Cancer Treatment Centers of America are in it for the money

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RE: Cancer Treatment Centers of America are in it for the money

by Medicocheck on Sat Dec 11, 2010 02:11 AM

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On Nov 21, 2009 4:37 AM mstanner wrote:

What a joke.  I was so disgusted after my experience With this phony scam.  We habe 2 insurances, but since the primary is a HMO, they had me on the phone fpr 1 hour, faxing all my personal information, insurance cards etc. We were so excited about some kind of hope, they didn't even have the courtesy to call us back and let us know tjey weren't interested, I guess if our credit report was good enough and we could mortgage the house for 200,000, maybe, I EVEN TRIED TO CALL THEM BACK, but the gentlemen never returns my calls. watch out they are all about the bucks.

Hi All

The Cancer Centre for America is a total scam, I invite them to Sue me for defamation, my name is John Bradley esq., and I can be contacted through here.

There is no cure for Pancreatic Cancer, if there was, a lot of people would still be alive. However, unfortunately they are dead. The lady on the TV commercial Peggy Kessler, was probably cancer free to begin with., or is an actress. If not it was a miracle, and I have not seen any of those these days, especially in that the world  at this time, is full of devastation and I am sure othat if there is a God, there are more important things to make a miracle for.

JB

RE: Cancer Treatment Centers of America are in it for the money

by Foxchaser on Tue Jan 04, 2011 04:13 AM

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In 2006 I was DX with colon cancer. Scary time for both me and my family. I went to our local Oncology practice for my first chemo treatment and told my husband " if I have to have my treatments here I know I'm going to die". I don't really know why I chose to get a second opinion at CTCA in Philadelphia I just had a good feeling about them after my telephone contact. They offered me exactly the same chemo protocols  I was getting at home. What was different was that my treatment team gave me hope. They treated me with a  respect and kindness that I hadn't gotten in the other setting. At CTCA I am a  valued person....not just another person with cancer. Did they give me a cure? No. I am not cancer free today. Did they help heal me? Without question. My quality of life is great, in no small part due to the wonderful care I have received from all the people at CTCA. I fully expect to be around a long,long time. So far so good! Yeah....nobody is paying me to say nice things about CTCA. But really ....you should talk to someone who has been treated there before you make such harsh assumptions . I have made some great friends at CTCA over the years and plenty of us are stage IV and still around to love and encourage one another. True enough, have lost more than a couple of friends too. Having been around the cancer block a time or two I have heard good and bad about most all the major cancer centers in the US. Shop around and find one that fits. Its your life. I continue to recommend CTCA. All the best in the New Year. Much love and peace. Audrey

RE: Cancer Treatment Centers of America are in it for the money

by dorne on Mon Jan 10, 2011 02:59 AM

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On Sep 04, 2010 8:10 PM HthrRenee wrote:

On Aug 31, 2010 2:41 AM dorne wrote:

I  live in southern Mn.  but this is such a frustrating cancer so few know anything about it and there is little to none research being done on it. To few of us and any that are done wont take stage 3-4 . So I would go anywhere I felt comfortable and trust and each person needs to determine that for himself

You are right - it is extremely frustrating.  I've found it near impossible to find someone who matches my brother's diagnosis (Grade III Oligodendroglioma).  Every single case is truly unique and I find that aggravating.  Even the docs mentioned they just don't see many like him because it isn't as common.  Thankfully, his responds well to treatment.

We moved him to Houston where I've lived for years and had no trouble getting into M.D. Anderson.  Have you tried them yet?  I realize it is very far from MN, but they have many, many programs to assist with the transportation and cost of care.

you have to live in Texas if not even the Houston area? for 6 months before you can become eligible for aid. But ince you are eligible and approved it seems they have a lot of ways to help out!

RE: Cancer Treatment Centers of America are in it for the money

by dorne on Mon Jan 10, 2011 03:14 AM

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On Dec 11, 2010 2:11 AM Medicocheck wrote:

On Nov 21, 2009 4:37 AM mstanner wrote:

What a joke.  I was so disgusted after my experience With this phony scam.  We habe 2 insurances, but since the primary is a HMO, they had me on the phone fpr 1 hour, faxing all my personal information, insurance cards etc. We were so excited about some kind of hope, they didn't even have the courtesy to call us back and let us know tjey weren't interested, I guess if our credit report was good enough and we could mortgage the house for 200,000, maybe, I EVEN TRIED TO CALL THEM BACK, but the gentlemen never returns my calls. watch out they are all about the bucks.

Hi All

The Cancer Centre for America is a total scam, I invite them to Sue me for defamation, my name is John Bradley esq., and I can be contacted through here.

There is no cure for Pancreatic Cancer, if there was, a lot of people would still be alive. However, unfortunately they are dead. The lady on the TV commercial Peggy Kessler, was probably cancer free to begin with., or is an actress. If not it was a miracle, and I have not seen any of those these days, especially in that the world  at this time, is full of devastation and I am sure othat if there is a God, there are more important things to make a miracle for.

