HOW WILL DEATH OCCUR?

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RE: HOW WILL DEATH OCCUR?

by sinbad2 on Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:00 AM

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I'm sorry to hear that you're having trouble affording the treatment.  Are you qualified for a clinical trial?  All the cost of the medications and the scans to monitor the growth or lack thereof are paid for by the study.  Ask your doctor or oncologist if you fall into the criterea for a study.

 

Good Luck!

RE: HOW WILL DEATH OCCUR?

by sgmstage4 on Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:00 AM

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Go to social security and ask for application for disability, and inquire about a deeming waiver.

RE: HOW WILL DEATH OCCUR?

by 19938 on Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:00 AM

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On 6/25/2009 Shotgun wrote:

I have been diagnosed with metastasized renal cell carcinoma manifesting itself in my lungs.  My oncologist estimates I will die in about 6 months.

How does death occur?

How will I know when my time is near? 

 


 

I agree with the others.  See a different oncologist.  I have stage lV renal cell cancer also.  Had left kidney removed March 2008 .  I could not afford the Sutent either.  My part would have been $4000 a month.  I live on social security and no way could I do this.  My oncologist set me up with his social worker and she contacted Pfizer. I had to show proof of income, and they are providing it for me.  God is so good.  I too have mets in my lymph nodes to abdoman and pelvis and chest area, not lungs.  They are all responding to the Sutent. I have been fortunate and have had only minor side affects.  Don't give up, keep on trucking and praying.  May God bless you. Peggy

RE: HOW WILL DEATH OCCUR?

by 19938 on Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:00 AM

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I forgot to tell you the kidney surgeon gave me 6 months to 2 years to live.  It has been almost a year and a half now and I am doing well.  Peggy

RE: HOW WILL DEATH OCCUR?

by Shotgun on Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:00 AM

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On 6/30/2009 570sheila wrote:

Hello....I hope you are well. Will you PLEASE leave us know HOW YOU ARE DOING and IF you gotten any help with your meds.??

                               Hugs Sheila

Hi, Sheila.  It's Shotgun again.  Thought I'd give you an update.  I started 50 mg of Sutent on July 3rd.  Except for nausea, I tolerated it very well until I was between the 2nd and 3rd week of the 28 day plan.  I was prepared for one or two side effects, but I got nearly ALL of them and they just kept piling on.  I got extreme nausea so bad I couldn't eat for 3 days.  The prescription anti-nausea med they gave me ceased to work so the called in a new script increasing the dose from 4 mg to 8 mg, but my pharmacy plan with Humana refused to fill it saying I can only get 30 pills in any 30 day period and I already had 30 pills.  So I started taking 2 instead of 1 to get the 8 mg dose and it helped tremendously, but obviously used up my 30 pills quickly.  Then my mouth got sore including a huge ulcer that formed on my tongue and another started on the other side.  My gums bled when I brushed my teeth and my mouth was too sore to eat and swallowing became difficult.  Then extreme fatigue set in.  Then more shortness of breath  than usual (I also have CHF & COPD which cause shortness of breath).  Then diarrhea started.  Then my temperature went up to 101.5 while my blood pressure dropped as low as 69/35.  Then soreness set in my neck and shoulders to the point I couldn't walk straight up and had to 'hunch over' to get some relief.  My wife has been my faithful 'caregiver' and she dropped me off in front of a doctor's office while she went to park the car.  On the way in she tripped over some uneven pavement and shattered her knee cap and broke her wrist.  She is fine except mostly immobile.  They did surgery the next day and kept her in the hospital for 5 days. Meanwhile, I was so sick with the side effects of Sutent, I couldn't even go see her in the hospital. She is home now and one of our friends knowing I don't cook, asked over the phone "who is doing the cooking?".  My wife's answer was "no one, we are living by the kindness of strangers".  We live in one of those 'active seniors' apartment complexes where you have to be 55+ to live here.  As word spread about our plight, those  good Texas neighbors started showing up at the door bringing cooked food.  When it started, I was still terribly ill from the Sutent and just the thought of food would set off a wave of nausea.  I stuffed food in the fridge until it filled up, then I filled the freezer until it ran out of room.  I couldn't turn down these kind people and tell them I had no more room for food after they had gone to all that trouble and expense, so I just kept taking it in while trying to stifle the nausea it was causing.  So, I've become the caregiver for both of us.  All these side effects set in over the weekend, but as soon as my oncologist's office opened on Monday I placed a call.  The nurse said she would talk to the doctor and call me back.  Time came for me to take the Sutent, so I took another one.  About an hour later, the nurse called and said to stop taking the Sutent immediately, and I'd just taken another one.  That night was the worst of all.  Fever, chills, etc.  By the next day as time went on without taking Sutent, the side effects slowly went away and I'm back to normal and can take care of my wife.  Her surgeon ordered 'home health care' which I didn't know existed, but apparently Medicare will pay for a nurse to come by a couple of times a week to check on her, and even sent the physical rehab people by our home to help her recover.  When our family doctor found out about our situation, he ordered home nursing for me too so I will be having a nurse stop in a couple of times a week to check on me.  Meanwhile, a friend in NC is driving to Texas to help us with the daily chores.  I've come to learn as I've had to do all the household things that a woman's work is never done. <grin>.  Oh yeah, they also are sending in a woman to help my wife bathe twice a week, and she is staying clean in between using 'baby wipes' (what a great invention).  In summary, things have been tough, but we've made it through the worst of it, and things are looking up.  I go see the oncologist next week and he says he will try cutting the Sutent back to 37.5 mg and see if I can tolerate that.  If not, we will switch to a different drug.  And all that food I stuffed in the fridge and freezer is coming in handy now.  Best regards,

