Myelofibrosis

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Myelofibrosis

by sunshine49 on Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:00 AM

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My husband is 49 years old and went to the hospital March 2009 with stomach pain, discovered his spleen was enlarged and his blood counts were all really low they dropped to ( 7 ) they gave him blood and scheduled a bone marrow biopsy and he was diagnosised with myelofibrosis(bone marrow disease)  told he needed to look into his retirement he would no longer be able to work (it was not good news).  He applied for social security disability was denied (appealing) he cannot go back to work (heavy industrial). 

 We had disability insurance on our vehicles but the insurance co. just keeps asking for more information, they have been processing it since March. (I guess we will lose our vehicles before they will make a decision, but it is just vehicles they can be replaced.)

 Six years from being able to retire at a company he has worked for over 23 years. Has to go out on a disability retirement, but has to wait for Social Security Disability to be awarded before the company will approve it. Were also concerned about not losing his medical insurance.

I have read 5 to 7 years is the prognosis for this disease depending on individual medical conditions. 

Social Security Disability I have been told could take 18 months or longer.  My husband may not survive that long, and the time he does have left I want him to be able to enjoy it, not be bogged down in paperwork and red tape.   I never realized the government hopes you will die, before you can collect what you have been paying in for all those years you worked.  My husband is a military veteran he deserves better than this!

I'm sorry, I'm just angry - I'm hoping writing it down here will help me deal with it a little better.  The paperwork and red tape is really getting on my nerves and I know its just beginning for us.  If anyone has some advice regarding this disease or how to handle the mountain of paperwork that goes with being disabled, I think I could sure use it about now !!!!!

Thanks for understanding.

 

 

RE: Myelofibrosis

by Harvey_L_1 on Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:00 AM

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I understand your anger. I'm 64, was diagnosed with myelofibrosis nine years ago and was then told my prognosis was three to five years, so my first bit of advice is that however down in the trough you feel, do not give up hope and don't let your husband give up hope.

Though you mention your disability insurance woes you don't mention where you live.  I live in San Francisco and have been followed from the onset of the disease not just with hematologist/oncologists, but with a team (at UCSF) who specialize in these rare blood cancers. Is your husband being treated by the best of the best? As I'm sure you now know knowledge about myeloproliferative disorders is limited and only a comparatively small segment of the medical community is equipped to treat the rare patient with myelofibrosis. So, point number one is to be sure that he's at the center of the medical myelofibrosis universe. When I was first diagnosed the hematologist/oncologist who did my (first) bone marrow biopsy and made the diagnosis said, "This is beyond me. I'm sending you a team of specialists" and he was himself on staff at UCSF. 

The doctor who has done the most research into myelofibrosis in Dr. Teferi at Mayo Clinic. There's a small community of doctors who really know about this disease and they all follow each other, but be sure your husband's doctor knows about Dr. Teferi and is up to date on his latest findings and protocols. If your doctor doesn't know about Dr. Teferi, think twice as to whether your husband's being treated by the right doctor.

You're absolutely right that the red tape, delays and bureaucracy will continue to fray your nerves, but now, more than ever, your husband will need you as his advocate. At the numbers you mention (I assume you're talking about his hematocrit counts), he's weak, persistently exhausted, feels lightheaded whenever he gets up, may be having trouble catching his breath, feels his heart racing, is probably suffering night sweats, and feeling ongoing discomfort in his abdomen. He's in no shape to do the fighting.

Again, to offer some hope I can tell you tha at one point I was down to 6.1, could barely move, received twelve units of blood over several weeks and it took me four to six months to get back to my "normally abnormal" level. In the interim, it was all on my wife to deal with the many issues that arose, medical, insurance and otherwise, because I was utterly incapable of doing so. The good news is you can come back. I did and I'm messing up the medical statistics on mortality for this disease, so hang in there and be sure your husband doesn't give in to despair. You haven't had time yet to wrap your minds around what's happening. Trust me. After the anger will come self pity and despondency, but hopefully, eventually, acceptance and a willingness to fight.

If you want more information on the regimen of pills and such that I've taken and am now taking I'd be glad to share that with you but if your husband is in the hands of a doctor who's an expert in this disease he or she should know all the options.

