Solvestrols at work

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RE: Salvestrol

by iduna on Mon Apr 30, 2012 04:25 PM

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On apr 30, 2012 2:50 jennette wrote:

Dear Gerry - I went for it and am taking 2 salvestrol platinum 2,000 three times a day!I am also using the salvestrol cream.

I have read all you have said about helping the salvestrols work with niacin, etc and am taking these vitamins etc. too.

I supose Gerry, that if the salvestrols do work they are really 'the magic bullets' for cancer. It is funny -when I started this journey of looking for something to shift the cancer, my son said 'there are no magic bullets for cancer mum - give up, you must have the op'.

It is just so difficult to believe they can really be that good. I took your papers in to my surgeon, but of course he was looking for clinical trials. I have been telling my doctor - who was very interested - the professor of our local dental hosp - who was again very interested - and recently an eye surgeon - who seemed delighted at the thought that you had found something which was plant based and worked so well. My hairdresser - a very knowledgeable lady-  researched your info on the internet when I explained how the salvestrols work - and she talks to so many people. Doing my best Gerry.

Best wishes and thank you so much - it is so lovely to actually be able to talk to you here.

Jennette

 

 

Please tell me about the Niacin working with the Salvestrol. Is this something making salvestrol working faster? Just checking for my mum with colon cancer again. Do not want to miss out of anything.

So happy about this product.

RE: Salvestrol

by gerrypotter on Mon Apr 30, 2012 06:08 PM

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Niacin is Vitamin B3 and this is available in most multivitamin tablets. Niacin is needed by the reductase enzyme that helps the salvestrol activation. Usually there is sufficient in the diet but a multivitamin tablet makes sure there is enough available.

RE: Salvestrol

by gerrypotter on Tue May 01, 2012 08:33 PM

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Hi Jennette, I think salvestrols are the "magic bullet" for cancer which is why I recommend them. You really have gone for it with 12,000 points per day which seems to be a very effective dose. I think it also helps when you understand how salvestrols are working and that they need activation by enzymes in the body.

Like a true "Magic Bullet" salvestrols are targetted to the tumour cells and selectively kill the cancer cells without side effects.

I think the tamoxifen may also have helped. I have done a lot of research on tamoxifen and it was tamoxifen that lead ultimately to the discovery of salvestrols due to their relationship with estrogens and phytoestrogens. I was wondering what dose of tamoxifen you have been on ? The combination of tamoxifen with salvestrols makes a lot of sense for treating and preventing breast cancer so its good to know that the two can be taken safely together, Gerry

RE: Salvestrol

by MJLSK on Tue May 01, 2012 08:50 PM

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Hi Gerry,

I wrote here a while ago about my husband with GBM. Yesterday we found out that his tumour is unmethylated which is really bad. GMB has a grim prognossis of 12-14 months with "optimal" treatment and only 2-5% chance of 5 year survival   :(  Unmethylated patients statistically perform even worse..  You said that you don't know if salvestrols would work agains GBM.. What would you recommend then? Do you know anything about this cancer, any supplements that could help? We are still young and only had our first baby 2 months ago.. I'm devastated :((

RE: Salvestrol

by gerrypotter on Tue May 01, 2012 11:12 PM

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On May 01, 2012 8:50 PM MJLSK wrote:

Hi Gerry,

I wrote here a while ago about my husband with GBM. Yesterday we found out that his tumour is unmethylated which is really bad. GMB has a grim prognossis of 12-14 months with "optimal" treatment and only 2-5% chance of 5 year survival   :(  Unmethylated patients statistically perform even worse..  You said that you don't know if salvestrols would work agains GBM.. What would you recommend then? Do you know anything about this cancer, any supplements that could help? We are still young and only had our first baby 2 months ago.. I'm devastated :((

I think you should give the salvestrols a try and to be really effective you need to aim for a dose of 12,000 points daily. He should start off at 2,000 points daily and gradually increase the dose. The problem with treatments for GBM and other forms of brain cancer is getting the drug across the blood brain barrier. Very few molecules can do this which is why temozalomide is one of the few drugs used to treat GBM. This is why we were excited to discover salvestrol T31G which passes the blood brain barrier and was very active against brain tumour cells in the laboratory. We have formulated this in to salvestrol platinum which is why I think it should work against Glioblastoma Multiforme.

RE: Salvestrol

by MJLSK on Wed May 02, 2012 09:11 AM

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Hi Gerry, Thank you. Shall we go for 12,000 a day even though he is on Temodar?

