Latest messages for CancerCompass discussion http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,50825,0.htm Fri, 24 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT Fri, 24 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT http://backend.userland.com/rss RSS.NET: http://www.rssdotnet.com/ THanks for posting your news, Karl and Bigsky - I am so happy that you are seeing good results. Where in Ireland are you Karl? I am in Cork city - (I work as a kinesiologist). My next scans are in July so I am hoping my news is as good as yours. I am very interested in what we are all doing to make ourselves better. Very best wishes to all, Jennette jennette Fri, 24 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Karl and Bigsky, Great to hear good news from you both this week and hoping for continued good news in the coming months. All the best Dochas Dochas Thu, 23 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT On May 22, 2013 12:24 PM mastergreener wrote: Hi Folks, As promised I told you I would let you all know about my mam's results from her recent scan. I have her taking 1200pts / day of Salvestrol since Oct 2012. She is also taking other things and I believe that (there is no magic pill to cure your cancer) all of these different things, especially the Salvestrol work in synergy to help fight all stages of the cancer (cancer goes through 20+ stages and you need to combat all of these). My mam had 3 doses of chemo (taxol & Carbo) from Sep to Oct 2012. The chemo reduced the tumours quite well. The Oncologist expected to have her back on treatment within 3-4 months. Pushing it at 6 months but now at 8 months things are all still stable. No new metastasis, no size increase. Everything looks stable which the Oncologist said is very surprising. He went as far as saying to us that whatever you are doing, keep on doing it. And that folks isn't a normal thing here in Ireland. Our medical profession frowns on Alternative stuff. Things haven't reduced but as a Stage 4 cancer sufferer my mam is in a much better position now then they expected she would be 9 months ago. Next scan is in Aug and I will update you again. Build your protocol to encompass the whole body treatment. Salvestrol a magic pill, most likely not but does it have it's part to play with the overall treatment of cancer, a very plausible real possibility. Thanks, KarlHi Karl, It's great to hear your mom's condition has stabilized. I agree with you and now see that it is foolish to rely on salvestrols alone in cancer therapy.  The earlier incredible case studies of cancer cures through salvestrols alone have failed to be replicated thus far within these forums .  My dad continues to take his remaining supply of salvestrols at 6000 pts/day until they are finished along with the recommended multi-vitamins, and daily consumption of essiac and dandelion root teas. We are skeptical regarding the effectiveness of salvestrols since his last PSA test showed an increase in PSA after 4 months on 12000 pts. daily. Contrary to what we were expecting his PSA actually dropped after the first month of salvestrol intake before rising again 4 months later after 12000 pts. daily. Hopefully we'll get a pleasant surprise at his next PSA test in June but currently we are not feeling very optimistic.   patromano Thu, 23 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT On May 22, 2013 12:59 PM mastergreener wrote: I haven't been in contact with him for awhile now. I haven't tried but yes as he said that Salvestrol takes different lengths of time to fully start working in different people. Sometimes it may take up to a year. We will be continuing to take Salvestrol Platinum 12000pts daily until my Mam is cured and after that we will bring the dosage down to a maintenance dose for life (its also for piece of mind). Wish everyone else the best with their on going struggles. Karl - There is always hope! Never give up!I think you are on the right track; thank you so much for sharing your story of your Mom.  A very wise decision to continue the salvestrols after she gets a clean bill of health; maintenance is the proactive approach. Keep us updated. jesichashope Wed, 22 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT I haven't been in contact with him for awhile now. I haven't tried but yes as he said that Salvestrol takes different lengths of time to fully start working in different people. Sometimes it may take up to a year. We will be continuing to take Salvestrol Platinum 12000pts daily until my Mam is cured and after that we will bring the dosage down to a maintenance dose for life (its also for piece of mind). Wish everyone else the best with their on going struggles. Karl - There is always hope! Never give up! mastergreener Wed, 22 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT Okay, haha, I thought 1200 points is not so much for cancer treatment...:) Do you still have contact with Gary? I am curious to see what happens if your mother continues the use of salvestrols.....maybe they will work better and better... Inde43 Wed, 22 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT On May 22, 2013 12:37 PM Inde43 wrote: That's very good news Karl! I am happy for you and your mother. You write that your mother takes1200 points of salvestrols a day. Maybe more points will show even more effect? For example 6000 points a day? Anyway, this is very good news and I hope you will even get better news in august!Hi Inde43, Thank you very much. Oops I made a typo there. She takes 12000 pts. I was originally onto Gerry Potter and by his recommendation I have had her on the max dose that they usually recommend. Sorry missed a zero. Thanks, Karl mastergreener Wed, 22 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT That's very good news Karl! I am happy for you and your mother. You write that your mother takes1200 points of salvestrols a day. Maybe more points will show even more effect? For example 6000 points a day? Anyway, this is very good news and I hope you will even get better news in august! Inde43 Wed, 22 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Folks, As promised I told you I would let you all know about my mam's results from her recent scan. I have her taking 1200pts / day of Salvestrol since Oct 2012. She is also taking other things and I believe that (there is no magic pill to cure your cancer) all of these different things, especially the Salvestrol work in synergy to help fight all stages of the cancer (cancer goes through 20+ stages and you need to combat all of these). My mam had 3 doses of chemo (taxol & Carbo) from Sep to Oct 2012. The chemo reduced the tumours quite well. The Oncologist expected to have her back on treatment within 3-4 months. Pushing it at 6 months but now at 8 months things are all still stable. No new metastasis, no size increase. Everything looks stable which the Oncologist said is very surprising. He went as far as saying to us that whatever you are doing, keep on doing it. And that folks isn't a normal thing here in Ireland. Our medical profession frowns on Alternative stuff. Things haven't reduced but as a Stage 4 cancer sufferer my mam is in a much better position now then they expected she would be 9 months ago. Next scan is in Aug and I will update you again. Build your protocol to encompass the whole body treatment. Salvestrol a magic pill, most likely not but does it have it's part to play with the overall treatment of cancer, a very plausible real possibility. Thanks, Karl mastergreener Wed, 22 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT On May 15, 2013 11:52 PM cpmty wrote: I hope you have good news tomorrow. and what kind of good fats are you talking about? (i guess i need to see the video first..) i only know of  salmon omega 3, olive oil and avocado oil... is ther is any more good fats? I am a diabetic too, and latetly my blood sugar is very high and don't know why... that is why is holding me to try different diets.. I am affraid it will impact negativily. I guess i should try it then I will know for sure. But if I can lower my IGF-1 that will be nice, for both my diabetes and my ca. Now I am going to see the video so I understand better this diet. Thank you a lot. and GOOD LUCK TOMORROW, I WILL BE PRAYING FOR YOU.Hi Cpmty,   Where did you go! I really want to talk to you and I sent you a private message about my Saint story. Hope that you're doing well and God Bless you!! Kami bigsky20 Tue, 21 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT On May 19, 2013 10:55 PM bigsky20 wrote: On May 15, 2013 11:52 PM cpmty wrote: I hope you have good news tomorrow. and what kind of good fats are you talking about? (i guess i need to see the video first..) i only know of  salmon omega 3, olive oil and avocado oil... is ther is any more good fats? I am a diabetic too, and latetly my blood sugar is very high and don't know why... that is why is holding me to try different diets.. I am affraid it will impact negativily. I guess i should try it then I will know for sure. But if I can lower my IGF-1 that will be nice, for both my diabetes and my ca. Now I am going to see the video so I understand better this diet. Thank you a lot. and GOOD LUCK TOMORROW, I WILL BE PRAYING FOR YOU.Thank you Celia! I had great news, all the doctor really sees is scar tissue, but I'm going to still need surgery. I would be very careful starting new diets if you have diabetes. If anything you could start out by getting rid of all grains and dairy to help stop inflammation. Check with your doctor to see if a fast is safe for you to do and if so, how often etc. I'll start sending you private e-mails because a few people on this site don't want to hear about anything other than Salvestrols, which I understand. The only thing is, they might be waiting a long time because not too many people are coming forward with real success stories. I hope that more people have goood results. In the meantime, I would suggest that one opens their eyes as to what other people are posting. I listen to everyone, what their taking etc. I write down their protocols, educate myself and I have found that I needed the info that was given out and I'm so thankful for members who list their protocols. You just could miss some very informative info from someone who is just having small talk with another member on this thread. Remember too, that we're all cancer patients and some of us need one another. I think that everyone here has always tried to include Salvestrols in the topic, but I think that we like to share other things as well. Hopefully, the salvestrol results start to roll in and we'll be so excited that it's all we'll talk about.  