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This works!!!!!!!!!

by fiddlle876 on Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:00 AM

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First hand information......My brother had malanoma when he was 10. They gave him 6 months 28 years ago. He is a bull today. My father with colon cancer and was given 6 months 3 years ago. His doctor asked "What is your secret"!!! A close neighbor that was told if he did not get a liver transplant he would die. Now they say he was misdiagnosed. It would take volumes to say exactlly what I believe helped but I'll recomend the book "beating cancer with nutrition" and carrot juice, carrot juice, carrot juice! 

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by Hydroman on Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:00 AM

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From what I can learn on the effectiveness of the chemo drugs is that they are effective somewhere between 2 and 6% of the time (in absolute terms, not relative terms). Not very good odds. But then again, what do we have but alternative medicine, with no published statistics?

Here is one that seems to be working well for me... it is a mushroom extract from the species Coriolus Versicolor. It is very popular in Japan. I started taking it and a new chemo drug (Alimta) on the same day and wow! Within 3 days I was feeling better. I went off oxygen within a week, stopped coughing, had more energy, etc. Now was it the Alimta, the mushroon extract or the combination?  Sorry,I don't know. But one doctor told me that she had never seen such a fast response to the chemo drug. I was dignosed with stage 3b lung cancer (NSC) adenocarcenoma back in Sept, 2007. Several chemo drugs failed to help and then I went on the Alimta/mushroom extract and now, I feel as good as I did when first diagnosed. I know that one report is not a study but for what its worth, it is helping me. It is cheap and there are no side effects, so why not try it? Has anyone else tried it? Please use this message board and share your experience, good or bad. Just maybe we can develope some statisticts. Hydroman

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by ljphilly on Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 7/30/2008 fiddlle876 wrote:

First hand information......My brother had malanoma when he was 10. They gave him 6 months 28 years ago. He is a bull today. My father with colon cancer and was given 6 months 3 years ago. His doctor asked "What is your secret"!!! A close neighbor that was told if he did not get a liver transplant he would die. Now they say he was misdiagnosed. It would take volumes to say exactlly what I believe helped but I'll recomend the book "beating cancer with nutrition" and carrot juice, carrot juice, carrot juice! 

Yes, my dad did the same and with red clover tea.He was sentenced to die then turned things around by juicing and rc tea. I now am juicing carrot, kale sometimes beets and other veggies. I feel energy and much less pain. People now complement me on my skin looking good. I was diagnosed in March 2008 lung cancer stage iv with metastasis to brain, liver and bones. I refused chemo and did some radiation with did not much but come back more. but now I also use castor oil to enhance my immune system and shrink the tumors.

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by Shemay on Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:00 AM

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It's wonderful to see these messages on this board. I too am a survivor having used ONLY alternative protocols such as diet, supplements and Intravenous vitamin C treatments. When I was first diagnosed, the oncologist I was referred to told me I would need the strongest chemo in order to "perhaps" save myself. Thankfully I was counselled as to my other options by a friend of my son's who survived a brain tumour when he was thirteen and stomach cancer when he was in his late thirties. Both times the skills of a naturopath brought him back to good health. I have seen some amazing results at the medical/alternative clinic I go to. One of the most impressive was the return to perfect health in just a few short months for a man who had terminal prostate cancer. He had been given only a few weeks to live when he first presented for Intravenous vitamin C treatments. Since a strong immune system is really the key to killing all disease taking supplements that are highly recommended for boosting the immune system is really important.Here are a few links with some information on some of the most valuable immune boosters AHCC http://www.ahccpublishedresearch.com/wwwroot-ahcc/studies/AH CURCUMIN http://www.goodhealth.nu/News_Articles/050111-curcumin-anti- FLAX SEED OIL http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/flaxseed-oil-000304.htm LYPO-SPHERIC VITAMIN C http://www.livonlabs.com/cgi-bin/start.cgi/bio-technology/Ly !%22%20Here's%20why... AVEMAR http://www.cancercompass.com/cancer-news/1,12705,00.htm http://www.rejuvenation-science.com/avemar.html http://www.avemarresearch.com/TOC.html http://www.thehealthierlife.co.uk/article/3603/reduce-cancer CoQ10 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coenzyme_Q10 Salvestrol http://www.salvestrol.ca/index.asp Vitamin D http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamind.asp Wobenzym http://www.stopcancer.com/enzymes_wobenzym.htm Lypo Spheric Vitamin C http://healthspotlight.com/Lypo-Spheric-Vitamin-C.html Avemar (Wheat Germ Extract)Avemar is the new wonder-alternative cancer treatment / adjuvant therapy for boosting the immune system and fighting cancer. "Research at UCLA has demonstrated that Avemar reduces glucose flow into the cancer cells.  Cancer cells can evade NK [natural killer] cells by masking their outer membrane with a special substance that the NK cells recognize as 'normal.'  Avemar suppresses the release of this masking substance -- allowing NK cells to better target and kill the cancer cells."  Avemar's immune-stimulating ability appears to be so powerful that it can be useful in helping to restore even the most severely compromised immune systems.

