tempted to refurse all drugs

I am to see an oncologist monday and after reading all the blogs on tamoxifen,femara,etc  I have made a decision to not take anything.  Is it worth it to take drugs that cause ovarian cancer and are known as a poison? I've had surgery for breast cancer and a re-excision and the radiation oncologist told me I would not even need radiation but that I should see the oncologist and take the meds.   Not after what I've read and a friend of mine is in pharmacuetical sales and has told me about all the horrible side effects, its just not worth it.   So if you take this garbage and you don't have breast cancer again and you get ovarian cancer and feel horrible all the time, it just makes no sense. One person I know about, has been following a diet and has been in remission (without any pills/or pain) for 9 years now.        Has anyone out there done diet alone?   If so, please let me know, I would appreciate any feed back.   ookie 

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Dear Ookie,  I had breast cancer 8years ago,  I  took Tamoxifen, then Arimadex,  I also had side effects of course anything that can fight CANCER is going to have some sort, If you look back letters on sweats and see my name you can check that i to complained, but I am still here and would rather take my chances with than without drugs or poisens if you want to call it that, There is no cure but THEY  keep us here a lot longer these days. and I am all for that, I dont say I am right but this is my choice. good luck to you no matter what you decide.

whatever you decide should be entirely up to you...it is your body it should be your choice.  best of the world to you.

it is totally your choice   however i've been on taxotere, then tykerb and zeloda then my metastisized liver tumors from my stage4 breast cancer started to give me hellasious pain. so they put me on gemzar it kicks my butt 2 days after 4 about 2-3 days but i am comfortable and not in pain because that is where i draw the line. i suppose it is working because the pain went right away soon i will get another scan with my fingers crossed i consider myself 2 be on a lifelong maintenance program and am ever so grateful they have the meds 4 me  best wishes to you i have an uncanny ability to ignore the negativity and go on like it is what it is and is oin Gods hands

 

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it is totally your choice   however i've been on taxotere, then tykerb and zeloda then my metastisized liver tumors from my stage4 breast cancer started to give me hellasious pain. so they put me on gemzar it kicks my butt 2 days after 4 about 2-3 days but i am comfortable and not in pain because that is where i draw the line. i suppose it is working because the pain went right away soon i will get another scan with my fingers crossed i consider myself 2 be on a lifelong maintenance program and am ever so grateful they have the meds 4 me  best wishes to you i have an uncanny ability to ignore the negativity and go on like it is what it is and is oin Gods hands

I agree with you that it is all in Gods hands and I hope that your scan comes out okay.   I haven't yet talked to the doctor as the appointment is tomorrow, but I like to be informed about what the drugs are and the side effects.  A dear friend had breast cancer and went onto the meds and then developed ovarian cancer and is doing very poorly.   The doctors said it was from Tamoxifen that caused the ovarian caner so it is something to think about.  I will just have to wait and see what the doctor says.   I am still wondering if anyone has just followed a very strict anti-cancer diet.  I think Suzanne Summers who had breast cancer surgery 9 years ago went onto a anti-cancer diet and apparently doing okay.  Well, it is an individual decision for all of us.   I wish you well and thanks for responding.

 

Hi ookie I personally think you are very wise to have done some serious research before just blindly going ahead with the traditional treatments that will be offered to you. There is no doubt that the success rates of chemo and radiation are dismal to say the least and the quality of life while undergoing these treatments is very often intolerable.......... I am attaching some links to information about one particular natural product that has been proven over the years to be highly effective for a variety of cancers (especially breast and colon) and has no negative side effects. It is just one part of an alternative protocol that I have followed since my diagnosis of non Hodgkin's lymphoma in early 2004 at which time I was advised I would need the strongest chemo in order to "perhaps" save myself. I opted not to go that route and continue to feel strong and healthy now more than five years later. Of course there is no ONE magic bullet in dealing naturally with cancer. It's necessary to take into account what caused one's immune system to allow the cancer to get a foot hold in the first place.......I and many others that I personally know owe our successful outcomes to following a Regimen, which includes special diet, supplementation based on our own particular deficiencies and certain natural treatments such as intravenous vitamin C, low dose naltrexone, avemar, lypo-spheric vitamin c etc. etc..........If you're interested in learning more about the special regimen for detoxification and regeneration let me know and I'll gladly send along a copy. I also have lots of information on the other supplements and immune boosting products which my doctor so highly recomments and I'll gladly give you some links to information about them as well if you are interested.......For now, here is the information re Avemar which I think you will find helpful and hopeful for your situation.....................Following is a quote from ....... http://www.holisticcancersolutions.com/avemar_report.htm ............" If one reads carefully the scientific papers, it soon becomes clear that Avemar's anti-tumor and anti-metastasis capabilities do not depend, to any degree, on being supported by chemotherapy or radiation treatments. Quite the opposite. It can be strongly argued that such toxic treatments will neutralize the beneficial effects of Avemar. Of course, the new product had to play a submissive role to the official toxic protocols in order to be accepted by the medical establishment." ................. More information here: ........... http://www.avemarresearch.com/pdf/C-AvemarFAQ.pdf ............. http://www.npicenter.com/anm/templates/newsATemp.aspx?articl ................. Wishing you all the best! Sheila ______________________________________________________________

