Falling PSA on holistic treatment

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Falling PSA on holistic treatment

by jcr65566 on Mon May 11, 2009 12:00 AM

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I just want to give an up date on my holistic cancer treatment. I was told in 2007 by two urologists and my family GP that holistic treatment don’t work.  Well they were wrong. I want to tell you why  The holistic cancer treatment Im on is really working well. I can’t under stand why they said that.

 I have advanced prostate cancer; In 2007 I use to have bone Mets. Doctors back then told me they could not help me so I went and seen a naturopath who know how cancer works and how to really treat it.  with out damaging the patient body. She told me we have cancer cells from the first day we are conceived to the day we die and our bodies are always fighting these cancer cells  Unless it get over whelmed by them than we get termors but our bodies are all ways fighting cancer cells So we just need to give it a little bit of help.  

 I’ve found out over the last half of  this year  The holistic cancer treatment is  more then just helping  me with my PSA, I feel,,, better in side and out.  My naturopath told me in 2007, When we have cancer the whole body sick, not just one or two parts of it.

I feel my whole body healing, I also  found I don’t get as tired as I use to , I also seem to be more alert at. You know at  57 I use to forget people names a lot now I don’t   .

Each day I take 5000IU of Vitamin D Selenium high dose Vitamin C 10g a day, a 160mg of Red Clover. and the Dr Budwig diet.

The prostrate cancer I have is a  sex hormone dependant prostrate cancer. The red clover I use  takes the place of the testosterone on the prostate cancer cells receptor, blocking it, so the cancer is starved of the sex hormone testosterone and dies .

I could beat it even more, if I could get a hold of some pomegranate extract, what it dos is stave the prostrate cancer cell of more of  it food, I found out I  can only get it if I live in the US. I can get it by post but it cost an arm and a leg doing it that way isn’t cheep  

 I also found one of the hardest things to do with this treatment  is to stay away from sugary foods and fruit and fruit juice as my type of cancer loves the sugar glucose and  fruit like and apple has a tea spoon full of fructose sugar in it I don’t know how long I can stay on this but I like to it cost me $321 a month I’ve search for almost three  years, to find some thing like this, that works this well, all the best, and  be well Ray  

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by oldflyingfarmer on Mon May 11, 2009 12:00 AM

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Please keep us informed. I am trying the Flaxseed Oil and Cottage Cheese once a day, plus taking multiple vitamins and supplements while I wait for my surgery. I am hoping this holostic approach helps. I just do not have much time before my surgery and I do not feel comfortable putting my surgery off with a psa of 31 and gleason score of 9.

Thanks

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by skidan on Mon May 11, 2009 12:00 AM

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Ray,

 I have advanced prostate cancer and I was also told that holistic treatments do not work from my doctor. I have been successfull in treating my cancer with a holisitc treatment the last 3 years. It doesn't have the nasty side effects and you are right it heals the whole body, not just the cancer. Our bodies are like  machines, what you feed it either makes it work better or worse. The choice is up to us how we treat our bodies. As long as you strengthen your immune system and remove the toxins your body can heal itself. But you have to help it along with anti-toxins, detoxifications, and supplements. The water that you drink is important too. In the USA the water is filled with chemicals that weaken your immune system, either drink filtered water or water shipped in glass, avoid plastic. The water from the faucet killed my fish, what do you think it does to us? I look forward in hearing continued success of your approach. Its too bad the medical community won't incorporate holistic medicine with traditional.

Dan

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by Tham on Mon May 11, 2009 12:00 AM

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Sorry, that should have been Ray, not Bill.

I still keep thinking of my friend Bill from the
other forum who has just passed away.

