Nutrition-green tea, sugar

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RE: Nutrition-green tea, sugar

by curly66 on Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:00 AM

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On 11/20/2008 LUVLIFE wrote:

I am a 14 year survivor of matasticized ovarian cancer with no recurrences.  I basically eat and drink whatever I want within reason.  Go figure....

Hello LuvLife....just read your message here and want to ask you where your cancer had matasticized to 14yrs ago and what all did you take and for how long of treatments before you were certainly blessed with life once again.  5yrs down the road and three remissions I am still dealing with ovarian cancer but have gotten thru everything quite well but need more answers and if another surgery is needed to get at those microscopic cells if that's possible.   Waiting to hear from you.   Curly66

 

RE: Nutrition-green tea, sugar

by carolyn97222 on Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:00 AM

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On 11/28/2008 trehouse60 wrote:

Hi Bonniee,

Actually, there is LOT that you CAN eat, so rather than give you sample menus, I'll just tell you good food choices.

Fruit:  Any kind of berry is great, and you should eat berries as much as you can - just avoid added sugar (fructose or honey is ok.)  Tart cherries (black cherries) or tart cherry extract are excellent choices. Any Citrus fruit - except grapefruit and bananas (unless you need them for the potassium - then one banana a day is ok.)  Especially papaya and pineapple - either eat the raw fruit or get extracts (papaya tablets and bromelaine extract.) Lemons and limes are great. Apples - the more sour apples are better.  No more than 1 large or 2 small to medium apples/day, and eat both the skin and the seeds.  Cantelope provides needed vitamins plus vitamin B-17.  Seeded Grapes - concord are best, but red or black will do - eat the skins and the seeds (try to get organic grapes, if not - wash well with warm soapy water and rinse, rinse, rinse.)  If you can't get seeded grapes, use Welch's 100% concord frozen grape juice concentrate, and make it with steam-distilled or reverse osmosis filtered water. (Any kind of water with chlorine in it is a no-no for drinking and cooking.) Black currants are a great choice.

DO NOT eat pomegranate or drink pomegranate juice. 

Juices:  Welch's concord as mentioned above.  Mangosteen, noni, goji.  NO orange juice unless unsweetened and then only a little bit. DO drink Lemonade from unsweetened 100% pure lemon frozen concentrate or actual squeezed lemons - mix with pure water.

Apple cider vinegar:  get an organic brand, use as much as you can tolerate as often as you can tolerate, on salads, vegetables, in cooking.  If you can tolerate it, drink a tsp in an 8 oz glass water/day.  Apple cider vinegar extract tablets are ok, too.

Vegetables:  cauliflower, broccoli, brussel sprouts, kale, spinach, endive, radishes, beets (pickled beets are ok, but not Harvard beets - too much sugar added.)  Carrots in moderation ( no more than 1 medium carrot/day).  Celery in moderation.  Lettuces and greens.  Asparagus. Cabbage. Bok choy and chinese cabbage.  Parsnips (but not turnips.) Peppers - red, orange or yellow are best as green peppers can cause a lot of heartburn, especially with chemo.

AVOID peas and corn and sugar snap peas . Lima beans , snow peas, are ok but in small amounts infrequently.   NO SPROUTS.

Tomatoes, tomatoes, tomatoes - as many as you can eat, in whatever form you can eat. If you can't get tomatoes, get a lycopene supplement and follow the label directions.

Rhubarb is an excellent choice - as little sweetener as possible to make it palatable. 

Sweetener: organic crystallized fructose - available at health food stores, some grocery stores in the organic/health food aisle, and online.  Can be used for cooking and on cereal, in tea, etc.  Use as little as possible. The herb stevia is an excellent choice.  You can also use very small amounts of pure honey and pure maple syrup. 

AVOID:  nutrasweet, aspartame, phenylalanine, any kind of artificial sweetener. 

