Alternative treatments: Stage IV Colon cancer/Budwig Protocal

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Alternative treatments: Stage IV Colon cancer/Budwig Protocal

by MSwriter on Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:00 AM

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Hi,

I'm a stage IV colorectal cancer patient, and I've done a lot of research on the Budwig Protocal, which has been around for more than 50 years.  The natural protocal, which consists of large quantities of flax seed oil mixed with cottage cheese  has saved thousands of terminal patients. 

I've been using the protocal for approx. 3 months now and will keep you al posted.  Please post if anyone has further information.  You can find out more about the Budwig protocal by searching Johanna Budwig (top German cancer researcher that was nominated 6 times for the Nobel Prize).

I hope this offers some hope.

God Bless,

Margery 

 

 

RE: Alternative treatments: Stage IV Colon cancer/Budwig Protocal

by jcr65566 on Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 8/31/2008 MSwriter wrote:

Hi,

I'm a stage IV colorectal cancer patient, and I've done a lot of research on the Budwig Protocal, which has been around for more than 50 years.  The natural protocal, which consists of large quantities of flax seed oil mixed with cottage cheese  has saved thousands of terminal patients. 

I've been using the protocal for approx. 3 months now and will keep you al posted.  Please post if anyone has further information.  You can find out more about the Budwig protocal by searching Johanna Budwig (top German cancer researcher that was nominated 6 times for the Nobel Prize).

I hope this offers some hope.

God Bless,

Margery 

 

 


hi Margery Im glade your doing well with Budwig Protocal, I have prostrate cancer and I stall have my prostratre as due to ill health at the time I couldent have my prostrate out but Im doing well on saw permento Pawpaw smothies and carott juice and 6000 mg of vitamin c a day I cant have flax seed oil as Iv been told it bad for the prostrate cancer it amazing when I got told I couldent have the operation I was deverstated but now I think is a God send take care Ray  

RE: Alternative treatments: Stage IV Colon cancer/Budwig Protocal

by Arnold on Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 8/31/2008 jcr65566 wrote:

 

On 8/31/2008 MSwriter wrote:

Hi,

I'm a stage IV colorectal cancer patient, and I've done a lot of research on the Budwig Protocal, which has been around for more than 50 years.  The natural protocal, which consists of large quantities of flax seed oil mixed with cottage cheese  has saved thousands of terminal patients. 

I've been using the protocal for approx. 3 months now and will keep you al posted.  Please post if anyone has further information.  You can find out more about the Budwig protocal by searching Johanna Budwig (top German cancer researcher that was nominated 6 times for the Nobel Prize).

I hope this offers some hope.

God Bless,

Margery 

 

 


hi Margery Im glade your doing well with Budwig Protocal, I have prostrate cancer and I stall have my prostratre as due to ill health at the time I couldent have my prostrate out but Im doing well on saw permento Pawpaw smothies and carott juice and 6000 mg of vitamin c a day I cant have flax seed oil as Iv been told it bad for the prostrate cancer it amazing when I got told I couldent have the operation I was deverstated but now I think is a God send take care Ray  


 

There is no proof that it has saved anyone BY ITSELF.  I have it as part of my overall program including other alternatives, chemo and radiation.  That along with a good diet of veggies, fruit, salads, etc has worked for me along with many others.  It is misleading and unless you have scientific evidence based on actual trials, that it has worked by itself, it is not possible to support.  I hope you are using other elements in your protocol and are being followed by a professional authorized to order scans and other tests to assure you are having your progress tracked.  I am a survivor of stage 3a colon cancer and the above plan has worked for me.

RE: Alternative treatments: Stage IV Colon cancer/Budwig Protocal

by Shemay on Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:00 AM

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Hello Margery Dr. Johanna Budwig has been referred to as a top European Cancer Research Scientist, Biochemist, Blood Specialist, German Pharmacologist, and Physicist. Dr Budwig was a seven-time Nobel Prize nominee before her death five years ago at the age of 95. I have had good success using only alternatives and the Budwig cottage cheese/flax seed oil is highly recommended by my medical/alternative doctor for all his cancer patients. Here is a link with much valuable information ......... http://cancertutor.com/Cancer/Budwig.html ............. Please do keep us posted as to your progress. I'm sure the news will be good.