That's wonderful news Bigsky! Made my day. So very happy for you. Good job! Excellent. I agree that people have to be patient with Salvestrols. I've been taking 12,000 points a day, per Gerry's Rx. Been going through some very interesting sensations that may or may not be significant. However, I intuitively feel that I have been experiencing Salvestrols in action and making progress. Will be tested again in a couple months. People might be interested to know that one of the people I get C drips with has just had a blood test, and his markers are down, not dramatically, but down nonetheless. Like me, his markers inititally went up. He's totally undisciplined, but does take Salvestrols, 8,000 a day. Something's working. He's just doing Salvestrols, biotin, and C drips. And Gerry says that it is expected that markers will go up, then gradually come down as one is taking Salvestrols. I personally am not too concerned. I think the biggest weapon we have against cancer is our thoughts. Think about wellness, not cancer. And by the way, my doctor agrees with that concept, as does Dr. Bernie Siegel. I'll be sharing any good news I hear. Bigsky, please continue to keep us posted. Thank you for your news. Love to you all. J. AJoan Mon, 20 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT On May 20, 2013 6:04 AM Inde43 wrote: That is good news, congratulations!! What is the dose of salvestrols you take? How many points a day? Let's not forget that salvestrols sometimes need a year to work. Unfortunately people give up earlier and then claim that they don't work. Sometimes patience is the key.Hi Inde, Thank you so much! I stopped taking the salvestrols about 3 months ago because my tumor stabilized. Three months later, the tumor is still the same size, but the doctor said it mostly looks like scar tissue now and they won't know what's going on until they get in there and see. It was a different doctor than the one who looked at my ultra sound with salvestrols, so it could be that the salvestrols helped. I don't know. I want to apologize to all of you on tamoxifen since I said that tamoxifen and salvestrols didn't work for me. I now have no basis for what I said.  When I was taking Salvestrols, I took 6 to 9000 points a day. You're right, patience is key.   bigsky20 Mon, 20 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT That is good news, congratulations!! What is the dose of salvestrols you take? How many points a day? Let's not forget that salvestrols sometimes need a year to work. Unfortunately people give up earlier and then claim that they don't work. Sometimes patience is the key. Inde43 Mon, 20 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT On May 15, 2013 11:52 PM cpmty wrote: I hope you have good news tomorrow. and what kind of good fats are you talking about? (i guess i need to see the video first..) i only know of  salmon omega 3, olive oil and avocado oil... is ther is any more good fats? I am a diabetic too, and latetly my blood sugar is very high and don't know why... that is why is holding me to try different diets.. I am affraid it will impact negativily. I guess i should try it then I will know for sure. But if I can lower my IGF-1 that will be nice, for both my diabetes and my ca. Now I am going to see the video so I understand better this diet. Thank you a lot. and GOOD LUCK TOMORROW, I WILL BE PRAYING FOR YOU.Thank you Celia! I had great news, all the doctor really sees is scar tissue, but I'm going to still need surgery. I would be very careful starting new diets if you have diabetes. If anything you could start out by getting rid of all grains and dairy to help stop inflammation. Check with your doctor to see if a fast is safe for you to do and if so, how often etc. I'll start sending you private e-mails because a few people on this site don't want to hear about anything other than Salvestrols, which I understand. The only thing is, they might be waiting a long time because not too many people are coming forward with real success stories. I hope that more people have goood results. In the meantime, I would suggest that one opens their eyes as to what other people are posting. I listen to everyone, what their taking etc. I write down their protocols, educate myself and I have found that I needed the info that was given out and I'm so thankful for members who list their protocols. You just could miss some very informative info from someone who is just having small talk with another member on this thread. Remember too, that we're all cancer patients and some of us need one another. I think that everyone here has always tried to include Salvestrols in the topic, but I think that we like to share other things as well. Hopefully, the salvestrol results start to roll in and we'll be so excited that it's all we'll talk about.   bigsky20 Sun, 19 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT I hope you have good news tomorrow. and what kind of good fats are you talking about? (i guess i need to see the video first..) i only know of  salmon omega 3, olive oil and avocado oil... is ther is any more good fats? I am a diabetic too, and latetly my blood sugar is very high and don't know why... that is why is holding me to try different diets.. I am affraid it will impact negativily. I guess i should try it then I will know for sure. But if I can lower my IGF-1 that will be nice, for both my diabetes and my ca. Now I am going to see the video so I understand better this diet. Thank you a lot. and GOOD LUCK TOMORROW, I WILL BE PRAYING FOR YOU. cpmty Wed, 15 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT wow, That is nice, my saint is "Padre Pio" I have lots of faith on him. I believe He helped me a few years ago, so I always pray to him. I will pray for you so you have good results ob the next visit and testing you have. I am sorpraised your story is almost as mine. I am sorry to say but many doctors don't know much as we women do. And some time they don't acept when we tell them something. For example when I was in that place in Florida, a nurse told all of us to massage the top part of the breat between the shoulder and the breast because there are some lymph nodules and doctors refuse to test women in that area,.. and even mamograms and other test show negative, they get cancer again, because the doc's don't do anything in that area, they don't check it, they don't treated etc etc... and the cancer cells from a tumor that was removed can be 'sleeping' in that area. The truth is when I was there, many of the women that had treatment -radiation- have metastasis  / metastaticide their cancer  to lungs, and others to bones. I don't understand why can the  doc's listen to the women who know their body better than they are. Each person is different. I knew I had cancer before they discored it. Because i was feelin g something in my breast (like a worm moving) An the doctor found it. YES, please let me know how things and results are, in the mesn time i will pray for you. celia. PS. *sorry about my spelling mistakes, I am tired and also my memory is amost gone... Can't remember names or spelling words anymore. I guess is my medication - diabetes - sugar in my brain etc. And my doctor doen't do much about it... she worries about other problems I have.  cpmty Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT I agree - although a lot of this information is quite interesting I would like to hear from more that have tried the Salvestrol. What I am finding from some people that have tried it, they are getting results but not dramatic ones and some that have more agressive cancer or TNBC are not getting results or very little and that could relate to other diet changes when they start the Salvestrol.  I understand that many case studies are not able to be published or given out as public knowledge, when using naturally based treatments no matter how great, the only good indication is peer use and peer results.  Drugs have trials, naturally based treatments have peer results. jesichashope Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT It's great sharing experiences of so many different supplements and therapies, etc, but I was just wondering when the posts would be re-focusing on salvestrols?  Just my thoughts...... LogansDad Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT I'm cooking with coconut oil raw extra virgin only. Take salmon oil, cod liver oil. Eat avocados, a few nuts (soaked only) I eat fish and lean chicken only with dark greens. I also eat some fermented foods. I use a lot of good olive oil, eat sea weed etc. Just a good clean diet. All organic or wild caught fish. Thank you for your prayers! Some of the food on the video is a no no, but the video gives good info on science. bigsky20 Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT On May 14, 2013 1:45 PM cpmty wrote: Ohhh my, I didn't even think that a traumatic or accidental bump can cause ca. Now that I think about i too had a big bump a couple times in my left breast (couple accidents).  