Poly-Mva Supplement

Anyone heard of a new supplement with cancer curing qualities called POLY-MVA I am interested in it, it is rather expensive $200 plus per bottle and have heard some rather fansinating results, amittedly I am in the beginning stages of researching this supplement, any info is helpful thanks Tony

There's very little published research on PolyMVA. Only anecdotal evidence. But I know of two people who say they feel very good on it. I'm sure you are aware that there are many other better-researched and documented options. You could have a look at www.self-helpcancer.info for a brief review of PolyMVA and other options. The site is non-commercial, and written by a cancer patient (myself!). Good luck. John.

Dear John.
I am touting NCD because of all the positive results that I have read about.My mother has leukemia and my sister-in-law has stage IV lung cancer and because of a recommendation from my doctor friend who has knowledge of natural supplements are now taking it. Here is a link to an article about NCD.
http://www.newstarget.com/015232.html
and a link to the website that sells NCD
http://my.waiora.com/home.php?132130
Best wishes for a fast recovery.
Joan

Hi Joan

So far as I understand it, zeolite is volcanic ash and suffers from some of the same ills as vermiculite and asbestos. It is carcinogenic!

If you do a google search for "zeolite cancer", you'll find a lot of research indicating the carcinogenic properties of zeolite.

There is a lot of hype out there, promoting zeolite. But it seems pretty much unfounded. If you have links to definitive research studies, unequivocally demonstrating that zeolite deals with cancer, without danger, I'd be very interested to check them out. In the world of science, testimonials are worth very little.

When you look at the marketing of nutritional supplements from the eye of a cancer patient, the hype stands out a mile. To parody Mark Twain/Benjamin Disraeli and various others to whom the saying has been attributed, "There's lies, damned lines, statistics, and advertising."

Of course, everyone has to make a living. But to do so while maintaining complete integrity is often a challenge. Most advertising is a step on the road to lack of integrity. It's a shame folk have to hype things up. But it seems that the less the evidence, the greater the hype!

Take care

Hi John,
Link to article:
http://www.newstarget.com/015232.html

This is an excerpt from the article:

"Critics of NCD, however, are saying this substance causes cancer. How can that be? They're referring to the fibrous structure of zeolite crystals and the problems encountered when a person inhales tiny crystalline structures. Inhaling asbestos, for example, is known to cause lung cancer. The tiny, knife-edge fibers in asbestos slice up the tissues of your lungs, then embed themselves and interfere with normal lung tissue function, ultimately leading to cancer (20 or 30 years down the road, sometimes).
My first response to the critics is simply that the zeolites in NCD are never inhaled. This is a product that's swallowed, not breathed in. So we're talking apples and oranges here. Of course volcanic rock will cause cancer if you grind it into fine dust and inhale it for hours on end. Almost any crystalline substance would do the same. But consuming it orally is an entirely different story.

We consume many other crystalline structures orally, including minerals and amino acids from our daily diet. Silica, for one, is a common nutritional supplement, and there's no indication that swallowing silica is harmful. Even spinach contains crystalline structures. And zeolites are on the GRAS (Generally Recognized As Safe) list maintained by the FDA. Not that the FDA has any credibility in my view, but it is a GRAS substance.

You can see this GRAS status mentioned at: http://www.gsaresources.com/PDSZK406H.htm. There, the page goes on to explain, "Natural zeolites are inert, non-toxic minerals which are federally classified as GRAS (generally recognized as safe) in most applications and exempted from regulations and reporting when used in accordance with good agricultural practice and when less than 2% in animal feed products (40 CFR, Part 180.1001)."

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I would also question the critics of zeolites with an obvious question: if zeolites caused cancer, then how did 78% of the stage 4 cancer patients in the clinical trial find themselves in a state of full remission after taking NCD? Obviously, if the substance promoted cancer, those people should never have survived the study. Seven subjects didn't survive, actually, but they were late-stage cancer patients, and the trial lasted 14 months.
Keep in mind this was a small study, so it doesn't prove anything conclusively all by itself. I've seen some talk on the 'net that claims this substance has been proven to cure all cancers with a 100% cure rate and other similar nonsense. That's extremely irresponsible, given how little we actually know about the efficacy of this supplement in the context of different diseases or conditions. More research clearly needs to be conducted. It may someday be solidly proven that NCD prevents or treats cancers, but the supplement is nowhere near that status today. (It would cost probably half a billion dollars just to fund the studies to determine the answer to those questions, by the way.)

The Scientific Research Monograph by Rik Deitsch explains more about the safety of NCD:

The zeolite particles are negatively charged in the entire pH range (pH 1–11). Electron microscopy shows an absence of fibers, and most particles are round with a very rough surface. The absence of fibrous, positively charged particles is encouraging since such particles are present in asbestos and erionite zeolites, which are highly carcinogenic and mutagenic. In addition, activated zeolite particles do not catalyze the production of hydroxyl radicals, unlike asbestos or erionite. It seems that absence of fibrous particles capable of producing hydroxyl radicals makes this zeolite sample nontoxic and noncarcinogenic, at least when applied orally."
I will let you know in a few weeks when my mother has her blood test.
Thanks for caring,
Joan

Hi Joan

Do you have an actual links to published data? As, for instance, on the human trial you mention. Nothing positive comes up with on google and other search engines. Only indications of zeolite's carcinogenic nature.

I looked at zeolite earlier when putting my site together (www.self-helpcancer.info), and could find nothing to support the claims. So I omitted it.

I'm sure you are aware that there are many phytochemicals that are known from scientific studies (either in vitro, animal studies, and sometimes human studies - clinical or epidemiological)to perhaps help cancer patients. I went for these rather than currently unsubstantiated, and possibly dangerous, substances.

Another thing where the hype is high and the evidence low are goji berries. And the debate rages on between suppliers as to whether Chinese or Tibetan berries are the best.

C'est la vie!

Take care

John

I have know about it for 8 plus years, use it for myself and my family as a daily supplement and recommend it. I have lost two immediate family members to cancer so i have looked into many things for health reasons.

Their is actually much research on it visit www.electrogenetics.com, www.facr.net, www.polymva.com, www.centurywellness.com It is a very unique product that works at the cellular level and the electron trasport chain to provide many positive effects both for general nutriton and health as well as the protective and supportive effects in areas like cancer and other degenerative condtions.
Good luck and a safe journey.

A quick note: we've changed our web address to:

http://www.self-helpcancer.org

John

Tony, Are you still out there? I started taking Poly MVA 2 weeks ago. I pay $180.00 for the 8 oz bottle. The 3 different distributors charge $230.00 (I believe). Apparently my doctor is passing on his cost to me. I've read a lot of positive stuff about this. I have spoken with one gentleman who is into his 8th year after being given 3 months to a year to live. He takes POLY MVA along with many other nutrients. I have his entire prodicol if you'd like it emailed to you. Or better yet, I'll give you his email address if you'd like. I am also beginning Vit C IV Therapy this week. My oncologist is aware of all of the nutrients & therapies I am starting to take.
Much luck, Rosilyn

Hi, My name is Simon, I saw Your Message RE: poly-mva and i was wondering since have u acquired a broader knowledge of the substance, you see my mother was recently diagnosed with teminal cancer of the lymph nodes and she was sent a bottle of this "Zeolite" by a friend and apparently it helps alot, so im looking further into it , any information would be helpful, please email me at --- Message edited by CancerCompass staff: for personal protection, email address removed.  Please review CancerCompass Member Guidelines at http://www.cancercompass.com/common/guidelines.html ----
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