Dairy:  as little dairy as possible.  For milk, raw goats milk is the best choice.  Raw cow's milk or sheep's milk is ok.  If you can't get raw, you need to try to find organic milk from grass fed cows that are not given any hormones. 100% organic butter rather than any kind of margarine. Any kind of cheese should be organic - hard cheeses are a better choice than soft (except cottage cheese, which I will address later.)  Limit intake of cheese.  Ice cream IS NOT a good choice, although a little bit now and then is ok.   YOGURT should be limited, and should be unsweetened - no more than once or twice a week, unless you want to use it with flax seed instead of cottage cheese (see below.)

Eggs:  organic, farm fresh from range fed chickens. No need to limit intake, but should be soft-cooked  - just enough to be done, as too much heat destroys the sulfur, protein and other nutrients in the egg.Try to eat at least one egg a day.

AVOID HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP.  AVOID ALL FORMS OF SODA POP.  (Exception:  ginger ale or lemon-lime soda if needed for nausea or heartburn.)

Nuts and seeds:  almonds, walnuts, macadamia nuts are ok. Apricot kernels are an excellent source of vitamin b-17, if you can tolerate eating 5 - 6 a day (if not, don't worry about it.)   Roasted pumpkin seeds are a great source of omega fatty acids and protein - see my blog.  Squash seeds can be roasted the same way.

http://motherearthtreasurechest.blogspot.com/2008/09/roasted

Avoid sunflower seeds, peanuts and brazil nuts.  NO peanutbutter.

 Oils:  100% pure organic virgin expeller-pressed coconut oil from raw coconuts (not dried chopra.)  Expensive, but absolutely the very best choice of oils - melts at a much lower temp, so you won't need to use as much.  Can be used for cooking, salads - even on your skin - anything that you would use any other kind of oil.  Next best choice is 100% pure organic extra virgin olive oil.

Avoid:  safflower oil, corn oil, any kind of vegetable oil that has hydrogenated or partially-hydrogenated fats (also known as trans fats.)

Linseed oil = flax oil - I do not advise using it.

Meats:  the less, the better, although if you go totally meatless, you do need to supplement with a good vitamin b-12 (see my blog, "buzzing the B's - vitamin b-12).  I totally avoid fish and sea food - the earth's water supply is drastically contaminated, and it gets into the fish.  Wild Alaska salmon, or any fish/sea food that comes from far northern very deep cold waters would be the best choice if you want to do fish.  I recommend fish no more than once a week. If you want to supplement with fish oil, I recommend krill oil - very expensive, but really the only way to ensure that you are getting uncontaminated fish oil.

Chicken - best if range fed that isn't given any hormones.   Beef - needs to be grass fed without hormones.  Pork - not a good choice.  Lamb/mutton - infrequent. The average person in industrialized nations eats WAAAAAAY too much meat - I recommend maximum intake of 3 - 4 ounces of meat 3 - 4 times/week.   Turkey needs to be range fed without hormones.

Be very careful with organ meats - no more than once a month. 

Beans/legumes (except peas):  as much as you can stand to eat.  Dried organic beans/legumes  are the best choice - soak in pure water before cooking (soak at least 8 hours to break down the components that cause bloating/gas.)  This is a major source of protein and roughage, and contains MANY cancer fighters.  Beans and legumes cooked with onions and garlic add an extra boost. Barley is an excellent choice to add to soups, stews, chili, etc.

Grains: Organic brown rice is best, otherwise long-grain rice.  (White rice is a poor choice.) Whole grains:  wheat, oats, spelt, etc - I have an article on my blog listing good choices.  Avoid, white flour and processed pastas - whole wheat or spinach pasta is ok.  Cous-cous is ok. Buckwheat pancakes is an excellent choice - go ahead and use butter and maple syrup on them!  Barley is an excellent choice to add to soups, stews, chili, etc.

Chocolate:   dark chocolate that is at least 70% cacao is an excellent choice.  NOT fattening, but offers a lot of cancer-fighting nutrients. 

ALCOHOL:  avoid ALL alcohol except red wine.  3 - 4 ounces of red to dark red table wine/day is ok - will help fight the cancer - the sugar in the wine carries the phytochemicals to the cancer cells, so is ok. Do not use a beverage wine for this - way too sweet.  I use Taylor Lake Country Red Table Wine -  that is the very least tannin content and sweetness you want.  Anything that's darker or dryer would also be ok.

