Just given a month or so to live...

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Just given a month or so to live...

by grandson on Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:00 AM

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I dunno. I just don't understand doctors and their bedside manner - sometimes. I can't sleep well. I don't eat right. I'm depressed... AND I'm not even the one with cancer.

My Grandmother has AML and was given a month or so to live today (well yesterday now... It's about 2:00 AM eastern time. She has been given the option to do more chemotherapy though.The doctor gave her until Thursday to decide. / My Grandmother is a retired nurse. She's helped sooo many people throughout the years and this is what she gets. I don't get it.

I'd like to know more about AML and if anyone has experience with it. I don't know that much yet, but am learning. I just starting blogging about it. It seems to go well with my not sleeping well and not eating right... :-(

Last year during her second dose of chemotherapy, she got an infection in her port... her arm became swollen and black & blue  ... from the i.v.s they were giving her, she became swollen with about 40 pounds of extra fluid... and they even let her head drop (forward) and she got a NASTY bruise on her forehead... had congestive heart failure and to top it off, lost her memory for a while AND had no clue where she was.

Any similar experiences? How have you handled it? Any suggestions? Does anyone blog about their experiences with Leukemia?

RE: Just given a month or so to live...

by posbec on Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 2/20/2008 grandson wrote:

I dunno. I just don't understand doctors and their bedside manner - sometimes. I can't sleep well. I don't eat right. I'm depressed... AND I'm not even the one with cancer.

My Grandmother has AML and was given a month or so to live today (well yesterday now... It's about 2:00 AM eastern time. She has been given the option to do more chemotherapy though.The doctor gave her until Thursday to decide. / My Grandmother is a retired nurse. She's helped sooo many people throughout the years and this is what she gets. I don't get it.

I'd like to know more about AML and if anyone has experience with it. I don't know that much yet, but am learning. I just starting blogging about it. It seems to go well with my not sleeping well and not eating right... :-(

Last year during her second dose of chemotherapy, she got an infection in her port... her arm became swollen and black & blue  ... from the i.v.s they were giving her, she became swollen with about 40 pounds of extra fluid... and they even let her head drop (forward) and she got a NASTY bruise on her forehead... had congestive heart failure and to top it off, lost her memory for a while AND had no clue where she was.

Any similar experiences? How have you handled it? Any suggestions? Does anyone blog about their experiences with Leukemia?


Hi my name is Rebecca, I really sympathize with what you are going through.  I was also very close to my grandmother.  My cousins little boy who is only 6 years old, has Leukemia also.  I know that this puts a strain on everyone involved.  I don't know for sure if this will help, but I was doing some research on a the web for my relative when I ran across seaweed that is found in Asia.  Polynesian people from Fiji discovered it in the islands of Tonga.  Researchers were amazed that the people in Tonga had such a low death rate, that they started investigating.  What they found was that almost everyone there used the seaweed.  I don't know how you and your grandmother feel about using natural remedies, but if they have already given her only one month to live it would be worth checking into.  She can use this while being on medication, they say it is good for calming the body after having chemotherapy.  You can do the research on the web for yourself, to see what you think.  It is supposed to be a proven scientific fact that it works rapidly on Leukemia.  You can also go to PubMed.com for more information, just punch in fucodian.  If you decide to order the fucodian you can find it on the web at:  www.SimplyLimu.com., also TheLimuCompany.com., and also OriginalLimu.com.  I truly hope this information helps, I will certainly keep your grandmother and your whole family in my prayers.  If you decide to try this with your grandmother, I would love to hear how it is working for you.  My e-mail address is: 

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       Best of Luck, Sincerely, Rebecca

RE: Just given a month or so to live...

by jcr65566 on Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 2/20/2008 grandson wrote:

I dunno. I just don't understand doctors and their bedside manner - sometimes. I can't sleep well. I don't eat right. I'm depressed... AND I'm not even the one with cancer.

My Grandmother has AML and was given a month or so to live today (well yesterday now... It's about 2:00 AM eastern time. She has been given the option to do more chemotherapy though.The doctor gave her until Thursday to decide. / My Grandmother is a retired nurse. She's helped sooo many people throughout the years and this is what she gets. I don't get it.

I'd like to know more about AML and if anyone has experience with it. I don't know that much yet, but am learning. I just starting blogging about it. It seems to go well with my not sleeping well and not eating right... :-(

Last year during her second dose of chemotherapy, she got an infection in her port... her arm became swollen and black & blue  ... from the i.v.s they were giving her, she became swollen with about 40 pounds of extra fluid... and they even let her head drop (forward) and she got a NASTY bruise on her forehead... had congestive heart failure and to top it off, lost her memory for a while AND had no clue where she was.

Any similar experiences? How have you handled it? Any suggestions? Does anyone blog about their experiences with Leukemia?