I didn't take any hormons ... but almost all women in that clinic in florida had taking them. I was thinking that  mine ca. came from the radiation from MRI's and x-ray i have to take several times a year ( I have nodules in one lung). Thank you for answering me. GOOD luck in your trip, and i hope they can help you in MD Anderson. Many Europeans go there to get treated for ca. I will pray for you. celiaCmpty, I got a haematoma from a sterotactic biopsy. It came in at the top of my chest and it was shooting for the bottom right breast where the docs said that I had tiny calcifications that looked suspicious. The biopsy failed, but left a haematoma at the top left of my chest. A month later, I had a surgical biopsy on the botttom right corner and it was negative. I too suspected xrays because I had 24 zaps from a mammogram within a year and a half on that breast. Then I told the doctors that the haematoma hurt and that I wanted it out. Even though they mammogrammed me to death, they never saw the cancer in the haematoma. Doctors don't believe that something caused the cancer. They're in denial. I finally found info of viruses moving in on dead or traumatized tissue. Cancer won't develop in that area unless the person has a compromised immune system. I had fibromyalgia, xrays so I guess that it was a good enviroment for cancer to develop. If I do well, cmpty, I'll let you know exactly what I'm doing and how much etc. We could be in the same category. I'm also avoiding radiation treatment like the plague because I believe through my experiences that my cancer is radiation resistant. God bless you Cmpty. I believe as you do and I'll send you an awesome story about what happened to me with Saint Theresa of Lesiux. I'm Catholic too! :) bigsky20 Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT I hope you have good news tomorrow. and what kind of good fats are you talking about? (i guess i need to see the video first..) i only know of  salmon omega 3, olive oil and avocado oil... is ther is any more good fats? I am a diabetic too, and latetly my blood sugar is very high and don't know why... that is why is holding me to try different diets.. I am affraid it will impact negativily. I guess i should try it then I will know for sure. But if I can lower my IGF-1 that will be nice, for both my diabetes and my ca. Now I am going to see the video so I understand better this diet. Thank you a lot. and GOOD LUCK TOMORROW, I WILL BE PRAYING FOR YOU. cpmty Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT Ohhh my, I didn't even think that a traumatic or accidental bump can cause ca. Now that I think about i too had a big bump a couple times in my left breast (couple accidents).  I didn't take any hormons ... but almost all women in that clinic in florida had taking them. I was thinking that  mine ca. came from the radiation from MRI's and x-ray i have to take several times a year ( I have nodules in one lung). Thank you for answering me. GOOD luck in your trip, and i hope they can help you in MD Anderson. Many Europeans go there to get treated for ca. I will pray for you. celia cpmty Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT woww thank you so much. I take note of everything you say. I did bu the cat's claw (in a suppermarket) and I will get astragalus and the other stuff you mention. right now i am taking noruegian omega3 fish oil and flaxseed oil, vitam D3 and Co Q10, but i will get the rest of supplements you are mentioning (and i will tell my friend who aslo has more agresive ca. than I do) THANKS AGAIN, I really apreciate all this information. celia cpmty Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT Cpmty, I forgot to answer your question. No, I have never been on birth control. My cancer came about on a calcified haematoma that happened during a surgery. Scientists have found that people who get cancer in a traumatized area could very well be due to viruses moving in on the site. I'm doing a heavy viral and parasite protocol for my cancer. Tamoxifen is also working for me at this time. I think that we all should hit cancer from many different avenues. Well, I'm packing for my trip to MD Anderson in Houston. Hope you all have a great day! bigsky20 Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT On May 14, 2013 12:50 PM cpmty wrote: HY BIGSKY, the links that you put is not working... I wounder why. I will like to be able to check on it.  and Jennett and Joan where are you from and live? (country) I am in the US even a am from Spain origanally. Can someone be able to send some these herbs and supplements thru mail?  and have you heard about cumin balck oil? ricks simpson oil (cannabis oil) I think you can get it in Canada and the US but don't know where.  AND I HAVE a question to both of you. I guess you both have breast cancer (like me) and my question is did you ever take hormone replacement or birth control? I think there is a big conexion with Brst. Ca. I was in Florida last year in a clinic that more or less treat cancer -vegetarian diet and other protocols- beautiful place, there about 50% of their clients were women with breat cancer (some men with protate and other types of ca) when I was there I ask almost all and all of them told me yes, they have taken hormons/birth control there ages were between 26 to 45 years old and others 55+ (like me) I am so sure that most of the breast cancer cases are related to that and the plastics we have been using in cooking with and other hidden hormones ...I wish someone was traking this info. Hi Cpmty,   I'm sorry the link isn't working for you. I clicked it and it's working for me. How about watching this video on fasting and the science to back it up. It starts to get interesting about a quarter way through the video. There are these people in Ecuador that have a rare form of dwarfism. Scientists pin pointed it to IGF-1. They found that those people have never had cancer or diabetes. They also have come to the conclusion that fasting a few days a week, lowers levels of IGF-1. I wouldn't eat bad foods on the off days. I would juice a lot of greens and eat low good fat as much as you need. On the fast days you could have a little broth and water. I'm doing a high good fat diet now, but I might switch it up if my cancer isn't shrinking. I find out tomorrow if what I'm doing is working. I'll post good or bad news here. This is the link for the video: http://documentaryheaven.com/eat-fast-and-live-longer/ bigsky20 Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT HY BIGSKY, the links that you put is not working... I wounder why. I will like to be able to check on it.  and Jennett and Joan where are you from and live? (country) I am in the US even a am from Spain origanally. Can someone be able to send some these herbs and supplements thru mail?  and have you heard about cumin balck oil? ricks simpson oil (cannabis oil) I think you can get it in Canada and the US but don't know where.  AND I HAVE a question to both of you. I guess you both have breast cancer (like me) and my question is did you ever take hormone replacement or birth control? I think there is a big conexion with Brst. Ca. I was in Florida last year in a clinic that more or less treat cancer -vegetarian diet and other protocols- beautiful place, there about 50% of their clients were women with breat cancer (some men with protate and other types of ca) when I was there I ask almost all and all of them told me yes, they have taken hormons/birth control there ages were between 26 to 45 years old and others 55+ (like me) I am so sure that most of the breast cancer cases are related to that and the plastics we have been using in cooking with and other hidden hormones ...I wish someone was traking this info.  cpmty Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT On May 14, 2013 12:13 PM cpmty wrote: what other protocols is your mom following? and what is LDN? I hope your mom improve and gets well. cpMy mam is taking: Astragalus and Cat's Claw Herbal blend. Boosts the immune system but also identifies the cancer cells so that the immune system can see and attack them. Cat's Claw is a immune booster. Protects healthy cells during chemo and radiation. Cats Claw is an immuno-modulating herb - it is known to increase various white cell levels stimulating the production of Natural Killer Cells. Four alkaloids in particular boost phagocytosis where the white cells attack, wrap up and carry off the rogue cells in the body be they microbes, viruses, antigens and even cancer cells. These 2 herbs work well in conjunction with Essiac Tea blend. Essiac Tea blend Turmeric tabs (GiveLife brand). Can inhibit unwanted bacterial action in the stomach and intestine. It is a significant anti-inflammatory. It boosts crucial cellular glutathione levels. Powerful antioxidant, help prevent liver damage and curcumin can suppress tumour initiation, promotion and metastasis. Salvestrol Vit D3, C, K2, CoQ10, Omega3 and Green Tea supplements. Systemic Enzymes (GiveLife brand). Proteolytic enzymes, Vitamin C, and select botanical antioxidants that have been specifically chosen for their ability to combat oxidative stress, support healthy circulation, support muscle and joint recovery after exercise, and provide other systemic benefits. LDN (Low Dose Naltrexone) Optimal dose of LDN is 4.5mg, taken each night at bedtime; i.e., between 9pm and 3am. Start with 0.5mg - 1mg for 1 week. Increase dosage by 0.5mg per week until you reach 4.5mg. Increases production of endorphins should be expected to stimulate the immune system, promoting an increase in the number of T lymphocytes. Acts directly on these T immune cells to stimulate or restore normal function i.e. destroy the cancer. Not to be taken with codeine.Google it for more information. Probiotics e.g. Prebio7. Asphalia to help you sleep. Natural sleep aid that does the same as taking Melatonin (contains low levels of Melatonin). This antioxidant is also a hormone which balances both oestrogen and Insulin like Growth Factor 1 (IGF-1). Both these last two hormones are implicated in cancer development. Contains Wheat grass leaves (triticum aestivum and Barley grass leaves (hordeum vulgare). Chlorella. In addition to strengthening the immune system's response to cancer cells, chlorella acts as a preventative measure against cancer by raising blood levels of the protein albumin. Some studies have documented that a low albumin level is a marker for serious illnesses such as cancer and heart disease. It also cleanses the system of heavy metals. Contains important vitamins like natural beta-carotene and natural B-12. It contains all eight essential amino acids, has a high polysaccharide content and has a high mineral and nucleic acid content. Clean filtered water, good healthy diet with a balance between Omega3 fats, living foods (vegetables uncooked, salads), organic where possible. Fairly alkaline diet. Karl mastergreener Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT what other protocols is your mom following? and what is LDN? I hope your mom improve and gets well. cp cpmty Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT did you try turmeric/cucumin also shrinke tumors. and did you ched ESSIAC TEA (mixture of herbs)? but you must be sure that the mixture is the true formula. I got a book with medicinal herbs (the problem is tha this books have general info. they don't follow what 'expert people -herbalist recomend for cancer (like the herbs you comented, they are not even mentioned), so I don't know but at least the books tells you good herbs to boost the immune system. I can check it and list herbs that are good for that, if you want me to. I am sorry you have three tumors, just think possitive, relax your mind can do a lot. G B Y cpmty Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT what if PDT? sorry I ask, i just learning all this 'stuff' and I don't have idea of many things. I have a 'adopted son' more or less. (he is my son's best friend and don't have family so is like a son to us,) he is from china, may be he can get it - if is a kind of herb ... or something like that. I am taking mitakee + reishi moshrooms (in a pill) they say it boost the immune system. I really don't know much about it.  