rising psa

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rising psa

by cancer_free_forever on Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:00 AM

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Post radical prost, & 33 treatments of radiation, psa again rising to now

20.5.  Am being told that there is no scientific evidence linking psa numbers

to risk of survival.  Welcome feedback/input. as I continue to watch &wait.

My next psa check is six months.       Thanks;   Duane

RE: rising psa

by ohnoo on Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:00 AM

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The Cleveland Clinic wrote this:

Predicting prostate cancer-specific mortality

The first research project looked at the death rate among prostate cancer survivors after radical prostatectomy, a procedure that surgically removes the prostate gland.

Post-surgery follow up typically includes prostate-specific antigen (PSA) screening to see if there is a recurrence. PSA is a protein produced by cells in the prostate gland. An elevated level in the blood usually is an indicator of cancer or other disorder. Radical prostatectomy patients usually are screened every three to six months for the first five years after surgery, and then annually after that to see if there is a recurrence of PSA.

But are PSA screenings the most accurate way to predict recurrence of cancer? Should they be the primary tool for counseling patients, making clinical decisions, and placing patients into clinical trials? The research found the answer to be “no.”

“Within 15 years of PSA recurrence, men are more likely to die from other causes than from prostate cancer. Clearly, using PSA recurrence as the principal way to assess treatment success or predict mortality is limited,” Dr. Kattan said.

As a result, the researchers created and validated a two-dimensional diagram designed to allow approximate computation called a nomogram that accurately predicts prostate cancer-specific mortality over 15 years. It includes a number of factors, not just PSA screenings.

“This predictive tool looks at more variables than just PSA recurrence and considers adverse clinical features. This more complete picture provides important and useful information for patients and physicians regarding treatment decisions for localized prostate cancer,” Dr. Kattan said. The research appeared in Journal of Clinical Oncology ( http://jco.ascopubs.org/ , published online July 27, 2009).

http://www.lerner.ccf.org/news/notations/2009/7/2.php

I hope this helps.

RE: rising psa

by jcr65566 on Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:00 AM

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On 7/30/2009 cancer free forever wrote:

Post radical prost, & 33 treatments of radiation, psa again rising to now

20.5.  Am being told that there is no scientific evidence linking psa numbers

to risk of survival.  Welcome feedback/input. as I continue to watch &wait.

My next psa check is six months.       Thanks;   Duane


 

hi Duane your PSA 20.5 so what are you doing now about it 

Cheers Ray  

RE: rising psa

by Johnt on Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:00 AM

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A small increase in PSA after surgery is not indicative, because sometimes it stops and stays at a very low level. A PSA of 20 after surgery is very indicative that that the cancer has matastized and is growing in other parts of your body. You have to see an oncologist and go on ADT3 immediately. It is recommended that HT be started af the PSA is over 2. The PC can be controlled for 10-15 years using HT.

JohnT

RE: rising psa

by jcr65566 on Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:00 AM

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Hi John T , you say "The PC can be controlled for 10-15 years using HT " In the cancer support group I'm in, only a few of the prostrate cancer patients, that I have talk to, Say they cant even stay on it for a few months,. not a lone 10 to 15 years. And the ones who have stayed on it, and put up with it, get the awfull side effects of it And also few of them had said it stopped working only after a couple of years. One patient had an Orchiectomy over seas he said (would you believe) it was be done as an outpatient procedure. (Ouchy, wo, wa). He said it dident last long as his PSA started to rise after three years. I though this is stange. as he said his testoserone leval is below 50, And now he want to see his doctor have him give him testosterone, as he said fe just so tird of the all the Low energy he has All the patient Ive talked to say they have the same as him , his mood swings he ened up in a few fist fights because of his irritability, he said he now has realy poor concentration, and though he in his 50s he has reduced muscle strength as it went down to, his doctor said he had to take Calcium and vitamin D3 to matain his bone density, but he said the worst one is his lack of interest in sex with his wife, we have been trying to talk him out of it, but he said he wants his life back Can I ask you Johnt do you know, has any one you know who has this androgen deficiency (cause by there hormone treatment) doing well on it and if any one you know if any members reading this can you let me know please I realy like to know I know of only one he about 78, he said he dosent notice it at all but he the only one I know of Take care and God blass you cheers Ray

  
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