Nutrition-green tea, sugar

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RE: Nutrition-green tea, sugar

by conqueror__survivor on Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:00 AM

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Green tea is good for you but not premade with sugar in it.  I am under a nutritionist and because of ovarian cancer do not do soy products, nor dairy, nor meat,  I stay away from sugar as much as i can.  Find a green tea that is in a tea bag make your own tea and if you must sweeten it a bit try using Agave Nectar.  That is what is recommended to me.  good luck

RE: Nutrition-green tea, sugar

by Billusa on Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:00 AM

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I got that email too a while back -- stupid stuff!

As to the post, I would avoid that green tea and make your own. However, do not be worried that you have done something wrong, just do something better going forward and make your own. Stevia is a great sweetener available at Whole Foods and at health food stores.

Evryone with cancer will have quality of life issues. Someone's anecdotal writings of what they read and what they did should no more rule your life than the statistics of survival for your cancer-from do. You are you.  That being said, avoiding REFINED sugars is advisable for the cancer-feeding reasons you have read about.  But, you are not going to avoid sugars in a modern diet, even a modified modern diet.

Avoid high fructose corn syrup -- it's in lots of foods, inc. granola etc. marketed by General Mills, etc. Read labels. Many markets now make baked goods with honey. I eat frozen custard which has cane sugar, but it also has eggs and calories that are good my my weight maintenance (which is MORE important) as well as a treat! ( I am a stage IV pan. can. liver mets 6 month survivor this week still working and at 98% target weight, NO chemo side effects!).

I highly recommend this book:vhttp://www.amazon.com/Cancer-Essential-Things-Revised-Update

It speaks to what you ask plus much more.  If you have access to a oncology nutritionist via your clinic, seek them out. Most all have them. Mine was invaluable. A piece of chocolate and some sugar in your cappucino on the weekend and a vanilla milkshake are not going to kill you.  If they did, then you would not bereading what I just wrote.

Best of luck to you.

 

RE: Nutrition-green tea, sugar

by mam1563 on Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 11/20/2008 Billusa wrote:

I got that email too a while back -- stupid stuff!

As to the post, I would avoid that green tea and make your own. However, do not be worried that you have done something wrong, just do something better going forward and make your own. Stevia is a great sweetener available at Whole Foods and at health food stores.

Evryone with cancer will have quality of life issues. Someone's anecdotal writings of what they read and what they did should no more rule your life than the statistics of survival for your cancer-from do. You are you.  That being said, avoiding REFINED sugars is advisable for the cancer-feeding reasons you have read about.  But, you are not going to avoid sugars in a modern diet, even a modified modern diet.

Avoid high fructose corn syrup -- it's in lots of foods, inc. granola etc. marketed by General Mills, etc. Read labels. Many markets now make baked goods with honey. I eat frozen custard which has cane sugar, but it also has eggs and calories that are good my my weight maintenance (which is MORE important) as well as a treat! ( I am a stage IV pan. can. liver mets 6 month survivor this week still working and at 98% target weight, NO chemo side effects!).

I highly recommend this book:vhttp://www.amazon.com/Cancer-Essential-Things-Revised-Update

It speaks to what you ask plus much more.  If you have access to a oncology nutritionist via your clinic, seek them out. Most all have them. Mine was invaluable. A piece of chocolate and some sugar in your cappucino on the weekend and a vanilla milkshake are not going to kill you.  If they did, then you would not bereading what I just wrote.

Best of luck to you.

 


 

Sounds like you have retained a great sense of humor--something that will serve you well in your travels through Cancerland.  Continue to laugh, smile, chuckle, chortle, snort, whatever.  It helps!

 

Nadine

RE: Nutrition-green tea, sugar

by danbFla on Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:00 AM

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With regard to the question on a Ketosis diet my wife was on that diet for a while,  its very much a high protien diet, anything goes as long as its meat.   I would not think that would be appropriate to slow cancer but what do I know?