Juicing/smoothies:  - a great way to get nutrition fast.   add a 1/2 tsp organic powdered brewer's yeast, and powdered lecithin for nutrition. You may need to add just a little fructose or honey with these to make it palatable, and it's good to add some crushed ice.  Barley grass powder or wheat grass powder are also very powerful additives. If you don't juice or make smoothies, I suggest you supplement with barley grass or wheat grass tablets.  Just remember to take with food.

SOY:  I would avoid completely.

FLAX:  breakfast only - this is my routine:

I make sure to eat no later than 1 hour before going to bed. I do not eat or drink anything other than water  for another 8 - 10 hours.  First thing when I get up - a handful of grapes with seeds (concord, red or black grapes.)  If I can't get grapes, I use 6 - 8 ounces of Welch's 100% pure concord grape concentrate - non-pasteurized, mixed with steam-distilled water.  THen I eat about 1/2 cup small curd cottage cheese (organic when I can get it) with no more than 1 tsp ground flax seed. I add salt and pepper for taste, and I sometimes throw in  no more than 1/4 cup roasted pumpkin seeds or a small handful of dried black currants. Cranberries would work just as well.  I drink 10 ounces of brewed green and black tea - I just use 1 green tea bag and 1 black tea bag, and I steep it pretty strong, adding fructose to taste. . (you could do one or the other if you don't like them combined.)

COOKING tips:  as much as you can, use onions (fresh, frozen, or powdered or minced), garlic (fresh or powdered - but not garlic salt), crushed red pepper, turmeric, and cumin. If you don't like cooking with onions or garlic, or if you're getting chemo and can't handle the spice food, I recommend you take an odorless garlic supplement.

Fresh, raw, organic fruits and veggies are the very best choice - but not always possible.  Flash frozen is the next best choice - canneries do a pretty thorough job of washing fruits and veggies before freezing them, and with todays technology, everything you get in the freezer section is now being flash frozen, except ice cream and dairy products.   Canned (unless home canned in glass jars) - should be the very last choice.  Exception is tomatoes - but try to buy brands that do not have the plastic coating inside the can, as this is broken down by the acids in the tomatoes. 

If there is anything specific that I haven't mentioned, and you want to know if it's ok to eat, just send me a message.  I'm not sure where you live, so don't know what regional foods you might choose.   I have a few recipes on my blog - they are all ok for anyone with cancer to use. Take a look at my series on the B-vitamins "The Buzz on the B's" - there are like 8 or 9 articles (I don't have my B-17 article published yet, and that one may take a while - have hit a few road blocks!)  Unless I have specifically mentioned to avoid something above, ALL of the foods that I list in the vitamin B articles are ok to eat.  Look at the articles on ancient seeds and grains, and on functional foods. 

Take a look at the Lemon Volcano Drink (enter that in the search box - it will pull up several articles - one has a recipe.)  That is an excellent detoxifier, if you can stand to do it with the cayenne pepper.  It provides the cancer fighting benefits of citric acid , capcaisin in the pepper, and maple syrup.

In fact, I recommend that you read through the whole blog, as you get time.  I've scattered cancer fighting information, including a lot about foods, throughout just about everything I've written on the blog.  There also is other advise, such as incorporating humor and laughter, exercise, detoxification, etc.

I cannot emphasize enough that you need to be drinking plenty of fresh pure water. Minimum 64 ounces/day, as much as 80 - 100 ounces /day if you can tolerate it.  (If you weigh less than 125lbs - not more than 72 ounces/day.) Steam-distilled or filtered by reverse osmosis are best. I purchased a home steam-distiller when I found out I had metastasis - one of the very best investments I've ever made.  My partner and I know use steam-distilled water exclusively for all our drinking and cooking needs.  There is a link for A-1 Distillers in my blog.  I purchased the 1 gallon, metal-topped distiller - came to just under $120 including S&H, and the service is great:

http://motherearthtreasurechest.blogspot.com/2008/09/my-pers

Let me know if you have more questions.  You're welcome to use the link on my blog to send me email - just identify yourself as Bonniee from Cancer Compass in the subject line the first time you write.

