But whether that's good or bad isn't yet clear
by Benny1947 on Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:00 AM
by alady on Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:00 AM
So, the Mexicans are better cared for than we are! and we think we are so hot...
Thank you so much for posting this info, I will save it, it will help many.
There's a doctor in Florida that says on his Facebook page that surgery and radiation will be in the Smithsonian when the word on HIFU is out. I'm doing my best to share the info, but I just got banned from Cancer Forums, they must be funded by the industry.
$13,000. is what we should be paying right here from US doctors, but now they have to pay to travel with a full American team to make us comfortable.
Please keep us updated!! congrads for being so smart!
by dymo2009 on Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:00 AM
by alady on Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:00 AM
It's $25,000. plus expenses of traveling to either Nassau or Puerto Vallarta to have an American very experienced doctor do it (Dr. Scionti), he has taught all the doctors to do it.
Ablatherm device most always requires a TURP (unless the gland is under 25cc), which is quite painful and can take months to recover from, and can cause scarring and incontinence, I'd prefer the Sonablate machine.
He had great outcome, I wonder if he had the TURP? If not his gland must have been under 25cc.
http://www.institutodeprostata.com/contacto.php is how you find his doctor, fill out the form and send it.
http://www.hifumx.com/patient_info_testimonials.htm this is Dr. Garcia, who lives and works in Puerto Vallarta. I met him as he is the attending physician with Dr. Scionti, he is a wonderful guy. He uses the Sonablate. Call him toll free at 888-814-0202 or fill this out and send it in for a quote: http://www.hifumx.com/faq.htm " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.hifumx.com/faq.htm
Here's a page full of facts, really good: http://www.hifumx.com/faq.htm " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.hifumx.com/faq.htm
by Benny1947 on Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:00 AM
by alady on Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:00 AM
Dr. Scionti is the most experienced in America with both machines, he learned on the Ablatherm. He prefers the Sonablate, but works with both and teaches HIFU to the clinical trial doctors using both. He uses the Sonablate in P.V. and Nassau.
The difference is the french made Ablatherm is robotic, the doctor sets the machine and it does the ablation.
While the USA made Sonablate is manual. The doctor clamps down the probe so there's no movement, then he watches as he moves the beam of light and destroys the tissue. If cancer is outside the gland he can destroy that as well. Cancer shows up as bright specks on the computer screen. If the gland spasms during treatment & moves then he can treat it.
Good description of both is found here, it's a independent charity web site on prostate cancer: http://www.prostate-cancer.org/education/novelthr/Chinn_Tran
I could post many clinical trials, the doctors involved is the most important factor. The doctors in clinical trials don't have the experience that doctors do in the real world.
by ohnoo on Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:00 AM
comparing both devices:
most recent clinical trial from England:
For me, a very important fact is: if ED occurs Cialis works.
by GregPatt on Sun Oct 25, 2009 04:59 AM
I have diagnosed with prostate cancer early stage and am in the process of making my decision after much research of the options. I am happy to have found this site and read the great comments. The HIFU Sonablate 500 is definately what I am heading to. Have spoken to Dr. Scionti's office and am a good candidate. Thank you for all the great info.
I just went into the www.can-am-hifu.com site and realized they are part of the entity from Charlotte, NC doing the surgeries in Toronto (as does HIFU Maple Leaf who uses Alblatherm that I've decided against) Does any one know what their cost is compared to Dr. Scionti's that are done in Nassau or Puerto Vallarta and what kind of reviews they have and worth considering? Also know if anyone has had Dr. Garcia in PV as mentioned one message?
by alady on Thu Oct 29, 2009 03:23 PM
I just heard from a friend who was HIFUed by Dr. Scionti a month ago, all is perfect with him.
However, there were 2 others there who were treated by other doctors, they are both having some little problems, one is swollen so he cannot pee, the other has blood in his urine. I would think this is because of the doctor's ability.
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