AND thank you for answering me about the herbs you mention but where can i get the cream and the herbs? I guess I can't use the cream if it so strong, I don't want to have the chance to spread the cancer. I still will like to know where you can get these plants, if is ok with you. I need to learn more just in case. It seems i am ok for now but i have a friend that she has agresive ca. and i will like to give all the info. that can help her. I also will check the internet to see if i can find something (is that I am scare to choose a company that is not good) Any way, thank you so much for the info. you give me about bloodroot cream and the other stuff. and I will pray for you ( I am catholic and i believe some saints can do miracles). celia cpmty Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thank you so much for the replies. I will certainly look into all of these. I so appreciate help and suggestions. Regards Jentan jennette Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT On May 14, 2013 10:06 AM jennette wrote: I certainly do! Something I have been doing has been shrinking the three tumours I have in my left breast. The doctor says it is the tamoxifen. I stopped the tamoxifen in November as I found that I wasnt thinking too well - and I seemed always to be chesty - I have asthma. I have been taking indole 3 carbinole instead - the research on it looks good. But I am nervous about the next xray/scan. Taking other things - among them krill oil, coq10 - research on these - and the chloroquine. Did anyone look at the Navy protocol and low dose naltroxene?  Best wishes  JentanJennette, Choroquine is the anti malaria drug, which you already know. I'm now taking Artemisinin and I'm about to take it with Artesunate. An Indian doctor told me about it and they're finding that it works better than chloroquine. I take mine at night with fish oil for absorption. I also take monolaurin, you should look into it. It's for pathogens as well. Glad that your tumors are shrinking. bigsky20 Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT Ecchinacea is suppose to be a very good immune system stimulant but I read to only take it for up to 6-7 weeks as it thins the blood and can cause more issues after that time. Cat's Claw, Astragalus & Essiac all work well together. Read about Astragalus on canceractive.com . It supposedly identifies the cancer cells for the immune system so it can then go and attack them. mastergreener Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT You really seem to have been doing your homework! I am delighted you have checked out these things too! I found I got ill on the chloroquine and apparently it lowers your immune system' slightly'  -  I have been taking ecchinacea and plantago since then and am fine. Also taking feverfew - seems to be good for breast cancer. Do look at the coQ10 research. Taking menosan - low dose - to balance the indole. A friend of mine used the indole plus maca for ovarian cysts - not cancer - and a huge cyst disappeared - such interesting stuff out there! Oh that i could get marihuana oil - seems a delightful way to cure cancer! Jentan jennette Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT On May 13, 2013 6:05 PM bigsky20 wrote: On May 13, 2013 5:49 PM AJoan wrote: On May 13, 2013 5:36 PM jennette wrote: Jennette here. I dont know whether anyone follows Dr Mercola. He has an interesting article up on the importance of taking vit D to prevent and treat cancer. Particularly breast cancer. But you need to take vit K with it as well. I tried to get bloodroot cream into Ireland - from Larson century ranch - but the Irish medical authorities have gone crazy and are not allowing many products in - such as feverfew or ginko or even melatonin ( the melatonin seems to be important in treating breast cancer). A friend of mine has been using the bloodroot cream successfully to treat skin cancer. It is disappointing that we are not hearing from people who have been taking salvestrols and for whom it is working. I have another x-ray and scan in July so I wont know till then what is happening - but I certainly will post when I do. Lads - I am divorced at last! But am still in the middle of things as the house needs to be sold, etc etc. So still crazy stressed. Has anyone come across the 'cancer personality trait'?There is some very interesting work by LeShan on what we need to do to get our immune systems more active. There is a thought that cancer sufferers are 'too nice'.Haha, I love it Jennette. We are too nice, or let's put it this way, we take on other people's problems. Sound familiar?  As for getting some positive feedback about Salvestrols, I'm on a mission to get some concrete answers and will share them here when I get them. I'd like to offer myself as a success story, but it'd too soon. If Gerry has 500 successful case studies, where are they? Very frustrating. Why can't they be published? Take care. JoanHey there Joanie girl! I'm still following all you guys.....kind of like a stalker lol. I go in for testing on Wednesday and I've been doing the ketogenic diet instead of Salvestrols for the past 2 months, so I'll finally be able to tell you if it worked for me. Jerry is right though, there are some who do worse on it. I think that you were wise not to listen to your doctor and instead, listen to your heart. Women with HER 2 negative cancer don't do well on it, but women with estro positive have been doing well. I have estro positive. It all has to do with autophagy. It's a very long story!! Anyway, I just wanted to let you know that I care about you and the group and I hope that we all can figure out what it is that we need. Have you all looked into intermittent fasting? IGF-1 is being linked to diabetes and cancer and fasting minimizes IGF-1. It could be something to add to your protocols. http://www.businessinsider.com/the-science-behind-the-fast-d iet-2013-3?op=1"" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessinsider.com/the-science-behind-the-fast-d target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessinsider.com/the-science-behind-the-fast-d Love, Big Sky    Hi Bigsky, I look forward to hearing the results of your tests per the ketogenic diet. My doctor is still putting people on it, including himself. He's been getting good results with it. He was, however, interested in Gerry's opinion and hasn't pressed me. I have estrogen receptive breast cancer. The ketogenic diet has a lot of animal protein in it. I'm almost totally a vegetarian, eat some fish, but haven't eaten other meat in 30 years. Live on vegetables primarily, but not the starchy ones. So, you see, the ketogenic diet would be very difficult for me, at any cost. I like the idea of systematic undereating, which has been linked to longevity. How it benefits one to fight cancer, I don't know. Good to hear from you. I want to hear your good news. Big hug! Joan AJoan Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Jeannette, I started my mam on LDN. Our GP agreed to prescribe the drug to her after I gave him loads of info on it and explained to him the theory how it worked. She only started taking it but had to stop because she got very sick from a serious infection and was hospitalised for 3 weeks. She is home now a few weeks but has not taken the LDN since she got sick. Hoping to get her back taking it soon. You need to build up the dosage very slowly as there are side effects if you go too fast. The only thing that I insisted that she kept taking even when she was in hospital was the salvestrol. She never stopped with them. All of her other protocols we stopped for the few weeks. Karl mastergreener Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hey everyone, Just a few things. If not melatonin look up a supplement called Asphalia. It contains all natural ingredients including low doses of melatonin and I've read that lower doses of melatonin has shown to be more affective then higher doses. Jeannette - it's no problem getting this shipped into Ireland. I just got it from the UK with no hassle. Melatonin is synthetic where as Asphalia is all natural ingredients. A really good book to check out is Chris Woollams -The Rainbow Diet - and how it can help you beat cancer.Look up canceractive.com . Very good site and the book is great. My mam is the one who has cancer and she is a difficult patient at times but is really enjoying the book. It's easy to read and such a wealth of knowledge. For anyone that has followed this thread fully know the history of my mam's case and know that I have her taking Salvestrol platinum 12000pts since Oct 2012. Next monday she has her update CT scan. Hoping for good results. I will let you all know who shes getting on when we get results. Good or bad. Karl mastergreener Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT I certainly do! Something I have been doing has been shrinking the three tumours I have in my left breast. The doctor says it is the tamoxifen. I stopped the tamoxifen in November as I found that I wasnt thinking too well - and I seemed always to be chesty - I have asthma. I have been taking indole 3 carbinole instead - the research on it looks good. But I am nervous about the next xray/scan. Taking other things - among them krill oil, coq10 - research on these - and the chloroquine. Did anyone look at the Navy protocol and low dose naltroxene?  