Sincerely,

Tre

 

 


 

1.  Why are sprouts not allowed?  Does this include broccoli sprouts?

2.   My dr. (at one of the top 100 hospitals in the US) told me NOT to use any soy products, no grapefruit, NO green tea, NO flax - because the tumors were estrogen/progesterone positive.

3.  I typed Lemon Volcano Drink into the search bar.  It gave me 3 options for that, and none of them had the recipe.  Can you give it to me?

Thanx,

Carolyn

 

RE: Nutrition-green tea, sugar

by trehouse60 on Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:00 AM

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Hi Carolyn,

Hope you are doing well. Some answers for your questions:

1.  Why are sprouts not allowed?  Does this include broccoli sprouts?

Brussels sprouts are actually an excellent choice for a cancer-fighting diet.  Very high in anti-oxidants, B vitamins and vitamin C,  plus sulforaphane, which is another phytochemical that helps inhibit cancer cell processes.

The sprouts that one should avoid are salad sprouts - like alfalfa and bean sprouts.  This type sprouts are very easily contaminated with bacteria and fungi - not worth the risk of introducing infection into and already compromised immune system.  (I've seen some opinions that if a person is raising their own sprouts, knows the conditions under which they are grown and can guarantee that they are absolutely fresh, then it's ok to eat them, but just too many reports of inadvertant contamination even among the most careful of growers - just doesn't seem worth the risk to me when equal nutritional value can be gotten from safer foods.)

2.
  My dr. (at one of the top 100 hospitals in the US) told me NOT to use
any soy products, no grapefruit, NO green tea, NO flax - because the
tumors were estrogen/progesterone positive.

There's a lot of varying opinions about soy, but I personally agree with not using soy at all.  There are several different kinds of isoflavones in soy that have been researched in cancer treatment - genistein, and something else (I can't think of the other one right off the top of my head.) There's still a big controversy between these researchers as to which of these compounds might be safe in treating estrogen/progesterone positive cancers, and which might be harmful - so far as I'm concerned, I steer clear of soy. (With the exception of the very small amount of soy sauce I might get when I eat at my favorite chinese restaurant, at most several times a month!)

As for grapefruit - that is also on my no-no list  for treatment of any kind of cancer.  Citrus fruits are great for fighting cancer, but grapefruit is best left alone. The reasoning goes a lot deeper than phytoestrogens - I have those notes somewhere among 6 - 8 months worth of other stuff!!

As for flax and green tea, I think that's something that people really have to make their own choices about.  I definitely agree that flax seed oil in the diet is NOT a good choice for hormone positive cancers - the phytoestrogens in the oil are just WAY too concentrated to make it worth the risk of taking it, at least for me.  However, I've read some pretty convincing debate that the much lesser concentration of phytoestrogens in very small amounts of ground flax seed ( a tsp or two a day at most)  is more likely to act as an estrogen blocker rather than estrogen replacement, thus actually working to deprive cancer cells of estrogen, while also utilizing the cancer-killing properties of the lignans in the flax seed.  (I hope that has made sense to you - I got interrupted while I was typing this, kind of lost my train of thought for a few minutes!!)

The same thing may be true of green tea - indeed of black tea, also. Tea does contain some phytoestrogens - the question is do the benefits of the antioxidants, OPC's and other cancer-fighting phytochemicals they contain outweight the risks of the phytoestrogens they contain?  When I've looked at charts detailing foods and phytoestrogens, how much they contain - whether they are strong or weak phytoestrogens, I didn't consider tea to be that high up on the list, so I chose to use tea quite a lot in my regimen. Now for me there are other health benefits that I considered - tea is very detoxifying, and it offers a lot of benefits for arthritis and fibromyalgia and asthma  - so I considered the known benefits for me to outweigh the potential risk. And that's a choice that everybody has basically got to make for themselves, as concerns many foods, supplement and herb choices.