On 8/31/2008 MSwriter wrote:

Hi,

I'm a stage IV colorectal cancer patient, and I've done a lot of research on the Budwig Protocal, which has been around for more than 50 years.  The natural protocal, which consists of large quantities of flax seed oil mixed with cottage cheese  has saved thousands of terminal patients. 

I've been using the protocal for approx. 3 months now and will keep you al posted.  Please post if anyone has further information.  You can find out more about the Budwig protocal by searching Johanna Budwig (top German cancer researcher that was nominated 6 times for the Nobel Prize).

I hope this offers some hope.

God Bless,

Margery 

 

 


RE: Alternative treatments: Stage IV Colon cancer/Budwig Protocal

by Shemay on Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:00 AM

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Hi Ray I just noticed your comment that flax seed oil is not recommended for you because of your prostate cancer so I referred to a fairly recent study (2007) that I had bookmarked re flax SEED being beneficial for pc. Here's the link........ http://www.nutraingredients.com/Research/Eating-flaxseed-may ............ Perhaps if Tre is onboard and spots this post she can explain why the seed might be recommended when the oil is not. Stay well!!

On 8/31/2008 jcr65566 wrote:

 

On 8/31/2008 MSwriter wrote:

Hi,

I'm a stage IV colorectal cancer patient, and I've done a lot of research on the Budwig Protocal, which has been around for more than 50 years.  The natural protocal, which consists of large quantities of flax seed oil mixed with cottage cheese  has saved thousands of terminal patients. 

I've been using the protocal for approx. 3 months now and will keep you al posted.  Please post if anyone has further information.  You can find out more about the Budwig protocal by searching Johanna Budwig (top German cancer researcher that was nominated 6 times for the Nobel Prize).

I hope this offers some hope.

God Bless,

Margery 

 

 


hi Margery Im glade your doing well with Budwig Protocal, I have prostrate cancer and I stall have my prostratre as due to ill health at the time I couldent have my prostrate out but Im doing well on saw permento Pawpaw smothies and carott juice and 6000 mg of vitamin c a day I cant have flax seed oil as Iv been told it bad for the prostrate cancer it amazing when I got told I couldent have the operation I was deverstated but now I think is a God send take care Ray  


RE: Alternative treatments: Stage IV Colon cancer/Budwig Protocal

by Arnold on Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 8/31/2008 Shemay wrote:

Hi Ray I just noticed your comment that flax seed oil is not recommended for you because of your prostate cancer so I referred to a fairly recent study (2007) that I had bookmarked re flax SEED being beneficial for pc. Here's the link........ http://www.nutraingredients.com/Research/Eating-flaxseed-may ............ Perhaps if Tre is onboard and spots this post she can explain why the seed might be recommended when the oil is not. Stay well!!

 

On 8/31/2008 jcr65566 wrote:

 

On 8/31/2008 MSwriter wrote:

Hi,

I'm a stage IV colorectal cancer patient, and I've done a lot of research on the Budwig Protocal, which has been around for more than 50 years.  The natural protocal, which consists of large quantities of flax seed oil mixed with cottage cheese  has saved thousands of terminal patients. 

I've been using the protocal for approx. 3 months now and will keep you al posted.  Please post if anyone has further information.  You can find out more about the Budwig protocal by searching Johanna Budwig (top German cancer researcher that was nominated 6 times for the Nobel Prize).

I hope this offers some hope.

God Bless,

Margery 

 

 


hi Margery Im glade your doing well with Budwig Protocal, I have prostrate cancer and I stall have my prostratre as due to ill health at the time I couldent have my prostrate out but Im doing well on saw permento Pawpaw smothies and carott juice and 6000 mg of vitamin c a day I cant have flax seed oil as Iv been told it bad for the prostrate cancer it amazing when I got told I couldent have the operation I was deverstated but now I think is a God send take care Ray  


 

Many of us use it as part of our alternative package.  If it worked by itself, I'm sure that many would use it as a single approach.  Some believe it works along with other alternatives and some, as I, believe it works best in concert with traditional protocols.  There is no "right way" that one can impose on the other.  As the man said "you pays your money and you takes your chances".  I',m continuing in my fight and I go with all the above.  I think the odds are more in my favor that way.  Many, many of us agree with that on this post and others.  No arguement here - only disagreement, and that's  OK.