Best wishes  Jentan jennette Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT Do you still take salvestrols, Jennette? Inde43 Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT Sorry! this is Jennette - tryingto use my smart phone and it did its own thing. I cant remember the dosage re melatonin - I take 2 mg at night - apparently we produce less melatonin with age, so its really useful for elderly people also. It is really good for helping you sleep. Be careful you dont take too much or it hangs you over the next day. There are different ingredients in the bloodroot cream - some are much harsher than others. Larson cream is gentler - the bloodroot seems to target the cancer cells and dives into them. That is why it is painful! This is not something one does lightly, and I think would be too painful for breast cancer - there is also the thought that it can cause a lot of inflammation and perhaps cause the breast cancer to spread. Has anyone researched new generation PDT? I would love to know what anyone thinks? I am very tempted to go to china for the treatment. Seems spot on. Very fed up having cancer. jennette Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT hi... I just put in melatonin cancer to google. or breast cancer. then you can put in 'research' too. bloodroot ... look up the larson century ranch site, or you can phone them. this definately works for skin cancer but it is not pain free and can leave scarring. you would have told you about the know what you were doing and use vit e etc as well. jennette Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT On May 13, 2013 5:07 PM Dochas wrote: Hi Joan, Thank you so much for your detailed message and your words of encouragement. I haven't replied because I didn't know quite how to reply but I do want to say that I am thinking of you and that I sincerely hope all goes well for you. Do remember that the increased markers could indicate a successful treatment but they could also be a sign that the treatment is not working. The hs-CRP value measures inflammation in general and not only that related to cancer. Other inflammation, of which you were not even aware, could have been present at the time of the first test. I also had perfect results on all of the other blood tests you mentioned at the time of my diagnosis. My markers were barely above the threshold level and never rose much. Though I had two tumours and massively invaded lymph nodes, I felt wonderful. I certainly didn't have any inkling that I had a time bomb going in my body. I'm not saying this to scare you, but just to make sure you ask the right questions when you see your doctor. I started another thread a few days ago asking directly for stories of cures with salvestrols. No one has responded. I find that worrying.  Take care DochasHi Dochas, I look at it this way, we have many options. If Salvestrols don't work, then we can turn to another protocol. As a matter of fact, doing a few synergistic therapies at once can raise chances for success. I happen to think that Salvestrols make a lot of sense, so I am giving them a chance.  As far as the case studies are concerned, I'm still working on that. Have you called your resource for Salvestrols to ask them to forward information to you, including case studies? They will provide you with some, but probably not a lot. We all want to read about huge numbers of success stories. We also all know that a natural cure for cancer is the last thing the medical/pharmaceutical community wants, so putting many case studies online may not be in the best interest of science. We are all pioneers in this, and that takes courage. How are you doing? Let me know your progress. I'm praying for you too. Please keep praying for me. Take care. Joan AJoan Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT <<< I tried to get bloodroot cream into Ireland - from Larson century ranch - but the Irish medical authorities have gone crazy and are not allowing many products in - such as feverfew or ginko or even melatonin ( the melatonin seems to be important in treating breast cancer). A friend of mine has been using the bloodroot cream successfully to treat skin cancer.>>> PLEASE can you tell me where did you find info. about this herbs. 2. where can I get them 3. what are they used for? Like bloodroot, people had talked about it but I can't find for what they are using it. or melatonin, where can i find it? how much are you taking ?((or I should take)) and how do you know is good for Breast Ca. (which is what i have) ??? where do you get this info. Thank you in advance if you can. cpmty Mon, 13 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT On May 13, 2013 5:49 PM AJoan wrote: On May 13, 2013 5:36 PM jennette wrote: Jennette here. I dont know whether anyone follows Dr Mercola. He has an interesting article up on the importance of taking vit D to prevent and treat cancer. Particularly breast cancer. But you need to take vit K with it as well. I tried to get bloodroot cream into Ireland - from Larson century ranch - but the Irish medical authorities have gone crazy and are not allowing many products in - such as feverfew or ginko or even melatonin ( the melatonin seems to be important in treating breast cancer). A friend of mine has been using the bloodroot cream successfully to treat skin cancer. It is disappointing that we are not hearing from people who have been taking salvestrols and for whom it is working. I have another x-ray and scan in July so I wont know till then what is happening - but I certainly will post when I do. Lads - I am divorced at last! But am still in the middle of things as the house needs to be sold, etc etc. So still crazy stressed. Has anyone come across the 'cancer personality trait'?There is some very interesting work by LeShan on what we need to do to get our immune systems more active. There is a thought that cancer sufferers are 'too nice'.Haha, I love it Jennette. We are too nice, or let's put it this way, we take on other people's problems. Sound familiar?  As for getting some positive feedback about Salvestrols, I'm on a mission to get some concrete answers and will share them here when I get them. I'd like to offer myself as a success story, but it'd too soon. If Gerry has 500 successful case studies, where are they? Very frustrating. Why can't they be published? Take care. JoanHey there Joanie girl! I'm still following all you guys.....kind of like a stalker lol. I go in for testing on Wednesday and I've been doing the ketogenic diet instead of Salvestrols for the past 2 months, so I'll finally be able to tell you if it worked for me. Jerry is right though, there are some who do worse on it. I think that you were wise not to listen to your doctor and instead, listen to your heart. Women with HER 2 negative cancer don't do well on it, but women with estro positive have been doing well. I have estro positive. It all has to do with autophagy. It's a very long story!! Anyway, I just wanted to let you know that I care about you and the group and I hope that we all can figure out what it is that we need. Have you all looked into intermittent fasting? IGF-1 is being linked to diabetes and cancer and fasting minimizes IGF-1. It could be something to add to your protocols. http://www.businessinsider.com/the-science-behind-the-fast-d Love, Big Sky     bigsky20 Mon, 13 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT Good point Jennette.... I take 2000 IE vitamin D on a daily basis. I hope that you have good results in july!! Inde43 Mon, 13 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT On May 13, 2013 5:36 PM jennette wrote: Jennette here. I dont know whether anyone follows Dr Mercola. He has an interesting article up on the importance of taking vit D to prevent and treat cancer. Particularly breast cancer. But you need to take vit K with it as well. I tried to get bloodroot cream into Ireland - from Larson century ranch - but the Irish medical authorities have gone crazy and are not allowing many products in - such as feverfew or ginko or even melatonin ( the melatonin seems to be important in treating breast cancer). A friend of mine has been using the bloodroot cream successfully to treat skin cancer. It is disappointing that we are not hearing from people who have been taking salvestrols and for whom it is working. I have another x-ray and scan in July so I wont know till then what is happening - but I certainly will post when I do. Lads - I am divorced at last! But am still in the middle of things as the house needs to be sold, etc etc. So still crazy stressed. Has anyone come across the 'cancer personality trait'?There is some very interesting work by LeShan on what we need to do to get our immune systems more active. There is a thought that cancer sufferers are 'too nice'.Haha, I love it Jennette. We are too nice, or let's put it this way, we take on other people's problems. Sound familiar?  As for getting some positive feedback about Salvestrols, I'm on a mission to get some concrete answers and will share them here when I get them. I'd like to offer myself as a success story, but it'd too soon. If Gerry has 500 successful case studies, where are they? Very frustrating. Why can't they be published? Take care. Joan AJoan Mon, 13 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT Jennette here. I dont know whether anyone follows Dr Mercola. He has an interesting article up on the importance of taking vit D to prevent and treat cancer. Particularly breast cancer. But you need to take vit K with it as well. I tried to get bloodroot cream into Ireland - from Larson century ranch - but the Irish medical authorities have gone crazy and are not allowing many products in - such as feverfew or ginko or even melatonin ( the melatonin seems to be important in treating breast cancer). A friend of mine has been using the bloodroot cream successfully to treat skin cancer. It is disappointing that we are not hearing from people who have been taking salvestrols and for whom it is working. I have another x-ray and scan in July so I wont know till then what is happening - but I certainly will post when I do. Lads - I am divorced at last! But am still in the middle of things as the house needs to be sold, etc etc. So still crazy stressed. Has anyone come across the 'cancer personality trait'?There is some very interesting work by LeShan on what we need to do to get our immune systems more active. There is a thought that cancer sufferers are 'too nice'. jennette Mon, 13 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Joan, Thank you so much for your detailed message and your words of encouragement. I haven't replied because I didn't know quite how to reply but I do want to say that I am thinking of you and that I sincerely hope all goes well for you. Do remember that the increased markers could indicate a successful treatment but they could also be a sign that the treatment is not working. The hs-CRP value measures inflammation in general and not only that related to cancer. Other inflammation, of which you were not even aware, could have been present at the time of the first test. I also had perfect results on all of the other blood tests you mentioned at the time of my diagnosis. My markers were barely above the threshold level and never rose much. Though I had two tumours and massively invaded lymph nodes, I felt wonderful. I certainly didn't have any inkling that I had a time bomb going in my body. I'm not saying this to scare you, but just to make sure you ask the right questions when you see your doctor. I started another thread a few days ago asking directly for stories of cures with salvestrols. No one has responded. I find that worrying.  