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LindaFromShropshire
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Subject: RE: Ginger and Other Good News
Date: 02/20/2008

Hello Linda

TY for your regime thatis very similar to mine; I too cannot forego the occasional glass of red wine either! I started first chemo on 26Nov07. I also found the Cancer Battle Plan a good read. Also have found comfort in following the Acid/Alkaline way of thinking. A good site to get background is EnergiseForLife as it has a food list.  I have read that Ovarian cancer is a hormonaly driven cancer of the steroid variety and as such it is important to avoid all diary; and to replace with soya products eg tofu. One could scour the net till next Christmas. I am lucky in that my sister is helping me big style in finding success stories as it saves me pouring me through the negative stuff. Perhaps we should all share positive reads/info? I believe positive thinking in our situation is tremendously important. Please keep in touch.

 Linda

 

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Subject: RE: Ovarian Cancer - Good news re Cranberries
Date: 02/20/2008

Linda and All

Mors good news - its always heartening to learn of new promising studies relating to to Ovarian cancer. This one on cranberry juice.

ScienceDaily (Aug. 26, 2007) — Compounds in cranberries may help improve the effectiveness of platinum drugs that are used in chemotherapy to fight ovarian cancer, researchers have found in a laboratory study.

The scientists demonstrated in cell culture studies that human ovarian cancer cells resistant to platinum drugs became up to 6 times more sensitized to the drugs after exposure to the cranberry compounds in comparison to cells that were not exposed to the compounds, which were obtained from juice extracts.

Although preliminary, the findings have the potential to save lives and reduce the harmful side effects associated with using high doses of platinum drugs for the treatment of ovarian cancer, the researchers say, adding that human studies are still needed. The new study adds to a growing number of potential health benefits linked to cranberries.

"For the first time, we have shown in our in vitro studies that cranberry extracts can sensitize resistant human ovarian cancer cell lines," say study co-presenters Ajay P. Singh, Ph.D., and Nicholi Vorsa, Ph.D., natural products chemists at Rutgers University. "This has opened up exciting possibilities for therapeutic intervention associated with platinum therapy," add Singh and Vorsa, who collaborated with colleagues Laurent Brard, M.D., Ph.D, Rakesh K. Singh, and K.S.Satyan, Ph.D., of Brown University.

But the researchers caution that the study is experimental and that patients with ovarian cancer should always consult with their physicians before trying any type of anti-cancer therapy. Ovarian cancer is the seventh most common cancer and the fifth leading cause of cancer death among women in the United States, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Chemotherapy using platinum drugs, including cisplatin and paraplatin, is a mainstay treatment for ovarian cancer. However, cancer cells tend to develop resistance to platinum therapy and higher doses of the drugs can cause unwanted side-effects, including nerve damage and kidney failure.

The new study focused on cranberry juice because of past research suggesting that the juice has a wide range of potential health benefits, including the ability to fight urinary tract infections, stomach ulcers, and cancer. Singh and his associates obtained ovarian cancer cells that were relatively resistant to platinum. They treated the cells with various doses of a purified extract of commercially available cranberry drink (containing 27 percent pure juice), exposed the cells to the platinum drug paraplatin and compared them to cells that were not exposed to the extract.

Paraplatin killed 6 times more cancer cells that were pre-treated with juice extract compared to cells that were exposed to the cancer drug alone, the researchers say. The extract also slowed the growth and spread of some cancer cells. The maximum amount of juice extract given to the cells was the human equivalent of about a cup of cranberry juice, according to the researchers.

Singh and colleagues believe that the active compounds in the extract are powerful antioxidants called 'A-type' proanthocyanidins that are unique to cranberries and not found in other fruits. The researchers add that they do not understand exactly how the cranberry compounds work. However, based on research by other groups, these compounds appear to bind to and block certain tumor promoter proteins found in the ovarian cancer cells, they say. The result is that the cancer cells become more vulnerable to attack from the platinum drugs, the scientists say, noting that the cranberry compounds are not a cure for cancer. 

The researchers hope to eventually identify the most active anti-cancer fractions of the cranberry extract and determine the optimal dose for effectiveness against ovarian cancer. Theoretically, a therapeutic compound made from cranberry extract could be used as part of an injectable chemotherapy regimen or as a beverage supplement to be consumed during chemotherapy, says Singh. Animal studies will begin soon and a new therapy could one day be available to consumers if further testing proves successful, he says.

For now, the researchers recommend that those with ovarian and other types of cancer seek their physician's advice for the most effective treatment options. The current study was funded by the National Institutes of Health and the Rutgers New Jersey Agricultural Experiment Station.

 You won't be surprised to hear I am off to the shops for a carton or five ow cranberry juice - for vit c benefits of course.

 Best wishes, LindaFromShropshire

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Subject: RE: Ginger and Other Good News
Date: 02/21/2008

Hi Linda

TY for reply. What sypmtons did you have prior to dignosis? and did you say you are also lllc? I had the second part of my treatment yesterday which was the gemicitibine on its own, I now will have two weeks off before next one! I too have a very supportive sister and would be quite lost without her. I made sure she and her daughters and my daughter all had tests for OC once I was diagnosed. Thank God they were all clear. Its so important to catch OC in the early stages and I feel very strongly that doctors need to be educated in looking for the signs instead of fobbing symptons off to either age or IBS. In my case they thought for a while I had asthma! I knew I did'nt as I was very active, walking dogs etc, never suffered with getting out of breath or anything, in fact I was always very healthy. I do believe stress plays a contributory part because if you are stressed your immune system gets low and I think thats when this horrible desease can take hold. Now I try not to get stressed about things and believe your health is more important than anything else, if you hav'nt got your health then what good is anything else. I am fortunate that I have a very close family and its their love and support that keeps me positive. TY for info of other sites to view, will take a look later. Hope you are feeling well today, when is your next treatment date?

