Zeolite: the facts

Hi I am new to this site and have spent a couple of nights trying to find out 'The facts' about Zeloite. Having battled cancer for 12 years I am on my third lot of secondaries. This time surgery is not an option as I have multiple disparate tumours - here we go again with radio and chemo. As a qualified nurse of 25 years my faith has always been with the 'Docs', but this time we all agree my treatment is purely palliative. So when you are desperate you try anything. I have trawled the internet for info on zeolite and other products and I am totally confused. Every company seems to more interested in trying to discredit other companies than anything else. So if I do choose to purchase which one do I buy from? I also need someone I can contact to give me real solid advice (In the U.K.) on what supplements etc to take so if anyone out there knows a good, honest and reliable source of information I would be grateful.

I know there are many negative posts regarding supplements and Zeolite in particular, but I do feel that when the grim reaper is looking over your shoulder anything is worth a shot.

Thanks in anticipation

 

 

On 8/31/2008 haspain wrote:

Hi I am new to this site and have spent a couple of nights trying to find out 'The facts' about Zeloite. Having battled cancer for 12 years I am on my third lot of secondaries. This time surgery is not an option as I have multiple disparate tumours - here we go again with radio and chemo. As a qualified nurse of 25 years my faith has always been with the 'Docs', but this time we all agree my treatment is purely palliative. So when you are desperate you try anything. I have trawled the internet for info on zeolite and other products and I am totally confused. Every company seems to more interested in trying to discredit other companies than anything else. So if I do choose to purchase which one do I buy from? I also need someone I can contact to give me real solid advice (In the U.K.) on what supplements etc to take so if anyone out there knows a good, honest and reliable source of information I would be grateful.

I know there are many negative posts regarding supplements and Zeolite in particular, but I do feel that when the grim reaper is looking over your shoulder anything is worth a shot.

Thanks in anticipation

 

hi welcome to the site if we can help you feel free if you just want to vent ok I have advance prostrate cancer out side the prostrate and I still have my prostrate last year Iv took a cause of cellular Zeolite 15 drops 4 times a day it cost me about $500 Australian I don’t know if it was the large amount of vitamin BI-O-C I was on or the cellular  Zeolite but  my PSA test reading was cut in half Iv come across people who went into remission using it and other supplements like large amounts of antioxidants so it was well worth it’s it. What it dos is work as a detoxifier what they say on the internet is there are three thing that cause cancer toxins diet and stress if you get toxins out of your body it make it easier for our  body’s own immune system to do what it dos best kill cancer I now  use Pawpaw and carrot juice and supplements to help with my cancer if you need to know more let me know God bless and take care  Ray

Hi  - thanks for replying so quickly. Sorry to hear you are a sufferrer too, but you seem very upbeat and positive which I believe is half the battle. This Zeolite business has got me so confused. I understand how the product is supposed to work but everyone seems to be using cellular zeolite. I have come across 'enhanced zeolite' 'NCD' 'Zeo3' etc etc and I have absolutely no idea which is the correct one to try or where to get it from as every web site seems to say theirs is the purest and best. I am keen to try Papaya (Paw Paw) and (yuck! yuck! - I hate carrots) the carrot juice, as so many people seem to be fans of the two. What I have found on the net is so many conflicting stories and so many differrent products it is hard to know where to start or what to choose. Anyway I am so grateful to have found this site,it is so full of positive and helpful people, probably like you, I prefer to be thinking positive thoughts rather than bemoaning my fate. If you have any more tips I would be glad to hear from you. Keep smiling - sending you warm wishes

 

On 9/1/2008 haspain wrote:

