Septic Pneumonia

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Septic Pneumonia

by Nokomis on Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:00 AM

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Has anyone any information on septic pneumonia (with a blood clot) in a 70 year old male?  The patient is currently in ICU being given strong antibiotics.  The staff at the hospital tell me that home care would be impossible now and that a nursing home would be the best way to go.  

What might I expect from this current complication of  NSCLC? 

Since he told the ER personnel that he "wanted to live" they were obligated to do all they could for him.  I understand that. 

      Thank you.......
 

 

 

RE: Septic Pneumonia

by Rhonda_Needs_Angels__Prayers on Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 3/21/2008 Nokomis wrote:

Has anyone any information on septic pneumonia (with a blood clot) in a 70 year old male?  The patient is currently in ICU being given strong antibiotics.  The staff at the hospital tell me that home care would be impossible now and that a nursing home would be the best way to go.  

What might I expect from this current complication of  NSCLC? 

Since he told the ER personnel that he "wanted to live" they were obligated to do all they could for him.  I understand that. 

      Thank you.......
 

 

 


 

Hi there,

        My mom had fungal pneumonia, that turned into double pneumonia, and then into sepsis because they forgot to give her treatment with anti-fungals for 2 days after I had been told she was on them. It is a very difficult thing to have a lung cancer patient go through because they are usually so very sick already. She wasn't supposed to make the night and I did stop treatment until she perked up a bit and I was able to ask her what she wanted to do. She wanted to give it a shot. She was 55 and knew however, that the hospital screwed up and wasn't about to go out like that. She made it and lived another 4 months. However she required an enormous amount of care after that at home and it was terrible to watch and try and do everything for her. This was also hard for her because she felt like she burdened me. She did get a few more things in her life completed and it made her more at ease, so some good came of it.

       Given what I know now I question by decision to encourage her to follow through with treatment if that was her wish. She suffered a lot. When it comes down to it though, I'm proud that I let her make it and try to convince myself that there really was no way for us to know. It was right at the time so it's still right.

        She faced very low O2 saturation because the lungs cannot exchange the O2 when they are full of fluid. This will effect many things and cause a variety of complications. Some they can easily treat, some can be much more difficult. It may be good to allow the little things so he doesn't suffer, but also because it will make him feel like he is being treated as he wished. With anti-biotics, it could very well help a lot and he may recover more than anyone expects. More importantly, it is non-invasive and even if they can't cure the infection, they can improve his symtoms to a point and make him more comfortable. They could also cause complications too but what other options are there?

        Just try and be ready in case he does deteriorate from bigger complications. It can happen fast, and usually happens when you don't expect it. Try and thnk of where you will draw the line now, and where he would want this also if he were thinking as the person you have always known, should it get worse and he is unable to make an informed decision. Don't concentrate to much on the nursing home now. That must be hard on you. Maybe just try and see how the anti-biotics work, and take it hour to hour.

      I feel for you both and am sorry you must go through this. I'm thinking of you and sending prayers. Take care,

Rhonda.

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