As for your disability insurance problems, again, you've got to be the one to carry the water on that at least for now while your husband is fighting to regain a modicum of strength. If you can afford an attorney, get one who knows disability insurance issues. If you can't afford one, contact your local bar association, explain your problem, and find out if they can refer you to an attorney who will help you on a no fee basis. Most bar associations have such contacts. I'm an attorney and though I've handled my own disability insurance issues, at one point I reached a level of such frustration with one of my carriers that I knew I was losing objectivity and hired an attorney to advise me, so even for professionals, some objective guidance is worthwhile.

Feel free to ask questions. There aren't many of us who really know what this is all about so I'm more than willing to answer as best as I can.

Harvey Gould

RE: Myelofibrosis

by very_hopeful on Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:00 AM

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Hi, I've been on this message board before, spoken with many of you, including retired teacher, now I have another question.

My husband has been diagnosed with idiopathic mf for a few years, no symptoms, blood work is fine.  He had a virtual colonscopy a few weeks ago, since our doctor said he shouldn't have an actual one, too much risk.

It showed 2 polyps, one small, the other much larger, that can't be burned away, it needs surgury.  Naturally, I'm very very concerned about this and how this will work with his mf. 

Does anyone have any info about this?  Anyone ever have surgury?  Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated.  We're seeing the doctor tomorrow, Monday, and will know what's what by then.

Thanks for your help.

RE: Myelofibrosis

by Harvey_L_1 on Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:00 AM

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I'm the guy who replied above your question in this string. I also have chronic idiopathic MF. Since the diagnosis I've also been diagnosed with diabetes and CAD. For the CAD I've had two angioplasties, the second time to insert stents. The CAD was discoverd when I had a routine check-up for then upcoming surgery to remove my gall bladder because of gall stones. The first angioplasty was to open the blockage so I could have the gall bladder surgery. Since I'd be under an anesthetic, they wouldn't do the surgery with a cardiovascular blockage.  I tolerated the gall bladder surgery well. The second angioplasty was about six months after the gall bladder surgery and was required because the blockage had closed up again so that time they implated two stents. The procedure took about four hours. Again I tolerated the procedure well though by that time I was on Plavix along with many other medications to thin my blood though, because of the MF my platelets are falling. Bottom line, especially with you saying your husband is not experiencing symptoms, as long as he gets an OK for the surgery, the MF alone should not be a preventing factor. Obviously, any surgery has its risks, but if the surgery is unlikely to cause significant bleeding and if his platelet counts are in decent shape, all things his doctor should know, sounds like he should be OK. I wish him well.

Harvey

RE: Myelofibrosis

by very_hopeful on Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:00 AM

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On 6/29/2009 Harvey L. wrote:

I'm the guy who replied above your question in this string. I also have chronic idiopathic MF. Since the diagnosis I've also been diagnosed with diabetes and CAD. For the CAD I've had two angioplasties, the second time to insert stents. The CAD was discoverd when I had a routine check-up for then upcoming surgery to remove my gall bladder because of gall stones. The first angioplasty was to open the blockage so I could have the gall bladder surgery. Since I'd be under an anesthetic, they wouldn't do the surgery with a cardiovascular blockage.  I tolerated the gall bladder surgery well. The second angioplasty was about six months after the gall bladder surgery and was required because the blockage had closed up again so that time they implated two stents. The procedure took about four hours. Again I tolerated the procedure well though by that time I was on Plavix along with many other medications to thin my blood though, because of the MF my platelets are falling. Bottom line, especially with you saying your husband is not experiencing symptoms, as long as he gets an OK for the surgery, the MF alone should not be a preventing factor. Obviously, any surgery has its risks, but if the surgery is unlikely to cause significant bleeding and if his platelet counts are in decent shape, all things his doctor should know, sounds like he should be OK. I wish him well.

Harvey


Hi Harvey,

First, I can't thank you enough for replying so fast to my call for help.  I'm so much calmer now after hearing from retired teacher and you, I know Allen will be fine after this colonscopy.   We saw the colonscopy specialist yesterday, he explained there will be no surgery, only the colonscopy when he'll remove both polyps, which he believes could be removed successfully.  If not, there will be surgery, but another time.  He has also performed this on other patients with mf, and everything is fine afterwards.