Very best wishes,

Linda

Subject: RE: Ginger and Other Good News
Date: 02/21/2008
Read your information with interest.  Tried ginger tea today.  Decided that drinking this stuff surely should kill cancer cells!  Maybe pill ginger is easier to swallow!!!  Just though I'd share my experience w/ hopes that it will bring a smile to you.
Subject: RE: Ovarian Cancer - Good news re Cranberries
Date: 02/22/2008
linda&linda! same boat, same urge  to read all about it! june 2006, c-day! feeling fine at the moment: to read your posts, maybe it was all that cranberry juice i was drinking! now i take pill form to ward off urinary tract infections which plague me! i have but one question: one of u said it was hormonal: even if the tumor was estrogen-negative? i agree on the stress issue as i was very healthy, had some gastro issues, urinary infections, all swept under the rug by gp! next thing i knew i'm like totally incontinent & look 8 months pregnant! i actually thought this was normal for post-menopausal women as on tv i kept seeing ads for pads for incontinence! water under the bridge, keep up the nutrition side, sports, positive thinking! do u think yoghurt is also bad for u? i'm even not sure about the soya products as they are fyto-estrogens! keep up the fight! harriet
Subject: RE: Ginger Tea/Tomotheraphy anyone?
Date: 02/25/2008

 

On 2/21/2008 bethannev wrote:

Read your information with interest.  Tried ginger tea today.  Decided that drinking this stuff surely should kill cancer cells!  Maybe pill ginger is easier to swallow!!!  Just though I'd share my experience w/ hopes that it will bring a smile to you.

 

I  am OV 3c (Feb 07)  and read of ginger.  I started drinking homemade ginger tea (boiling pieces of ginger root in water) recently.  Try adding a little apple cider mix to the tea.  Just a little bit makes it easier to drink.  Beware though if you have upcoming surgery, ginger is an anticoagulant.  I have surgery this Thusday and have stopped drinking until afterwards. I have reoccurrence that appears to be just in one lymphnode.  I will have laproscopy to confirm only in lymphnode follwed by tomotherapy.  If it's elsewhere as well my doctor will try to remove and I'll need more chemo.  Anyone ever had tomotherapy radiation?

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Subject: RE: Ginger Tea/Tomotheraphy anyone?
Date: 02/28/2008

 

On 2/25/2008 zona3 wrote:

 

On 2/21/2008 bethannev wrote:

Read your information with interest.  Tried ginger tea today.  Decided that drinking this stuff surely should kill cancer cells!  Maybe pill ginger is easier to swallow!!!  Just though I'd share my experience w/ hopes that it will bring a smile to you.

 

I  am OV 3c (Feb 07)  and read of ginger.  I started drinking homemade ginger tea (boiling pieces of ginger root in water) recently.  Try adding a little apple cider mix to the tea.  Just a little bit makes it easier to drink.  Beware though if you have upcoming surgery, ginger is an anticoagulant.  I have surgery this Thusday and have stopped drinking until afterwards. I have reoccurrence that appears to be just in one lymphnode.  I will have laproscopy to confirm only in lymphnode follwed by tomotherapy.  If it's elsewhere as well my doctor will try to remove and I'll need more chemo.  Anyone ever had tomotherapy radiation?


 

Prayer and Ginger have worked wonders for my wife.  OC3c, two surgeries, 6 rounds Carbo/Tax, 9 rounds patupolone trial (sp?). CA125 below 30 after first 6 chemo, then rose to ~200 during trial.  Stopped trial and started ginger and steadily dropped to ~130 ( over several months) and still dropping. CT and PET scan show no cancer.  I think that means none over 1 cm or whatever the resolution of PET is... might be smaller.

Important:

PLEASE GOOGLE & READ ABOUT GINGER DOSAGE and HEAT

1) Need pretty high dosage of ginger, stop for a while if liver (your side) aches (sounds weird but true).  Supposedly from all of the cancer cells that the ginger killed & liver has to process??? again, read about it...

2) Supposedly, heat can breakdown the gingeroles (the good stuff in ginger) and reduce or negate effectiveness.  So, tea might not be the best idea.  We use standardized capsules and have tried tincture when we mega dosed at one point.

Really shooting in the dark... I wish more research was being done.  But then again, how can the Pharm companies make a bucket of money from ginger...

God Bless and keep you all

 

 

 

Subject: RE: Ginger Tea/Tomotheraphy anyone?
Date: 03/06/2008

 

On 2/25/2008 zona3 wrote:

 

On 2/21/2008 bethannev wrote:

Read your information with interest.  Tried ginger tea today.  Decided that drinking this stuff surely should kill cancer cells!  Maybe pill ginger is easier to swallow!!!  Just though I'd share my experience w/ hopes that it will bring a smile to you.

 

I  am OV 3c (Feb 07)  and read of ginger.  I started drinking homemade ginger tea (boiling pieces of ginger root in water) recently.  Try adding a little apple cider mix to the tea.  Just a little bit makes it easier to drink.  Beware though if you have upcoming surgery, ginger is an anticoagulant.  I have surgery this Thusday and have stopped drinking until afterwards. I have reoccurrence that appears to be just in one lymphnode.  I will have laproscopy to confirm only in lymphnode follwed by tomotherapy.  If it's elsewhere as well my doctor will try to remove and I'll need more chemo.  Anyone ever had tomotherapy radiation?


 

could you tell me what is tomotherapy, I had ovary cancer stage 4  already debuking
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