Take care Dochas Dochas Mon, 13 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT Lalaji, I know that Gerry is not allowed to write on the forum (in public) anymore (and that is a shame!), but there is no problem writing him a personal, private message, via this forum. You can look him up here, and write a message. Inde43 Wed, 08 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT You can still send him a private message here! That's what I did. So it's possible! Inde43 Wed, 08 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Inde, I thought of asking Garry the same question. The prob is, he is not allowed to post anymore in this forum (as per the last post that he made). So, I am unable to contact him as I don't have his email Id. lalaji Wed, 08 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT On mei 08, 2013 7:09 lalaji wrote: On May 08, 2013 6:20 AM Inde43 wrote: Salvestrols contain fyto estrogens, but they are good for the hormonal system. (Gerry Potter wrote me) There are different types of fyto estrogens, for example, the isovlavones (like in soya) can be bad for you. But the fyto estrogens in salvestrols are a different type and help the hormonal system.Thanks Inde. What I am concerned about is, estrogen has a negative effect on ovarian cancer. For this reason, resveratrol is not good for the patients with manopause or ovaries removed. So, if salvestrol contains something estrogenic, then we should be careful while recommending it for the ovarian cancer patients.Dear Lalaji, I have had hormonal breastcancer, and estrogens are also bad for me. That's why I asked Gerry Potter. He reassured me that salvestrols and the regular medicin (tamoxifen) I take, are together the best prevention against recurrence of the breastcancer. If I were you I should contact him about this. He is still a member here, so you van write him a private message. Please share the answer, if you you do contact him. I wish you all the best!! Inde43 Wed, 08 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT On May 08, 2013 6:20 AM Inde43 wrote: Salvestrols contain fyto estrogens, but they are good for the hormonal system. (Gerry Potter wrote me) There are different types of fyto estrogens, for example, the isovlavones (like in soya) can be bad for you. But the fyto estrogens in salvestrols are a different type and help the hormonal system.Thanks Inde. What I am concerned about is, estrogen has a negative effect on ovarian cancer. For this reason, resveratrol is not good for the patients with manopause or ovaries removed. So, if salvestrol contains something estrogenic, then we should be careful while recommending it for the ovarian cancer patients. lalaji Wed, 08 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT Salvestrols contain fyto estrogens, but they are good for the hormonal system. (Gerry Potter wrote me) There are different types of fyto estrogens, for example, the isovlavones (like in soya) can be bad for you. But the fyto estrogens in salvestrols are a different type and help the hormonal system. Inde43 Wed, 08 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT I am not an expert on SALVESTROL but according to someone in this website SALVESTROLS  are compounds of fruits extracts. I hope they answer you. cpmty Tue, 07 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT sorry, i meant  website. cpmty Tue, 07 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT I GOT IT in a couple places, the most serious that I know I can trust them is peoplespharmacy.com they are pharmacist  (with PhD) they have published several books in home remedies, herbs and spices, side effects etc etc.... you can check the wave site and you can also ask questions. The other site that i found that I can't remember now but I kow it was in youtube. Also there are some books that mention the possible side effects and contradictions.  In reality many herbal and spieces can be dangerous if taken with medication or sensitive people. Another spice is cinnamon, also can be dangerous or can have side effects if taken too much or taken with some medications.  cpmty Tue, 07 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT Are salvestrols estrogenic ? Is it safe for Ovarian Cancer patients with manopause or whose ovaries are surgically removed ?     lalaji Tue, 07 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 28, 2013 1:09 AM cpmty wrote: thank you for your answer. I love pomegranates and always ate its seeds, so now I know what I should do. Maybe that is why some people in the Asia  (India...middle East) eat the seeds and use them in cooking. If I may say so, about turmeric/curcumin, some people are sensitive and must be careful how much they take. It can damage their liver,  and ALSO  tumeric can affect blood thinner medication. It can cause bleeding or even clots (I just read that somewhere). It is a good idea to consult their holistic/ nutritionist  or alternative doctor. Where did you get the information that too much tumeric can damage the liver? I think it’s a liver protector and detoxifier. Macdon Mon, 29 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT thank you for your answer. I love pomegranates and always ate its seeds, so now I know what I should do. Maybe that is why some people in the Asia  (India...middle East) eat the seeds and use them in cooking. If I may say so, about turmeric/curcumin, some people are sensitive and must be careful how much they take. It can damage their liver,  and ALSO  tumeric can affect blood thinner medication. It can cause bleeding or even clots (I just read that somewhere). It is a good idea to consult their holistic/ nutritionist  or alternative doctor. cpmty Sun, 28 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On apr 27, 2013 1:55 cpmty wrote: WHERE did you find that pomegranate seeds have B17? where can I look for this info.? (i know I can look in google but how do I word it?) Thank you.I asked Gerry Potter if salvestrols are fine with pomegranateseeds. He answered that it is beter not to eat them, because they contain too much B17. Drinking pommegranatejuice is no problem (even a good thing, because the juice contains a lot of salvestrols) So just the seeds are a problem. Inde43 Sat, 27 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 27, 2013 1:46 PM kjfaithhope wrote: Joan, Do you have espophageal Cancer? And if you do what stage? My father was diagnosed stage 4 April 2012. Tested positive for H2nu so he is on herceptin.  First chemo drugs were oxiplaton and fox ful-had a major reaction after 5 months so switched him to taxal-after a few months now this is not working and his tumor has grown. Options are radiation or trying another chemo drug in which he was told may not be effective. What have you had success with, chemo drug wise? And how long have you taken the salvestrol? I just ordered some for my dad.  Just looking for more options for him.  He is not ready to go. Thank you. KellyHello Kelly, My father too was diagnosed with oesophageal cancer - Sept 2012 - Stage 111. He underwent 8 rounds of chemo - Carboplatin + Capecitabine which worked very well initially and a scan showed that the tumour and lymph nodes had shrunk substantially. However another recent scan has shown growth again which has completely thrown us all into turmoil. Dad is 83 but looks 75 and is very fit, and like your dad is nowhere near ready to go. Right now he's not been offered any further chemo and he tested negative for herceptin. Radiotherapy (and surgery) are out of the question and so like you we are desperately trying to find out dad's options plus looking at alternatives. I heard about Salvestrols through a doctor friend of mine in Germany (where alternative methods are widely explored) and so I got in touch with Professor Gerry Potter with some specific questions. (We live in UK). Dad has now been on Salvestrols (12,000 points a day) for just over a week so it is too early to give a progress update. Please see below the reply I received from Gerry which you may find useful.... All my very best to you and your dad, keep in touch? Debbie x RE: Salvestrol: Oesophageal Cancer / Vitamin supplements Sent April 21 at 3:19 PM from gerrypotter to you Dear Debbie, As you know oesophagael cancer is a very hard disease to treat. I certainly think its worth giving salvestrols a try especially as they are free from side effects, and think the dose of 12,000 points is needed. Some people go straight on this dose so there is no real need to be cautious. He could try chewing the capsules until they dissolve in his mouth which would allow greater concentrations to reach the afflicted area. Answers to Q's Q1. Your multivit sounds great. Q2. see above Q3. Metformin has anticancer activity of its own and is OK to combine with salvestrols. Q4. Curcumin is OK. Best Wishes, Gerry In response to: Dear Mr Potter, Please forgive me for contacting you, I have seen the interest you have shown in individual cases through posts last year and would be so grateful if you be able to answer a few questions. I have been recommended Salvestrol by a German doctor friend of mine in Hanover, for my father who was diagnosed with stage 3 oesophageal cancer last October 2012. He completed 8 rounds of chemo relatively unscathed apart from tiredness (no radiotherapy and no surgery planned), but the tumour (and lymph nodes) are now increasing (no other organs affected). I wish I had found your studies sooner. Dad started Salvestrol Platinum 2000 yesterday. Question 1: To supplement we are considering Nature's Best Multi-Guard Balance with the following:- Vitamin D3:5µg Vitamin E: 50mg Vitamin K: 20µg Vitamin C: 100mg Thiamin: 25mg Riboflavin: 12mg Niacin: 50m Vitamin B6: 25mg Folic Acid: 400µg Vitamin B12: 50µg Biotin: 150µg PantothenicAcid:25mg Calcium: 100mg Magnesium: 300mg Iron:14mg Zinc: 15mg Copper: 0.5mg Manganese: 4mg Selenium: 200µg Chromium: 200µg Iodine: 150µg CholineBitatrate25mg Inositol: 25mg Para Amino Benzoic Acid (PABA) 25mg Alpha Lipoic Acid: 150mg Cinnamon Bark:2000mg Are there any ingredients here that you would not recommend? I was wondering about the Cinnamon Bark? Question 2: How long would you recommend before building up to the Salvestrol dose of 12,000 points per day? Days?