I sorry your not sleeping well and not eating right I did this when one of my family members were going this way, be carful of your health to,  I did some research on this a few month ago I found a study by the University of Minnesota Cancer Center I thought it might be of use to you I remember reading  myelogenous leukemia or Acute myelogenous leukemia AML it caused by the replacement of normal bone marrow with leukemic cells, the then  result is a drop in red blood cells platelets and normal white blood cells. when your grandmother  was given chemo it deleted more of her remaining white blood cells cause her to go a bit anemic the symptoms are fatigue, shortness of breath, easy bruising and bleeding, as there is an increased risk of infection. this is why she got an infection in her her arm and it became swollen and went black & blue from the IV  when I did this research back then I found out that  Hematopoietic stem cell transplantation is the only way  that works with it but since then I dug up an other paper of a University of Minnesota Cancer Center Study they did, I copy it off the site below hope it helps may God grace be with you and your Grandmother all the best Ray

http://health.dailynewscentral.com/content/view/000193/53/

Study Suggests New Treatment for Deadly Leukemia

Contributed by Carla Sharetto|  07 December, 2004  21:02 GMT

 

Natural killer cells obtained from a family member and artificially stimulated may provide renewed hope for some patients who have advanced acute myelogenous leukemia (AML), a highly fatal cancer of the bone marrow that has become resistant to standard treatment with chemotherapy, a University of Minnesota Cancer Center study suggests.

Natural killer cells are part of the body's immune system. The cells play an important role in defending the body against infection and against some cancers, particularly leukemia. In patients with AML, the killer cells have lost most of their natural ability to fight the aggressive cancer cells.

Half-Matched Cells Can Survive

This study is the first to successfully demonstrate that half-matched donor (haploidentical) natural killer cells that are transfused into a patient with AML can survive and persist to actively attack and kill the deadly cancer cells. As a result, the disease may go into remission and make the patient eligible for bone marrow transplant, an effective long-term treatment option for AML.

Jeffrey Miller, M.D., lead researcher, presented the findings of this study -- the successful remission of poor prognosis AML patients after transfer of human haploidentical natural killer cells -- at the 46th annual meeting of the American Society of Hematology (ASH) on December 5 in San Diego. A hematology physician-researcher, Miller is a professor of medicine at the University of Minnesota Medical School and leader of The Cancer Center's Blood and Marrow Transplant Program.

According to Miller, the goal of the study was to try to stimulate the immune system of patients with advanced AML to fight the cancer by giving the patients natural killer cells that were donated by family members and activated by a drug called interleukin-2. (Typically, interleukin-2 is a protein substance naturally produced by the body to stimulate natural killer cells and other cells to do their job of fighting infections and cancer. However, in patients with AML, the cancer may suppress the ability of interleukin-2 to optimally stimulate the patient's own natural killer cells.)

 

 

The result of Miller's study was this: the donated natural killer cells thrived in some patients for more than 28 days, and five of 19 patients achieved remission.

AML Increasing in Over-65 Age Group

"Admittedly we need to do more research, but we believe that we may have found another option, opened another door to potentially broaden our treatment capabilities of AML and give more hope to some patients who have been told there was nothing more that could be done for them," Miller says.

AML is the most common acute leukemia. In people over age 65, AML has increased about 10 percent in the last 25 years. Of the nearly 12,000 people who will be diagnosed with AML this year, about 90 percent will be adults age 65 and older. Approximately 8,870 people with AML will die this year.

Miller and his research team found in previous studies that natural killer cells derived from the patient did not provide the anti-tumor effect. In this study, the team set out to determine if natural killer cells that were obtained from a family member, artificially stimulated with interleukin-2 and then infused into the patient could have an anti-tumor effect.

A total of 19 patients with AML were compared to a control group of eight patients with renal cancer. The patients with renal cancer received a low intensity outpatient immune suppressive dose of the chemotherapy drug, fludarabine. The patients with AML received a higher intensity inpatient treatment of the chemotherapy drugs, cyclophosphamide and fludarabine.

Encouraging Results

Both sets of patients received interleukin-2, a protein substance that makes infection-fighting cells multiply and mature. The data showed that the infused natural killer cells expanded in the AML patients to achieve anti-tumor efficacy. There were no notable responses in the patients with renal cancer.

Additionally, the study indicated that interleukin-15, also a protein substance and similar to interleukin-2, played a role in the expansion of the natural killer cells. Patients with AML had significant increases in their interleukin-15, while renal cancer patients in the control group showed only a slight increase. This finding suggested that the chemotherapy combination of cyclophosphamide and fludarabine allowed for the expansion of infused natural killer cells.

"We are encouraged by our findings," Miller says. "Now we have data indicating that haploidentical natural killer cells have a role in the treatment of AML, whether used alone or in combination with a bone marrow transplant."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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