RE: Salvestrol

by jennette on Wed May 02, 2012 10:12 AM

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Hi Gerry,

Really interested in what you were saying about tamoxifen. It seemed that when I was not taking the salvestrols my body was asking for a higher dose of tamoxifen - to begin with about 30mg/day. It was also thinking about combining this with evista. I found the side effects hard and balanced them with sage and evening primrose. But ovaries and womb became painful and I tried letrozole for a while which helped sort out the pain - but they again had side effects which were difficult, such as dizziness.

The body seems happy now I am on the salvestrols to take less tamoxifen - 15mg/day. (I am eight and a half stone). What do you think? I read recently about indoles which seem to empower tamoxifen and I wonder do the salvestrols empower also?

Unfortunately I am going through a very upsetting divorce so this is really difficult for my immune system.

I have been doing much emotional work during the past year as I actually felt relief when I heard I had cancer that I did not have to live any more. A friend of mine who also felt this when she found she had cancer said it's like jumping off a cliff then trying to claw your way back up! 

(I talk about the body wanting something as I am a kinesiologist, but main line medicine these days is beginning to acknowledge the bodies intelligence - including 'brain' cells in organs such as the gut and heart- and that what goes through our consciousness is generally tiny in comparison to the sorting of info generally in the body)

Hope you have some sun today after all the rain.

Very best wishes

Jennette

 

 

 

RE: Salvestrol

by gerrypotter on Wed May 02, 2012 11:19 AM

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On May 02, 2012 9:11 AM MJLSK wrote:

Hi Gerry, Thank you. Shall we go for 12,000 a day even though he is on Temodar?

I think if you start on a low dose of 2000 points daily this can be gradually increased to 6000 points. You can see how he does at this dose intially before making a decision to go to 12,000 points daily. I know this high dose can be expensive but you should be able to tell within 3 months if this is working. This is generally the amount of time it takes to see a reduction in tumour size and so if he tries it for 3 months you will know if it is working. What is the timing of his Temodar medication and what dose of this does he take ?

RE: Salvestrol

by gerrypotter on Wed May 02, 2012 11:47 AM

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Hi Jennette, thanks for your feedback about tamoxifen. I think tamoxifen is a good drug and its side effects are minimal compared with chemotherapy. What side effects did you get from tamoxifen and letrozole ?

Since you have been on tamoxifen longer than salvestrols I was wondering if you had seen any tumour regression with the tamoxifen alone before you started the salvestrols, or has the tumour regression been more pronounced since taking the salvestrols.

Tamoxifen at 15 mg/day combined with salvestrols at 12,000 points per day seems to be the way forward. Maybe you have hit on the best combination of drugs since they seem to be working well together.

Indoles are interesting and also empower the salvestrols. They induce the CYP1B1 enzyme activity needed to metabolize salvestrols. The typical indoles are indole-3-carbinol and di-indoylmethane (DIM) and these can be obtained from supplements based on extracts of cruciferous vegetables. If you combined indoles with salvestrols and tamoxifen you could get an even better effect.

RE: Salvestrol

by jennette on Wed May 02, 2012 05:30 PM

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Side effects tamoxifen - memory/thinking problems, soreness ovaries/womb. Had other probs as well - tiredness etc but they seem to be balanced by the sage and eve prim.

Letzo - pains in muscles/joints. skin really really dry/ burning. Dizziness and not feeling 'quite there'. Tiredness.

I took tamoxifen sept '11 - jan '12. The surgeon considered just by looking and palpating the breast it was much better. But on the scan there was little reduction - obviously, on the one plane.

I changed to the letzo then, hoping for better results and took this for about 6 -8wks till skin driving me mad. Started taking salvestrols 18th Feb 2012.

The last scan showed one of the tumours reducing by half, one reducing slightly, and the other showed great 'thinning' of the tumour, although it was the same length.

Gerry, I went to see Dan talking in Galway as I wanted to ask him questions. What I was picking up was that the cancers were being 'put to sleep' - not killed, but deactivated... It seemed that they almost waited then to be reabsorbed by the body.

I am using the liposomal vit c in short bursts with chlorella, and I think this has some effect - whether it oxygenates the cancer cells? - but it seems hard on my system and makes me feel like I felt for the first week or two when I was on the high dose salvestrol.

Sorry - yes, I definately think there has been a huge diff since taking the salvestrols. Objectively this seems to be the case, looking at the scans.

Gerry - before I took them I could here the cancer 'voice' very strongly - it really wanted to live -but then it just became quiet. My cranio believes it's a 60% tamoxifen, 40% salvestrols in the shrinkage.

Thanks for the advice re indoles. Have been scrunching raw broccoli but will get supplement!

Best wishes 

Jennette

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