Nutrition And Lung Cancer

On 10/24/2007 LibbyO wrote:

I am  taking Alimta chemo treatments.  I understand that antioxidents should be avoided during treatment.  What exactly should be avoided? What supplements would be advisable for boosting the immune system and helping the body get rid of the cancer?  I have heard that sugar feeds cancer....Need some guidance

The area I am most familiar with is the medicines, dietary supplements and home remedies based on the oleander plant -- a highly toxic plant in raw form, but something many consider quite wondrous when it has been properly boiled and strained (which is essentially the same way that the medicine, supplement and remedy are made - as all are modeled after the patent by Doctor H Z Ozel in 1998 for the medicine Anvirzel.

In European studies in 1986-87 an aqueous extract of the nerium oleander plant was found to have fully six times the immune stimulating activity of the most powerful patented immune stimulators known to man.

Furthermore, in CAM applications Anvirzel has been shown to potentiate cancer for both chemo and radiation and either lessens or eliminates all know side effects of chemo, inlcuding hair loss (with the exception that it does not eliminate hair loss when the chemo of choice is Cisplatin - which is normally used for certain kinds of breast cancers).

The dietary supplement known as Sutherlandia OPC contains 80% oleander extract and 20% of an extract from the Sutherlandia Frutescens plant (the South Africa "Cancer Bush'), which itself has considerable immune boosting qualities.

The home remedy is essentially the same as the patented medicine Anvirzel, although no one should try making a home remedy from a highly toxic plant without knowing what they are doing.

My own 84 year old uncle was having no success with his mainstream lung cancer treatment until he began taking first the Anvirzel and then later the Sutherlandia OPC. Until he began those items, his cancer tumor continued to grow and the cancer began to spread to other parts of his body.  Now, seven months later the tumor has shrunken and does not appear to be cancerous and there are no signs of cancer anywhere else in his body.  His is one of hundreds of success stories I am familiar with.

The patented medicine is not available in the United States as it has not completed FDA trials (it has passed Phase I trials thus far). However, it can be obtained via FDA exception rule from Salud Integral in Honduras. The website is saludintegral.hn

The Sutherlandia OPC is the patented product of cancer and HIV-AIDS researcher Marc Swanepoel in South Africa.  Thus far he has used it to treat over 400 HIV-AIDS patients over the past 3 years and all are alive and doing well. He has also provided it to over 80 cancer patients, many of whom were in late stages and whom had already been treated without success by mainstream methods.  Only 10 are not alive and well: 5 were in their very final days and unable to hold down the oral supplement, three succumbed to liver failure as a likely result of prior chemo and two had their cancer disappear but then stopped taking the supplement and returned to old habits and the cancer returned.  Even so, the success rates astound me - and, as I have known him for over three years due to my own background in researching and writing about cancer and natural health, I can vouch for the accuracy of those figures.

If I personally had cancer, that is the first thing I would opt for.  In the past, I have seen questions raised about the availability of oleander in the United States via supplement form, but I note that on the American Cancer Society website it states that oleander may be legally obtained in supplement form.  As it is, I do not have cancer but I do take the home remedy t make sure I never do.  Again, this is not something to be tried without knowledge.  In my case, I do very well what I am doing regarding making such a remedy, as I have extensively researched it and written a book about it - and I host a Yahoo health group about it.

Until recently, the Sutherlandia OPC was largely available only by word of mouth, but now Mr. Swanepoel sells it via the website sutherlandia.com

Beyond oleander, the way to boost the immune system and help beat your cancer would be to adopt a very healthy diet of mostly raw vegetables and fruits, make sure that you get plenty of essential vitamins and minerals, including vitamin D3, vitamin C, calcium, magnesium, potassium, zinc and iodine, as well as plant derived trace minerals.  Avoid all sugar (sugar feeds cancer), white bread and bleached flour products (which turn to sugar in the body), snack foods, junk foods and most processed foods on the grocers shelves.  The closer you are to the natural diet our species adapted to eat for tens of thousand of years the better - vegetables, fruits, nuts, roots, tumors, some whole grains (sprouted are best), some meat - especially cold water oily fish).  Also get plenty of fresh air, pure clean water and a bit of daily sunshine (vitamin D3 is miraculous when you get enough of it).