RE: Alternative treatments: Stage IV Colon cancer/Budwig Protocal

by trehouse60 on Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:00 AM

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Tre has just come on board and indeed has seen the message.  Somebody must have been thinking my name and calling me to this post!!

I have two comments off the top of my head:

Budwig treated patients with this diet for many years, with great success.  I am sure there is plenty of documentation of this in her records - whether or not those records have been made public and whether or not the traditional medical community will let them exist without a major effort to discredit them is another question.  If you take a very close look at the true Budwig diet, you will see that it is not JUST cottage cheese and flax oil, but indeed a combination of many foods that are extremely powerful in fighting cancer, because they go about destroying cancer cells in a number of different ways.  Some therapies fail because they have only one method of action for getting at cancer, and not all cancers succumb to each and every attack on them. That's why I always recommend a variety of therapeutic supplements - attack the cancer on every front you possibly can.  (If I've got 3 or 4 guys coming thru my front door to rob me, I'd much rather fight with a pump action shotgun filled with the biggest shells I can get rather than a measly little 2-shot deringer!!)  In terms of cancer diets, the Budwig diet is one of the two best I've seen.

There are videos available on the internet that describe the Budwig diet and how to use it.  I have the link somewhere, but as usual, can't bring it immediately to hand.  I will try to remember to find it and post it in the message thread.  If y'all don't see it in a couple of days, give me a holler, OK?

Ok, 2nd comment: flax oil for prostate cancer.  There are some cancers over which I have some concerns about using flax oil - estrogen-receptor positive breast cancer is one of them. Flax oil contains very strong phytoestrogens - just not convinced that's a good choice for a cancer that really likes estrogen, so I chose not to do the Budwig diet when I was diagnosed with mets in Feb.  I have, however - now that the mets is in remission - added a small amount of ground flax seed with cottage cheese to my breakfast meal, along with green tea and 100% concord grape juice.  If you read about the Brandt grape diet in combination with the Budwig diet you will understand why I do this (and maybe when I have more time and can find the links, I will put out a message specifically about this combination.) 

But for now, my question is that perhaps there might be a hormonal implication for using flax oil for prostate cancer.  Phytoestrogens aren't the only plant hormones in existence - there are many plants and herbs and foods that affect many of the body's hormones, and this might be possibly true for prostate cancer.  i will put i on my list of research topics.

Budwig and others recommended flax oil as opposed to flax seed because it's really difficult to get the same amount of the vital OPC's, etc, from seeds alone.  Oil - ANY OIL - is a much more concentrated form of the plant of origin, thus making flax oil more potent than the seeds.  We have to be careful, however, when choosing oil over seeds - and again, this is true of all oils.  In the case of flax, the hull of the seeds contain lignon, which is every bit as the OPC's etc in killing cancer cells.  Once a cancer cell is weakened by taking antioxidants, etc, inside, then lignon exerts its inflence and actually splits the cell wall apart.  One reaction is dependent on the other, but the latter is definitely much more lethal than the former. 

So, the moral of the story here is that not all flax oils contain the hulls - so if you're gonna use flax oil, get 100% pure organic flax oil with LIGNONS.  Barleans makes extremely high quality flax oils, and the brand is available in many health food stores as well as online.  Costs a little bit more than some of the other brands, but that extra expense is well worth it.  The other important thing to keep in mind is that flax oil needs to be refrigerated as it will go rancid very rapidly when exposed to intense or prolonged heat. (And you need to keep it in the dark bottle it comes in, as it is also inactivated by exposure to light.)

I will try to find the link for the Budwig diet videos and will try to remember to check out flax for prostate.

Y'all take care,

Tre

RE: Alternative treatments: Stage IV Colon cancer/Budwig Protocal

by Arnold on Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 8/31/2008 trehouse60 wrote:

Tre has just come on board and indeed has seen the message.  Somebody must have been thinking my name and calling me to this post!!

