months ago.

My acupuncturist has told me to try U-fn and Modifilan which I just ordered and spoke to a rep. who said that it could be very good for cancer cells. Cancer cells are tricky and can get used to anything.

 I have been also taking 10,000 IU of Vitamin D3 which has raised my D3 levels to a better level of 76.

However, my markers are not going down and the PET scan showed more activity.

Any suggestions? 

 

 

 

 

Subject: RE: Vitamin c
Date: 06/12/2007
Hi Sedonalady, I have seen your message posted almost a year ago on insurance covering Vitamin C IV.  Can you give me any information on the correct code to use for this therapy.  I can already tell that my oncologists office does not have a clue on coding it.  I am the first patient she has had to have this therapy.  Any info will help ...Thanks in advance. Terry
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Subject: RE: Appreciate The Information
Date: 08/07/2007

 

On 5/5/2007 Sedonalady wrote:

 

On 8/3/2006 Susha wrote:

I would appreciate if you can tell me how long you have been taking Vitamin CIV? How much is it costing for each session? My oncologist has really decided that it is the wave of the future and I take it once a week. I can't afford more than that. I have taken my fourth one this week and I am at 30 grams of Vitamin C. I also finished my chemo treatments last week. I have discussed it with the Center of Human Improvement and they have given the protocol to my oncologist. However, two times a week has been recommended. I do take many antioxidants orally such as Lipoic Acid, E, COQ10 200 mg...vitamin C- 5,000 a day orally and more. I also juice vegetables each day plus taking juice plus capsules. I am sure in the next few weeks I will be taking some scans to see how it is going. Any other information you have , I would appreciate..

 

Hello there,

 Yes, I was on Vitamin C IV--First I took 50 grams three times a week.  The infusions lasted for 2-3 hours.  This did something to my water retention status.   It's called 3rd spacing and caused me to retain too much water.  Then I went down to 20 Grams twice a week-1 hour infusions.  I probably continued this for about 1 year.  The office I went to had it all set up with Blue Cross and Medicare (I have BC) so that I had to pay not one dime!!!  That was good!

 I can't say that this really helped me at all.  In February of 2007, my PET CT came back with a mixed response.  Some of the tumors have grown and some shrunk.  I then went on Topotecan, something that interferes with the DNA duplication, which is NOT the kind of interference I need.  I became very ill, as my WBCs went way down.  I just got out of the hospital on Monday 4-30 from pneumonia/pulmonary edema--I think due to the chemo and low WBC.  I have heard though, that ONCE you have cancer, the only Vit C that really works is the IV one.  It turns into Hydrogen peroxide in the blood, which in turn kills the cancer cells.The P.O. kind is more for preventative things, like to build up your immune system.

 What I need is something that interferes with the blood supply to the tumor.  Tarceva does this.  While I was on this at the Cancer Treatment Center, they did not monitor me well.  I was on antidepressants and Cipro for chronic UTIs.  You ARE NOT supposed to take these drugs with Tarceva.  Still, my CA-125 was as low as it had ever been and my PET CT was great.  

I developed a horrific cough, CTCA said it was Post nasal drip--Pshaw!  I went to a local pulmonologist and he said it was Asthma and it was written all over the PDR about how this drug can cause this and how one should not take the antidepressants and Cipro, etc.  I was not monitored by the CTCA at all for this.  The cough cleared, after using basic asthma medications.

 On Monday, I am going to a specialist in Phoenix to see if there are any other things and maybe even going back to Tarceve (which my insurance also covered completely with a $40 co-pay)  The Oncologist always say "oh, you can't do that, it is too expensive."  I would pay for it anyway, even if the insurance didn't.

I hope this makes sense.  I have also tried Mistletoe, an injection I got from my local internist who gets it from Germany. It is used in Europe as a secondary drug with chemo.  My cancer is so rare though that it's a crap shoot and I didn't get that much relief from this either. 

 Keep in touch,

Sedona Lady-Kathleen Wilson 


 

The oral pill sounds scarry, Try DCA, it's harmless and since July 17, 2007 the FDA has banned it's sale in the US for Cancer treatment, but it cuts off blood supply to tumors. TM is also good, it removes the copper from your body and the food you eat.  Copper is what fuels cancer cells to thrive.

www.thedcasite.com and http://www.infiltec.com/anticopper/

good luck

RavYnsMooN

 

 

 

 

 

Subject: RE: iv Vitamin c Treatment For Prostate Cancer
Date: 08/14/2007

 

On 7/22/2006 Kennu wrote:

I was diagnosed with prostate cancer in March of this year and decided to try IV vitamin C therapy. Have had five weekly treatments, starting with 25g and prgressing to 50g. Have had severe stomach problems in the last few weeks which seem to be related to the IV treatments. But understand that this is not a normal reaction to Vitamin C. I wonder if anyone else has had similar side effects from Vitamin C treatment. I want to continue the IV's but don't like the "belly aches" and frequent trips to the John. Any comments would be appreciated.

i have been on c-iv since april 07 started with 30 grams went to 60 then 75 grams psa didnt drop until 75 grams i take 4 grams of c orally during iv also snacks no stomach pain do have diarea  also drink 8oz pomagranet juice daily 12 oz burgandy wine a day

jackbe

Subject: RE: iv Vitamin c Treatment For Prostate Cancer
Date: 10/17/2008

 

On 8/14/2007 jackbe wrote:

 

On 7/22/2006 Kennu wrote:

I was diagnosed with prostate cancer in March of this year and decided to try IV vitamin C therapy. Have had five weekly treatments, starting with 25g and prgressing to 50g. Have had severe stomach problems in the last few weeks which seem to be related to the IV treatments. But understand that this is not a normal reaction to Vitamin C. I wonder if anyone else has had similar side effects from Vitamin C treatment. I want to continue the IV's but don't like the "belly aches" and frequent trips to the John. Any comments would be appreciated.

i have been on c-iv since april 07 started with 30 grams went to 60 then 75 grams psa didnt drop until 75 grams i take 4 grams of c orally during iv also snacks no stomach pain do have diarea  also drink 8oz pomagranet juice daily 12 oz burgandy wine a day

jackbe

Jackbe,

I know this is an old post, but it would be great if you could give us an update on how you're doing. Has your psa continued to drop?


 

Subject: RE: iv Vitamin c
Date: 10/17/2008

 

On 5/10/2007 Sedonalady wrote:

In regard to IV Vitamin C side effects, it is not true that diarrhea is the only side effect.  It does something to your osmolarity, and can cause you to retain water, develop pulmonary edema (which I did) and do something called 3rd space, all of which are not easy and can be potentially fatal.

People tend to think "well, just because it's a vitamin or an herb it is harmless."  This is not true.  Most drugs are made from PLANTS and have very serious effects on us. Think about it and please do RESEARCH.

 Good luck,

Sedona Lady 

Sedona Lady,

There may have been other reasons for you're developing pulmonary edema.  Third spacing is when fluid leaks out from the cells into the interstitial space, I have never heard of vitamin C causing this problem.  I hope you're doing well, how about an update?

 

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