dont know what to do

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dont know what to do

by jcr65566 on Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:00 AM

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I dont what to do, I feel Im getting better for the first time since 2007 see my revamp reply post to  CC member Jim at the end of this post from yesterday Im seeing my doctor who going to do the RP. the thing is  Im over weight I weigh 300lbs and over the last few month the pain I never know I had is gone from my pubic bone I just dont know what to do should I go ahead with the RP op and remember I once had bone mets a scan a few month showed it gone this new doctor could not belive it, even though he had my test reults in frount of him  So he sent me for more test Ive past every one, On one of these test an ulter sound showed  even my bladder looks like it returning to normil size My problem is Im now frighten the altrernative treatment Im now on will stop working, and Ill miss the operturnity to rid my self of this cancer at this time in my life

In  two weeks I have a psa test and Ill know how my psa going the way I feel I know it going down. please tell me  what would you do. Ray

 

Hi Jim I’m seeing the doctor on the 30 April I’m taking you advice going to ask for a biopsy before they do the surgery. You know since 2007  I had some really hard discissions to make on this.  My main problem just knows what to do. Back in 2007 my doctors told me there was nothing more they could do for me they said I had may be five years. Since then I’ve been trying to find some way to fight this, on my own. A naturopath told me about Zeolite and high dose vitamin C it did keep my psa from going up but it stop working in 2008  since then I have tried every sort of alternative treatment, I could get my hands on. I found no one alterative treatment works on it own, but this combination works well for me. Every day it gets a little bit better at least I can go to the toilet and not have to wait a few minutes to go I can feel things healing I just hope it lasts

 

If you want to know what I’m on its 160mg of red clover tablets a day two 40mg tablets in the morning and two 40mg tablets at night  these cost $1.00 a 40mg tablet. The budwig diet for prostrate cancer high dose of Selenium, Zinc, vitamin C vitamin D3 vitamin b17 (15 apricot pits)

 

I mix the Dr budwig diet up in the morning for breakfast I mix three table spoons of olive oil with three table spoons of cottage cheese with a bar mixer.  I then grind up the 15 apricot pits in a coffee grinder then add and grind up three table spoons of raw flack seeds add it all to gather in a bowl you can add things like strawberries and blue berries I have to use the olive oil as they found the flack seed oil bad for prostrate cancer but the ground up flack seeds are good to fight prostrate cancer.            

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by Johnt on Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:00 AM

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Get a 2nd opinion from a top prostate oncologist before you do anything. They are much more familiar with PC than a urologist or a surgeon. He can guide you to the best treatment for your individual situation.

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by jcr65566 on Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:00 AM

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problem is there only one urologist in town at first he did not  belive me  or the reports he said no one just gets over cancer with no treatment I told him about the budwig diet and the red clover Im on he still did not belive it worked so Ive been though a berarge of test but Im getting  such good reults I feel I dont need this operation. last apointment there was other doctors there asking me strange quistions. they looked at me like I was some sort of trickster they keep saying to one an other  there must be somthing else then then sent me for more test   but Im realy waried about is what treatment Im now doing  might stop like the high dose vitamin C did after a year . and my psa will then start to  go up Ive had a few sejestion to get a biopsy and I think that what I do next time I see the urologist take care Ray

 

Sit Back and Relax

by Tham on Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:00 AM

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Ray,

I didn't realize that your cancer appears to be going
into remission, which is very good for you. I initially
thought you had gone for allopathic treatment earlier
(chemo, surgery and radiation).

I suggest that you carry on with the Budwig diet and
supplements protocol as it is obviously responsible
for your remission, sit back and relax.

Why go for a drastic operation now and cut your prostate
out for nothing, while you are recovering ?  You are bound
to have big problems later on after such a drastic surgery.

In any case, it doesn't mean that if even you do a
radical prostectomy, as well as radiotherapy and be
given the best chemo drugs, you would cure the
cancer for sure, especially if the cancer is androgen-
insensitive. One of my friends just died after
going for all these at the best hospital in town.
His bill came to aound M$300,000.

Go for a PSA test, as well as the other usual diagnostic
tests - digital examination, ultrasound, CAT scans, full
blood picture. If they say you are normal, then you don't
need to go for further treatment.

Repeat these tests every 6 months (or 3 months if you
prefer to play it safer). If they do show that the cancer is
relapsing, then only do you consider surgery and/or chemo,
as well as look into other alternative options - herbs,
supplements, other diets, homeopathy, Ayurvedic, traditional
Chinese medicine. You have time on your hands with which
to consider other battle plans.  You have countless other
forms of treatments in your arsenal. Prostate cancer is
generally a slow-growing cancer.

It doesn't mean you must go for chemo, surgery and radiation
in order to beat a cancer. Allopathic medicine is just one of
the thousands of types of medicine in this world. If you can
beat it, or at least keep it at bay (remission) for life, with
herbs, vitamins and diet, that's good enough. You need not
achievea complete remission - just keeping in partial remission
so that it doesn't flare up, go out of control and metastasize,
is more than enough, so that you can have a fair quality of life.
In other words, just keep the enemy outside your house.

You don't have to disclose to your doctors what is responsible
for your remission now. If you tell them that you are taking
red clover, any allopathic doctor will just blink his eyes and
frown, because you can be pretty sure he would not know
what it is. And even if you tell him, it wouldn't make any
difference to the treatment he's going to give you anyway.

Neither would they have heard of Johanna Budwig.

And if you ever go for homeopathy, make sure you don't tell
them either, especially if you are in the USA. I'm aware that
most allopathic doctors there, as well as the majority of
the general population, are antagonistic towards homeopathy
and think it is utter nonsense.