Dark grapes which include the seeds are very healthy.  So is eating organic yogurt or cottage chees and cold pressed flaxseed oil (which is the essential element of the Dr. Johanna Budwig diet). There are many other healthy supplements and foods.  A good source of information is the articles directory at the new The Best Years in Life (tbyil.com) website, which also has an entire series of articles about oleander.

One problem that I have is that I have a hard time seeing how one can eat a healthy anti-cancer and immune boosting diet, or take supplements that boost the immune system and fight cancer, and avoid anti-oxidants at the same time.  Perhaps you could explain why you have been told to do so?

Live long, live healthy, live happy!

My response is same as above. We were given the same information.

Basically, some Chemo's (not all) use oxidation to kill cancer. If you

take anti-oxidants you're reducing the action of the Chemo. Some

doctors refute this analysis. They indicate there is no proof this is the case and the more anti-oxidants you take, the better. I could never resolve who was right..so we followed the advise of the Oncologist and refrained from supplements.

He  did say a multivitamin was OK. Would recommend you go with your doctor's advice.

Regarding Sugar..consensus seems to be that sugar does, in fact, feed cancer. There was a recent study that proposed the patient go to a high fat diet to supplement the loss of energy caused by the cutting down on sugar. Again..don't know who is right! But would suggest cutting back as much as possible. Good Luck.

I respectfull submit that a person would be well advised to also consult with a naturopathic specialist or at least someone qualified in integrative medicine.  Doctors only know what they are taught, and for generations that has been to cut, poison or burn away the symptoms of cancer without addressing the underlying causes.  Natural plants, diet and nutrition are not patentable, and thus those things have not been taught, nay, have even been suppressed at the medical schools whose chief source of funding is the world pharmaceutical empire. And that is why the so-called war on cancer has been a dismal failure.

For cancer to ever become established in the first place, it has to get by your first natural line of defense, which is the immune system.  Normally, cancer victims have impaired immune systems, including impaired livers.  All they need is therapy that further weakens their immune system and further taxes an already impaired liver.  Which could explain why more patients die of liver failure than are actually cured by chemo.

If the truth were to be told, surgery, chemo and radiation have never cured anyone.  You do not cure the underlying causes by treating only they symptom. When such procedures have been successful it is because the body's own immune system was able somehow to ward off further cancer.

Most of the people in my Yahoo health group listened to their oncologists, as did my uncle, and then they had to rely on the natural alternatives and proper diet and nutrition to not only get rid of the cancer, but also overcome the mess that mainstream treatments left them in.

As Doctor Ralph Moss will tell you, chemo has at best a 2% overall success rate.  Any claims to the contrary are just fudged statistics. Don't take my word for it though - even though I once believed as you do, about 10,000 hours worth of research ago.  Take a look at Tanya Harter Pierce's excellent book for anyone with cancer worries "Outsmart Your Cancer".  It is available at bookstores, on the net and at the website mentioned earlier.  Read some of the articles on that website.  And again, do not take my word for it, but at least educate yourself and make an informed decision.  It is your body after all.

I am NOT trying to turn anyone away from their doctors.  It is not the fault of your doctor that he has not been taught otherwise, or is not allowed to prescribe or perform any treatment not approved by the AMA.  But I am hoping to turn more towards choosing knowledge and life and not solely on what you are told from the side of a $300 Billion dollar a year industry whose only market place is our bodies.  Allowing natural, safer, less expensive and more effective competition is at odds with maintaining and improving that profit.  Humanity, I fear, pays a very high cost for that conflict.

