Recurrence

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Recurrence

by Ronaldeug on Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:00 AM

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My recurrence after 7 years psa 0.1, then  Over 18 mos. 0.11,.018,0.20,0.23 and last week .30. My Doc says continue "watchful waiting??  PSA at dianosis( 7 years ago) Psa 7, Gleason7..Thanks, Ron

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by skidan on Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:00 AM

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On 7/17/2009 Ronaldeug wrote:

My recurrence after 7 years psa 0.1, then  Over 18 mos. 0.11,.018,0.20,0.23 and last week .30. My Doc says continue "watchful waiting??  PSA at dianosis( 7 years ago) Psa 7, Gleason7..Thanks, Ron

Ron,

  I am sorry to hear of your rising PSA. I have advanced prostate cancer and I dealt with my rising PSA with diet and supplements. It has been successful for 3 years. If you would like more information you can visit my web site at

www.alternativeprostatecancer.com

Dan

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by ohnoo on Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:00 AM

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Have you had a Free PSA test done?

The Free PSA test measures the proportion of "free" PSA to "bound" (to protein)  PSA in the total PSA in your blood sample.

Low Free PSA likely signals prostate cancer. Most men with prostate cancer have a free PSA below 15%.

If Free PSA is below 7%, prostrate cancer is most likely.  Mine was 11%, and I had cancer.

Combined with prostate volume, percent free PSA calculation helps reduce the number of biopsies based on "false positive" PSA test results. This may spare you an unnecessary biopsy.

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by Badmamazoo on Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:00 AM

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Ronald,

I'm kinda in the same boat. I don't think its absolutely dangerous if you watch and wait just a little bit longer but the question really is, what are you waiting for? Its obvious there is some cancer growing and its also obvious that a salvage treatment may be helpful. I think the days are over when one waits for the psa to approach 2.0 to do anything. Salvage treatments work best when the cancer is still small and hopefully still confined to the prostate area.

 To Ohnoooo,

I believe Ronald had surgery, judjing from where his psa was before 18 months ago. That being said, no prostate gland = no free psa. Free psa is the psa that  normally comes from healthy prostate gland tissue.

  

Joey

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by jcr65566 on Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:00 AM

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hi ohnoo over the last nine months Ive bene on holistic alterative treatment so  my free PSA come up from 4 to 8 and my psa come down from 13.8 to 8.2

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by Johnt on Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:00 AM

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Ron,

Your PSA doubling time doesn't warrent watchful waiting. Three year doubling time is the cutoff and yours is much greater than that. It's time to see a good prostate oncologist for a 2nd optiion. The faster you start a salvage treatment the more probable a cure.

JohnT

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by jcr65566 on Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:00 AM

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hi Jhont I have advanced prostrate cancer I once had it in my bones My ribs and my lower back in 2007 my doctor said I probabily had it a few years be for this time. So its way past the three years mark.  but I have improved so much, my doctors thought it would be a good idea if  I could get my prostratre taking out with and RP. so I seen a urolist and  I did  all the test he wanted me to do, over three months, and pass evey one of them. This is how we found out, my free psa had doubled from 4 to 8, and my normil psa has droped from 13.8 to 8.2. I feel great, also  My Chronic fatigue syndrome, or CFS, that Ive had for 18 years has even gotten better, if you  dont know what that is, My doctor said its a debilitating and complex disorder characterized by profound fatigue that is not improved by bed rest and that may be worsened by physical or mental activity. Also with my CFS most often my function were at a substantially lower level of activity than I was  capable of before the onset of illness. In addition to these key defining characteristics, I had  various nonspecific symptoms, including weakness, muscle pain, impaired memory and/or mental concentration, insomnia. But most of them are all gone now I feel grate. Ive been told by my doctor with my prosttrate cancer he was quite mad I did not go through with th RP he told me  I should have another biopsy but I realy feel that I should  just keep doing what Im doing because for me it worked out so well  it worked out so will. cheers Ray

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by Westerville on Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:00 AM

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Hi Ron,

 I have recurrance after being on off hormonal treatment for just 4 months.

Psa rose from <.01 to .01 to .02 to .04 to .06 to .04 to .07 to now .10

my doctor had put me on celebrex and bio curcumin plus diet and multiple supplements. He says I am on the point where it could go either way now and if it rises again I will probably go back on hormonal treatments. I am praying it goes back down. The idea that the more times you go on hormonal treatment the less effective it gets and the cancer finds a way to grow with out the testosterone. My psa was 1.8 at the highest so any small rise freaks me out.

You can check out my doctors website and get some information from him. http://www.prostateforum.com/

 keep being aggressive and not passive

John

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by Ronaldeug on Sat Aug 01, 2009 12:00 AM

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On 7/19/2009 Johnt wrote:

Ron,

Your PSA doubling time doesn't warrent watchful waiting. Three year doubling time is the cutoff and yours is much greater than that. It's time to see a good prostate oncologist for a 2nd optiion. The faster you start a salvage treatment the more probable a cure.

JohnT


 

Maybe some goosd news here? My last two (3 mos.intervals) were both 0.30. Stay with watchful waiting?

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by Ronaldeug on Sat Aug 01, 2009 12:00 AM

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Update, my last two PSA tests (3 month intervel) was both 0.30. Stay on watcful waiting?? Thanks, Ron
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