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Patrick_NF
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Subject: Congress
Date: 06/02/2008
I hope that all of Sen. Kennedy's friends in the Senate throw buckets of funding at GBM research.   If they want to show their support, what better way ??????
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Lorre G
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Subject: RE: Congress
Date: 06/03/2008

From your mouth to God's ears and the Senate floor!!!!!

Subject: RE: Congress
Date: 06/03/2008

The thing is.... they are voting on "IF" they should have a DEBATE on global warming today......great......frankly my dears I dont give a D**N.

I want some votes and debates and concerted efforts that help families in this country trying to deal with crisies that completely wipes them out financially.

Subject: RE: Congress
Date: 06/03/2008

Like any other elite group they take care of their own. So,yes I think we will see a "Kennedy Cancer Center building" or a "Kennedy GBM bill"

Dr, Friedman will probably be of great benefit for agreeing to do the surgery and very good for Duke and their funding for research and trials!

I guess if it gets the job done

L

Subject: RE: Congress
Date: 06/05/2008

 

On 6/2/2008 Patrick_NF wrote:

I hope that all of Sen. Kennedy's friends in the Senate throw buckets of funding at GBM research.   If they want to show their support, what better way ??????

Between 1972 and 2002, over one trillion dollars was thrown at cancer research and the results are STILL over 500,000 dead from cancer each year.Buckets of money without accountability and without the HIGH standard for success that every industry is held to, is a fruitless task.Senator Kennedy's condition will give CNN something to talk about for a few week's and then the spotlight will fade.

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Dquixote1217
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Subject: RE: Congress
Date: 06/05/2008

 

On 6/5/2008 Willing wrote:

 

On 6/2/2008 Patrick_NF wrote:

I hope that all of Sen. Kennedy's friends in the Senate throw buckets of funding at GBM research.   If they want to show their support, what better way ??????

Between 1972 and 2002, over one trillion dollars was thrown at cancer research and the results are STILL over 500,000 dead from cancer each year.Buckets of money without accountability and without the HIGH standard for success that every industry is held to, is a fruitless task.Senator Kennedy's condition will give CNN something to talk about for a few week's and then the spotlight will fade.

You are so right - we have thrown tons of money at cancer in a losing battle for half a century now.  Anyone who believes we have made any real progress has been deceived:

"Hiding the Truth about Losing the War on Cancer"

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/41543

Maybe someday, somehow Congress will take an ope and honest look at how our health has been hijacked for the sake of profits.  For over 6000 years man has looked to nature first and did so right up to the latter part of the 1800's when Carnegie and Rockefeller conspired to replace naturopathic (and later, homeopathic) healing with germ theory AMA medicine in order to make the practice of medicine controlled for profit - and then at the turn of the 1900's the IG Farben drug cartel was formed in Germany with the express purpose of controlling the world drug trade and replacing natural healing with highly profitable man made synthetics and isolates.

As a result we and our doctors have been brainwashed for many generations into believing that the only real medicine and healing is what comes in a brown prescription bottle and from mainstream doctors treatment methods.  Nature, diet, nutrition, vitamins, minerals and lifestyle were either ignored or labelled as ineffective and even dangerous.  Years ago, before I began my research and writing about natural health and cancer, I believed the same propaganda.  I was badly mistaken.

I am not sure when exactly God (or nature if you prefer) became a quack or when man decided he was superior to God, but the track record has not been so wonderful has it?  Take the past half century of the failed war on cancer.  During that time we have gone from vinyl records and mono to MP3 and MP4 players, party lines to cell phones the size of a credit card, black and white TV's with 3 channels to wallsized plasma screens with hundreds of channels, propeller planes to space shuttles and Mars rovers . . .  and yet we continue to same old failed methods of trying to cut out, burn out, or poison out the mere symptoms of tumor with little attention to prevention, addressing the root cause of the cancer, preventing it's return or the superior, safer and less expensive options found in nature.  We may have abandoned nature, but nature has been there for us all along.

Hopefully someday we will harken back to the wisdom of looking first to nature and get past what surely will go down in history as the dark ages of medicine.  As Hippocrates, the father of modern medicine, said:

"Nature is the physician of man.”

and

"Leave your drugs in the chemist's pots if you can cure your patient with food."

Words of wisdom that are still true today.  Unfortunately there is very little profit in telling a patient to go on a good diet and lifestyle program, and take key healing immune boosting and cancer fighting herbs.  Cancer is a $300 Billion industry, including doctors, clinics, hospitals and agencies, whose continued existence and growth depends on continuing along the same failed path.

Because of the power of money, I doubt that we will see any great movement towards natural and alternative treatments - though that is clearly what it will take to ever win the war against cancer.

