Beagle with pancreatic cancer

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Beagle with pancreatic cancer

by Subar on Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:00 AM

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Last week we found out our almost 12 yr old dog has cancer. I brought
him to the vet because I thought that he had diabetes. He had been
drinking a lot and having to go out to pee alot during the night. He
had been so lazy for a while as well. After some blood work and
x-rays, the vet came to the conclusion that our Peanut has cancer
based on a number of things. There is a mass in the pancreas and his
ALKP is 1320 and LIPA is 5278. He said that he could tell us 100% for
sure if he opened him up, but would be telling us the same news and
would then have to put him to sleep. I am so upset. I trust the
vet's conclusion, and he suggested that we not put him down just yet
as he is still eating really well and having quality of life. He
couldn't give us a time frame or anything, but I don't read anything
very good. Has anyone heard of how fast this type of cancer
progresses. Our vet suggested we feed him a good diet, love and enjoy
him, and once we see he has lost interest in food or decrease appetite
to put him down.

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by ethellu on Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:00 AM

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Hi, I'm sorry I don't anything about pancreatic cancer in dogs, but my beagle hand pancreatitis twice and was very ill from it. Now, at 13 years old, she was just diagnosed with tcc ( bladder cancer ) and given about 2 months to live from the vet. I can't believe this as she had no symptoms until Monday and then the straining on urination with little output was her one symptom. I took her to the vet the next morning and she told me based on the urine sample and rectal exam, but did an ultrasound to be positive. My heart is broken as this pet has seen me through the worst of times including the death of my daughter from a car accident and has never left my side once. And she always has to be next to me wherever I am. I don't ever want to put her down, I don't know if I can. She is wetting all over herself right now until the medication takes effect. I have been washing her bottom like a baby, I don't want the urine to harm her skin, I've been changing her blankets every hour and rewashing them and mopping the floor. Giving her any food she wants. She's always been spoiled, now whatever Lucy wants, she gets. Even thinking of putting her down, I've been crying non stop. Anyone have any experience. I have two other beagles named Ethel and Rikki so they still keep me occupied. Thanks.

Cindy

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by spanielmom on Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:00 AM

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My dog has tcc also. From your description. I assume that the tumor must be in the trigone area or urethra and that the medication is probably piroxicam. If you want to be very aggressive you can do a laser reduction of the tumor where the tumor willbe removed down to the bladder wall. My dog had her tumors removed at the University of Florida vet school because hers were at a different location, but the oncologists at UF said that they did the laser procedure until the cancer metastasized. As you have probably learned, the main threat of tcc in the trigone area is death from uremic poisoning as a result of blockage more than metastasis.

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by ethellu on Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:00 AM

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Hi, thanks for responding. The vet said the tumor is significant and is inoperable. She is on piroxicam 6.8 mgm per day and misoprocstolol 68mcg three x daily. So far, so good. She seems to be perkier, wetting herself less often, not as bloated and great appetite. But, as I stated earlier, vet thinks only 2 months left which has me heartbroken. I've been spending every waking minute with her, letting her eat whatever she wants. At this point, why say no. I know as a nurse, they say that carbs and sweets feed cancer, but she is 13 years old, and she is dying. If it only buys her an extra couple of months, is it worth denying her what she wants at this point?? Like I said, I lost my daughter in a car accident, and Lucy was my constant companion and I won't let her suffer, I love her so much. I hope your dog does well, I can't believe I never saw symptoms in my dog and now it's too late. She never had accidents in the house or seemed out of sorts until a few days ago.............

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by Gentleannie on Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:00 AM

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Hi there! I am so sorry for your bad news and the pain you are in right now.

If you are seeing an improvement in your baby already, then perhaps she is being treated for a UTI as well (as a nurse, I am sure you know more about this than I do).  Very often the symptoms from that infection are worse then the symptoms from the TCC.  Once you can get the infection under control, your Lucy will be feeling much better.

As for the time, she has left...there are many dogs on this board who have outlived their initial diagnosis. Maybe she has two months and maybe she has more.  As long as she can produce urine, you can have hope. 

The thing that I want you to do is to try to not worry and waste any of your precious time with her.  When my Annie was first diagnosed, I was beside myself with grief. I thought every day was going to be her last and I missed out on many good days I should have enjoyed.  Now every morning we wake up and are overjoyed to see each.  I never miss a chance to pet her or talk to her or tell her how pretty she is and I still try to spend as much time with her as possible (and her sister has benefitted from all this extra attention as well)

Annie is now heading toward 3 1/2 years of survival since her diagnosis.  We have been incredibly lucky and incredibly blessed. 

I wish you all the best.