/Weeks?/Months? Or does it depend on the individual? Question 3: Dad is type 2 diabetic and so takes Metformin, is there any contraindication with this drug? Question 4: Dad had already started taking curcumin in the form of Theracumin 300mg x twice daily. Is this still ok to continue with? I saw your posts regarding 2 people who used Salvestrol for oesophageal cancer, would there be anything else you would suggest that would be beneficial for this type of cancer? For example would dad be better to break open the capsules seeing as the tumour itself is so accessible - all foods etc pass through it (dad can still eat/drink relatively normally) With our sincere thanks, Debbie DebbieJS Sat, 27 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 27, 2013 1:46 PM kjfaithhope wrote: Joan, Do you have espophageal Cancer? And if you do what stage? My father was diagnosed stage 4 April 2012. Tested positive for H2nu so he is on herceptin.  First chemo drugs were oxiplaton and fox ful-had a major reaction after 5 months so switched him to taxal-after a few months now this is not working and his tumor has grown. Options are radiation or trying another chemo drug in which he was told may not be effective. What have you had success with, chemo drug wise? And how long have you taken the salvestrol? I just ordered some for my dad.  Just looking for more options for him.  He is not ready to go. Thank you. KellyHi Kelly, No, I have breast cancer. It's a recurrence from 25 years ago. Bummer! It's gone to my sternum and collarbone and I have a lesion on my shoulder. I guess that makes me stage 4 too. I never asked, though my doctor volunteered that info. Honestly, it doesn't mean anything to me. I figure cancer is a systemic disorder, so no matter where it is, it has to be approached from that perspective. Is your dad dealing with esophageal cancer? I've been taking Salvestrols for almost 3 months now. Before that, I was on laetrile and 120 grams of C (IV) per week, plus more C taken orally and lots of other supplements including selenium, iodine, and pork enzymes. All of it made me feel very energetic and healthy. My progress is being measured by way of CEA and CA markers and other blood tests. I am wary of CAT scans and Pet scans, although Gerry thinks that Pet scans are okay. I haven't had any chemo, and had one round of radiation 25 years ago. If I knew better 25 years ago, probably wouldn't have had radiation then either. So you see, I'm the wrong one to comment about conventional therapies in that I'm prejudiced in favor of Mother Nature's therapies. I'm an artist, not a scientist, but have a friend who is a molecular biologist. She is a great supporter of Salvestrols. As a matter of fact, she introduced me to Salvestrols, and I re-introduced my doctor to them. My doctor is an alternative, integrative oncologist and is very conservative. He was convinced enough of the science behind Salvestrols to put many of his patients on them. He switched from laetrile to Salvestrols. It's too soon to say that Salvestrols are curing people within his practice, nonetheless, he has already seen progress being made. The signs are encouraging. I have done a prodigeous amount of research on all the natural therapies, including Salvestrols. Have been totally obsessed since my diagnosis, as you can imagine. I've read case studies of patients on Salvestrols and am duly impressed. Even pancreatic and brain cancer patients have been cleared of the disease. I reading the accounts of the patients themselves from their own personal blogs. They're not selling anything. These cancer patients are just telling their stories online to give other people hope. There is no monetary motive. Like your dad, I too, am not ready to go anywhere but here. Kelly, I think you should consult Gerry regarding your dad. Who knows more than Gerry? We're lucky that we have access to him, and that he is caring enough to answer our questions. Please keep us informed about how your dad is progressing. If I can help in any way, please let me know. All good wishes to you and your dad. Joan AJoan Sat, 27 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT WHERE did you find that pomegranate seeds have B17? where can I look for this info.? (i know I can look in google but how do I word it?) Thank you. cpmty Sat, 27 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Joan, Do you have espophageal Cancer? And if you do what stage? My father was diagnosed stage 4 April 2012. Tested positive for H2nu so he is on herceptin.  First chemo drugs were oxiplaton and fox ful-had a major reaction after 5 months so switched him to taxal-after a few months now this is not working and his tumor has grown. Options are radiation or trying another chemo drug in which he was told may not be effective. What have you had success with, chemo drug wise? And how long have you taken the salvestrol? I just ordered some for my dad.  Just looking for more options for him.  He is not ready to go. Thank you. Kelly kjfaithhope Sat, 27 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT I Will check with Gerry and share his answer here! I think it is okay to eat fruits likes pears etc I think the problem is the high concentrated supplements with B17 and certain seeds. Inde43 Fri, 26 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 26, 2013 3:25 PM Inde43 wrote: On apr 25, 2013 8:10 AJoan wrote: On Apr 25, 2013 4:58 PM Inde43 wrote: Does anyone know if flaxseedoil (like in the Budwig diet) is compatible with salvestrols? Or does it contain too much B17?From what I've read, it is compatible. This came from my alternative oncologist today. "Flax seed oil and seeds and nuts do not interfere with the Salvestrols and are OK to take alongside them. Flax seed is part of the Budwig diet which some cancer patients follow as well as taking salvestrols."I find this confusing, because flaxseed contains B17. Gerry Potter once told me that it is better not to eat pommegranateseeds, for they contain B17. I wonder why flaxseed is allowed then..and pommegranateseeds not....Good point. I would be inclined to ask Gerry his opinion. My group of cancer patients was told faxseed oil is okay. Actually, flax seeds have medium B17. They're not high on the list. Foods with high B17 are all the wild berries, choke cherry, elderberry, the seeds of apricots, peaches, pears, plums, squash, fava beans, mung beans, lima beans, garbanzo beans, macadamia nuts, cashews, almonds, alfalfa, bean sprouts, brown rice, chia, millet, barley, cassava. What's left to eat? I've been eating all these foods in moderation while taking Salvestrols. Certainly I don't eat apricot or peach seeds now. Seems to me, the fruit or the vegetable itself would be safe to eat. For instance, I would think it's okay to eat an apricot or a peach. And apples are recommended. Just don't eat the seeds. Probably best to check it out with Gerry. AJoan Fri, 26 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On apr 25, 2013 8:10 AJoan wrote: On Apr 25, 2013 4:58 PM Inde43 wrote: Does anyone know if flaxseedoil (like in the Budwig diet) is compatible with salvestrols? Or does it contain too much B17?From what I've read, it is compatible. This came from my alternative oncologist today. "Flax seed oil and seeds and nuts do not interfere with the Salvestrols and are OK to take alongside them. Flax seed is part of the Budwig diet which some cancer patients follow as well as taking salvestrols."I find this confusing, because flaxseed contains B17. Gerry Potter once told me that it is better not to eat pommegranateseeds, for they contain B17. I wonder why flaxseed is allowed then..and pommegranateseeds not.... Inde43 Fri, 26 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 26, 2013 4:36 AM cpmty wrote: so you say that curcumin will not do anything in my lungs? but works better on my bladder ...esophagus? I need to read again all the comments (to understand) Hummm something has to help me with the nodules in my lungs. aAnd I guess the turmeric is not going to do any harm if I continue taking it. I read it was good for nodules  and turmors. (Puff.. i wish we have spell check here... some time I don't see my spelling mistakes.) Thank you for the information.  