Subject: RE: Stage 4 Colon Cancer and Living the Dream
Date: 07/28/2008
On 7/28/2008 sjems7 wrote: Ray, Thanks so much. You've given me a lot to think about and look in to. Every bit of information is a plus when it comes to cancer. I'll pray for your continued success. Margie
Hi sjems7 That ok just here to help when you can go and Google “ baking soda and cancer” I think your going to be surprised to find out that there is an oncologist in Rome Italy, Dr. Tullio Simoncini, destroying cancer tumors with sodium bicarbonate. Sodium bicarbonate is safe, extremely inexpensive and unstoppably effective when it comes to cancer tissues. It's an irresistible chemical, cyanide to cancer cells for it hits the cancer cells with a shock wave of alkalinity, which allows much more oxygen into the cancer cells than they can tolerate. Cancer cells cannot survive in the presence of high levels of oxygen. Sodium bicarbonate is, for all intent and purposes, an instant killer of tumors. Full treatment takes only days,
Subject: RE: Stage 4 Colon Cancer and Living the Dream
Date: 07/28/2008
Sodium Bicarb an instant killer of cancer / tumors in only days?? Where is the proof of this?. This is an outlandish claim and can be very misleading to folks who are suffering terribly and are looking for a "miracle cure" I question this. This the kind of claim that hurts the alternative protocol approach, which I have used along with standard chemo, etc. It may help, in some cases but I doubt it. I know you mean well, but this is a bit much.
Subject: RE: Stage 4 Colon Cancer and Living the Dream
Date: 07/28/2008
On 7/28/2008 jcr65566 wrote: On 7/28/2008 sjems7 wrote: Ray, Thanks so much. You've given me a lot to think about and look in to. Every bit of information is a plus when it comes to cancer. I'll pray for your continued success. Margie
Hi sjems7 That ok just here to help when you can go and Google “ baking soda and cancer” I think your going to be surprised to find out that there is an oncologist in Rome Italy, Dr. Tullio Simoncini, destroying cancer tumors with sodium bicarbonate. Sodium bicarbonate is safe, extremely inexpensive and unstoppably effective when it comes to cancer tissues. It's an irresistible chemical, cyanide to cancer cells for it hits the cancer cells with a shock wave of alkalinity, which allows much more oxygen into the cancer cells than they can tolerate. Cancer cells cannot survive in the presence of high levels of oxygen. Sodium bicarbonate is, for all intent and purposes, an instant killer of tumors. Full treatment takes only days,
Thanks Ray Knowledge is power and I know that you are giving a lot of yourself and your personal time doing research and passing along what you hope will be hopeful and helpful information. We all have lots of people in our own personal circles of aquaintances who poo poo alternative treatments that appear to be just too simple......too good to be true..... but thanks to the power of the internet and other research vehicles, there is a vast amount of valid information out there now that could possibly save someones life in a natural gentle way. If we all do not try to keep an open and unbiased mind on these new and inovative treatments it is possible we may just be passing up the opportunity to improve our own and others health. Here is a link to Dr. Simoncini's website http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/index.php If you click on the faqs section there is an interview with the Doctor which answers many questions. Keep on keeping on Ray. My best wishes for your continuing good health. Sheila
Subject: RE: Stage 4 Colon Cancer and Living the Dream
Date: 07/28/2008
Wow Ray! You really are into finding out as much as you can. Kudos to you. I'm fascinated with the baking soda info. I'll be googling it ASAP. I've seen the oncologist today and she says the pumps good but systemic is a must with it. That really bummed me out. O Well. Now it's time to accept the next step. One at a time. First the surgery than the chemo than good health. I can't wait. SJEMS7
Subject: RE: Stage 4 Colon Cancer and Living the Dream
Date: 07/28/2008
I appreciate the work Ray has done and I am not debunking anything specifically other than this. That is why I stated that I think he means well, and I am sure he does. I researched this claim on many sites including the Docs and it is pure bunk. Applying Bi Carb directly to the tumor, injesting bi-carb, injecting bi-carb and killing it because it really is a fungus??? That is truly outrageuos and is a false claim and I directly challenge anyone to provide proof of it's effectiveness. I am doing it, in this case, to help the patients, who like myself are colon cancer survivors and those who are still suffering, to assure they see the true picture. This is dangerous and very misleading. The Doc states that it is not effective for tumors over 3cm?? (Why not?) It is also not effective for terminal patients but it is effective in 90% of the cases that are not terminal and it only takes 2 days to eliminate the tumor!! I can testify to it's effectiveness in helping with an acid stomach, hiccups and keeping the fridge free of oders.
