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by Survivor2Be on Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:00 AM

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I had a total thyroidectomy done in November. Went into surgery thinking I had a goiter that was being removed. Came out of surgery and found out that without a doubt I had cancer. My thyroid was described to me at that time as being very atypical. It had broke the capsule of the thyroid and spread to my lymph nodes. I had been told that it was very sticky and difficult to remove. They also found papillary cancer nodules in the right side and in a lymph node. The thyroid itself was over 9cm when they removed it. (Close to an adult human heart size)

I underwent my RAI treatment in December. Other than no meds and then the week of being alone it really was not a bad procedure at all. I had been reassured over and over again that thyroid cancer was the cancer to have if you had to have one. The doctors all did tell that I would likely have to have a 2nd RAI treatment because of the amount of cancer found. The first treatment scan showed incredible uptake and everyone became very optimistic.

I did notice a little bit of swelling in my left side of my neck (where the vast majority of the thyroid enlargement was found) and mentioned it to my endo. He told me that he thought it was just scarring and inflammation. After changing endos about 8 weeks ago after a multitude of problems with the first one I mentioned it to her. She was concerned and after reviewing my pathology reports even more concerned. She changed my meds and scheduled for my 6mos follow up scan using thyrogen this time around and a follow up visit with ultrasound to evaluate further pending my scan results. I was in her office 6 weeks later and much to my suprise and happiness my scan came back clean! I still had the swollen lymph node though so we did the ultrasound. She discovered a lesion in my thyroid bed and also the very enlarged lymph node. So the next step was to get a CT scan to evaluate it better. She prepared me at that time for possible surgical removal of the lymph node.

CT scan results were available monday. Monday afternoon I got a phone call saying I needed to see a surgeon. She said she thought there was something severe and invasive going on but that she was out of her medical scope. She had already called the surgeon and they would be calling me. They called before I even got off the phone with her and I had an appt to see the surgeon the next day.

After doing a full exam and reviewing the CT images himself he has informed me that I have a very aggressive cancer in my throat area. He said that it would be his impression that it is thyroid cancer because it has grown back into the thyroid bed. It has also expanded so far up the left side of my neck that I will need a neck resection and then probably chemo and/or radiation following the surgery. He said that it will be an incredibly dangerous surgery because of my previous surgery and the amount of trauma to the area. I am terrified to say to the least. The incision will begin behind my left ear and come across the front of my neck (joining with my current incision) and then up the right side because there is a stage 2 tonsillary node. He was going to meet with a cancer board because also another couple of surgeons within the teaching hospital to see if he needs to remove more on the right side just to be cautious. This surgeon is one of the best of the best... easily one of the top in the states if not country. I have no doubt that I am in the best hands... but knowing that I may wake up with no voice and a trach scares me to death. He did say that best case scenrio would be coming out of surgery on calcium and vit e because my parathyroids that were saved in the previous surgery have no choice but to be removed this time around. He said the cancer is so aggressive that he has no choice but to be just as so with the surgery and then the treatment afterwards. The chemo and/or radiation will have to be done instead of RAI because the cancer does not absorb iodine evidenced by my clean scan.

Has anyone else been through anything like this? My surgery is scheduled for the first week of August and I am loosing it more and more each day. I have been trying to keep the best attitude and think positive as much as I can. I must admit that as each day gets closer I start to get more and more nervous and am doubting everything.

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by Hopeful30 on Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:00 AM

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I am so sorry to hear your story.   I have not been through something like that, but like you, my diagnosis is worse than what I was led to believe prior to surgery.

I was supposed to have a small papillary thyroid cancer.   After my surgery I learned that although it was still relatively small, 1.3cm, is was invasive and had minimal extrathyroidal extension and the surgical margin on the right side is not clean.

My surgeon tells me I will be fine.   My endo says I need aggressive treatment and I am terrified.   I thought this was supposed to be the "good" cancer, but I am afraid I will not be cured and will just keep having recurrences.

So I know how you fee....unfortunately, there is really nothing anyone can say to make either of us feel better.   It is good you have a good surgeon -- what area/city of the country are you in?

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by tink2002 on Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:00 AM

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Hopeful and Survivor......{{{Hugs}}} to you both!  I have no experience with anything this complicated, but you will both be in my prayers tonight....for a good outcome and for strength and peace of mind!  I'll be thinking of you both

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by Survivor2Be on Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:00 AM

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Hopeful... hopefully your treatment will go well and be uneventful and completely successful! No cancer is ever a good cancer to have has become my motto. My surgeon is located in VA at one of the teaching hospitals down around the coast area.

 Tink - Thank you for the prayers... I am taking all I can get!

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by Joyfull on Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:00 AM

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Me experience is nothing like yours,aged (so far, I am being re-staged right now) I just wanted to say that I have you in my prayers, my heart soooooo goes out to you.  Hang in there, keep being strong, God is with you.

 

 

Joy

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by milady on Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:00 AM

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On 7/6/2009 Joyfull wrote:

Me experience is nothing like yours,aged (so far, I am being re-staged right now) I just wanted to say that I have you in my prayers, my heart soooooo goes out to you.  Hang in there, keep being strong, God is with you.

 

 

Joy


Joy - what do you mean by you are being re-staged?

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by Joyfull on Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:00 AM

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My annual visit to the oncologist, right now prepping for my full body thyroid scan.  Have to do this for five years.