RE: Nutrition-green tea, sugar

by Wolfster on Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:00 AM

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There is a lot of good information in these posts, and enough contradiction to illustrate how confusing it all can be.  I've done a lot of study since my own diagnosis of ovarian cancer 2 years ago, and for the most part agree with the first reply posted.  I'd like to add that there is a known link between gluten intolerance (Celiac disease) and some cancers, and I personally feel patients with particular cancers - and I include ovarian cancer in that list - should be checked using a blood test and if that comes up negative, an endoscopy.

Also, people are so different that while a high-protein diet may be just right for one person, it may leave another feeling absolutely awful and in ill health.  Everyone is different and it's important to assess your own bodily needs and metabolism.  I agree that refined sugar is an enemy, and high-fructose corn syrup is its even-more-evil twin.  Medical records talk of sugar addiction since it has been widely available, a good 200 years ago, and I don't trust anything that can get you hooked by its inherent nature.  Even setting aside the argument of whether cancer feeds on it, the room refined sugar takes in your body could be filled instead with actual nutrients that could be doing you some good.

One thing to take into account though, is that diet is not the only thing that can affect cancer.  Someone who eats a healthy diet can be exposed to a dizzying array of problems that can impact the immune system and the body in harmful ways.  I hope you've already looked into that side of it, but in case you haven't, some things beside diet to consider:

Are you sleeping enough, not too much, and is that good-quality sleep?

How much stress do you have daily, and can you find ways to reduce it?

Are you getting the right amount of exercise? Not too little but not too much?

Do you do things that studies are showing maybe harmful or that the jury is still out on like: using an electric blanket; microwaving to much of your food, esp in plastic; drinking hot beverages out of plastic (such as a commuter mug); using a cell-phone too much, and not using a hands-free headset with it (some studies are linking that in particular to tumors of the head and face, particularly salivary glands); living in a city or environment that is polluted by particulates, pesticides and fertilizer dust, etc.

Do you avoid the sun totally (bad idea) and have your vitamin D levels been tested?

Do you use dark hair color? Do you use body products, including soap and shampoo, and/or makeup with carcinogenic ingredients? Body product companies VERY often take advantage of loopholes in the law that allow them to use chemicals that are untested and potentially quite dangerous, and that allow them to label their products as natural or organic when they are most certainly anything BUT.

And there are plenty of other things I have not even gotten into here, that could have an effect.  Each individual has to take stock of their own lifestyle and decide where the danger levels are, and what they can and what they are willing to change to make it healthier all around.

RE: Nutrition-green tea, sugar

by Cindy_D_4 on Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 11/20/2008 mam1563 wrote:

  There is a REALLY STUPID AND FALSE  e-mail that has resurfaced recently claiming researchers at Johns Hopkins have uncovered special eating techniques and foods you must completely avoid (i.e. sugar as it feeds cancer cells (NOT TRUE)), etc.  Check out snopes.com and search for Johns Hopkins.  It will clarify what I am trying to say, that is, the info sent by e-mail is completely false.  As a survivor who is currently riding a high because I am still in remission felt like I got kicked in the gut when a well-meaning friend sent the e-mail to me!

  Take heart and eat what seems right to you and strive to make your plate colorful!

Nadine

 

 


I looked up the snopes report on the Johns Hopkins article. If it is the same one I read, it does not say that the information is false. It says that the origin is not Johns Hopkins. The information contained in the e-mail is very similar to the advice I am getting from a professional nutritionist (Phd) specializing in cancer and the nutritionists and naturopaths at my cancer center. I also have read several books that confirm much of the info - Anti-Cancer by Schrieber and Fighting Cancer with Nutrition by Quillan. I believe that what we eat does matter and that sugar is not good for our cancer. I'm glad that you are in remission and support your right to eat however you choose but to call the info "stupid and false" is misleading may be going too far. If it is different e-mail circulating than the one I read, then I apologize.

