Any way to remove some of the tumor to allow better breathing?

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Any way to remove some of the tumor to allow better breathing?

by ForOurMom on Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:00 AM

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Hello All,
My mother has stage 4 NSCLC and has difficulty breathing because of the size of the main tumor as well as all the nodules and small tumors that are there. Her lung capacity is also so low that cannot be registered.

Has anyone on this forum ever used radiation or any other method/technology to reduce the size of a tumor in order to help with breathing?

Any help/information is greatly appreciated.
thank you.

RE: Any way to remove some of the tumor to allow better breathing?

by jcr65566 on Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:00 AM

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hi sorry to hear about you Mum I want to help but I don’t know about radiation I never had it I do know about alterative treatments like Zeolitte vitamin C and Zinc, and  I do know about my friend Noel,  who  at that time in 2007  was in remission from lung cancer and bone cancer. he once showed me a photo taken five years before, you could see it was in his chest, also  in the photo I  could see these lumps on his chest. He lifted his shirt  the brown scares were there, but no lumps.

In the color photo he showed me he was a kinda gray color when I seen him in 2007  he looked more leatherier then in the photho he showed me I ask him how he did this. he told me  The reason he was showing me this photo was he had found out  I have advance prostrate cancer. You see  in 2007 I had just found out I had advance prostrate cancer thre month later,  I had a bone scan that showed I also had the start of bone cancer, it was in my  ribs and my lower back. the doctors had told me they couldn’t  do much for me. ecepted pain meds,

Noel told me  five years be fore he went on a 6 month course of liquid  cellular Zeolitte and high  dose vitamin supplements as well as no sugary or process  foods.

About about  six month  his doctor told him he was in remission

So I thought I give it a shot  I ended up contacting  a naturopath in western Australia who know how to treat cancers she advice me to go on a course of liquid  cellular Zeolitte 15 drops 4 times a day and high dose vitamin C and Zinc I also went off sugary foods and drink. I did not know how well this work till 12 months later, when a bone scan showed these little  holes were my bone cancer use to be. The Zeolitte had little effect on my prostrate cancer, I think probable be cause it a sex hormone dependent prostrate cancer but  it did put my PSA down a couple of points but next few PSA test it went back right back  up again  I’m still fighting it  with the Dr  Budwig diet of having three table spoon of flack seed oil and six table spoons of cottage cheese for breakfast, plus  high dose vitamin supplements and  red clover tablets I found on this my PSA coming down showily  Nole move inter state but I found out from frends he doing grate hes ask about me a few times I rung him a few times he said he still ok and Ive never felt better I run into a frend of mine who said you lost weight I told them I havent she said to my wife he look leatherier I feel better then I was in 2007 I remember my naturopath  saying when we have cancer the whole bodies sick not just a part of it

take care and God bless you and your Mum  Ray  

RE: Any way to remove some of the tumor to allow better breathing?

by CancerStrike2 on Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:00 AM

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On 6/2/2009 ForOurMom wrote:

Hello All,
My mother has stage 4 NSCLC and has difficulty breathing because of the size of the main tumor as well as all the nodules and small tumors that are there. Her lung capacity is also so low that cannot be registered.

Has anyone on this forum ever used radiation or any other method/technology to reduce the size of a tumor in order to help with breathing?

Any help/information is greatly appreciated.
thank you.


There are couple ways if the hospital would do for you.

1. Target Tumor area Radiation will shrink it as the Laser therapy is a cancer treatment that uses a laser beam (a narrow beam of intense light) to kill cancer cells.  Likely hospital and insurance would offer this but there is huge side effects...

2. Photodynamic theraphy, approve by the Pallative Care in order to reduce the pain, able to breath better.  This option is only avail at the teaching hospital as School Hospital, regular hospital wont able to offer. Low side effects?

3. Endoscopic stent placement
   An endoscope is a thin, tube-like instrument used to look at tissues inside the body. An endoscope has a light and a lens for viewing and may be used to place a stent in a body structure to keep the structure open. Endoscopic stent placement can be used to open an airway blocked by abnormal tissue.

4. Radio Surgery would help too.  Low side effects, not a lot of locations has the machine to do it, google to find out...

Good luck!

V

RE: Any way to remove some of the tumor to allow better breathing?

by jd363 on Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:00 AM

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One thing your mom needs is normal life. Cause she will be thinking
about what she is going to miss if she leaves you. If you dont change
your normal pattern with your mom, you keep her feeling somewhat
normal. You need to talk to your mom about how you feel, because that
will also help her and I am sure you. Just love your mom and treat her
the same. She needs that most of all cause her life has changed. you shouldn't feel bad.

i know at least in my experience that i got sick and tired of
everything always being about my health and me being sick. i craved
some semblance of normalcy. so i was happy when i talked with my
friends and it wasn't "so how are you doing, how are you feeling,
when's your next check-up" it makes us feel like we are nothing but the
disease when thats all we hear and thats all anyone will talk about.

at the same time though (and i don't know about anyone else, just
speaking from personal experience) i didn't like it if people acted
like there was NOTHING wrong, or how can i say this the right way? they
ignored the fact that i was sick? then i would feel hurt inside, my
mind would be thinking "geez don't they care at all that i'm going
through this?"

i am sure it was incredibly difficult on all of my family and friends to walk that tight rope.

my best advice would be to ask her how she is doing, try to get her to
talk about it b/c she has a million different things going through her
head right now, and if she just found out she probably does need that
focus. but if she asks you how you are doing, don't make small talk,
tell her the truth. "unload on her" (as you would say) she is used to
you doing that and she will be able to tell if you aren't doing it
anymore.

cancer can make us feel so helpless, so weak and if you don't talk to
her about your problems (when she asks) then she may feel like
(subconciously) that you are saying she is to weak to help you. we
already feel extremely weak and helpless in everything else in our
lives, so we do want something to feel more normal and we want to be
able to help someone else esp. since we feel like we can't help
ourselves at the moment.

i hope some of this helps and isn't too confusing. http://doctorfinders.com/doctor.php?Provider=pangelos
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