Once chemo stops working

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Once chemo stops working

by Caseydtx on Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:00 AM

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Just wondering if anyone has any kind of a timeline once you have exhausted all therapy options? My mom is 89 with stage IV colon cancer and was just dismissed from chemo, not working. So it is in her lungs and liver and I'm trying to plan of course. She feels fine but of course the tumors continue to grow.

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by Njtwinmom on Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:00 AM

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My Mom, at 66, is a Stage IV.  No organ involvement, but nodes throughout the pelvis.  She has exhausted all the chemo out there and is currently going through testin to see what her options are at this point.

At 89, and with multi-organ involvement, I would say your Mom has certainly fought a good fight.  Doesn't the doctor feel at this point that she should spend more QUALITY time, rather than searching for something to give QUANTITY?  That really is the issue at hand.  If Mom is comfortable and well, leave her be to enjoy the time she does have.  That's just my theory though.

Best to you, and prayers for your Mom.

Beth

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by Mindybobo on Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:00 AM

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Hi sorry to hear about your mom.  There really is no set time.  Every patient is different.  My dad stoped chemo in November and in April started to have complications from the chemo.  His lungs filled with fluid and after that he only lasted 2 1/2 months. He had mets to abdomon and lungs.  You might want to talk to the dr about this.  All I can say is spend as much time with her and keep her comfortable.  Any pain make sure she gets pain meds and follow the drs orders.  Also the drs will tell you when to call Hospice in.  Mindy

 

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by Caseydtx on Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:00 AM

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Thanks so much. She is determined to beat this, even at 89 so she has no desire to stop experimenting with alternatives. I'm trying to be practical and at least be as prepared as possible with people in place when I need them. She is not going gracefully "into that goodnight" she is going to duke it out the whole way! Thanks again.

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by Caseydtx on Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:00 AM

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I did not know you could have complications AFTER the chemo was stopped. I thought the side effects went away? Was he able to lead a fairly normal life up until the last couple of months? One friend said her dad was fine up until two weeks before he died. The unpredictability of this disease is just so hard to deal with.

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by Hadassah on Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:00 AM

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Please check out my posts on the CAAT diet administered by the A P John Cancer Institute in Florida.

It is a biochemical diet that can treat cancer without chemo. I think this is ideal for older citizens with cancer as it is gentle. However, the protocol is quite exacting and your mother will need help sticking to the plan. But to my mind this is preferable to chemo. I refused chemo and the 3 cm growth that I was recommended chemo for completely disappeared after five months of being on the diet.

Let me know how you get on and dont hesitate to contact A P John for information and help.

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by Mindybobo on Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:00 AM

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Hi my dad didnt have complications from the chemo he had complications because the cancer got out of control.  so many in his lungs they started to leak fluid.  He was ok until the lungs filled up and then he went down hill fast.  He ate very little and got weaker and weaker as the days went on.  He could communicate with us up until the last few days of his life.  He didnt eat the last two days or drink and then the last day he could not communicate with us.  What happens is the body starts to shut down and they get sypmtoms from that.  Not able to talk and hallucinations.  But I also they that was from all the pain meds he was on,  Again make sure she is comfortable and the dr will let you know when Hospice should come in.  My dad always had high blood pressure and it started to drop everyday.  Like I said every patient is different.  My dad was not a fighter so I believe thats why he went so fast at the end.  Im sorry you and your mom have to go through this.  It was the hardest thing I every had to experience in my whole life.  Mindy

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by mytwin on Sat Mar 27, 2010 05:46 PM

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 hi casey i was wondering how long your mom has had her cancer. My twin got hers in april of last year she is 53.  They also found that she had colon cancer that had spread to her liver and lungs.  After 2 different batches of chemo her body is saying enough,so now she has to decide to take a break or not. She is always tired and seems to be losing her appetite.  When we first found out they said she had about 2 years.I was wondering if they would tell you ,i asked and they said everyone is different but i can see her losing the battle.

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by itsmelissa on Mon Mar 29, 2010 04:24 AM

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Don't give up!!!! Your twin needs you to be strong.  After months of being on FOLFOX my platelets plummeted, and now I am on steroids, they are helping so much with my energy and appetite, hopefully this might help if she hasn't already tried it.  Good luck and God bless you, your family and your sister.  

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by livingbyfaith on Mon Mar 29, 2010 09:13 PM

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 I agree with these responses, I would only add a few natural things that can help, flax oil and cottage cheese, Avemar, essiac tea, selenium, various supplementw.  The tumors may not continue to grow.  Pray for wisdom.

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