 

RE: Nutrition-green tea, sugar

by John_D27 on Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:00 AM

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RE: Nutrition-green tea, sugar

by WHOLENESS on Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:00 AM

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hi

stay away from suger and drink organic green tea- not liptons- clearspring japanese is best.

flax seed oil very good.

 read about joanna budwig extensive reasearch. epert. do a google on her.

keep well and strong and dont stop asking and fidning the right answers when you get conflicting advice.

stay healed-

rose

RE: Nutrition-green tea, sugar

by Bonniee on Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:00 AM

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This is so over-whelming to me. Could you give a sample menu for breakfast, lunch, dinner and snacks? I was recently diagnosed and there is so much information about diet "out there" I don't want to lose any more weight before chemo. I am afriad to eat anything! Thank you for your kind recommendations.

RE: Nutrition-green tea, sugar

by trehouse60 on Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:00 AM

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Hi Bonniee,

Actually, there is LOT that you CAN eat, so rather than give you sample menus, I'll just tell you good food choices.

Fruit:  Any kind of berry is great, and you should eat berries as much as you can - just avoid added sugar (fructose or honey is ok.)  Tart cherries (black cherries) or tart cherry extract are excellent choices. Any Citrus fruit - except grapefruit and bananas (unless you need them for the potassium - then one banana a day is ok.)  Especially papaya and pineapple - either eat the raw fruit or get extracts (papaya tablets and bromelaine extract.) Lemons and limes are great. Apples - the more sour apples are better.  No more than 1 large or 2 small to medium apples/day, and eat both the skin and the seeds.  Cantelope provides needed vitamins plus vitamin B-17.  Seeded Grapes - concord are best, but red or black will do - eat the skins and the seeds (try to get organic grapes, if not - wash well with warm soapy water and rinse, rinse, rinse.)  If you can't get seeded grapes, use Welch's 100% concord frozen grape juice concentrate, and make it with steam-distilled or reverse osmosis filtered water. (Any kind of water with chlorine in it is a no-no for drinking and cooking.) Black currants are a great choice.

DO NOT eat pomegranate or drink pomegranate juice. 

Juices:  Welch's concord as mentioned above.  Mangosteen, noni, goji.  NO orange juice unless unsweetened and then only a little bit. DO drink Lemonade from unsweetened 100% pure lemon frozen concentrate or actual squeezed lemons - mix with pure water.

Apple cider vinegar:  get an organic brand, use as much as you can tolerate as often as you can tolerate, on salads, vegetables, in cooking.  If you can tolerate it, drink a tsp in an 8 oz glass water/day.  Apple cider vinegar extract tablets are ok, too.

Vegetables:  cauliflower, broccoli, brussel sprouts, kale, spinach, endive, radishes, beets (pickled beets are ok, but not Harvard beets - too much sugar added.)  Carrots in moderation ( no more than 1 medium carrot/day).  Celery in moderation.  Lettuces and greens.  Asparagus. Cabbage. Bok choy and chinese cabbage.  Parsnips (but not turnips.) Peppers - red, orange or yellow are best as green peppers can cause a lot of heartburn, especially with chemo.

AVOID peas and corn and sugar snap peas . Lima beans , snow peas, are ok but in small amounts infrequently.   NO SPROUTS.

Tomatoes, tomatoes, tomatoes - as many as you can eat, in whatever form you can eat. If you can't get tomatoes, get a lycopene supplement and follow the label directions.

Rhubarb is an excellent choice - as little sweetener as possible to make it palatable. 

Sweetener: organic crystallized fructose - available at health food stores, some grocery stores in the organic/health food aisle, and online.  Can be used for cooking and on cereal, in tea, etc.  Use as little as possible. The herb stevia is an excellent choice.  You can also use very small amounts of pure honey and pure maple syrup. 

AVOID:  nutrasweet, aspartame, phenylalanine, any kind of artificial sweetener. 

Dairy:  as little dairy as possible.  For milk, raw goats milk is the best choice.  Raw cow's milk or sheep's milk is ok.  If you can't get raw, you need to try to find organic milk from grass fed cows that are not given any hormones. 100% organic butter rather than any kind of margarine. Any kind of cheese should be organic - hard cheeses are a better choice than soft (except cottage cheese, which I will address later.)  Limit intake of cheese.  Ice cream IS NOT a good choice, although a little bit now and then is ok.   YOGURT should be limited, and should be unsweetened - no more than once or twice a week, unless you want to use it with flax seed instead of cottage cheese (see below.)