JB

did they say they had cured her? No they didn't did she get help where others said there was no point she was dying anyway? Yes. I have listened over and over and do I hear "Lord almighty  Shes Cured !!" NO  was she given more time ...maybe but what do you judge that against? She is possibly in remmision or just getting better results because they at least are trying to keep her alive and giving loving support.

So jbesq. have you gone thru the  hospital...as a patient?....caregiver?.... or just wanted to find out for yourself what they offer?  I assume not or you would have produced at least one sentence that might and I say MIGHT have passed as an intelligent opionion.

And JB you say "if "? there is a God leading readers to the belief YOU DON'T BELIEVE   sooooo tell me how is it you know what God considers important enough to bother with?

If you just need to truth check commercials  stick to McDonalds where we all know the Big Mac is never as big as they show on TV

and you can contact me also

I forgot to mention I am a patient with Stage IV Thymic Carcinoma and the kindness, comfort and support mean a lot. FYI (to save you trying to look it up) it is rare it is terminal 

RE: Cancer Treatment Centers of America are in it for the money

by dorne on Mon Jan 10, 2011 03:26 AM

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On Apr 07, 2010 11:38 PM Medicocheck wrote:

On Aug 12, 2009 12:00 AM Rocketman wrote:

I called to get help for my father who is dying from brain cancer.  The person I talked to told me that since he has Medicare, it would cost too much money for him to go there.  She was rude and un caring - nothing like those fake commercials they have on television.  Has anyone else had that experience?

This company is an absolute fraud. There is no known cure for Panreatic Cancer, don't you think that all of the very high profile people who have died of this terrible disease would have gone there, including my business partner a well known BBC America Writer. They shoud be ashamed and the FDA should check them out.

John B.

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They can sue me if they wish?

So where did your business partner end up being treated? Was he offered any treatments that are not offered at most cancer centers? If the CTCA did claim they could CURE Pancreatic cancer why is it you think it would be only for the "very high profile people" even us lowly people with a brain but no esq. would be breaking the doors down.

I am sorry your friend died but maybe you should be angry because he wasn't surrounded at teh end with people who will always be there with compassion and support even when the time has come to stop treatments

Erin

do you want to be sued? So far you haven't said much and have offered no proof of claims

RE: Cancer Treatment Centers of America are in it for the money

by dorne on Mon Jan 10, 2011 03:28 AM

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I had just checked for a friend with Bladder Cancer but if I am wrong? Hthrrenee? please let me know may be an option as I know quite a few Thymic people do go there

RE: Cancer Treatment Centers of America are in it for the money

by Dlynn1210 on Mon Jan 10, 2011 05:10 PM

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Erin

Every once in a while, I read on Cancer Compass how someone is angry at Cancer Treatment Center of America because CTCA was unable to treat their loved one OR stating they are a scam OR someone was nasty to them.  For those of us who have been there - done that - we know the truth and are sad that these false accusations may prevent someone from seeking treatment at a truly wonderful facility.  I was a patient treated in Zion, IL in 2007 and as a result I am now cancer free.  They don't promise miracles - what they tell you is that they are there for the fight and won't give up on you.  Their motto is "If God didn't give you an expiration date, then why should we."  I met several people while undergoing treatment who had been told by a doctor in their home towns that there was nothing that could be done.  I met one man who had reoccurrence of pancreatic cancer and it had spread by the time his treatment center took notice of the markers in his blood work.  They told him he wouldn't live to see Christmas (it was late July 2007) so he and his wife came to CTCA.  Sadly, Dan did lose his battle in 2010 but he was able to spend three Christmas' with his family and be at a son's wedding.  This was totally attributable to the doctors and medical personnel at CTCA.      

For those who haven't had personal "hands on" experience with Cancer Treatment Center of America, I would like to give you an insight.  I remember walking into the CTCA 3 1/2 years ago scared and bewildered (I had been diagnosed with cancer of the tonsil at another hospital).  A medical oncologist at the first facility had said that other than having cancer I was in great shape.  I questioned how I could be in great shape if I had cancer.  I remember well the "business like atmosphere" as I went for tests after tests.  After seeing TV ads, my husband and I decided to go to CTCA for a second opinion.  We called and before making an appointment they did check out our insurance.  For those who are critical of CTCA for requiring you to have acceptable insurance, my husband is having surgery for a herniated disc tomorrow morning.  The first thing he was asked for as he entered the doctor's office was his insurance card.  We had only been home a short time after seeing the doctor before we received a phone call from the hospital asking for insurance information.  I guarantee you that if we had not had insurance, my husband wouldn't be having surgery tomorrow morning at this hospital.  I spent the entire morning today making sure that it is in network.  We are not used to this as CTCA handled all our insurance matters which was a blessing.      

The primary differences between the facility where I was diagnosed and CTCA were the methods of administering the radiation and the type of machine to administer it.  CTCA suggested split radiation therapy 

http://www.ajronline.org/cgi/content/abstract/126/1/116

to lessen the effects of radiation.  When I mentioned it to my ENT, she had never heard of it and the first treatment center never mentioned it.  CTCA also stated they were going to use a type of radiation called TOMO therapy which was more precise in targeting the exact location of the tonsil and would aid in salvaging some of my salivary glands. 