Hi  - thanks for replying so quickly. Sorry to hear you are a sufferrer too, but you seem very upbeat and positive which I believe is half the battle. This Zeolite business has got me so confused. I understand how the product is supposed to work but everyone seems to be using cellular zeolite. I have come across 'enhanced zeolite' 'NCD' 'Zeo3' etc etc and I have absolutely no idea which is the correct one to try or where to get it from as every web site seems to say theirs is the purest and best. I am keen to try Papaya (Paw Paw) and (yuck! yuck! - I hate carrots) the carrot juice, as so many people seem to be fans of the two. What I have found on the net is so many conflicting stories and so many differrent products it is hard to know where to start or what to choose. Anyway I am so grateful to have found this site,it is so full of positive and helpful people, probably like you, I prefer to be thinking positive thoughts rather than bemoaning my fate. If you have any more tips I would be glad to hear from you. Keep smiling - sending you warm wishes

Hi you to, sound positive being positive is good. I try to tell you about cellular Zeolite The ancient Chinese use to use a form of it. How it works is because the cellular Zeolite molecule is a cage that sucks heavy metals and toxins into the cage then the body filters it out taking the toxin and heavy metals with it. Cellular Zeolite only last in the body 6 hours. That why we have to keep taking it. The other stuff they add on to it are just bells and whisles. I often say I’m fighting cancer but what I’m actually doing is controlling it. I think of it as the ratchet principle, I use antioxidants to stop it growing else were and I use the paw paw to slowly kill it off. The problem is in a tumor we have millions of cancer cells all we can do is chip away at it slowly. With Paw paw  they say Pregnant woman and children should  not eat it as it attacks the ATP the pump that pumps energy into the cell un born baby’s and children have rapidly dividing cells a substance in the paw paw attacks these rapidly dividing cells. You know its funny how you get use to things When I started eating Paw paw it had a taste and a smell I imagine a lot like rotten socks. But after a while It developed a sweet taste, then when I started having pawpaw with the skin on it was so bitter I found it almost imposable to eat. Days later  I was talking to a lady she told me her husband had it in a smoothie with a banana and a cup of milk after I tried this I could now stand it and now, I kinder like it. The carrot juice use to taste and, smell like dirt but now I kind of like it to. As it doesn’t taste like dirt any more to me now it has a sweet taste. I suppose this is because I wasn’t having sugar in my food any more. You know haveing to eat and srink I once thought, my taste buds must have died, but as I said you get use to it. I do a lot of research in the library but I find it easier to doing research on the internet I found a bit on vitamin B and schizophrenia. It said schizophrenia patient do better on vitamin B. Also psychological functions in healthy adults are beter on vitamin B. There have been some 53 controlled trials into the effects of niacin, vitamin B6, and multivitamins on mental functions some show very good results others show almost no good results this to me was a little bit confusing still going through it. I take about a 1000mg of vitamin b a day the brain controls most of the funion in the body get it working better it can help cancontrol imune system fight with the cancer better Can you tell me What do you use to control your cancer let me know hope this helps Take care and God be with you Ray    

Hi ray

Thanks for your Message. Lots of useful info. As for controlling my cancer and what I do - well up until a few weeks ago when I found I had new secondaries I had followed medical protocols (I am a Registered Nurse so my faith had always been with Docs!).

My cancer is called Sarcoma and is very difficult to treat. 12 years ago my chances of survival were virtually nil, however I survived nearly 8 years without any secondaries. I did not change my lifestyle or alter my diet until I came to Spain 5 years ago. I had been here less than a year when the secondaries appeared. The only difference to my life here was that I stopped taking enormous amounts of antacids because I no longer had a business and no longer had constant indigestion. I am almost 100% convinced that the antacids kept my body highly alkaline which inhibited tumour production - no proof just a gut (forgive the pun) feeling. When I was diagnosed with more seconadaries a few weeks ago I racked my brains for what was differrent in my life here to England and they are the only thing. So I am now taking huge amounts of them again - worth a try.