For more information, see:

"Modern Medicine versus Nature in Treating Cancer"

http://www.tbyil.com/MMvsNature.htm

And, for an example of what nature has to offer, see this protocol that has been over 90% effective against a wide range of cancers and cancer stages for hundreds of cancer sufferers:

"Healing Illness - a Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol"

http://www.naturalnews.com/022808.html

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Arnold
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Subject: RE: Congress
Date: 06/05/2008
This site is for patients who want to help each other.  It is not for the political oriented who want to bash "BIG CHEMO", etc.  How many have been treated and saved?  Do you have  that data or do you only want to only show one side.  Chemo, radiation, my doctors , and all the technologies that have saved my life deserve a tremendous amount of credit.  How much has paid by these companies for years and years of trials and research.  Let's see that $ figure.  Do they deserve to make a profit.  ABSOLUTELY!!  Do they help those who have difficulty paying?  You bet - check it out.  I am sick and tired individuals who bash the people and organizations that have saved my life!!!!
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Dquixote1217
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Subject: RE: Congress
Date: 06/05/2008

We are all freely able to express our opinions here - especially if we seek to help people instead of debate one another. The purpose of this forum is NOT to extoll the wonders of mainstream medicine to the exlusion of natural alternatives. The purpose, besides offering support is to share knowledge and experience and help people educate themselves and empower themselves to make their own personal decision about how they decide to address their cancer and other health issues.

As it just so happens, I am a natural health researcher and author whose articles and books have been widely published, as well as the host of two natural health forums - one of which is over 5 years old and has almost 700 members, many of whom follow the the same protocol linked to in my earlier post.  In addition, I am closely following the progress of an herbal supplement from South Africa which is an important part of the protocol. The success rate of the supplement alone has been over 90% in a broad range of cancers, including late stage ones where mainstream medicine was unsuccessful. The success rate of the entire anti-cancer protocol I recommend has been equally high. Among the successes is my own 85 year old uncle.

I understand where you are coming from - I was once there myself.  Once you take off the blinders from generations of conditioning and billions of dollars of advetising and propaganda to "just ask your doctor" and to not trust nature, you too might learn differently.

I am not trying to encourage anyone to reject mainstream medicine - I am simply offering information and hope.  Neither should you discourage anyone from looking at nature or take away their hope if mainstream medicine runs out of options. I know hundreds of people who would not be alive today if they had not taken that look outside the box.

Live long, live healthy, live happy!

Subject: RE: Congress
Date: 06/05/2008
I don't have blinders on.  I see very clearly on this issue.  Where is the REPRESENTATIVE data on the sucess and failure rates of the alternative approach.  Your data, and I don't question the efficacy, is incendental.  It does not show or prove that the alternative is  more or less successfull.  I am still on chemo and as a result of the most recent PET scan the tumor (size of an egg!!0 )is gone. I  have had minimal side effects as many others have experienced.  I'll go with the convential  until I am shown the results of a representative body of data that supports the alternative. aproach,  Where are they and please don't avoid the question.  It is important to me that this be provided so that I can compare both.  If you don't have it please say so.  I am still fighting this beast and I wan't to be prepared to make future decisions. I could be the alternative - I won't know until I can make this very important comparison.  I am talking about my life here!!
Subject: RE: Congress
Date: 06/05/2008

Hi Arnold,

Are you referring to the poster DQ?  Actually, from where I stand, that is exactly what he is doing.  He is helping.  In no way is he bashing "BIG CHEMO."  In fact, he states that everybody should do their research with regard to both mainstream and natural medicine and make an educated choice.

I am so pleased that you are healed.  How wonderful.  How long has your recovery been?  And I do understand your joy and your defense of the people who healed you.  Yet, we all have loved ones and friends who do have cancer.  And many of us have lost those loved ones and friends to cancer, So it is a subject very close to our hearts and a very emotional one for all of us. 

I am so very happy that mainstream medicine worked for you.  But for so many people it does not.  In fact, from where I stand, I have not had one single relative or friend that it did save. 

However, I do know people that turned to nature for their healing and they are alive and well.  You see, nature can often hold the key that means life or death.

I will disagree on one point though.  A healer of any kind does not have the right to profit at the expense of those that seek help. He has the right to be compensated, yes.  But not to profit at the expense of another's very livelihood.   Healing should be a labor of love to benefit mankind.  I know many that pay far in excess of what their insurance will cover and do not know how they will make ends meet tomorrow.  And these are the ones that have not been healed.  Their savings have been totally depleted and they are losing everything they have.  Healing should in no way have this cost.

 

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