Any truth to this?

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Any truth to this?

by RyeMan on Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:00 AM

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Is there any truth to stuff like this?

RE: Any truth to this?

by jcr65566 on Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 8/19/2008 RyeMan wrote:

Sorry, I forgot the link

http://germancancerbreakthrough.com/th/

 

Yes it true he gained notoriety when a news paper reporter in the U.S notice  many of his critically ill cancer patients returning home to The U.S from his clinic in Germany were detained by U.S. Customs agents on FDA orders. Their prescribed nontoxic medications, minerals, and nutritional supplements were seized, and his patients said there were made to feel like criminals. in there own county the article said they told the reporter  they were stripped of their essential medical supplies, stripped of their dignity and freedom of choice, and most importantly, stripped of their chances for survival. …the reporter was told by the patients! This was how the FDA ‘protected’ American citizens from  therapeutic treatments. Sorry but the feed for this is dead so I wont post it instead I send you to one of his sites which has the same information in it and also has  this story http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html

RE: Any truth to this?

by Arnold on Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:00 AM

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RIDICULOUS!!!!!!

RE: Any truth to this?

by Shemay on Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 8/26/2008 jcr65566 wrote:

 

On 8/19/2008 RyeMan wrote:

Sorry, I forgot the link

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Yes it true he gained notoriety when a news paper reporter in the U.S notice  many of his critically ill cancer patients returning home to The U.S from his clinic in Germany were detained by U.S. Customs agents on FDA orders. Their prescribed nontoxic medications, minerals, and nutritional supplements were seized, and his patients said there were made to feel like criminals. in there own county the article said they told the reporter  they were stripped of their essential medical supplies, stripped of their dignity and freedom of choice, and most importantly, stripped of their chances for survival. …the reporter was told by the patients! This was how the FDA ‘protected’ American citizens from  therapeutic treatments. Sorry but the feed for this is dead so I wont post it instead I send you to one of his sites which has the same information in it and also has  this story http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html


Ray It is only through an open mind that we can learn the truth of things. I appreciate that quality in you. Here is another link with very positive information about Hans Nieper and how he and his findings were highly regarded by many others in the scientific field. http://www.ralphmoss.com/nieper.html

RE: Any truth to this?

by Arnold on Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:00 AM

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My Mind is WIDE OPEN!!!  This stuff is still rediculous.  Scientific Community??  Ray suggested a while back that we should go to your site (Shelia Ulrich)  Is that your site Shemay?

RE: Any truth to this?

by Shemay on Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:00 AM

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Arnold my comment on open minds was a general comment. I am sorry if you took it personally. No I am not Sheila Ulrich. The people I admire most in any field of healing are the ones who are not driven by profit. I am not commercially connected to anything. Your implications that I have an ulterior motive are a puzzle to me and I am sorry you find most of my messages so upsetting. They are posted with the best of intentions only to share the knowledge I have aquired through walking this path. There is so much to be learned from each other here, we all need to be more tolerant and accepting of each other's philosophies. Take care and Stay Well!!! On 8/26/2008 Arnold wrote: My Mind is WIDE OPEN!!!  This stuff is still rediculous.  Scientific Community??  Ray suggested a while back that we should go to your site (Shelia Ulrich)  Is that your site Shemay? -----end quote------

RE: Any truth to this?

by Arnold on Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 8/26/2008 Shemay wrote:

Arnold my comment on open minds was a general comment. I am sorry if you took it personally. No I am not Sheila Ulrich. The people I admire most in any field of healing are the ones who are not driven by profit. I am not commercially connected to anything. Your implications that I have an ulterior motive are a puzzle to me and I am sorry you find most of my messages so upsetting. They are posted with the best of intentions only to share the knowledge I have aquired through walking this path. There is so much to be learned from each other here, we all need to be more tolerant and accepting of each other's philosophies. Take care and Stay Well!!! On 8/26/2008 Arnold wrote: My Mind is WIDE OPEN!!!  This stuff is still rediculous.  Scientific Community??  Ray suggested a while back that we should go to your site (Shelia Ulrich)  Is that your site Shemay? -----end quote------

Shemay - I was born at night - but not last night!!  Many of your comments are meant for me, but I don't take it personaly.  I support the Vitamin C concept, as you well know, and a few others you support.  You seem to take offence each time I ask questions or disagree with you and others.  Some of these concepts  are rediculous, and I will point that out each time it happens.  And Ray posted the Shelia Ulrich web site stating that it was yours.  I just asked the question.  Your agenda and motives are very clear and so are mine.  We just disagree on some issues. That's what makes it a "horse race" and thank God we have an open forum.  And last but not least, I am not "upset" with you or what you say and incidental or anecdotal "evidence" cannot be accepted as proof of anything.  We can't just toss science out the window.  That is a very slippery slope.

RE: Any truth to this?

by jcr65566 on Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 8/26/2008 Shemay wrote:

 

On 8/26/2008 jcr65566 wrote:

 

On 8/19/2008 RyeMan wrote:

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Yes it true he gained notoriety when a news paper reporter in the U.S notice  many of his critically ill cancer patients returning home to The U.S from his clinic in Germany were detained by U.S. Customs agents on FDA orders. Their prescribed nontoxic medications, minerals, and nutritional supplements were seized, and his patients said there were made to feel like criminals. in there own county the article said they told the reporter  they were stripped of their essential medical supplies, stripped of their dignity and freedom of choice, and most importantly, stripped of their chances for survival. …the reporter was told by the patients! This was how the FDA ‘protected’ American citizens from  therapeutic treatments. Sorry but the feed for this is dead so I wont post it instead I send you to one of his sites which has the same information in it and also has  this story http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.delano.com/Articles/About-Hans-Nieper.html


 

Ray It is only through an open mind that we can learn the truth of things. I appreciate that quality in you. Here is another link with very positive information about Hans Nieper and how he and his findings were highly regarded by many others in the scientific field. http://www.ralphmoss.com/nieper.html

Hes an amazing man I come a cross him when I was researching Alternative treatments for cancer in Australia he was doing research on Iridodials witch are derived from the bodies of the Australian ant. For me I found it fascinating and it can get pretty involved in a nut shell he found that the ant has no immune system yet it is around vast amounts of fungus every day of it life  he wounded why it did not get sick and die what he found was amazing, to learn how it works you have to go in to the electrical properties of cancer cells there is a pdf document at  http://www.sanum-per-aquam.de/pdfs/spa-study-alkaline-14.pdf

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