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by jcr65566 on Mon May 11, 2009 12:00 AM

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 I will keep you in formed don’t worry. I’m really warred about you having this RP but I know how you feel. I was the same way if my psa did not go down I would have had  the RP but if it get worse I think I go done an other road, then  RP. I can now see why your so concerned with   a PSA of 31 and Gleason score of 9 its is high, to bad you cant get you psa down befor it would give you more of a chance but I know  if you not also taking on either red clover or  pomegranate extract, this wont happen. You know in 2007  I had secondary bone Mets,. And my PSA was only 4..And for years before that , I also use to had an itchy  lump, just out side my sternum above my stomach it gone now where the cancer was in my ribs and my lower back as the wether gets cold I can still feel it a bit but it a healing pain I rely know that this holistic approach working.  it didn’t  just remove cancer from my  prostrate it removing cancer  from my  whole body. To bad you cant do what Cant you delay it for a few month to you get another PSA test  the urologist doctor said  to me when I cancelled mine he made and other appointment  for me to get my PSA checked  in three months I think I use my own doctor at $75.00 for a conseltation it will cost  me to much doing it with him  take care and best of luck Ray   

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by jcr65566 on Mon May 11, 2009 12:00 AM

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Hi and Thanks Tham Do you feel any better about what happen to your friend it was so sad this flaming cancer takes the best of us..

  Ill look into those sites. you sent.  My problem I’m wearied about  is getting the pomegranate extract, through Australian customs. An other CC member from here in Australia told me he has the same concerns   if this happened What will happen is Ill order it and and pay for it and  if our very efficient Australian customs seizes it. I wont know about it. even though I’ve payed for it. He also told me to ring then first . I love to get  though, as  I have read so many good reports on it,  I know with this holistic cancer treatment that’s its working really well.  but the thing is it costing me $321 per month. so what I like to do is  get my psa down to 0.00 and then back off a  little  bit. but knowing me it wont happen that way Ill keep at it just in case all the bess Tham God bless you mate Ray

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by jcr65566 on Mon May 11, 2009 12:00 AM

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Hi Dan mate you are so right my doctor wont even talk to me about it. in his surgery   He said at a party we both went to. I thought this strange I said but it working, he said I know it working Ray I can see by the test reports it working. but In not allowed to talk about it in my surgery. OK, O well. Any way . Dan I finely read you book. It not it not to bad. (That’s an Australian way of saying it good  and I liked it )  it good the way you made it simple to read so any one with out medical training can read it, and understand it, and the last half I full of  facts on the holistic approach. How  it heals the whole body, not just the cancer. I know were both right. What we feed our body  either makes it work better or worse. The choice is really up to us, on how we treat our bodies. We can only Win, Win, Win,  when we strengthen our immune system and remove the toxins so then our body can heal itself. The thing is I feel  when we have cancer we have to help it along with anti-toxins, detoxifications, and supplements. We both use the holistic approach but in slightly deferent ways. Hay Dan you use the pomegranate extract. I use red clover both of these cause prostrate cancer cells to starve to death and die with out harming the rest of out body. all the best Dan mate God be with you Ray

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by Badmamazoo on Tue May 12, 2009 12:00 AM

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Ray,

Re: pomegranite extract - A thought:

Contact the manager of a large herbel supplement retailer in Australia and ask him/her whether they would be willing to import and sell the pomegranite extract. 

Joe

RE: Falling PSA on holistic treatment

by jcr65566 on Tue May 12, 2009 12:00 AM

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hi Joe  thanks mate for the reply. I thought of doing just that. then  I also  thought of importing it my self but havent done any thing about it yet but it some thing to look in to later but no waries I still have the red clover how are you going any way take care Ray

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by Badmamazoo on Tue May 12, 2009 12:00 AM

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Hi Ray,

 Since you asked, I'm just preparing myself for a colonoscopy on Friday. Its been seven months since I had my first one (and a follow-up sigmundoscopy, with a scare. I had several polyps, one of which was a flat one and quite large. However, it was removed and it was not cancerouus ( I had two biopsies of the same mass). I don't know what I would do if I had both prostate AND rectal cancer!

 Hope you have a great day!

 Joe

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