Great News!!!!

When I came home from work last night I got the best message ever... after 6 months of vitamins, supplements and Betamannin I have a normal pap!!!! This is my first normal pap in 2 years... 2 abnormal colps and now a normal pap..

 I am soooo excited... ladies please take a look at Tany's message I was following the same type of regimen as she was and it has worked for the both of us...

 

I am so happy for you! Especially since your awful doctor wanted to immediately do a LEEP but then decided on a wait-and-see approach for six months when you asked for a different procedure. I imagine it will be hard to not gloat in her face, as I suspect she was hoping your condition would get worse so that you would be easier to coherce into the LEEP.

Tanya's and your messages give so much hope!

I am truly happy for you!

I'm happy for her too, but I think your comments, herenow, are out of line.  Awfull Doctor, trying to correrce a patient , gloat in her face., To have this opinion and to state in such a way without any true knowledge about the Doc' competency is not a good thing.

Arnold, she emailed me privately and told me some of the comments her doctor had made to her, which were appalling. I won't repeat them without her permission. But no, I don't regard my comments out of line. I regard the doctor out of line. Based on what the doctor has said to her, I think she should get a different doctor. But I respect Chemiszt24's right to choose. She may not be in an area where there are many doctors to choose from.

I think there are some doctors who do have the patient's best interest at heart and want the patient to make an informed decision by educating as fully as possible. There are doctors who do have the patient's best interest at heart but have their hands too tightly tied by insurance companies, and so the options they have to give patients are limited. There are also doctors who just aren't experienced enough to make the best decisions for a patient. There are also doctors who are more interested in convenience and want to shuffle patients in and out of the office as quickly as possible, while making money on the side. I think it's not only important for a patient to do the homework on her (or his) condition and treatment options, as well as which insurance carrier and which corporation will benefit financially from certain treatments, but it's important to do the homework on a particular doctor. I know that from personal experience.

What is real and what you imagine are two different things.  To imagine that the doctor would hope that the patient would take a turn for the worse so they could treat incorrectly and take the "payoff" is out of line.  Also, that the patient should gloat in front of the doctor is out of line.  Your last statement is more in line with your thinking and your positions (I assume)and it  is certainly your right to express that accordingly.  We get your message without you extrapolating from what you know privately and "imagining" what might have occured.  That along with "spanking doctors" and that a doctor is "awfull" is not a good tone for us who are trying to be positive and forward looking.  Many of us rely heavily on our doctors who have saved our lives and your tone is very demeaning to the professionals most of who are there to help us.

Arnold, my response was based on what she told me. I'm sorry if that offended you. But there is more to the story than you realize.

To me, being positive is to be as educated as possible, which includes the doctor who is chosen. That gets the patient as fully involved in the decision-making process.

I have no arguement with what you say one way or the other. It is your tone and the fact you assume what may not be true.  I am not offended at all.  If you have comments to make based on private information you have received, send another private post.

I can certainly keep my comments to her private.

I am curious, though. Why are you sticking up for doctors? If you read some of the threads on this forum, you'll see enough badly handled cases to know women should always question everything, including their doctors and their doctors' motives, in order to make the best decisions possible about their cases.

Thank you for posting that! The information on that link was very informational and good. I'm going to bookmark it. I appreciate the support, too. I'm perplexed why a man is posting on a forum for cervical cancer and taking great offense at what I posted about doctors. But so be it.

My experience with my mother's lung cancer left me feeling that doctors actually know very little.  So much seems to be trial and error at this point.   Roz