On 8/22/2009 ookie wrote:

I am to see an oncologist monday and after reading all the blogs on tamoxifen,femara,etc  I have made a decision to not take anything.  Is it worth it to take drugs that cause ovarian cancer and are known as a poison? I've had surgery for breast cancer and a re-excision and the radiation oncologist told me I would not even need radiation but that I should see the oncologist and take the meds.   Not after what I've read and a friend of mine is in pharmacuetical sales and has told me about all the horrible side effects, its just not worth it.   So if you take this garbage and you don't have breast cancer again and you get ovarian cancer and feel horrible all the time, it just makes no sense. One person I know about, has been following a diet and has been in remission (without any pills/or pain) for 9 years now.        Has anyone out there done diet alone?   If so, please let me know, I would appreciate any feed back.   ookie 

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It would depend on the staging of your cancer and nodal involvement if any as well as the type of your cancer. I was told to take the little pill (arimidex) for my stage 1- 3mm tubular carcinoma- no nodal involvement as well as radiation. I struggled with the decision- ultimately did rad. therapy prone for 16 days. The rad was delayed and I tried the little pill which gave me more trouble than I think it was worth as my risk was low for recurrence anyway. Someone at Fox Chase told me to do one or the other at least. The risk for osteoporosis and depression and insomnia was not worth the low rik I may have for recurrence. I went off the lttle pill and my doctors were comfortable with my decision. See the MO and see what he says. They told me it is more to decrease risk of new disease than recurrence for me. If you could forego rad. I think your chances for recurrence must be low but I am not a Doctor.

 

On 8/27/2009 Cancercured wrote:

It would depend on the staging of your cancer and nodal involvement if any as well as the type of your cancer. I was told to take the little pill (arimidex) for my stage 1- 3mm tubular carcinoma- no nodal involvement as well as radiation. I struggled with the decision- ultimately did rad. therapy prone for 16 days. The rad was delayed and I tried the little pill which gave me more trouble than I think it was worth as my risk was low for recurrence anyway. Someone at Fox Chase told me to do one or the other at least. The risk for osteoporosis and depression and insomnia was not worth the low rik I may have for recurrence. I went off the lttle pill and my doctors were comfortable with my decision. See the MO and see what he says. They told me it is more to decrease risk of new disease than recurrence for me. If you could forego rad. I think your chances for recurrence must be low but I am not a Doctor.

thanks for your input.  I have really been struggling with the decision to take or not.   Well, last nite on the news they were saying that TAMOXIFEN ,& all the other drugs  in that same category,raise your risk factor to 440% of getting cancer again!!!! So why would anyone take drugs that reduce your cancer returning by 50% and INCREASE YOUR RISK BY 440%.   Of course the pharmecutical company is going to say it is safe but then we are the dollar signs for them.   No, I will not take the 440% chance by taking that, or any other drugs.   Instead I will be doing alot of research and seeing what a good alternative would be.  So far, I have read that Oxford University had a study that indicates that women who do no have enough IODINE in their system seem to be much more likely to get breast cancaer.   So the next time I go our shopping (soon), I will be buying Iodine in the form of the kelp. The women in my adoptive family took kelp and not one of them had breast cancer.  I never really took it, as I always thought it was not necessary.  Now I am starting to think differently.  What is an MO doctor?  I have seen the Radiation oncologist and an oncologist.    I HOPE ALOT OF WOMEN SAW THE NEWS ABOUT TAMOXIFEN AND ALL THOSE TYPE OF DRUGS.  It sure helped me make my decision along with your input.   thanks ,ookie 

 

I have just recently had a double masectamy DCIS stage 1 with no Lympnodes affected. I too have decided not to take the drug Arimedex... because of all the side effects. I have chose to see a Naturalpath doc ... You can email me personally and I'll fill you in on more ..

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I think healing your body is the key to fighting anything. Cancer is an aweful diesease and the cure is even worse. My ex is going through chemo ,radiation, drugs and he has not been happy or healthy for two years now. So, no thank you ,... I'll take my chances with God and his strength to guide me along the right path.

 The drug scares the hell out of me ... Worse than the diagnoses did.   

I wish you the best and please keep me posted on what you decided . My prayers are with you. God Bless

I finished my trreatment for breast cancer in 2008.  I have been researching ever since.  I too refused Tamoxifen and have been looking for natural estrogen blockers ( google this). I take DIM and calcium-d-glucarate and many other things such as tumeric, iodine, selenium, mushroom and garlic supplements. also flaxseeds and flax oil.