I am also eating a lot of fruits (raspberries my favourite) cereals and nuts and drinking fruit juice. I also drink powdered vitamin C about 3 sachets a day 1000mg. I have zeolite and B17 on the way which I will start taking. I refuse to deprive myself of little treats that I enjoy, I dont drink alcohol (don't like the taste) but I do like the ocasional piece of choclate. I swim in the summer months but am not a great one for exercising. Other than that I do not suppose I do anything that makes me any differrent from anyone else. As I have said I am convinced about the antacids being a contributory factor and suggest it may be of interest to research.

WoW! I have written an essay here, sorry if I have bored you. Keep in contact let me know how you are doing.

haspain 

 

On 9/6/2008 haspain wrote:

Hi ray

Thanks for your Message. Lots of useful info. As for controlling my cancer and what I do - well up until a few weeks ago when I found I had new secondaries I had followed medical protocols (I am a Registered Nurse so my faith had always been with Docs!).

My cancer is called Sarcoma and is very difficult to treat. 12 years ago my chances of survival were virtually nil, however I survived nearly 8 years without any secondaries. I did not change my lifestyle or alter my diet until I came to Spain 5 years ago. I had been here less than a year when the secondaries appeared. The only difference to my life here was that I stopped taking enormous amounts of antacids because I no longer had a business and no longer had constant indigestion. I am almost 100% convinced that the antacids kept my body highly alkaline which inhibited tumour production - no proof just a gut (forgive the pun) feeling. When I was diagnosed with more seconadaries a few weeks ago I racked my brains for what was differrent in my life here to England and they are the only thing. So I am now taking huge amounts of them again - worth a try.

I am also eating a lot of fruits (raspberries my favourite) cereals and nuts and drinking fruit juice. I also drink powdered vitamin C about 3 sachets a day 1000mg. I have zeolite and B17 on the way which I will start taking. I refuse to deprive myself of little treats that I enjoy, I dont drink alcohol (don't like the taste) but I do like the ocasional piece of choclate. I swim in the summer months but am not a great one for exercising. Other than that I do not suppose I do anything that makes me any differrent from anyone else. As I have said I am convinced about the antacids being a contributory factor and suggest it may be of interest to research.

WoW! I have written an essay here, sorry if I have bored you. Keep in contact let me know how you are doing.

haspain 

hi haspain your an RN My wife also a registed nurse , she works at the clinics here I think you may be right about the anty acid a few patient here has had GBM Glioblastoma multiforme,one for about eight I think  last year I told them about drinking BI-Cab soda one half spoon of it in a half a glass of water three times a day on this site a few weeks a go we debunk it and told patient it was usless that same patient told me last week there in remision they said a PET scan showed no tumor it has gone I dont know if it was the Large amount of vitamin C or the Bi-cab sada but some thing worked  I cant remember if I told you but have advance prostrate cancer but I still have my prostrate due to il health last year I put in a post last week that I talked to two patient and they told me that High-Dose Vitamin C Injection therapy had put them both into remission so I thought  it worked for them.( I was also on Zeolite at the time) so I started  taking 1000mg tablets of BI-O C (vitamin C ) a day, ( I have a PSA test ever three months) on my next PSA test two weeks later the PSA test showed my PSA  had gone down by half. I still take Vitamin C but now  6000mg a day.  I all so have Pawpaw smoothies and 2 cups of carrot Juice a day I never though I feel this good  My PSA is looking better and is slowly going down just had my PSA  test yestaday. wont know to next week  what it is I now know that what Im  doing works and I think what you said about you  stopped taking enormous amounts of antacids was right I dont know why it works but as long as it working the beter take care and God Bless Ray 