However, hearing from you relieves my mind, and Allen's as well. 

How are you doing?  If there's anyway I can ever help, please let me know, I'll be here.  Thanks ever so much again for your "healing" words.

Arlene

RE: Myelofibrosis

by Harvey_L_1 on Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:00 AM

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Arlene,

Glad to hear that Allen doesn't need surgery after all, his MF aside. I'm always happy to pass on any information that only the few of us can really know, because I'm aware that it's the lack of knowledge about this disease that cause so much of the fright. At any rate, give him my best. I've got no complaints. Hell, I've been hanging around so long since diagnosis, no one believes I've got any problems anyway.

 Best,

Harvey

RE: Myelofibrosis

by very_hopeful on Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:00 AM

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Hi Harvey,

You make me smile, and are so right.  When Allen was first diagnosed I completely panicked then found this site.   Got great advice, so much so that our doctor said, quit going on that site....   boy were they wrong.  Info is so important, we perish for lack of knowledge.

I'll let you know how things are going, and please keep everyone here informed as to yourself.  I and everyone cares.

Thanks again,

Arlene

RE: Myelofibrosis

by L_Suzy on Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:00 AM

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On 6/11/2009 sunshine49 wrote:

My husband is 49 years old and went to the hospital March 2009 with stomach pain, discovered his spleen was enlarged and his blood counts were all really low they dropped to ( 7 ) they gave him blood and scheduled a bone marrow biopsy and he was diagnosised with myelofibrosis(bone marrow disease)  told he needed to look into his retirement he would no longer be able to work (it was not good news).  He applied for social security disability was denied (appealing) he cannot go back to work (heavy industrial). 

 We had disability insurance on our vehicles but the insurance co. just keeps asking for more information, they have been processing it since March. (I guess we will lose our vehicles before they will make a decision, but it is just vehicles they can be replaced.)

 Six years from being able to retire at a company he has worked for over 23 years. Has to go out on a disability retirement, but has to wait for Social Security Disability to be awarded before the company will approve it. Were also concerned about not losing his medical insurance.

I have read 5 to 7 years is the prognosis for this disease depending on individual medical conditions. 

Social Security Disability I have been told could take 18 months or longer.  My husband may not survive that long, and the time he does have left I want him to be able to enjoy it, not be bogged down in paperwork and red tape.   I never realized the government hopes you will die, before you can collect what you have been paying in for all those years you worked.  My husband is a military veteran he deserves better than this!

I'm sorry, I'm just angry - I'm hoping writing it down here will help me deal with it a little better.  The paperwork and red tape is really getting on my nerves and I know its just beginning for us.  If anyone has some advice regarding this disease or how to handle the mountain of paperwork that goes with being disabled, I think I could sure use it about now !!!!!

Thanks for understanding.

 

 


I have had myelofibrosis for at least 11yrs.  I am still going strong.  I understand your anger.  Disability should not be a problem.  Make sure all your paperwork is complete and all questions answered.  Also, your Dr plays a big part in the paperwork - make sure what he wrote pertaining to your husbands illness is complete, accurate and really states why he can no longer work.  If you are close to a SS office take your paperwork to them and ask them why it was rejected.  Did you have company disability?

I don't know where you live but if you have not done so go to a large cancer center where they treat myelofibrosis.  I am fortunate to live close to Moffitt Cancer Ctr in Tampa and they are heavy into research with great doctors.  The prognosis for myelofibrosis is always voiced at 5yrs. but I see many individuals on websites who have had it 20yrs. and longer.  I intend to be one of them. One of the best healing agents is your husbands mind.  And mediation.  There are many tapes etc out there on healing.

I usually require a transfusion every 2 wks and while I dislike it and the time it takes - I have to have it done.  There are drugs out there to promote red blood cells and to help with spleen enlargement. 

I know it is devasting for you and your family but your husband could go another 20yrs or more.  Be positive!  You will wade through the paperwork.

Good luck, 

Suzy M in fl

 

 

 

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