I have two comments off the top of my head:

Budwig treated patients with this diet for many years, with great success.  I am sure there is plenty of documentation of this in her records - whether or not those records have been made public and whether or not the traditional medical community will let them exist without a major effort to discredit them is another question.  If you take a very close look at the true Budwig diet, you will see that it is not JUST cottage cheese and flax oil, but indeed a combination of many foods that are extremely powerful in fighting cancer, because they go about destroying cancer cells in a number of different ways.  Some therapies fail because they have only one method of action for getting at cancer, and not all cancers succumb to each and every attack on them. That's why I always recommend a variety of therapeutic supplements - attack the cancer on every front you possibly can.  (If I've got 3 or 4 guys coming thru my front door to rob me, I'd much rather fight with a pump action shotgun filled with the biggest shells I can get rather than a measly little 2-shot deringer!!)  In terms of cancer diets, the Budwig diet is one of the two best I've seen.

There are videos available on the internet that describe the Budwig diet and how to use it.  I have the link somewhere, but as usual, can't bring it immediately to hand.  I will try to remember to find it and post it in the message thread.  If y'all don't see it in a couple of days, give me a holler, OK?

Ok, 2nd comment: flax oil for prostate cancer.  There are some cancers over which I have some concerns about using flax oil - estrogen-receptor positive breast cancer is one of them. Flax oil contains very strong phytoestrogens - just not convinced that's a good choice for a cancer that really likes estrogen, so I chose not to do the Budwig diet when I was diagnosed with mets in Feb.  I have, however - now that the mets is in remission - added a small amount of ground flax seed with cottage cheese to my breakfast meal, along with green tea and 100% concord grape juice.  If you read about the Brandt grape diet in combination with the Budwig diet you will understand why I do this (and maybe when I have more time and can find the links, I will put out a message specifically about this combination.) 

But for now, my question is that perhaps there might be a hormonal implication for using flax oil for prostate cancer.  Phytoestrogens aren't the only plant hormones in existence - there are many plants and herbs and foods that affect many of the body's hormones, and this might be possibly true for prostate cancer.  i will put i on my list of research topics.

Budwig and others recommended flax oil as opposed to flax seed because it's really difficult to get the same amount of the vital OPC's, etc, from seeds alone.  Oil - ANY OIL - is a much more concentrated form of the plant of origin, thus making flax oil more potent than the seeds.  We have to be careful, however, when choosing oil over seeds - and again, this is true of all oils.  In the case of flax, the hull of the seeds contain lignon, which is every bit as the OPC's etc in killing cancer cells.  Once a cancer cell is weakened by taking antioxidants, etc, inside, then lignon exerts its inflence and actually splits the cell wall apart.  One reaction is dependent on the other, but the latter is definitely much more lethal than the former. 

So, the moral of the story here is that not all flax oils contain the hulls - so if you're gonna use flax oil, get 100% pure organic flax oil with LIGNONS.  Barleans makes extremely high quality flax oils, and the brand is available in many health food stores as well as online.  Costs a little bit more than some of the other brands, but that extra expense is well worth it.  The other important thing to keep in mind is that flax oil needs to be refrigerated as it will go rancid very rapidly when exposed to intense or prolonged heat. (And you need to keep it in the dark bottle it comes in, as it is also inactivated by exposure to light.)

I will try to find the link for the Budwig diet videos and will try to remember to check out flax for prostate.

Y'all take care,

Tre


That is exactly why I do all the above Y'all.  Best to not take any chances.  How do we know there have been great successes (cures?) if we have never seen the records?  Has any one done the research to find them?  Do you know something Tre about the traditional medical communities efforts to keep those from becoming public.  I know I feel better selecting from that protocol.  I think a lot of us do and I have never questioned it.  Why go off on the traditional medical cummunity??

RE: Alternative treatments: Stage IV Colon cancer/Budwig Protocal

by trehouse60 on Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:00 AM

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Read "ALIVE AND WELL:  One Doctor's Experience with Nutrition in the
Treatment of Cancer Patients"  By Philip E. Binzel, Jr., M.D.  available in PDF by download at www.laetrile.com.au

Dr Binzel was a highly respected and very reputable physician who used vitamin b-17 (also known as amygdalin, and laetrile) safely and effectively for many, many years.  He had decades of documentation of the effectiveness of b-17 in treating cancers that did not respond to traditional therapies; his years of practice absolutely refute the notion that b-17 is a harmful therapy that has no place in medicine. (B-17 occurs naturally in over 1700 foods - surely there is a good reason Mother Earth offers such an abundance of this resource.)