(One might note that MANY foods, including most of the cruciferous vegetables- broccoli, asparagus, etc, actually contain quite a bit of phytoestrogens and other phytosterols. It's believed that those kinds of foods act as estrogen blockers because they contain weak phytoestrogens, but that may also depend upon what phase of reproductive timing a woman is in - premenopausal womens' bodies handle exogenous estrogen one way, whereas postmenopausal womens' bodies seem to handle it a different way. Butthe fact is that we can't cut out EVERYTHING in our diet/self-care that might provide estrogen to our bodies.   I think what we can do is try to determine for ourselves which foods, etc, contain the highest amounts of phytoestrogen, and make our own choices from there, having faith that in the broader range of considerations we are doing the right thing.  And we can also do some things like take an aspirin a day - 325 mg, any generic or name brand will do - to inhibit prostaglandin production that helps our bodies make estrogen. Take grape seed extract - it inhibits aromatase production. Things like that...)

3.  I typed Lemon
Volcano Drink into the search bar.  It gave me 3 options for that, and
none of them had the recipe.  Can you give it to me?

Gladly, and bon appetit!

 LEMON VOLCANO DRINK: 1 qt unsweetened lemonade (use one lemon and pure fresh water, or organic unpasteurized frozen lemonade concentrate and pure fresh water); 1 - 2 TBSP 100% pure maple syrup; a large pinch organic cayenne pepper (more if you can stand it!); shake vigorously!

- drink daily as a tonic for cancer prevention; adjunct cancer treatment; to boost the immune, circulatory and nervous systems; detoxification; and to clean out your sinuses!

(You might want to read my blog article that gives the history of this drink for me - I think it's kind of funny, and you might get a few chuckles reading about "jiggling the fat.")

http://motherearthtreasurechest.blogspot.com/2008/09/jigglin

Take care!  Tre

RE: Nutrition-green tea, sugar

by trehouse60 on Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:00 AM

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The important question about commercial tea preparations:  do they contain crystallized fructose, or is it high fructose corn syrup?  If it's crystallized fructose, there is no harm in drinking it - in fact it may help.  Cancer cells get energy by fermenting sugar - the process called glycolysis. (unlike normal cells, that get energy by burning sugar)  Fructose, along with citric and acetic acid, work to inhibit glycolysis, thereby depriving cancer cells of the process they need to get energy to live.  That's why so many fruits, and actually quite a few vegetables are powerful cancer-fighters - the fructose in the food provides energy for normal cells while at the same time depriving energy from cancer cells.  Plus the fructose easily crosses cell barriers, carrying the anti-oxidants and other necessary phytochemicals (e.g. vitamin b 17) with it into the cells where it can do its job.

High fructose corn syrup is a totally different story. This is a man-made process that concentrates the fructose component of corn many times beyond its natural sweetness. High fructose corn syrup can really screw up metabolism for most people - it's no longer a simple natural sugar but rather is made to become a very complex carbohydrate that has some extremely nasty effects on the body and is a major contributor to the problem of obesity in industrialized nations.  (See my blog article on fructose and stevia for the difference between fructose and high fructose corn syrup, including links that go into detail as to why high fructose corn syrup is such a bad food additive:   http://motherearthtreasurechest.blogspot.com/2008/08/fructos   )

This is also another reason why soda pop is such a terrible beverage choice for people with cancer:  sweetened with high fructose corn syrup, and made fizzy with phosphorylation, which is extremely hard on the liver and kidneys. 

Making green tea used to be a major chore, as you had to get leaves and brew and strain them.  But these days green tea in bags is really quite common - even my local grocery store chain carries their own generic brand of green tea bags now - and I find it every bit as flavorful as the expensive brands.  True, it's probably not as potent and effective as loose tea imported fresh from wherever, but I think I probably am getting much more benefit from using tea bags and brewing my own, than I get from commercial bottled green tea. A lot of people say they don't like green tea unless prepared with honey and ginseng, but I've found it to be quite palatable with a little bit of crystalized fructose, or even with no sweetener at all.

Another thing that people might try if they don't like green tea, is mixing green and black tea together.  (I just use one tea bag each, but don't steep them as long.)  It's a different flavor, and is a quite effective cancer fighter.  Teas not only contain anti-oxidants (flavonoids, polyphenols from catechins) but they also contain other classes of cancer-fighting phytochemicals:  theoflavins and theorubigins, as well as EGCG (higher content in green tea than black tea.)

Sincerely,

Tre

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