 "The doctor of the future will give no medicine but will interest his patients in the care of the human frame, in diet and in the cause and prevention of disease."
- Thomas Edison

"One of the first duties of the physician is to educate the masses not to take medicine."
- William Osler

“I have endeavored to show that there is no real service of humanity in the profession [of medicine] and that it is injurious to mankind.”
- Mahatma Gandhi

"Modern medicine" may well be defined as "the experimental study of what happens when poisonous chemicals are placed into malnourished human bodies."
- A. Saul, Contributing Editor, Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine (http://www.orthomed.org )

"Nature alone can cure disease. Doctors cannot heal. They can only direct the sufferer back to the pathways of health. Nature alone can create, and healing is re-creation." Dr. William S. Sadler

“Everyone should know that the ‘war on cancer’ is largely a fraud.” Two Time Nobel Prize Winner Linus Pauling

“What she (Dr. Johanna Budwig) has demonstrated to my initial disbelief but lately, to my complete satisfaction in my practice is: CANCER IS EASILY CURABLE, the treatment is dietary/lifestyle, the response is immediate; the cancer cell is weak and vulnerable; the precise biochemical breakdown point was identified by her in 1951 and is specifically correctable, in vitro (test tube) as well as in vivo (real)…” Dr. Dan C. Roehm M.D. FACP (oncologist & former cardiologist) in “Townsend Letter for Doctors”, July 1990

"Unless the doctor of today becomes the dietitian of tomorrow, the dietitian of today will become the doctor of tomorrow." Dr. ALEXIS CARROL. (Famous Biological Scientist and head of the Rockefeller Institute.)

"Finding a cure for cancer is absolutely contraindicated by the profits of the cancer industry’s chemotherapy, radiation, and surgery cash trough."—Dr Diamond, M.D.

"We have a multi-billion dollar industry that is killing people, right and left, just for financial gain. Their idea of research is to see whether two doses of this poison is better than three doses of that poison."—Glen Warner, M.D. oncologist.

"Chemotherapy is an incredibly lucrative business for doctors, hospitals, and pharmaceutical companies…..The medical establishment wants everyone to follow the same exact protocol. They don’t want to see the chemotherapy industry go under, and that’s the number one obstacle to any progress in oncology."—Dr Warner, M.D.

"The National Anti-Cancer Program is a bunch of sh*t"
- James Watson, Nobel Laureate for Medicine in 1962 , joint discoverer of the double helix of DNA, and for two years a member of the US Joint Advisory Committee on Cancer

i want to respond with what is my situation. bear with me.

i am 75, have prostate cancer metastised to the bone. had surgery. cancer count, psa,  came down. but  another marker cea was 100. and my severe backpain continued.diagnosis with ct,mri,blood tests, colonoscopy did not spot primary, which by now was suspected to be different from the prostate.

so a cocktail mix of chemotherapy medication was used.path lab suspected lung small/non small  cell lung cancer. so the chemo included CARBOPLATIN,and DOCETAXEL,standard medication. all in all like all  patients the chemo experience was terrible. cea marker came down after chemos, but went up again after one month. i am on a wait and watch period.

meanwhile i have started something going. this may or may not interest you. but after a lot of reading on cancer treatments/supplements and talking to patients who went through the course i am  writing about here, my family, all, said i should start supplemental therapy.

i am on apricot seeds. 24 a day,Bitter seeds.plus a tablet called amygdalin 500mg  once a day for the present for 15 days and then to be stepped  up to 6 tabs a day. its also called as b17 vitamin.not approved by fda.its efficacy is a matter of controversy.the pharma companies say it is a fraud. but a well known hospital, on the mexican side south of san diego, OASES OF HOPE, deals exclusively in natural supplement/diet treatment using the medication and other related/similar medication to treat thousands of cancer patients. please type in b17 cancer, or b17 etc in yahoo and get tons of infor on this treatment. this hospital is said to have treated more than a 100000 cancer patients.

i am taking a synthesised vitamin complex tab called megazyme or brand name Univase.

talk to a naturopath in your area about these supplements. write to Oasis. get as much info as possible and take your decision knowing of all possible ups and downs.

for me and my family we saw NO LOSS IN ANY CASE.life and death are subjects of very personal consideraion. for us talking to 3 successful users was enough. the cost will be within a 1000 $ a year, within which complete recoveries are reported, well most people report a change for the better in 3 weeks to 6 months.

think this over. i am doing this in parallel with my oncologists course.i pray for you speed recovery. GOOD LUCK AND GOD BLESS.