Both treatment centers had recommended similar treatment plans - 7 weeks of radiation and 5 weeks of chemo therapy -  so why did we choose CTCA?  I did my research and what I read about split radiation therapy made sense - splitting up the amount of radiation into two treatments a day lessened the effects (CTCA never said it would be more effective - only lessened the effects).  I also discovered out that another hospital in an adjoining state had both types of machines for administering radiation (CTCA did as well but the first center did not have TOMO).   I called and asked to speak to the head of their radiology department.  I explained what type of cancer I had and asked if it were her, which machine would she want used.  For head and neck cancers, she said the TOMO was more precise for my type of cancer.  For two other types of cancers (lung cancer was one), as the lungs move she would want the other type.  The first treatment center was only 9 miles from our home.  CTCA was 85 miles one way from us which required us to stay in a motel from Mon - Fri due to two radiations a day.  Later I wasn't even well enough to make the short trip home on the weekends.  The deciding factor to go to CTCA for treatment was due to the way my husband and I were treated.  I wasn't mistreated at the first facility (rather like a stranger with cancer) but I was treated like someone they truly cared about at CTCA (like family - how you need to be treated).  What you see on TV is exactly what you get.  I go back for my yearly checkups and while I don't focus on a reoccurrence, the possibility is at the center of my thoughts close to time for my checkup.  When I walk in the doors of CTCA it is comforting to know that "What if the cancer is back" turns into "It is back", CTCA will be ready for the fight and right there with me every step of the way - all the way from the man who stands out in front of their center waiting to park your car to the doctor whose medical expertise saves many lives.  It feels like returning home and being wrapped in loving arms.  They have a program with postcards accessible throughout the treatment center.  It shows a purple fish and reads "You've been caught".  When an employee is "caught" doing something nice - beyond their normal duties - you write them up.  I wrote up a cafeteria worker after a really bad day.  I was in the cafeteria - not to eat as I had a feeding tube - but because it was such a "warm" comforting room.  I was sitting at a table with my head on the table as I was so nauseous.  My husband was on a business trip and I felt so totally alone - I felt an arm go around my shoulders.  It was a woman that generally stood behind the counter dishing up the food you requested.  She asked how I was doing and if there was anything she could do for me.  I was too sick to do anything but shake my head; however, I went back weeks later to tell her how much her kindness that day meant to me.  She was only one of many who were there with words of comfort or a hug during a really rough period but one I got through with their help.       

Diana 

RE: Cancer Treatment Centers of America are in it for the money

by Dlynn1210 on Mon Jan 10, 2011 05:16 PM

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I have one additional comment - for those who are complaining about Cancer Treatment Centers of America - and ready to be sued - do you have any idea who funds this website?  If not, it is the Cancer Treatment Centers of America but yet they let your nonsense post on the website they have sponsored to allow patients to interact with other patients.  The founder of CTCA started his first facility after losing a mother he loved dearly to cancer.  He thought cancer patients AND their caregivers deserved better and set out to do so.  He has done just that - created an environment of family for those fighting the battle for their lives.   

RE: Cancer Treatment Centers of America are in it for the money

by dorne on Fri Jan 14, 2011 01:10 AM

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On Jan 10, 2011 5:16 PM Dlynn1210 wrote:

I have one additional comment - for those who are complaining about Cancer Treatment Centers of America - and ready to be sued - do you have any idea who funds this website?  If not, it is the Cancer Treatment Centers of America but yet they let your nonsense post on the website they have sponsored to allow patients to interact with other patients.  The founder of CTCA started his first facility after losing a mother he loved dearly to cancer.  He thought cancer patients AND their caregivers deserved better and set out to do so.  He has done just that - created an environment of family for those fighting the battle for their lives.   

I couldn't have said it better!

RE: Cancer Treatment Centers of America are in it for the money

by jchurchwell7 on Fri Jan 14, 2011 01:33 AM

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My mom is being treated for stage 4 Renal Cell Carcinoma with sarcomatoid features. Look it up, it is scary!! My parents live in Atlanta and were told when she was diagnosed that it would be at least 3 weeks before they could even get to her file at Emory in Atlanta where we were referred. My husband is a doctor and he recommended that we try the Cancer Treatment Center in Chicago. I live in OH so I decided to contact them. I was so surprised with how fast they were able to get her up there and in to surgery to remove her kidney. My mom was 3 weeks post op when Emory finally called. 3 weeks means a lot when it comes to the kind of cancer my mom has which can double in less than 3 months (very aggressive) 

I won't lie, my mom has great insurance..but I spoke to husband about all that I have seen about people being upset about not being treated there bc of their insurance. He said, they are a good hospital bc hey have good money coming in. They are able to treat the patients the way they need to be treated bc the patients insurance will pay for it. Who do you want to pay for it? The doctors? Good luck!! My husband wouldn't have a job if that was the case. Insurance companies control what doctors can do..just so everyone knows that.

Also, my mom asked how much time she has and they said that she should set goals for the future and work toward those goals. I like that answer. 

I am truly sorry for those that have lost loved ones but I honestly don't think bashing a hospital and peoples hopes is a way to handle the situation. God Bless!!

JChurchwell

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