The oncologist calls this re-staging, I am guessing that if there is no new cancer, I will still be considered stage II, I do not know if you ever get a lower stage.

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by nybarb on Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:00 AM

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I wish I could help provide information & relief.  I will include you in my prayers, and I wish you calmness and confidence in a good outcome.

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by hornet on Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:00 AM

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On 7/4/2009 Survivor2Be wrote:

I had a total thyroidectomy done in November. Went into surgery thinking I had a goiter that was being removed. Came out of surgery and found out that without a doubt I had cancer. My thyroid was described to me at that time as being very atypical. It had broke the capsule of the thyroid and spread to my lymph nodes. I had been told that it was very sticky and difficult to remove. They also found papillary cancer nodules in the right side and in a lymph node. The thyroid itself was over 9cm when they removed it. (Close to an adult human heart size)

I underwent my RAI treatment in December. Other than no meds and then the week of being alone it really was not a bad procedure at all. I had been reassured over and over again that thyroid cancer was the cancer to have if you had to have one. The doctors all did tell that I would likely have to have a 2nd RAI treatment because of the amount of cancer found. The first treatment scan showed incredible uptake and everyone became very optimistic.

I did notice a little bit of swelling in my left side of my neck (where the vast majority of the thyroid enlargement was found) and mentioned it to my endo. He told me that he thought it was just scarring and inflammation. After changing endos about 8 weeks ago after a multitude of problems with the first one I mentioned it to her. She was concerned and after reviewing my pathology reports even more concerned. She changed my meds and scheduled for my 6mos follow up scan using thyrogen this time around and a follow up visit with ultrasound to evaluate further pending my scan results. I was in her office 6 weeks later and much to my suprise and happiness my scan came back clean! I still had the swollen lymph node though so we did the ultrasound. She discovered a lesion in my thyroid bed and also the very enlarged lymph node. So the next step was to get a CT scan to evaluate it better. She prepared me at that time for possible surgical removal of the lymph node.

CT scan results were available monday. Monday afternoon I got a phone call saying I needed to see a surgeon. She said she thought there was something severe and invasive going on but that she was out of her medical scope. She had already called the surgeon and they would be calling me. They called before I even got off the phone with her and I had an appt to see the surgeon the next day.

After doing a full exam and reviewing the CT images himself he has informed me that I have a very aggressive cancer in my throat area. He said that it would be his impression that it is thyroid cancer because it has grown back into the thyroid bed. It has also expanded so far up the left side of my neck that I will need a neck resection and then probably chemo and/or radiation following the surgery. He said that it will be an incredibly dangerous surgery because of my previous surgery and the amount of trauma to the area. I am terrified to say to the least. The incision will begin behind my left ear and come across the front of my neck (joining with my current incision) and then up the right side because there is a stage 2 tonsillary node. He was going to meet with a cancer board because also another couple of surgeons within the teaching hospital to see if he needs to remove more on the right side just to be cautious. This surgeon is one of the best of the best... easily one of the top in the states if not country. I have no doubt that I am in the best hands... but knowing that I may wake up with no voice and a trach scares me to death. He did say that best case scenrio would be coming out of surgery on calcium and vit e because my parathyroids that were saved in the previous surgery have no choice but to be removed this time around. He said the cancer is so aggressive that he has no choice but to be just as so with the surgery and then the treatment afterwards. The chemo and/or radiation will have to be done instead of RAI because the cancer does not absorb iodine evidenced by my clean scan.

Has anyone else been through anything like this? My surgery is scheduled for the first week of August and I am loosing it more and more each day. I have been trying to keep the best attitude and think positive as much as I can. I must admit that as each day gets closer I start to get more and more nervous and am doubting everything.

hello i also was diagnosed with thyroid cancer 06 had thyroid removed ral after then in 07 ultrasound showed 3 large tumors right side of neck had a radical neck dissection i can understand you being nervous my surgery lasted 11 hours 56 nodes removed only 11 positive for cancer my insision starts behind my ear goes down to my shoulder but also goes from my ear across to directly under my chin i had approx 40 staples  this is going to sound crazy but the worst part of recovery was that i had no fealing on the whole side of my head alittle pain that was well controlled i got the fealing back over time the scar isnt to bad you can tell when someone looks directly at me that theirs somthing different they also had to take out my juggular vein im now on 175 synthroid i do have alot of axiety moreso than before if you have any questions about the surgery dont hesitate to ask i will give it to you straight but again it wasnt all that bad  oh im 48 smoker female and was told from the begining its the best type of cancer to have  thank God for valium!!!!!    theresa

 

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by dinparadise on Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:00 AM

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Just shows you how important it is to have a good doctor.  I think we've all found that not all doctors are well versed in thyca even though they consider themselves specialists.  My situation is not nearly as critical as yours, but my condition was also ignored by my first endo.  My TG # was way off for 6-8 months.  My endo refused to do anything about it.  My gut told me to leave him.  Good thing I did.  We haven't found the source of the high number yet, but my new endo at the Cleveland Clinic immediately did a mapping ultrasound of my neck and a chest cat scan.  So far so good.  But now I have to go through RAI-131 ablation again which I wasn't prepared for.  I probably should have stayed with the first endo after he refused to do anything, but you always want to trust your doctor.  My endo feels good about everything since the ultrasound and cat scan came out negative, but obviously there are thyroid cells somewhere in my body.

Follow your gut and find the right doctor.  As I've always said...be your own best advocate.  Best of luck to you and we'll all be thinking of you!

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