Eggs:  organic, farm fresh from range fed chickens. No need to limit intake, but should be soft-cooked  - just enough to be done, as too much heat destroys the sulfur, protein and other nutrients in the egg.Try to eat at least one egg a day.

AVOID HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP.  AVOID ALL FORMS OF SODA POP.  (Exception:  ginger ale or lemon-lime soda if needed for nausea or heartburn.)

Nuts and seeds:  almonds, walnuts, macadamia nuts are ok. Apricot kernels are an excellent source of vitamin b-17, if you can tolerate eating 5 - 6 a day (if not, don't worry about it.)   Roasted pumpkin seeds are a great source of omega fatty acids and protein - see my blog.  Squash seeds can be roasted the same way.

http://motherearthtreasurechest.blogspot.com/2008/09/roasted

Avoid sunflower seeds, peanuts and brazil nuts.  NO peanutbutter.

 Oils:  100% pure organic virgin expeller-pressed coconut oil from raw coconuts (not dried chopra.)  Expensive, but absolutely the very best choice of oils - melts at a much lower temp, so you won't need to use as much.  Can be used for cooking, salads - even on your skin - anything that you would use any other kind of oil.  Next best choice is 100% pure organic extra virgin olive oil.

Avoid:  safflower oil, corn oil, any kind of vegetable oil that has hydrogenated or partially-hydrogenated fats (also known as trans fats.)

Linseed oil = flax oil - I do not advise using it.

Meats:  the less, the better, although if you go totally meatless, you do need to supplement with a good vitamin b-12 (see my blog, "buzzing the B's - vitamin b-12).  I totally avoid fish and sea food - the earth's water supply is drastically contaminated, and it gets into the fish.  Wild Alaska salmon, or any fish/sea food that comes from far northern very deep cold waters would be the best choice if you want to do fish.  I recommend fish no more than once a week. If you want to supplement with fish oil, I recommend krill oil - very expensive, but really the only way to ensure that you are getting uncontaminated fish oil.

Chicken - best if range fed that isn't given any hormones.   Beef - needs to be grass fed without hormones.  Pork - not a good choice.  Lamb/mutton - infrequent. The average person in industrialized nations eats WAAAAAAY too much meat - I recommend maximum intake of 3 - 4 ounces of meat 3 - 4 times/week.   Turkey needs to be range fed without hormones.

Be very careful with organ meats - no more than once a month. 

Beans/legumes (except peas):  as much as you can stand to eat.  Dried organic beans/legumes  are the best choice - soak in pure water before cooking (soak at least 8 hours to break down the components that cause bloating/gas.)  This is a major source of protein and roughage, and contains MANY cancer fighters.  Beans and legumes cooked with onions and garlic add an extra boost. Barley is an excellent choice to add to soups, stews, chili, etc.

Grains: Organic brown rice is best, otherwise long-grain rice.  (White rice is a poor choice.) Whole grains:  wheat, oats, spelt, etc - I have an article on my blog listing good choices.  Avoid, white flour and processed pastas - whole wheat or spinach pasta is ok.  Cous-cous is ok. Buckwheat pancakes is an excellent choice - go ahead and use butter and maple syrup on them!  Barley is an excellent choice to add to soups, stews, chili, etc.

Chocolate:   dark chocolate that is at least 70% cacao is an excellent choice.  NOT fattening, but offers a lot of cancer-fighting nutrients. 

ALCOHOL:  avoid ALL alcohol except red wine.  3 - 4 ounces of red to dark red table wine/day is ok - will help fight the cancer - the sugar in the wine carries the phytochemicals to the cancer cells, so is ok. Do not use a beverage wine for this - way too sweet.  I use Taylor Lake Country Red Table Wine -  that is the very least tannin content and sweetness you want.  Anything that's darker or dryer would also be ok.