Hi haspain Me thinks your "gut feeling" is correct about the antacids. They would have indeed been keeping your system alkaline and that is exactly what baking soda can do as well. The doctor at the clinic I go to recommends all his cancer patients use Ph testing strips and then use 1/2 or more teaspoon of baking soda in water or ginger-ale several times a day to keep their levels stable....... http://endlesswellness.blogspot.com/2007/02/baking-soda-as-n ..................... He also highly recommends the use of high daily doses of ascorbic acid. I personally use 10grams daily and up to bowel tolerance (40grams is my personal level) when I feel my health is compromised by stress or other factors such as an impending cold etc. I also use a vit c product called lypo spheric which is a very efficient high dose source since it is delivered in nano-spheres. .......... http://www.livonlabs.com/ ........ I also now take maintenance Intravenous vitamin C /lipoic acid/???? treatments every six or so weeks after having weekly infusions for about ten months. I am going to attach a list of supplements with some links to information about them which I hope will be helpful for you. Since a strong immune system is really the key to killing all disease, taking the supplements that are highly recommended for boosting the immune system is really important.Here are a few links with some information on some of the most valuable immune boosters that my doctor recommends. Of course we all have our own particular deficiencies so it is best to see a naturopath or other alternative healthcare professional to have your own testing done. ................... AHCC http://www.ahccpublishedresearch.com/wwwroot-ahcc/studies/AH ................... CURCUMIN http://www.goodhealth.nu/News_Articles/050111-curcumin-anti- ..................... FLAX SEED OIL http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/flaxseed-oil-000304.htm .......................... AVEMAR http://www.cancercompass.com/cancer-news/1,12705,00.htm ............. In clinical cancer trials, Avemar was shown to reduce the progression of disease in patients with head and neck cancers, colorectal cancer, and malignant melanoma of the skin. The quality of life of patients with breast cancer or lung cancer improved significantly (P < 0.05) after supportive treatment with Avemar: improvements in the global state of health and fatigue were observed in lung cancer patients, and improvements in physical and emotional function, the global state of health, fatigue, nausea, vomiting, insomnia, and constipation were observed in breast cancer patients. Clinical studies of the efficacy of Avemar in the treatment of other cancers are ongoing. However, observational data indicate that this wheat germ extract has favorable effects on ovarian cancer, gastric cancer, thyroid cancer, non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, and multiple myeloma. "The therapeutic spectrum of Avemar is much wider than it had been thought some years ago." Avemar is the new wonder-alternative cancer treatment / adjuvant therapy for boosting the immune system and fighting cancer. "Research at UCLA has demonstrated that Avemar reduces glucose flow into the cancer cells.  Cancer cells can evade NK [natural killer] cells by masking their outer membrane with a special substance that the NK cells recognize as 'normal.'  Avemar suppresses the release of this masking substance -- allowing NK cells to better target and kill the cancer cells."  Avemar's immune-stimulating ability appears to be so powerful that it can be useful in helping to restore even the most severely compromised immune systems. .................... CoQ10 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coenzyme_Q10 ....................... Salvestrol http://www.salvestrol.ca/index.asp ...................... Vitamin D http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamind.asp ..................... Wobenzym http://www.stopcancer.com/enzymes_wobenzym.htm ................... I know, there is a lot to research here but knowledge is power. There have been some quite miraculous turnarounds using only alternative protocols and I feel I am one of them so If you would like to have a copy of the Regimen (diet, etc.) that I have followed since my diagnosis in May 2004, please send me a private message and I'll gladly share it with you. Sheila

On 9/6/2008 haspain wrote:

Hi ray

Thanks for your Message. Lots of useful info. As for controlling my cancer and what I do - well up until a few weeks ago when I found I had new secondaries I had followed medical protocols (I am a Registered Nurse so my faith had always been with Docs!).

My cancer is called Sarcoma and is very difficult to treat. 12 years ago my chances of survival were virtually nil, however I survived nearly 8 years without any secondaries. I did not change my lifestyle or alter my diet until I came to Spain 5 years ago. I had been here less than a year when the secondaries appeared. The only difference to my life here was that I stopped taking enormous amounts of antacids because I no longer had a business and no longer had constant indigestion. I am almost 100% convinced that the antacids kept my body highly alkaline which inhibited tumour production - no proof just a gut (forgive the pun) feeling. When I was diagnosed with more seconadaries a few weeks ago I racked my brains for what was differrent in my life here to England and they are the only thing. So I am now taking huge amounts of them again - worth a try.

