Does The Prostate Exam Increase The Danger of Prostate Cancer?

A prostrate exam is recommended these days for all men over 40 to check for prostate cancer. But, is it really necessary? Or, just another medical revenue source?

This is why I want to ask the quesion ! Does The Prostate Exam Increase The Danger of Prostate Cancer? I was talking to my uro a while a go he a freand of mine by the way. I ask the quesion can the prostrate exams and the treatment them self spread cancer into our blood streem and through out our body. he said no it cant.

the reasion Im asking this is in my case I know in 1998 I had a PSA of 3.4 and since 1998 In 2007 I had a psa of just 4 But after a rectile exam and a biopsy my PSA went up to 6 a few month later then 8 it was then I felt and I found I had the start of prostrate bone mets it got worst after this I ened up months later on pain meds unable to sleep

A while a go I dont know if this is was true or not but with what Ive read latly I feel it is may be true. but thats my pesionol oppinion I want an others apinion on this.  that if you are diagnose with prostrate cancer dos the exams and the treatment we have to go though them self spread cancer and make things worse. for us  I remember reading just the rectile exame can push cancer cell in to our blood streem  then theres the biopsy pushing through tumors may spread tinie micro tumor of the prostrate cancer through out body I found an artical on the treatment

http://www.prostate-massage-and-health.com/prostate-exam.htm

If during your prostate exam your doctor does feel a lump or irregularity, he will immediately call for a PSA test to see if you possibly have prostate cancer. If everything feels OK, he'll ask you to have a PSA test anyway, because they like to run the test.

The problem with a PSA test is that a PSA test really has no significance or validity. The medical community themselves attest to this. They just love to run it. The simple prostate exam is actually more revealing.

PSA test levels alone do not give doctors enough information to distinguish between benign prostate conditions and cancer. So why do it?

A PSA test can give a false positive, a false negative, or a high reading for a number of reasons other than prostate cancer. Reasons such as: benign prostate enlargement (BPH) , inflammation, prostate infection, a urinary tract infection, age, and race.

Age is the most common risk factor for prostate cancer. Almost 70 percent of prostate cancer occurs in men age 65 and older. {ref: Ries LAG, Eisner MP, Kosary CL, et al. (eds). SEER Cancer Statistics Review, 1975–2001, National Cancer Institute. Bethesda, MD, 2004 (http://seer.cancer.gov/csr/1975_2001 ).}

But, age itself is not toxic. Age itself does not cause cancer of any kind. Ever. More age simply means a man had more time to poison and break his immune systems down. The man had more time to chip away at his immune system with toxic living.

Also, "Even though the PSA test can detect small tumors, finding a small tumor does not necessarily reduce a man’s chance of dying from prostate cancer." {ref: National Cancer Institute } So, why subject yourself to such a bogus test that serves only to frighten you?}

Most men with an elevated PSA test turn out not to have cancer; only 25 to 30 percent of men who have a biopsy due to elevated PSA levels actually have prostate cancer . { ref:: Keetch DW, Catalona WJ, Smith DS. Serial prostatic biopsies in men with persistently elevated serum prostate specific antigen values. The Journal of Urology 1994; 151(6):1571–1574.}

The PSA test may detect small cancers that would never become life threatening. This situation, called overdiagnosis, puts men at risk for complications from unnecessary treatment such as surgery or radiation. This happens all the time.

Also a negative prostate exam (normal feeling prostate) and positive PSA test (no matter what caused the high reading) will lead to a prostate biopsy.

A PSA test will lead to a medical recommendation for a prostate biopsy. The procedure used to diagnose prostate cancer (prostate biopsy) may cause many side effects. Bleeding and infection are the least of these.

The worst danger with a prostate biopsy is this: if there actually is prostate cancer, the prostate biopsy is the most effective way to spread the cancer by releasing otherwise contained cancer cells into the blood stream.

Also the biopsy (done with a needle) can, and often does, miss the area with cancer. So the biopsy falsely comes up negative.

Most prostate cancer is slow growing, contained, and not life threatening. Most old men that die with undiagnosed prostate cancer, never knew they had it and it never caused them a problem. Even if they had it for 20-30 years.

Most older men with prostate cancer are never actually bothered or threatened by it. They usually eventually die of some other cause.

The prostate exam and PSA test, more often than not, seem to cause a lot of unnecessary worry.

For the men with fast growing prostate cancer here are the statistics:

• The survival rate for those who underwent surgery, radiation and chemo therapy is no greater after 10 years than for those who did nothing at all. It's a fact.

   

  • The greatest amount of new prostate cancers is found in men who underwent surgery, radiation and chemotherapy and have past the 5 year survival mark.

• The greatest amount of new prostate cancers is found in men who underwent surgery, radiation and chemotherapy and have past the 5 year survival mark.

The reason for this is that you just do not make a body healthy by poisoning it. Ever. You may kill the present cancer cells, but cancer will just come back even stronger because the body is weaker and even more compromised.

Prostate cancer treatment may also cause incontinence (inability to control urine flow) and erectile dysfunction (erections inadequate for intercourse). For these reasons, it is important that the benefits and risks of diagnostic procedures and treatment be taken into account when considering whether to undertake prostate cancer screening.

If cancer exists, you must consider this:

Cancer is a condition of the entire body. If you just cut it out, or burn it out, or poison it to death, it will almost always come back. Almost always. Your chances are better on the lottery.