Dr Binzel also personally fought many, many battles against the medical establishment to be allowed to offer this treatment to people whom the traditional medical community was failing.

Dr. Binzel is but one of many who was persecuted and prosecuted for his belief in and desire to treat people with the tools mother nature provided. I could list many more published examples, but my experience has been that those who will not accept one undeniably true example that all is not as it seems in the world of medicine at large, are unlikely to be any more persuaded by a host of examples.

Ty Bollinger's book, "Cancer: Step Out of the Box" is an extremely well-written and well-documented piece about the treatment of proponents of natural medical treatments by the medical and pharmaceutical industries, as well as a detailed account of therapeutic protocols available with references and contact information.  Ty's book is available from his web site:

www.cancertruth.net

While I have never met Ty personally, I have corresponded with him through email.  He is a very dignified, respectable and responsible Christian man.  Rest assured that this book is not the product of a charlatan just trying to make money for himself - he himself says on his web site that he will make his book available for free to those who cannot affort to buy it, because he believes that ALL should have opportunity to learn the truth about cancer care.  I know this is true, because that is how I got my copy.

I will repeat what I have said many, many times before on the board.  I would never, ever, tell someone to discontinue conventional therapy without a truly good reason and unless it is what they of their own accord want to do.  Nor would I ever try to convince anyone to continue with conventional therapy if they did not want to.  How we choose to take care of ourselves is no one's business but our own, and no one can choose what is best for another  person. (Unfortunately with cancer sometimes people are forced to choose when a loved one cannot make that choice for themselves - but that is not what I'm talking about here.)  I think that people need to do the best they can to become fully informed about ALL the options, and then be allowed to make the choice they think is best for themselves.

However, the older I get, the more I see messages on this board and on the internet elsewhere, the more I reflect on all the ill people I took care of in my nursing career, and the more I think about both people who were dear to me who suffered and/or died because of cancer and people that I have known or heard of with cancer, the more I become firmly  convinced that  modern medicine, practitioners and researchers of conventional, orthodox, traditional therapies are missing the boat.  If you take a look at my blog:

http://motherearthtreasurechest.blogspot.com

you will see that I truly believe that the earth has provided EVERYTHING we need to achieve and sustain good health, if we but know how to recognize and use what we need.  Yes, I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT. Hundreds and hundreds of preparations in use today are derived from the simple to the exotic resources found in nature.  Guaifenesin - the active ingredient in Robitussin and now countless other cough and asthma preparations - is a synthetic derived from guaiacam, which is a tree bark.  Aspirin is a synthetic derived from willow bark.  Taxol - yes, the chemotherapy drug - is a synthetic derived from yew tree bark. Theophylline, a drug so crucial to hundreds of thousands of people with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, is found naturally in tea. Lemon and other fruits with high concentrations of citric acids are mucolytics - they cut thru mucus, (as well as being potent cancer fighters.)  So the old wives tale to treat a cold or sore throat with hot tea and lemon - guess what - yes, that is exactly what you should do (unless you are allergic to tea and/or lemon.)  Menthol and eucalyptus and a number of other natural herbs found in Hall's cough drops are also found in Tiger Balm.  One is sold by a pharmaceutical company, the other is sold by nutraceutical and herbal companies.  Guess what?  Put a little tiny dab of Tiger Balm in each nostril - it will make that sinus congestion and headache go away.  No more drainage, no more cough.

My 99 year old grandmother tells the story of having gotten hepatitis when she was a much younger woman. While by herself  on the farm (everyone else had gone off for a few days to the fair and she had stayed behind to tend the animals) she began to get desperately ill. No one to help her, no way to get anywhere that anyone else could help her....  there was a wagon of green onions that had just been harvested from the field.  Something inside her said to eat the green onions, and she did, every single one of them. Goodbye hepatitis - by the time everyone came home from the fair she was well enough again that none of them believed she'd ever even been sick.  Now don't you dare go calling my Grandma a liar or say she must have just had the flu.  She worked as an LPN - she knew when she was sick and she knew what hepatitis was.