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by vjh68 on Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:00 AM

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Wow..this gives me hope. My 41 year old sister was dx with STage 4 NSCLC in late June.  She has decided on alternatives (ozone, vit c , chelation , diet change...juicing......and supplements before trying the standard rx or chemo/radiation.  A lot of other forums people frown so much on the alternatives...but you read how with the standard.......the quality of life is so poor and still....doctors don't give much hope.  It's just how doctors seem to operate....the prescribe what they know...and most people (understandebly) listen.  I pray for your continued health!

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by Dlynn1210 on Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 8/5/2008 vjh68 wrote:

Wow..this gives me hope. My 41 year old sister was dx with STage 4 NSCLC in late June.  She has decided on alternatives (ozone, vit c , chelation , diet change...juicing......and supplements before trying the standard rx or chemo/radiation.  A lot of other forums people frown so much on the alternatives...but you read how with the standard.......the quality of life is so poor and still....doctors don't give much hope.  It's just how doctors seem to operate....the prescribe what they know...and most people (understandebly) listen.  I pray for your continued health!

Hi vjh68

I told the nutritionist up at the Cancer Treatment Center of America (the sponsor of this wonderful forum) in Zion IL about this posting when I was up there for my check up Friday.  She said she doesn't know how juicing got so popular because you lose 80% of the nutrients, fiber, etc when you juice.  She told me to just eat the carrots and get it all - to forget juicing which only gives 20% of everything available.  It makes perfect sense to me.  She also said to eat raw vegetables as much as possible which is exactly what I have always read about eating raw versus cooked - you lose nutrients when you cook the veggies.  I was surprised to hear that few people ask or even want to see her after their treatment is completed.

Also, for anyone interested, I asked the Naturopathic at CTCA about the intravenous vitamin C as this is one alternative treatment I have read about on this forum that reallyyyy makes sense (not just taking vitamin C tablets).  She told me that there are trials going on right now at CTCA that are being overseen by FDA.  They are using it for all types of cancer.  The treatments are for people who have expended all other forms of treatment rather than as a complementary treatment.  Again, I can see the point as how do you PROVE that it is the intravenous vitamin C if you are utilizing both treatments.          

Diana 

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by vjh68 on Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:00 AM

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Interesting about the juice.  That's what my mom kept saying..."just eat it".  but my sister does eat them....raw...also.  We were told with juicing more gets absorbed and quicker (easier to digest).  It also helps because who is gonna eat a bag of kale in one day :) 

 She is doing the Vitiman C i.v. also...started at 10g working up to 70g under the care of a Dr.

I wish you the best!

 

 

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by Shemay on Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 8/5/2008 vjh68 wrote:

Interesting about the juice.  That's what my mom kept saying..."just eat it".  but my sister does eat them....raw...also.  We were told with juicing more gets absorbed and quicker (easier to digest).  It also helps because who is gonna eat a bag of kale in one day :) 

 She is doing the Vitiman C i.v. also...started at 10g working up to 70g under the care of a Dr.

I wish you the best!

 

 


My medical/alternative doctor and the nutritionist at his clinic both tell me juicing removes indigestible fiber from fruits and vegetables and allows more of the cancer-fighting phytochemicals found in plants to be assimilated into the body. This is especially recommended when one's body is already under stress from disease. I would really be interested to know what other treatments your sister is taking besides the Intravenous Vitamin C. It seems a shame to me that one must wait until all other treatments have been tried and failed before one can be accepted into trials. It would seem more logical to do the gentle C iv (which has no negative side effects) first and move on to the conventional treatments later if there is a need to do so. Please pass along best wishes to your sister for a speedy return to good health.

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by Dlynn1210 on Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 8/5/2008 vjh68 wrote:

Interesting about the juice.  That's what my mom kept saying..."just eat it".  but my sister does eat them....raw...also.  We were told with juicing more gets absorbed and quicker (easier to digest).  It also helps because who is gonna eat a bag of kale in one day :) 

 She is doing the Vitiman C i.v. also...started at 10g working up to 70g under the care of a Dr.

I wish you the best!

 

 


Hi once again -

Your sister is smart - me I have to make myself eat raw carrots but love cooked (and buttered) carrots.  I know - I know - that's bad.  As for me - the food rather than the juice makes more sense (just my opinion).  If I eat something it stays in my system all day, whereas, when I drink something it goes in and back out in a muchhhhh shorter period of time.  If my system is actively digesting something I would think my system would benefit from it more.  I envision when we are cut - all our little microphages rushing in to repair the damage.  Now envision all the little carrots running in to combat the cancer cells.  The juice would just float on by.  As for the kale - I don't want to eat a small amount let alone a bundle but I sure found I could hide a lot of things in a salad.  Besides, if we only get 20% with the juice and 100% with the food doesn't that mean we have to eat a lot less than we drink?  Interesting thoughts!  Now if only someone would come up with that chocolate brownies cures cancer - I'm for it! 

Diana

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by Dlynn1210 on Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 8/5/2008 vjh68 wrote:

Interesting about the juice.  That's what my mom kept saying..."just eat it".  but my sister does eat them....raw...also.  We were told with juicing more gets absorbed and quicker (easier to digest).  It also helps because who is gonna eat a bag of kale in one day :) 

 She is doing the Vitiman C i.v. also...started at 10g working up to 70g under the care of a Dr.

I wish you the best!

 

 


Please let me know how the Intravenous vitamin C works for your mom.  I have a friend who is battling pancreatic cancer and I have already emailed his wife to check into it.  I told her of some of the success others have had with it. 

Diana

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