Subject: RE: Stage 4 Colon Cancer and Living the Dream
Date: 07/28/2008
On 7/28/2008 sjems7 wrote:
Wow Ray! You really are into finding out as much as you can. Kudos to you. I'm fascinated with the baking soda info. I'll be googling it ASAP. I've seen the oncologist today and she says the pumps good but systemic is a must with it. That really bummed me out. O Well. Now it's time to accept the next step. One at a time. First the surgery than the chemo than good health. I can't wait. SJEMS7
Thanks sjems7 I do research be cause I had my Father-in-law, my uncle, and my aunty die, of cancer. THEY DIDENT JUST DIE. Cancer put them and the rest of my family THOUGH HELL . Not only did it cause them grate amounts of pain it took away there dignity and put them though some of the most humiliating procedures. Cancer causes pain worst then any sadist can do. And it doesn’t just go on for days or weeks it went on for month,, after month,,. I don’t wont any one else, patient or family to go through this again. Jesus once said if I could save all of them I would. And that why I do what I do I fight for the ones who can’t. Knowledge,,,, Can,,, beat,,, cancer. Where I live now people are surviving, for years the same cancers that killed my family. Thanks to the knowledge from the good people on this site and the friends I have here I feel I’m wining now to. Take care Be well Ray
Subject: RE: Stage 4 Colon Cancer and Living the Dream
Date: 07/29/2008
On 7/28/2008 Shemay wrote: On 7/28/2008 jcr65566 wrote: On 7/28/2008 sjems7 wrote: Ray, Thanks so much. You've given me a lot to think about and look in to. Every bit of information is a plus when it comes to cancer. I'll pray for your continued success. Margie
Hi sjems7 That ok just here to help when you can go and Google “ baking soda and cancer” I think your going to be surprised to find out that there is an oncologist in Rome Italy, Dr. Tullio Simoncini, destroying cancer tumors with sodium bicarbonate. Sodium bicarbonate is safe, extremely inexpensive and unstoppably effective when it comes to cancer tissues. It's an irresistible chemical, cyanide to cancer cells for it hits the cancer cells with a shock wave of alkalinity, which allows much more oxygen into the cancer cells than they can tolerate. Cancer cells cannot survive in the presence of high levels of oxygen. Sodium bicarbonate is, for all intent and purposes, an instant killer of tumors. Full treatment takes only days,
Thanks Ray Knowledge is power and I know that you are giving a lot of yourself and your personal time doing research and passing along what you hope will be hopeful and helpful information. We all have lots of people in our own personal circles of aquaintances who poo poo alternative treatments that appear to be just too simple......too good to be true..... but thanks to the power of the internet and other research vehicles, there is a vast amount of valid information out there now that could possibly save someones life in a natural gentle way. If we all do not try to keep an open and unbiased mind on these new and inovative treatments it is possible we may just be passing up the opportunity to improve our own and others health. Here is a link to Dr. Simoncini's website http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/index.php If you click on the faqs section there is an interview with the Doctor which answers many questions. Keep on keeping on Ray. My best wishes for your continuing good health. Sheila
Hi thank you shemay Yes, it is an amazing site. Dr. Simoncini's website is a must see for any one who is fighting cancer http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/index.php not only dos it gives hope and insight to the way cancer works, but it is another weapon in our arsenal to help, with our fight against cancer, well worth the visit.