So I more than once have told people desperately battling pancreatic and/or liver cancer to eat green onions.  Come to find out since I've started doing research on complementary and alternative therapies, green onion contains some of the most potent liver healers known to man.  Wouldn't surprise me if the liver cancer drugs are synthetic green onions!

The fact is, natural works!  Not all the time, and not for everyone.  I have said many times on the board and I will undoubtedly say it many more times - not everyone's body chemistry is the same!  What works for me may not work for you, and what works for person A may not work for person B.  We also have to consider the fact many alternative treatments fail because by the time the poor people dying of cancer turn to them out of desperation, they are already so malnourished and debilitated from conventional therapies that it's just too late for natural to have time to work!!!!!  The harsh realitiy is that  many conventional treatments are WOEFULLY FAILING to do what they are supposed to do.  In fact, chemotherapy and radiation are POISON.  (We could all take lessons from them about non-discrimination :  Not only do they kill cancer cells - they kill healthy cells too!)  Natural therapies don't do that - not when you have the right resource for whatever it is you're treating.  Really makes no sense to choose a poison when you could be choosing something that works that is absolutely good for you.

Unfortunately, at some point along the way people discovered that they could make money if they had treatments and cures that other people didn't have.  Enter the common denominator: greed. The altruistic intentions of the local apothecary gave way to the commercial enterprise of modern medicine.  Granted, earth's resources are limited - trying to find a way to produce in a laboratory the same thing that nature produced from the ground in and of itself was not an evil idea. Patenting synthetics to make money while shamelessly seeking to ban use of the natural resource from which the synthetic is derived IS an evil idea, and believe it or not, it has been, and is being done. Ask our Canadian contributors to the board about their government's efforts to ban the use of herbs and supplements...

I'm not saying that every person involved in practice of traditional medicine, health care, and the pharmaceutical industry is a nasty greedy evil troll.  Far from that - there are hundreds of thousands of professionals the world round who truly desire to help people get and stay well, and are doing the best they know how with what they have available to make it happen.  I salute those people - I wish there were more of them.  But even more than that, I wish for a world where physical and mental and spiritual and emotional well-being were universally valued by ALL far above financial gain and job security.  Maybe then we might see anecdotal evidence start to be called reliable statistics, and we might see naturalists and scientist world-wide working side by side to find out what remedy works best for what disease, and how to make it possible for people to live lives aimed at prevention rather than just functioning in damage-control mode.

I shuddered the day 6 years ago when my oncologist told me that very soon cancer would be considered a chronic disease like diabetes; that scientists would no longer be seeking cures but instead developing medications designed to allow a person to live with cancer.  (No ,,,  I am not saying I want people to die.   Read on.....)  Yes, people are now living longer with cancer - and if that is because of advances in medications and treatments, then I say HOORAY!  BUt you know what?  BREAST CANCER is still the 3RD leading killer of women in the world.  And likely to CONTINUE to be the 3rd leading killer of women  because with new drugs and technology science and medicine seem to have given up on finding a cure, choosing instead to accept breast cancer as a chronic condition. Well, it ISN'T a chronic condition - it's a KILLER.  To me that is an unacceptable choice. (See "Dr.Susan Love's Breast Book", 4th ed. She is one of the leading experts in the world on breast cancer - to her, also, NOT working to find a cure is an unacceptable choice.  SHE is looking at the use of natural therapy as well as trying to improve conventional therapy, because she has seen the evidence that nature heals. Her goal is to eradicate breast cancer in her lifetime.  why have  other leading cancer experts in the world not followed her example?)

Take a look on the internet and talk to people in the community who have survived metastatic cancer 10, 20, 30 years or more.  I will be the first  to admit that some of those people attribute their longevity to conventional treatments, and I do not doubt for one minute that they are telling the truth . For some people, conventional therapy really works.  But as I said earlier, not every treatment is going to work equally well for every person.  What is good for a lady with breast cancer in Sacramento isn't necessarily going to be good for me.  (Don't ask me why I chose Sacramento - just popped into my head!) While you're taking a look at statistics of those who have survived metastatic cancer for more than a decade, make sure to find out about those who attribute their longevity to complementary and/or alternative therapies.  There are an astounding number of people who were diagnosed with metastatic cancer and not expected to survive who have now been doing the happy dance for many, many, many years, who never had a single drop of chemo or even the tiniest bit of radiation.  Now were these people misdiagnosed and didn't really have cancer???  No .......   I think not. I think the truth is that they found the right natural resource for their body chemistry and their condition, and they did what they needed to do to survive.  I don't call these people anecdotes - I call them statistics!!!  (Well, actually, I call them survivors!)