Marty 

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by ethellu on Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:00 AM

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You are so lucky to have Annie so long. But, the vet is pretty grim about Lucy's diagnosis. She just gave me a two month prescrption for her medications and said she most likely wouldn't need a refill. That was a kick in the stomach. She's been on the antibiotic for almost a week, but still puddling and dribbling in the house and on her blankets. So, not sure if it's her tcc or still the UTI. But, all the extra laundry, washing her after she wets herself and keeping my floors clean, she looks happy, I'm tired.........lol. But, anything for her. I'll do anything it takes, except make her suffer to keep her with me as long as I can. And like you said, I cried when she was diagnosed and she wouldn't eat the first day. But, I  won't cry now until I have to, because I know I'll be crying alot when she's gone. And since my daughter died, Lucy has always been super sensitive to me crying and she's seen enough of my tears. She would always curl next to me and lick my tears away, I can't tell you how many times her fur was soaked from my tears. So, I'm doing my best to be strong now, but she is getting spoiled. It's been McDonalds burgers since diagnosis......thanks for the support..................I'll need it.

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by Dogowner on Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:00 AM

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Cindy,

I was in your same situation until about a month ago, my lovely Sade (beagle) was diagnosed April 7th and almost a month later May 9th she was at peace.  TCC is an ugly situation, we saw no huge signs nothing to be alarmed about, a few urine stains here and there, but then all of a sudden lack of interest in daily activities and just withdrawing altogether.  We had her on all the major stuff. but the peroxicam hurt her digestive tract and she stopped barking and we all know beagles love to bark, you don't know how much I would love to hear that bark at this point!  Our oncologist did not like the peroxicam because of all the side effects, try the alternatives, say "no" to the surgery, because of the location, one slip of the hand during surgery and it will spread all over (seeding).  Just a note we stopped all meds her last week, to give her some peace, she was just worn out from fighting everyday. Sade was with us for 9 years and went through a number of things with us, love your pup with all your might and let them know you love them each day.  It will be tough, but you owe her that, they come into our lives with dignity and let them leave with it.  I'm still heart broken and I miss her deeply, but I know my wife and I made the right choice, she's barking, playing and hogging the covers just like she used to do, waiting for her masters to play once again. 

Sade's Dad

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by ethellu on Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:00 AM

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Hi and thanks for writing. I'm so sorry to hear about Sade. So far, it's been a few days of the piroxicam for Lucy and no vomiting yet. Some loose stools in the yard. But, she is still wetting the blankets and every time she stands up there is a little puddle. But, at least it's urine output and I'm fine with all the cleaning as long as she's OK. I know what you mean about the barking. She's still barking at me for food, so I can still smile at her. When she stops doing that or Heaven forbid, turns her nose away at food, then I'll know it's just about time. And I do intend to let her go with her dignity, with me holding her to the end. It will just about take the rest of my strength, but I know she'll be wagging her tail, with my daughter Julie, by Heaven's gates when I get there. My daughter Julie also had a beagle named Daphne that died in the car accident with my daughter and her boyfriend, so Lucy will have a beagle playmate she already knows........Thanks to everyone for their concern and support. It's very much appreciated.

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by Dogowner on Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:00 AM

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I was told by one of the very special people that stood by us when we laid our Sade to rest, that in order to heal you will cry a river of tears.  It will be a daily walk that will take some time to see the silver lining, even though we may not want to see it, it is there in the distance, it's just hard to see it at this point.  I can remember that Friday like it was yesterday, something that was so painful can have such a spirtual meaning.  It was very tough to say goodbye, because she was so loved and dear to us, but it was for the best.  I just wish I could pet her one more time and chase her around the couch like I used too.  Take care of her and watch her quality of life, but more importantly take care of yourself, the fight isnt over!  The little things are the most important at this time. 

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by soccermom on Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:00 AM

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I am very sorry to hear that your furbaby is going through this.  In many ways, I wish I hadn't read this post.  Since February, we have had to put two of my little girls down and although they didn't have cancer (or at least we don't believe so) it was an extremely difficult time.  Precious, our cocker mix, was 18 years and 10 days old when she needed to rest.  We felt that she had a good life, but it is still so overwhelmingly hard.  5 weeks later, we had to put KC, our first beagle down.  She had a stroke and it was so hard to watch her struggling to walk, missing her bowl, falling down, not being able to go to the bathroom, etc.  I am crying now as I type this. It does get better, but it is still hard.  I felt even worse because my babies had been there for me every step of my cancer journey.  When I was undergoing radiation treatments (rectal cancer) in the summer of '06 and I would nap on the living room couch, Precious or KC were always close by.  Our furbabies love us so much.  All of you struggling with this have seen first hand how devastating cancer can be.  I often wondered what I would do if any of my babies got cancer.  I don't know that I would want to put them through the chemo or the other treatments.  It's so hard.  Love them now and know that when the time comes and if you decide they need to rest, you will be sparing them pain and suffering.  It was hard and was particularly difficult on my other two babies at home (both beagles).  Please just love them, take pictures of them, small videos, anything.  Get locks of their hair, brush them, talk to them, cuddle them-just love them.  Visit rainbowbridge.com, but be prepared for a good cry.

Good luck and please accept my sincere sympathies.  Reading your posts brings back memories of my little girls.

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