Subject: RE: Stage 4 Colon Cancer and Living the Dream
Date: 07/29/2008
Ray - Cancer is not a fungus. That is a proven scientific fact. And Bicarb of Soda does not kill cancer. I read all the data on the doctors site and many others. This is bogus and not one of the weapons that one can rely on to fight cancer. Other remedies may work that you reference and I know that you work hard on providing information. That is to be commended. If the doctors had tried to flush out a 4 cm cancer inside my colon 3 years ago with Bicarb of Soda I would have died. That is his treatment procedure for colon cancer that has not metasticized - for colon cancer that has moved to other parts of the body his procedure is to infuse bicarb. If that worked, as you have stated, an d as it was stated on one of the other sites it would be front page news in every paper in the world. And, I have suffered through surgeries, chemos, radiation for 3 years as many in my family have. My Mother and Father died of cancer(lung and brain). My oldest sister is fighting recurrence of breast cancer at this time. Don't you think that we would love to have a "miracle drug" as this Bicarb is described? You bet we would and so would many others who read these posts. This is "false hope" and is very unfair. I hope you hit on one some day Ray - This isn't it.
Subject: RE: Stage 4 Colon Cancer and Living the Dream
Date: 07/29/2008
On 7/29/2008 Arnold wrote:
Ray - Cancer is not a fungus. That is a proven scientific fact. And Bicarb of Soda does not kill cancer. I read all the data on the doctors site and many others. This is bogus and not one of the weapons that one can rely on to fight cancer. Other remedies may work that you reference and I know that you work hard on providing information. That is to be commended. If the doctors had tried to flush out a 4 cm cancer inside my colon 3 years ago with Bicarb of Soda I would have died. That is his treatment procedure for colon cancer that has not metasticized - for colon cancer that has moved to other parts of the body his procedure is to infuse bicarb. If that worked, as you have stated, an d as it was stated on one of the other sites it would be front page news in every paper in the world. And, I have suffered through surgeries, chemos, radiation for 3 years as many in my family have. My Mother and Father died of cancer(lung and brain). My oldest sister is fighting recurrence of breast cancer at this time. Don't you think that we would love to have a "miracle drug" as this Bicarb is described? You bet we would and so would many others who read these posts. This is "false hope" and is very unfair. I hope you hit on one some day Ray - This isn't it.
Hi Arnold I need to debunk this to show it bogus when you say Cancer is not a fungus That is a proven scientific fact. Where did you get these facts And Bicarb of Soda does not kill cancer. I read all the data on the doctor’s site to he’s been doing this for over thirty years some one must have put forth litigation against him and won where do I find the proven scientific fact you mention that Cancer is not a fungus . I found a site that debunk Maple syrup http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer02/Kelmun.htmlthe site said The treatment is a combination of baking soda and maple syrup. After a thorough analysis of this treatment the Cancer Tutor website has decided NOT to endorse or even support this treatment. So now we can put that one to rest. Please Arnold help me find some site some were news paper article any think. You and I are doing more then fighting for our lives if the cancer gets going in our bodies not only will we suffer but our families will to. I don’t want to go the way my Fathering law uncle and aunty went help me Debunk this then we can put it to rest finely God bless Ray
Subject: RE: Stage 4 Colon Cancer and Living the Dream
Date: 07/29/2008
I truly wish it did work Ray for the sake of my sister who is fighting for her life. Maybe the laws are different in Italy. I don't know. If this had worked the way he described working in 1983 for the 11 year old boy with a brain tumor, this would truly have been a major breakthrough almost 25 years ago and would have been in the news all over the world and I wouldn't be debunking it now. But, this is not the case. He also covered a case of colon cancer where the bicarb was "washed" over the tumor (very large) and reduced it size by 2/3 in a matter of days. There was no comment as to what the final outcome was. These bogus accounts of treatments tug on the emotions of people and keep them from seeing clearly and logically. Mildly interesting but of no true value. God Blees you Ray and Good Luck in your future endeavors.
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