Sutherlandia OPC -- just another scam?

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Sutherlandia OPC -- just another scam?

by StudentGA on Tue May 26, 2009 12:00 AM

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I have been reading about the highly-touted 'miracle cure' that is Sutherlandia OPC, and the anecdotes (advertisements?) sound so convincing that I can't help but consider purchasing a few bottles for my uncle suffering from stage IV PC. However, I wanted to consult those who may already have experience administering/taking this before I potentially waste money on yet another unproven treatment. Does anyone here have a success story they can share that doesn't involve a friend who had a friend who had a relative who took it, etc.? 

RE: Sutherlandia OPC -- just another scam?

by Joan_l_3 on Tue May 26, 2009 12:00 AM

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Dear Student,

There is always a charlatan of some type lying in wait in the bushes to separate you from your money.  This is just another scam; some folks have no ethics and will stop at nothing while they prey on vulnerable patients searching in vain for the magic cure.  Keep your money in your pocket.  

Joan L

RE: Sutherlandia OPC -- just another scam?

by Unknown_Member on Tue May 26, 2009 12:00 AM

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I have to agree with Joan.  I think this is a scam.  Look at the ads in Google.  You really can't tell what they are saying.  I'd save my money and go with conventional treatment.

RE: Sutherlandia OPC -- just another scam?

by emcee46 on Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:00 AM

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   The only thing that I could add to this is that this was one of many other potions I got my partner on her PC diagnosis in an effort to both supplement her treatment and detox her prior to having it. 

   However, by definition, chemo is toxic so giving anything that could aid in a detox was obviously going to be counter-productive and, along with other things like Zeolite, I stopped them before her treatment began.

   To be fair to the manufacturers of Sutherlandia, their website is quite open when it says that '...Sutherlandia should not be recommended as a so-called
“universal cancer cure”, but rather as a quality-of-life tonic...' (their bold type, not mine! 

   Gioven that this has been in existence for many years in South Africa and its Afrikaanse description is 'Kankerbos' - or 'Cancer bush' in English - I think it's one of those things you have to make up your own mind about.  The website described its properties as follows:-


  • Mood

    Sutherlandia decreases anxiety and irritability and it elevates
    mood.
  • Appetite and weight

    It is an established fact that up to a third of cancer patients
    succumb to the wasting syndrome, rather than the actual tumor
    mass. Appropriate doses of select chemotypes and varieties of
    Sutherlandia dramatically improves appetite, and weight-gain
    can be expected in wasted patients. The first 5 kg gain is common
    after six weeks of treatment. In patients who are not wasted,
    weight-gain is not usual.
  • Energy levels and exercise tolerance

    Sutherlandia typically improves the energy levels and exercise
    tolerance of patients, and gives an enhanced sense of well-being.
   Hope this helps ...

 

RE: Sutherlandia OPC -- just another scam?

by jpfs0452 on Tue Mar 29, 2011 09:50 PM

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Nerium oleader, one of the ingredients is poisonous if taken in sufficient quantities.  I think further investigation may be needed here.

RE: Far from a scam, Sutherlandia OPC is the real deal

by chuck1943 on Wed Mar 30, 2011 02:44 PM

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Every one makes claims but to say  it almost 100% succesful in treating aids is really bogus, if it was aids would be a thing of the past. I want to see one of these cures that is free and works, not ones that suck the money out of those desperate to save there loved ones.

RE: Far from a scam, Sutherlandia OPC is the real deal

by Joan_l_3 on Wed Mar 30, 2011 06:41 PM

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Amen to Chuck's message!

RE: Far from a scam, Sutherlandia OPC is the real deal

by jpfs0452 on Wed Mar 30, 2011 09:11 PM

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I here you, but it never hurts to at least check it out.  I would think if there was some sort of benefit from something that wasn't from a pharmaceutical company, they might try to suppress it in order to continue to profit from their own products. 

RE: Far from a scam, Sutherlandia OPC is the real deal

by chuck1943 on Thu Mar 31, 2011 08:34 PM

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On Mar 30, 2011 9:11 PM jpfs0452 wrote:

I here you, but it never hurts to at least check it out.  I would think if there was some sort of benefit from something that wasn't from a pharmaceutical company, they might try to suppress it in order to continue to profit from their own products. 

Im no big fan of the pharmaceutical co but believe if something like this was for real they would get there hands on it and make a fourtune.

RE: Far from a scam, Sutherlandia OPC is the real deal

by limart on Tue Apr 05, 2011 06:59 PM

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I can tell you that Nerium oleander works.  Don't be afraid to try it. We started doing lots of research since my husband's cancer diagnosis and have learned that there are many substances from nature that are "poisonous" if missused but have been used for generations to fight disease and create health.  It should be no surprise that the pharmaceutical companies spend millions to try to prevent the spread of info about natural cures since they are making such huge profits from medecines that treat our diseases. They stand to lose big time when we all learn more about curing disease with what nature has given us and about keeping ourselves healthy.

My husband was diagnosed with stage 4 esophageal cancer in August of 2010.  He has the very aggressive type of esophageal cancer that had spread to his bones, lymph nodes and liver.  His oncologist (and second opinion DR.) told him that there was no cure for his type of cancer but that radiation and chemo may help him live a little longer than if he did nothing. He was told he would likely live for 6 months to a year.  With no long term hope from traditional cancer treatments we felt like we had nothing to lose by trying some alternative treatments.  For 6 months now he has been using Anvirzel ( medicine from the Nerium Oleander plant) which we order from  Honduras.  Instead of being on his deathbed now he is doing amazingly well, working every day, feeling much better and looking healthy and back to normal.  He had an endoscopy last week to look at the primary cancer site and the report said that the cells are not "cancerous" anymore but called "dysplasia"  It appears as though it is killing the cancer. We of course will know more later but he is doing so much better than his Dr.s ever expected.  We have been doing more research now and are probably going to switch to one of the capsule forms of oleander since the Anvirzel is very expensive.  Anvirzel has passed the 1st stage of FDA approval which means that it will still be years before it is on the market here.  It also expalins why it is very expensive. 

We are a family from Minnesota who were lucky enough to get a call from someone we barely knew after he heard of the cancer diagnosis.  He shared a friend's experience with Nerium oleander treatment for his cancer and we are so grateful that we were courageous enough to try it! 

 

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