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Subject: Bunker's Year End Results
Date: 01/07/2008

Sorry, I'm a little late in getting these results posted.

We had a CT/PET scan and my last doctor's visit right before Christmas. The results continue to be fantastic. No signs of the cancer. It has now been 22 months since the scans showed any tumors and 20 months since I stopped taking Sutent.

Bunker 

   

 

Subject: RE: Bunker's Year End Results
Date: 01/07/2008

Bunker:  Congratulations...quite a christmas present.  How long did you take Sutent?  I am on my sixth session and hope to be NED at some point.  I am getting some good results, and hope to get away from these side effects.  Have you been told that Sutent will be effective again if you get tumor growth?

 

Thanks

 

Richard Catlett

Subject: RE: Bunker's Year End Results
Date: 01/07/2008

Hi Richard.

I took a total of six treatment cycles (28 days on/14 days off). My doctor feels confident that Sutent will work for me again since it worked so well the first time. Of course, my positive mindset says tht I will not need it again. Good luck to you with your treatments. Obviously we think highly of Sutent.

Bunker 

 

 

Subject: RE: Bunker's Year End Results
Date: 01/20/2008

Hi Bunker, great news!

Did your doctor take you off sutent or did you ask to be taken off?

Subject: RE: Bunker's Year End Results
Date: 01/21/2008

Good morning Katrayle,

It was a mutual decision---me, my wife and my doctor. I (we) did not want to be on Sutent any longer than needed since it was so new and no one really knew the long term side effects (if any). Once all of my tumors were gone there seemed to be little, if any, upside benefits to taking Sutent especially since nothing could be measured. We suggested this to my doctor and he agreed. There was some risk with that approach but so far so good. My doctor's plan is to put me back on Sutent if I should ever need it.

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Subject: RE: Bunker's Year End Results
Date: 01/29/2008

 

On 1/7/2008 Bunker wrote:

Sorry, I'm a little late in getting these results posted.

We had a CT/PET scan and my last doctor's visit right before Christmas. The results continue to be fantastic. No signs of the cancer. It has now been 22 months since the scans showed any tumors and 20 months since I stopped taking Sutent.

Bunker 

   

 


I am new to this message board.  Would you please give a brief detail of your original diagnosis?  Had your RCC spread? 

Subject: RE: Bunker's Year End Results
Date: 01/29/2008

Hello DaddysGirl5,

Yes to your question. I'm going to include a recap that I posted a while back which gives my history. Please ask whatever follow-up questions that you would like.

I was first diagnosed with RCC on 12/6/04. I was 47 years old, had never smoked and in reasonably good shape. This surprise came totally by accident during a routine physical for life insurance. My urine test showed high levels of protein. Needless to say the insurance company turned me down and I was ticked but this was the luckiest day of my life. My wife and I have been lucky many times during this journey. The first plan of attack was to have my left kidney removed. Like many RCC patients, we were told that the tumor was totally encapsulated in the kidney and even though I was diagnosed as Stage I RCC no additional treatments were planned. I was to be scanned every 6 months.  Five months later I was at a routine visit with my general doctor due to minor swelling in my ankles and she recommended another CT scan. Then came surprise #2---the RCC had metastasized to my liver. Once again we were lucky. More surgery on my liver and I was now considered Stage 4. Three months after liver surgery the tumors appeared once again in the surgical area of the liver. At this point it was time to look for another strategy. While surgery had been effective in removing the tumor it was defensive at best. I wanted something that would treat my whole body given my opinion that if blood flowed into a tumor to provide nourishment why couldn't that same flow of blood carry the cancer cells elsewhere. I am not a doctor but this seemed logical to me and I wanted to be more pro-active in my treatment. Luck once again fell upon us by finding Dr. Dudek (RCC specialist) at the University of Minnesota and more importantly he had a trial going for a yet to be approved new drug called Sutent. We studied what we could find and asked a lot of questions before determining that this is just what we had been looking for---something that would treat the whole body. We first had to qualify for the trial in the eyes of Pfizer. We went on a campaign to prove our "worthiness" and used a series of uniquely designed T-shirts to make our case. It must have worked because we were allowed into the trial (again that luck thing) and started Sutent in late August 2005---at 50mg/day. Because of the trial requirements I was able to have a CT scan after each cycle because Pfizer wanted the feedback. My doctor felt strongly about using a PET scan instead and Pfizer approved a PET/CT combination (I'll return to the significance of a PET scan later). After my first cycle we saw a 34% reduction in tumor size---we were very excited. I enjoyed my first 14 days off but was very anxious to return to Sutent. After my second treatment cycle (at 50 mg/day) we saw another reduction in tumor size but more importantly there was no longer any metabolic activity in the tumors---meaning that they were dead. It was the PET scan that told my doctor that the tumors were dead even though the mass still showed in the CT scan. This is the significance of a PET scan. We continued to take Sutent via the Pfizer trial for 4 more cycles but at the reduced rate of 37.5 mg/day. Our strategy was to continue to take Sutent until it gained FDA approval because if I left the study my access to Sutent would be gone. Once FDA approved, we made the decision (along with my doctor) to stop taking Sutent. That was on 4/30/06 and I have not had any signs of tumors since Feb. of 2006. While on Sutent, I did have the common side effects: fatigue; nausea; diarrhea; dehydration; taste change; some mouth sores; and even a change in hair color. We learned some "tricks" along the way to deal with most of these side effects. Attitude and humor played an important role also. I've often referred to Sutent as the "wunderdrug" and some folks take exception to that classification. I'm not trying to offend anyone but given our experiences and the fact that just 3 years ago the treatment options for RCC were fairly limited, I consider all of these new cancer drugs (Nexavar; Sutent; Torisel) to be miracle drugs. They may not work for everyone and they may not completely wipe out RCC but even if they buy us some time a true "cure" might come along. I like that mental approach.   Today I am monitored every 3 months with a PET/CT scan and I feel great. My spouse of 27 years is unbelievable. Her support reminds me so much of the other caregivers that I read about on this site and others. We are not sure why we have been so lucky or blessed through our journey but we truly feel that our purpose is to help others. We share our story often and have encountered folks with esophageal; kidney and liver cancer. It seems like we all have an instant bond and we encourage them to ask us any and all questions. While we are not educated as doctors we have gotten quite an education :) 

I hope this helps.

Bunker. 

 

 

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