Subject: RE: How can I overcome this feeling of helplessness?
Screen Name: Lillian D.Date: 1/5/2003
Msg. #: 2 of 4I know exactly what you are going through. I recently went through the same thing with the man I love. Thanks for taking the time to read this. I have a lot of information. You can email me at and if there is anything I have that you need as far as information goes I will share it with you. Lillian
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Dear Lillian,
I cut most of your message---I see it is from Jan of 03, so I don't know if you even read these messages, anymore (Boy! Your message touches me deeply/mirrors our situation in many ways--Bless your heart!!!)--I believe I am in a very similar situation as you are/were/are...
Tomorrow, 11/08/06 my Man (the love of my life--14 years Oct. 31) Anyway, his kidneys may be in trouble NOW, he sees one doc tomorrow (A family doc-(about one of the few docs still left who haven't sent him to pasture, so to speak)...I'll try to keep this short (Short is not something I am good at, though) ... He was diagnosed 7/05 NSCLC, (Had been spitting up blood/I took him to the ER-July 19/05) Originally, Ken was T2 N0 M0--After the removal of the lower right lobe section: T2 N1 M0--Now he is stage 4, since it (LC) meets to his brain 4/06--He did great to begin with in 05, got right through the removal of the 7.5 centimeter tumor in his lung/sailed through it...When he started Chemo (as the arrogant Doc had deaf ears, IMO) Ken's troubles began...2 strokes (Dec. 05 and Jan 06) the 2nd stroke happened while he was in rehab in Jan.--Of course, the Chemo was halted (it had been cut, or put off as it was, prior to the Stroke/Something to due with his blood work--Info. in other room)--He never wanted it (Chemo) to begin with (Catch 22 situation, huh Lil?)
I don't know Lil, if we could do it all over again, don't know that Ken would ever have done the Chemo--I had done a lot of research online in the beginning and for many months---well..., up until recently) and thought radiation might be better/The Docs never listened to anything I said, apparently--some still don't, no matter how many notes I bring or questions I ask--Believe me, I have pages at times, and I always ask many questions, always! (I have Ken's durable power of attorney for health--They -different docs and hospitals- have that all mixed up, too). Ken didn't want it (Chemo) but reluctantly did it...We were NEVER fully informed, nor was it fully explained to us ~~~>(Chemo treatments/side effects~~~>short and long term, etc.)--(the Chemo program/plan he had anyway--2 Chemo drugs/in my records, in other room) Long story--The arrogant Doc man, states so in a letter after the 10/18/06 visit--states we were fully informed, and on and on in the copied medical records(Big Lie!). (I recently asked for my Man's medical records 10/18/06, after reading a cancer nurses notes that visit(out the side of my eye) as it was in front of her--She grabbed it from me, and I told her: "Excuse me, I have a right to read that/I see some lies in there!" -- She didn't care and the S*&* hit the fan at the Cancer center, that day--Holey Moley's, there's a bunch of inaccuracies in those records--I couldn't believe it (Just the few we were able to get, (that is)--I know there are many we'll never see) Like I say, his C doc is one arrogant soul, IMO--Also, speaks out both sides of his mouth--whatever works for him on any given day, IMO! I have been leary about him from the get-go.
He let Ken go almost 3 days with his first stroke (The Dec. 05 stroke--right side of Ken's brain/name for it, in other room--a clot of some sort)--That was the first stroke (I had called and called the C center, with the symptoms, and basically was told it was side-affects of the Chemo and a possible shot Ken received, until the last call~~>Day 3, I believe; Then,we found out with the 3rd MRI (on day 3?) Ken had had a stroke.(he was THEN admitted to the hospital) Doc Arrogant says on the 3rd day, "Carla, I really don't know what is wrong with Ken, call an ambulance!" I didn't--I drove Ken, since we are 5 minutes away from the ER door, and Ken was too stubborn to go via ambulance.--we would have gotten there sooner anyway, by car. (The 2 days prior, Doc arrogant had sent me to the ER for Ken's 2 other MRI's (could have been just an X-ray of some sort, too? My notes are in the other room) Anyway, that all came about after my many calls to the C center and other Docs, (when I first noticed the left side of Ken's body was having problems/not being able to move the left side (mostly from his legs down), dead weight, bad balance, on and on-)
At the ER they (radiologists guy) only did them in the lung area (Day 1) from Doc arrogant's orders, and lower area of Ken's back (MRI #2/Day 2-Doc arrogant's order again)--I would think, at least the radiologist man or even the admitting/checking-in nurse would have known on day 1 (when I took Ken to the ER, as instructed) I would think that someone would have been aware that Ken had had a stroke--Surely Doc arrogant should have understood the symptoms?). I had no clue what a stroke is/was, or I would have had Ken in an ER day 1 (which was at night time--could have been 4 days prior, too?) from his/the symptoms I observed and reported to the C center-And, I would not have left the ER until they could tell me what is/was going on with Ken. I even asked about a certain Chemo drug Ken had taken, since I found online, it can cause a stroke--That too, basically was not listened to, or was thought as unimportant. I believe I took that with me to one of the ER days (printed copy of what I saw); I may have mentioned it to another doc, and possibly doc arrogant...I had started that research when Ken was still doing Chemo, since no-one was telling us anything (very little, that is) about the Chemo Ken was getting, and after Ken had some bad blood counts...
Doc arrogant has done some other crazy things, too--IMO...Won't go there right now...
We don't have many choices here in Sioux City, Iowa for Cancer care/cures/help, etc. ...(It's either do "the good fight" in Sioux City, or go to the Mayo Clinic, or go to Omaha) ... We are existing on a very limited income, so those options were not one we could do, unfortunately. I did call and IM with "The Cancer Center of America"?--I think that is what it is called. Called and IM' ed with them after I was feeling like we were not being fully informed in the earlier part of Ken's LC--what to do, what options we had, etc. etc. ???--We didn't have the funds to go there, unfortunately. Ken is retired (69 yrs. old), and I am on SSI, from a nervous break-down in the Army/boot camp, in 81--Have G.A.D. and some other issues connected to that. (I'm 54)
In the hospital for/with the strokes, a neurologist was brought in--Ken's right carotid artery is totally blocked, and his left is partially blocked. In April 06, I almost lost Ken in the ambulance--I had called 911 since he didn't know me, himself, and was doing weird things--I thought it was a stroke (he had a Massive seizure in route/other stuff)--and, it's been a real struggle since, for him. -- After Ken's brain surgery, there's good and bad days, yet, he keeps "The good fight" going...It is so difficult to watch a beloved going through all this....I don't even know how he pulled through that brain surgery--Bless his heart!--After that, there has been protein in his urine, and then blood--So, he has a urologist now, too...It's one thing after another, and Ken definitely does not have a team of docs on the same page, unfortunately.
This is getting too long Lil, and SOooooooo much is left out...Lil, I hope you have done what you wanted to do...IMO, so many of us are not educated/medically/cancer-wise/body wise, etc., or know about Cancern symtoms related to anything Cancer, nor are we informed from docs (Not all docs--Surely there are great ones) some of us just happen to live in area's where there are not very many great Cancer docs, and many of us do not know our options, or rights, etc. etc. -- I would be very interested in emailing with you, if you are still around--reachable, that is.
God be with you always, Lil!!! And, all the other's going through this.
It may be too late for Ken; Like you Lil, if that is the case, I would want to do something about helping another with the issues you wrote about.
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