Juicing/smoothies:  - a great way to get nutrition fast.   add a 1/2 tsp organic powdered brewer's yeast, and powdered lecithin for nutrition. You may need to add just a little fructose or honey with these to make it palatable, and it's good to add some crushed ice.  Barley grass powder or wheat grass powder are also very powerful additives. If you don't juice or make smoothies, I suggest you supplement with barley grass or wheat grass tablets.  Just remember to take with food.

SOY:  I would avoid completely.

FLAX:  breakfast only - this is my routine:

I make sure to eat no later than 1 hour before going to bed. I do not eat or drink anything other than water  for another 8 - 10 hours.  First thing when I get up - a handful of grapes with seeds (concord, red or black grapes.)  If I can't get grapes, I use 6 - 8 ounces of Welch's 100% pure concord grape concentrate - non-pasteurized, mixed with steam-distilled water.  THen I eat about 1/2 cup small curd cottage cheese (organic when I can get it) with no more than 1 tsp ground flax seed. I add salt and pepper for taste, and I sometimes throw in  no more than 1/4 cup roasted pumpkin seeds or a small handful of dried black currants. Cranberries would work just as well.  I drink 10 ounces of brewed green and black tea - I just use 1 green tea bag and 1 black tea bag, and I steep it pretty strong, adding fructose to taste. . (you could do one or the other if you don't like them combined.)

COOKING tips:  as much as you can, use onions (fresh, frozen, or powdered or minced), garlic (fresh or powdered - but not garlic salt), crushed red pepper, turmeric, and cumin. If you don't like cooking with onions or garlic, or if you're getting chemo and can't handle the spice food, I recommend you take an odorless garlic supplement.

Fresh, raw, organic fruits and veggies are the very best choice - but not always possible.  Flash frozen is the next best choice - canneries do a pretty thorough job of washing fruits and veggies before freezing them, and with todays technology, everything you get in the freezer section is now being flash frozen, except ice cream and dairy products.   Canned (unless home canned in glass jars) - should be the very last choice.  Exception is tomatoes - but try to buy brands that do not have the plastic coating inside the can, as this is broken down by the acids in the tomatoes. 

If there is anything specific that I haven't mentioned, and you want to know if it's ok to eat, just send me a message.  I'm not sure where you live, so don't know what regional foods you might choose.   I have a few recipes on my blog - they are all ok for anyone with cancer to use. Take a look at my series on the B-vitamins "The Buzz on the B's" - there are like 8 or 9 articles (I don't have my B-17 article published yet, and that one may take a while - have hit a few road blocks!)  Unless I have specifically mentioned to avoid something above, ALL of the foods that I list in the vitamin B articles are ok to eat.  Look at the articles on ancient seeds and grains, and on functional foods. 

Take a look at the Lemon Volcano Drink (enter that in the search box - it will pull up several articles - one has a recipe.)  That is an excellent detoxifier, if you can stand to do it with the cayenne pepper.  It provides the cancer fighting benefits of citric acid , capcaisin in the pepper, and maple syrup.

In fact, I recommend that you read through the whole blog, as you get time.  I've scattered cancer fighting information, including a lot about foods, throughout just about everything I've written on the blog.  There also is other advise, such as incorporating humor and laughter, exercise, detoxification, etc.

I cannot emphasize enough that you need to be drinking plenty of fresh pure water. Minimum 64 ounces/day, as much as 80 - 100 ounces /day if you can tolerate it.  (If you weigh less than 125lbs - not more than 72 ounces/day.) Steam-distilled or filtered by reverse osmosis are best. I purchased a home steam-distiller when I found out I had metastasis - one of the very best investments I've ever made.  My partner and I know use steam-distilled water exclusively for all our drinking and cooking needs.  There is a link for A-1 Distillers in my blog.  I purchased the 1 gallon, metal-topped distiller - came to just under $120 including S&H, and the service is great:

http://motherearthtreasurechest.blogspot.com/2008/09/my-pers

Let me know if you have more questions.  You're welcome to use the link on my blog to send me email - just identify yourself as Bonniee from Cancer Compass in the subject line the first time you write.

Sincerely,

Tre

 

 

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