I am also eating a lot of fruits (raspberries my favourite) cereals and nuts and drinking fruit juice. I also drink powdered vitamin C about 3 sachets a day 1000mg. I have zeolite and B17 on the way which I will start taking. I refuse to deprive myself of little treats that I enjoy, I dont drink alcohol (don't like the taste) but I do like the ocasional piece of choclate. I swim in the summer months but am not a great one for exercising. Other than that I do not suppose I do anything that makes me any differrent from anyone else. As I have said I am convinced about the antacids being a contributory factor and suggest it may be of interest to research.

WoW! I have written an essay here, sorry if I have bored you. Keep in contact let me know how you are doing.

haspain 

Hi Ray,

Great news about your PSA hope the results next week are just as good. I cannot get Paw Paw here so have ordered something called papaya pro off the net. Still trying to face up to carrot juice but it makes me really feel sick. Keep in touch and let me know how you get on next week.

haspain

 

On 9/9/2008 haspain wrote:

Hi Ray,

Great news about your PSA hope the results next week are just as good. I cannot get Paw Paw here so have ordered something called papaya pro off the net. Still trying to face up to carrot juice but it makes me really feel sick. Keep in touch and let me know how you get on next week.

haspain

hi haspain that papaya pro  good stuff I know what you mean about the carrot juice took me a while to get use to it. Iv seen my doctor he hasn’t got my free PSA back yet but he did have my normal PSA it went up by one point from last time, and the last time it went up, I was having a lot of simple sugars in my food and drink he ask me what’s changed I told him about the pawpaw smoothies and I been having cups of coffee which I don’t normally have, he said do you put milk in the coffee when I got home I did some research I was surprise to learn that milk not good if you fighting prostrate cancer he told me he has a patients who has a  PSA of 3000 he the PSA will go up in summer and down in winter I told him about my Painfully cracked heals there gone now I have had crack heals for years It because I’m  having the Pawpaw it  help heal them Iv stopped the coffee and having milk and I’m back on the green tea I’m waiting for another month and get some more Zeolite it cost me about $500,00 AU for a three month cause  he ask me how I felt I said I felt grate I remember last year when I was in so much pain the the so called pain medication stoped working two week after starting this the pain stoped then I had to try to get off the meds that was hard will take care Ray    

 

On 8/31/2008 haspain wrote:

Hi I am new to this site and have spent a couple of nights trying to find out 'The facts' about Zeloite. Having battled cancer for 12 years I am on my third lot of secondaries. This time surgery is not an option as I have multiple disparate tumours - here we go again with radio and chemo. As a qualified nurse of 25 years my faith has always been with the 'Docs', but this time we all agree my treatment is purely palliative. So when you are desperate you try anything. I have trawled the internet for info on zeolite and other products and I am totally confused. Every company seems to more interested in trying to discredit other companies than anything else. So if I do choose to purchase which one do I buy from? I also need someone I can contact to give me real solid advice (In the U.K.) on what supplements etc to take so if anyone out there knows a good, honest and reliable source of information I would be grateful.

I know there are many negative posts regarding supplements and Zeolite in particular, but I do feel that when the grim reaper is looking over your shoulder anything is worth a shot.

Thanks in anticipation

 

Hello there, perhaps I can help you with your Zeolite enquirey, if you check out www.naturalelements.com.au you will se I knocked out my cancer then had many friends and others contact me for info on how to help them.I tried the Multi level products but then got onto Zeo8 and with help from some clever Doctors who couldn't use the product themselves but understood how it worked I had rather quick success as you will see by my photos on this site.I can help you with supply of Zeo8 and can give you pointers on what else to do with no charge for info just for the Zeo8 which is much stronger than the MLM product and a third the cost with no contracts.

Regards, Roger.