Shotgun

 

RE: HOW WILL DEATH OCCUR?

by Deb_Blair on Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:00 AM

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My husband last July 2008 was diagnosised with RCC and had his right kidney removed only to discover that the cancer had metasis to his lungs.  He has choosen not to take any medication as quality of life is the most important thing to him.  Yes, he is up and about and our year has been as normal as we could make it living each day with this knowledge.  Our case is very hard as he refuses to have CT scans or other test to see how or if the cancer has grown this past year.  Do know that now he has a cough and decrease engery. 

When and how he or you will die is not an easy answer.  As a nurse I have seen several cancer patients die in different ways, but can tell you if it is decrease breathing there are medications that they can place on your chest to make you comfortable. 

I truly wish you the very best and I don't believe that anyone but God can tell you how long.

Deb

RE: HOW WILL DEATH OCCUR?

by chriskev on Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:00 AM

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I am a strong beliver in the dr's aren't god you have to fight i have a theory as long as ther is breath there is hope as long as there i hope there is life i lost my husband 7/9/09 and i thought i would never say those words again until iread what you wrote have faith believe and most of all prove the dr's wrong for yourself and for all uf u out there tat aregoing through this or lost somebody through this......good luck my prayers to you and your family

RE: HOW WILL DEATH OCCUR?

by Trishpm on Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:00 AM

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There is an email support list for kidney cancer.  See http://cancerguide.org/kofaq/ .

RE: HOW WILL DEATH OCCUR?

by Geri28 on Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:00 AM

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I will also tell you to fight this as hard and as long as you can, but in answer to the question you asked. Death will usually come from the cancer using up all yor fat and lean muscle to grow. You can get an overwhelming infection from low blood counts or the disease could cause a heart attact or stoke. The treatments also have many side effects that can cause death, blood clots, destruction of blood cells, strokes. My Mom fough tas hard and tried every treatment available as did so many on this board. If fighting and enduring and wanting to live was all that was needed no one would lose this battle. Sometimes the cancer just does not responds to any of the treatments.

RE: HOW WILL DEATH OCCUR?

by Shotgun on Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:00 AM

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On 8/27/2009 Geri28 wrote:

I will also tell you to fight this as hard and as long as you can, but in answer to the question you asked. Death will usually come from the cancer using up all yor fat and lean muscle to grow. You can get an overwhelming infection from low blood counts or the disease could cause a heart attact or stoke. The treatments also have many side effects that can cause death, blood clots, destruction of blood cells, strokes. My Mom fough tas hard and tried every treatment available as did so many on this board. If fighting and enduring and wanting to live was all that was needed no one would lose this battle. Sometimes the cancer just does not responds to any of the treatments.
Thank you for your reply.  Since the tumor is in my lung, should I expect breathing to become more difficult with time (I also have COPD and CHF and have been on oxygen for quite some time before the cancer).  I also have diabetes.  Last week I had the first cat scan since diagnosis in mid June '09.  In spite of the Sutent, the tumor has grown 25% in those 2 1/2 months.  Any comments or thoughts?

 

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