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by jcr65566 on Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:00 AM

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you are so right Tham. Talking to CC member skidan in reply posts, what I think Ill do is ask to have a biopsy first befor the RP than Ill know for sure When I told my doctor a few month ago. I know he did not belive me, or the reults. So he sent me for more test. Ive pass evey one   you know when you mention Allopathic medicine I remember I read in Wikipedia that back in the 19th century  it meant "other than the disease" and it was intended, among other things, to point out how traditional doctors used methods that had nothing to do with the symptoms created with the disease, which meant that these methods were harmful to the patients. Now it highlight the difference  perceived between homeopathy and conventional medicine, all I know is though this is very slow it works take care mate and thanks Ray   

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by uromedic on Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:00 AM

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Ray,

 I think its great that you feel better while on the Budwig diet. I am not saying that you should quite by any means, because it does have you feeling better. Please be aware that diet alone will never cure cancer. You must have a definitive treatment for your cancer, the diet is merely supressing the growth of the cancer that is there.

If you are hesitant to do a RP for whatever reason and are interested in a more minimally invasive procedure that is equally as good at treating the cancer please let me know and I help you in any way possible.

Nick

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by jcr65566 on Sat Apr 25, 2009 12:00 AM

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Hi Nick OK please what’s the ( from your last post to me ) “ more minimally invasive procedure that is equally as good at treating the cancer” I would like to know thank you .

 I just took this on the cancer compass weekly news letter I use as well as the diet I’ve already told you about Walnuts, garlic, and cabbage, all have amazing cancer- fighting properties cheers Ray

Would-be cancer survivors had their diet expanded by three menu items this week, with new studies extolling the disease-fighting properties of grapefruit juice, walnuts and wine. The research hailing the apparent cancer-fighting powers of the three foods was presented Monday at the 100th annual meeting in Denver of the American Association for Cancer Research (AACR.) In one small clinical trial, researchers at the University of Chicago Medical Center found that combining eight ounces (230 milliliters) of grapefruit juice with the promising anti-cancer medicine rapamycin could increase the amount of that drug in the blood. Rapamycin has shown some promise in stopping the growth of new blood vessels -- which cancer tumors need to grow -- but it is expensive and poorly absorbed. Doctors have long argued that grapefruit juice should not be taken with medications because it can interfere with enzymes that break down certain drugs. In the case of rapamycin however, this interference appears to make the drugs more potent. "Grapefruit juice can increase blood levels of certain drugs three to five times," said study director Ezra Cohen, MD, a cancer specialist at the University of Chicago Medical Center. "This has always been considered a hazard. We wanted to see if, and how much, it could amplify the availability, and perhaps the efficacy of rapamycin, a drug with promise for cancer treatment." The trial showed that the juice appears to ramp up the drug's potency," he said. Many patients in the study reported side effects, however. More than half experienced elevated blood sugar levels, diarrhea, low white blood cell counts or fatigue. A second study presented at the conference found that walnut consumption could provide the body with essential Omega-3 fatty acids, antioxidants and phytosterols that reduce the risk of breast cancer.

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by uromedic on Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:00 AM

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Minimally invasive would be Cryotherapy or HIFU. Both of these procedures are excellent at treating the cancer, but with fewer risks of side effects.

As for your diet, I agree that things like antioxidants, phytoesterols, lignans, enterolactones and Omega-3's are a huge part of any good diet...especially one built for a cancer patient. There are recent studies that show these nutrients are essential in a good diet for patients suffering from cancer and those who are looking to prevent it. The study shows that the amounts of these nutrients you need each day are almost virtually unatainable in regular foods, and the problem with pharmacy grade supplements is that you only absorb a percentage of what you intake.

We have come across a "whole raw food" that provides you with 6 grams of Omega-3's, phytonutrients, antioxidants, lignans and enterolactones as well as anti-inflammotories in one package. The seed is salvia hispanica-L (MILA) and it is absorbed at 99% vs. the typical 60-65%. The seed has to be cut in a specific manor in order to release the oils in them, and you can get MILA from www.thebesthealth.lifemax.net. Please check it out if you are interested or are curious as to what is in it. I hope it helps you some, as for the procedures, send me your personal contact info and I will be glad to talk to you in private about the procedures or send you info on those as well.

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by jcr65566 on Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:00 AM

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Your right about  The seed Salvia hispanica-L (MILA) in Australia it know as Chia seeds. I’ve had them before. I always thought the white Chia seeds are more potent than the black Chia seeds, but this is not so. They are  both as potent as each other. The Chea seed is a health food .

 My MBF medical  insurance dos not have a pervader number for Cryotherapy or HIFU so there no cover for the Cryotherapy or HIFU and at $20.0000.00 each one I haven’t got the money  now. Though I did have it in 2007.  so I cant get it done.

The prostrate cancer I have is sex hormone dependent cancer The 160mg of Red clover tablets I take each day is knocking it out. I’ve since found a lot pf prostrate cancer patients using it, but with what Ive heard I don’t know how long it will last, as I have had other prostrate cancer  patient say that the red clover brought there PSA down to almost zero alright. Then only to find it going back up again a year or two later. I have heard of patients having there prostrate out then finding there  there PSA either the same as be fore the RP or is starting to go weeks or so later after The RP

Other cancer patient telling me they think the  RP surgery had spread the cancer cells  though out there bodies

Im now waried about  this new patient blood saving device. to me it look like it could put cancer cells back in my body as well as my blood Spreading cancer cells though out my body.  This is why I went on the Dr Budwig diet of flack seeds and the cottage cheese. and no Sugury foods, Friut, Red meat, or caws milk. Hope fully it will repair the damage while the red clover brings my psa down

So with  the red clover and  the diet I wont need the RP wish me luck Ray   

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