Fortunately for the world, more and more conventional scientists and medical practitioners are turning to natural research and supplemental therapies. People are starting to realize that after all these years, chemo has gotten better, but it still isn't totally fitting the bill, and these people are pushing for a more complete answer.  Hopefully that answer is coming. I seriously believe it will consist of much more turning to natural therapies than synthetics.  Unfortunately for those of us who read and post to this board, I don't think the complete answer is going to come in time for us to experience it.  Not meaning to be a spewer of doom and gloom - just a realist.

That doesn't mean that we should all sit back, cross our arms, and wait for cancer to run us over like a freight train.  Oh no ,,,,,, no way Jose'!  We need to keep doing exactly what we're doing. Having discourse about the benefits of conventional versus alternative - so that people can become informed and make their own choices.  Those that believe strongly in conventional therapy and have seen good results need to keep talking about their experience and sharing their knowledge.  As do those who believe in natural, and those who believe in a combination of the two.  Time after time after time we see on this board that care providers just don't always tell us everything we need to know.  And they don't always KNOW what we need to know.

This message board, and others like it, are the absolute best anecdotal and statistical evidence the cancer community has. It is absolutely the best knowledge base you will ever find, just by virtue of its diverse and dynamic nature.  I've written a very long and probably blunt message because I wholeheartedly believe in this process.  My hope is the same as others across the board:  that I can always learn more, both to my own benefit and that of others; and that in sharing, maybe, just maybe, I can help someone not have to go through what I have gone through myself, or that somehow their having read something I have written will help to make things a little bit better for them.

I respect the traditional medical community; I no longer totally agree with them, but I respect them.  The dr's and nurses and medical staff involved in my care did the best they knew how to give me the best treatment they could give.  I appreciate their efforts, and tell as many of them thank you as often as I can.

But even more than needing care from traditional medicine, I need to know and share the truth.  I think that the very high ups - the ones who are really making the big bucks and have the most to lose if the medical community fails, have not been truthful with the American public, and with the other citizens of the world.  So when I "go off on traditional medicine" I am not meaning to knock those individuals who genuinely care about their patients and the integrity of their jobs, but rather the establishment that allows less than the truth to be known and less than the very best the world has to offer to be attainable by those who are vulnerable and need it most. So I'll try to watch my wording - make sure I'm fair in the things I say - the last thing in the world I want to do is harm someone through something I've said or written.  But I won't stop advocating herbs and supplements and natural foods while questioning the wisdom of relying solely on orthodox care, cause I think that much of the truth lies beyond that which we already know.

Good grief, Tre .......   time to shut up!!!! My apologies to those who just wanted to know about stage IV colon cancer and the Budwig diet!!!!!!  And thanks, Arnold, for challenging me - you really made me think about my convictions.  Me thinks they are quite strong!!!!!!

Sincerely,

Tre

RE: Alternative treatments: Stage IV Colon cancer/Budwig Protocal

by Arnold on Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:00 AM

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Mine too!!!!!!!!   And the medical community is not going to fail.  I come out of the business community and understand it very well.  Those higher ups are the ones who put themselves and their companies at risk when they put billions of dollars in research and development in all industries.  This is a capitalistic economy and it thrives when lots of people are making lots of money, and not just the "higher ups".  We need that continuation and perpetuation of their focus for more and better "stuff" that can help fix all of us medically.  The same for all of the folks who focus on more and better stuff in the alternative area.  They make lots of bucks too - billions.  That is what this is all about.  FOLLOW THE MONEY.  I am just glad they are all around to help all of us.  Too much "Good Guy Bad Guy" going around for me on this post currently.  The truth of the matter is we agree more than we disagree and that needs to be our focus.
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