Cancer is caused. It does not just happen.

Lifestyle and environmental pollution cause cancer. If you clean up and normalize your internal environment, your body will clean up and heal itself. People do this successfully year after year. It is not highly publicized because there is no profit to be made from doing it.

Learn about the results of The Primitive Diet and the works of six time Nobel Award Nominated doctor Johanna Budwig. You can learn how to achieve real health and banish all disease from your life.

Probably not every year. Maybe not at all. It doesn't hurt to know what is going on inside.

But, should you worry about the results of all these exams and tests if the procedures that follow put you at a possibly greater risk of dying?

We must learn to be responsible for our own health and well being. The weakest link fails first. In men this weakest link is often found during a prostate exam.

Take care of your health now. From this day forward. Then, a prostate exam will just become another meaningless exam.

Remember, there is no pill or drug that will ever compensate for a lifetime of abuse or negligence.

A prostate exam, in my opinion, is possibly interesting. It can be a wake up call about your general health. But, it can also lead you down a road that could cause you more harm than good.

Be Well.....

William

 There is absolutely NO evidence that a biopsy or a DRE spreads Prostate Cancer.

All men over 40 should get a psa test and a DRE. If abnormal they should get a free psa and a PCA3 test. If these are abnormal then a biopsy is needed. Men with a family history or African American should get tested at 35. If psa is less than 1 then yearly tests are not needed.

PC is very curable if caught early.

This is the advice of all Prostate Cancer advocacy groups and major research organizations.

Catch it early. GET TESTED.

JohnT

hi johnt I agree with Catch it early. it the get it tested part Im concerned about but firstly I cant understand why those uro doctors seen me all they did is cost me a lot of time and money and make me wast the limited time I had what I want to ask you  you say! "There is absolutely NO evidence that a biopsy or a DRE spreads Prostate Cancer."  I agre there no evidance that can be found but Ive only found a bit of evidence as to why I just cant undestand why it happen to me it looks to me it would be easy to push tiney miney turmors into the blood streem in side the prostate   what do you think Ray

I had no symptoms  NONE no swellin or sorenes 51 years old

I had a general health and blood test by my doctor

My original PSA was 12  I rode bicycles so he told me to stop

4 weeks later my PSA was 9.6  I was sent to a urologist who did the biopsies 12 in all.  I had cancer in 11 and average gleason score of 6 so it most likely is outside the prostate. today I went through a bone scan and will find out later. Mine is not the aggresive small cell type and if you read the worst type doesn't affect your PSA so you have less chance to fight.  I blieve not only should you have a PSA test when your 40 but pay attetion. It can give you options not available to me, like one of several types of surgeries.  According to what I have read, if I do nothing I might have 3 good years that then as the tumors in the bones swell breaking the bones things get much worse. Death in 5.  People who are using theapy are living longer some on line are over 8 years   My doctor told me he has 1 patient who has been treated now for 15 years and going strong.

On 8/18/2009 TerryH wrote:

I had no symptoms  NONE no swellin or sorenes 51 years old

I had a general health and blood test by my doctor

My original PSA was 12  I rode bicycles so he told me to stop

4 weeks later my PSA was 9.6  I was sent to a urologist who did the biopsies 12 in all.  I had cancer in 11 and average gleason score of 6 so it most likely is outside the prostate. today I went through a bone scan and will find out later. Mine is not the aggresive small cell type and if you read the worst type doesn't affect your PSA so you have less chance to fight.  I blieve not only should you have a PSA test when your 40 but pay attetion. It can give you options not available to me, like one of several types of surgeries.  According to what I have read, if I do nothing I might have 3 good years that then as the tumors in the bones swell breaking the bones things get much worse. Death in 5.  People who are using theapy are living longer some on line are over 8 years   My doctor told me he has 1 patient who has been treated now for 15 years and going strong.

Hi TerryH you have, what I have, and are now going though, this Painfully, despair generating, financial crippling, and emotionally draining, disease called prostate cancer my heart go's out to you, in you post you said

"According to what I have read, if I do nothing I might have 3 good years that then as the tumors in the bones swell breaking the bones things get much worse. Death in 5. People who are using therapy are living longer some on line are over 8 years My doctor told me he has 1 patient who has been treated now for 15 years and going strong"

Well gess what I had prostrate bone met's in my lower back and my ribs and I agree boy was ever pain full, I'm fairly sure what my naturopath put me on fix it up though liquid Cellular Zeolite, 15 drips 4 times a day for three months about the same time, I was having 6 grams a day of vitamin C and Zinc. A year later a bone scan found no bone cancer, But I still have the prostrate cancer.You mention the patient 15 years and going strong! A 70+ man in our cancer support group, he told us, all he ever use is the no sugar low carb diet, and high dose of ant-oxidants vitamin and minerals supplements, he said he has know he has had prostate cancer for 11 years, he went to the doctor because his pinis was hurting. He explained to us he try to get treatment, but he didn't have enough money at the time. His PSA stayed around the 6 to 8 mark he said it go's low in winter and higher in summer he dos not know why. hes in no pain at the moment What I'm wondering is for meny thousand of years our ancestors have gone on to, a ripe old age, and finly died, and they didn't even know they had prostrate cancer, acouing to cancer tutor all the treatment men are haveing now has not change the death % rate from prostrate cancer in fact it made the % rate go up even higher. so it look like to me it made it worst.

God bless, and take care Ray.