Ah, and I used turmeric for all cooked foods (except salads ) My friend just had some nodules removed from her neck and she was told that she had hashimotos disease, but after they removed the nodules, she's supposedly fine. I found this article on a style of eating that has helped with autoimmune problems. I'm following an even more strict diet than this one and I feel awesome. It might be of some help! Look it over and see if it will fit in your program. Also, have you been checked to see if you have any thyroid problems? http://tinyurl.com/bwbj5na bigsky20 Fri, 26 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 26, 2013 9:05 AM tryeverything wrote: I have a 20lb dog with Bladder TCC for the past 12mths, I started him on 1cap 2x day mixed with his feeds. Is this enough & also should I give him niacin. He has been on a raw diet with v-gs over the time as well. I am sure they must working along with a few other things. You a very much appreciated Deb & Andy  Deb & Andy, Sorry to hear about you're dog. You might also want to check out Arteminisin to take along with salvestrols. It's been used to treat malaria, but they have found that it's killing cancers in pets and humans. Pay attention to dosages and I think that it's something like 8 weeks on so many weeks off. I ordered some for myself from hepalin.com (Artemix) and I'm taking it along with nascent iodine. Here is the link:http://tinyurl.com/bq8j4bw Early Success with Canine OsteosarcomaTreatment with artemisinin was started on a dog with a bone cancer so severe it could not walk across the room. Within five days of treatment the dog was able to walk normally, and X-rays confirmed the disappearance of the tumor. Several dogs with lymphosarcoma had also been treated with artemisinin with an immediate reduction in tumor size. In all these canine cases, an iron supplement was used. In humans: Types of Cancers RespondingThe anti-cancer activity of artemisinin against 55 cancer cell lines was tested in the N.C.I.'s (National Cancer Institute) Developmental Therapeutic Program. Artemisinin was found to be most active against leukemia and colon cancer cell lines. Most promising was artemisinin's strong activity against drug resistant leukemia lines. Other cancer cell lines tested that indicated some responsiveness to artemisinin's actions were melanoma, breast, ovarian, prostate, renal and central nervous system cancers such as glioblastoma and neuroblastoma. ("The anti-malarial artesunate is also active against cancer," International Journal of Oncology, 18http://tinyurl.com/2ooanx Hope this helps       bigsky20 Fri, 26 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 26, 2013 4:36 AM cpmty wrote: so you say that curcumin will not do anything in my lungs? but works better on my bladder ...esophagus? I need to read again all the comments (to understand) Hummm something has to help me with the nodules in my lungs. aAnd I guess the turmeric is not going to do any harm if I continue taking it. I read it was good for nodules  and turmors. (Puff.. i wish we have spell check here... some time I don't see my spelling mistakes.) Thank you for the information.  Ah, and I used turmeric for all cooked foods (except salads ) Look into the herb called "mullein". It's excellent for the lungs. You put a few drops in water, and it even tastes good. It has miraculous healing qualities for the lungs. That alone could probably clear the nodules. AJoan Fri, 26 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT I have a 20lb dog with Bladder TCC for the past 12mths, I started him on 1cap 2x day mixed with his feeds. Is this enough & also should I give him niacin. He has been on a raw diet with v-gs over the time as well. I am sure they must working along with a few other things. You a very much appreciated Deb & Andy   tryeverything Fri, 26 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hey Karl, nice to read your attitude. I believe, when I look at the way my collegues feel and behave, that many of them are scared. It is since the insurance companies have all the power in Holland that I am minimizing the number of companies to contract. I do not want to work for them anymore,  they interfere with what I am doing while thereby having no clue about what they are judging. They want full transparancy and control and in doing that they destroy the enthousiasm with which I have build my practice. If only one of them knew what they were judging or talking about but its only bureaucrats and over-paid-efficiency-*ssh*les that are "watching over" my work. I cannot work like that. I have had many doctors in my practice, young doctors who are working in an atmosphere of total stress, giving every bit of energy they have to their education and patients, these people are treated in the same way, with constant panaranoid letters of distrust and threats. I cannot see how anyone within our healthcare can really be creative or dare think out of the box. psychotherapist Fri, 26 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT hi cpmty, alcar= acetyl l carnitine in combination with r-alpha-lipoic acid it mainly gives more energy. I take it in the morning, first thing, before breakfast 200mg lipoic acid and 500 mg or 1000 mg carnitine. This is what gave my back the ability to go to work again after the chemo and concentrate on peoples lives and stories. I do not believe that it has any cancertherapeutic effects, some research suggests regenerating qualities of this particular combination. psychotherapist Fri, 26 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT HI CALIN, I am very sorry but I could hardly understand what you said. My English is not that good. May be you can explain in more simple English? or just tell me where can I get this "alcar" or foods that have this component or coencime or...???and can you explain the effects/results it has and how to take it? (sorry but I am not a scientist, i was never good on that and I am too old to try now but I am learning a lot THANK YOU.)  cpmty Fri, 26 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT so you say that curcumin will not do anything in my lungs? but works better on my bladder ...esophagus? I need to read again all the comments (to understand) Hummm something has to help me with the nodules in my lungs. aAnd I guess the turmeric is not going to do any harm if I continue taking it. I read it was good for nodules  and turmors. (Puff.. i wish we have spell check here... some time I don't see my spelling mistakes.) Thank you for the information.  Ah, and I used turmeric for all cooked foods (except salads )  cpmty Fri, 26 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 25, 2013 12:12 PM cpmty wrote: tangerines: I am confused since recently I read about tangerines that even though they have components to fight cancer this benefits are destroyed by other compound that increases and causes the tumor to grow. Now I dont know to whom to listen. and who (a site)is doing studies on this. ???I don't know the answer to that. Found this piece that was written by Dan Burke and Gerry Potter. They talk about the fruits that have salvestrols, tangerines being one of them. I know they extract the substance from the skin of the tangerine, but the rest of it has fiber and bioflavonoids and C and probably some slavestrols too. I eat tangerines. Anyways, here's the article: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=fsl3d5m4cd AJoan Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT you remind me of the spunk and determination Jesicha had; you can get quickly caught up in the turmoil of cancer treatment; when you finally realize the merry go round you are on. Glad you have gotten off the merry go round and finding peace in your naturally based treatment. So goes to everyone else here following their instincts of survival. jesichashope Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 25, 2013 4:58 PM Inde43 wrote: Does anyone know if flaxseedoil (like in the Budwig diet) is compatible with salvestrols? Or does it contain too much B17?From what I've read, it is compatible. This came from my alternative oncologist today. "Flax seed oil and seeds and nuts do not interfere with the Salvestrols and are OK to take alongside them. Flax seed is part of the Budwig diet which some cancer patients follow as well as taking salvestrols." AJoan Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 25, 2013 10:04 AM mastergreener wrote: Thanks Joan, I'm calling ALL the luck of the Irish in. They have her on anti-rejection drugs and a high dose of morphine like painkillers. Strongest you can be prescribed outside of hospital here. Conventional medicine here is so negetative and do not work with the patient for a better outcome. We have literally had to defy a lot of what some of the doctors have suggested. Their answers to most of the questions are "oh just stop taking ALL of those supplements. We didn't prescribe them so just don't take them." But on no factual basis. Its just a blanket outright NO. They won't think outside of the box or entertain that what we're doing is working. They were very surprised at my mam's progress on her last CT scan but they will never attribute that to what we're doing which is so frustrating and ignorant. I would LOVE a more complementary approach. This is the way conventional medicine needs to approach disease. The ONLY thing that was ever discussed with us for her recovery was Chemo and that was only to maybe stabilise the disease for a short time. No nutrional, lifestyle advice or anything else for that matter. She could be sitting at home doing no exercise, drinking alcohol all of the time and eating burgers and chips for all the doctors knew about it. That certainly wouldn't help her get better. So my point is that it was left to us to take on this journey of discovery to find the ways and means for healing. The doctors did not give us a healing option. Only a extended time option, which is NOT good enough! Bottom line is try to work with your doctors but if they aren't doing enough then you need to say "NO that's not enough". Stay in the driving seat of your own self healing ALWAYS!. Hope everyone achieves this some how, some way! Salvestrol might be one of those ways. So far I'm still confident that it is helping. Even a double blind clinical trial has it's fault and doesn't always reflect the truth fully. Salvestrol and many other alternative/complementary treatments can't hurt then why not try them if they are safe to do so. KarlHi Karl, I agree with everything you've said. You have to take your health into your own hands these days. And in your case, it's your mom's health. Traditional medicine is torturing cancer patients uselessly and needlessly. When I was diagnosed with breast cancer, my internist was on the phone within seconds, calling an oncologist while I was still numb from the shocking news. Talk about insensitive. Made me very angry. I pretty much fired the doctor on the spot and forbade her to call me with any of the typical scare tactics. I put a muzzle on her. Then I went to work to find an alternative route to health. And that was and is the right decision. Your mom is fortunate to have you as an advocate. Cancer patients need their families to rally round them. Hopefully, the cancer patient's family is sophisticated and at least curious enough to search out better solutions. I live in the States, and researched alternative doctors in the US, Canada, and Mexico. Was lucky to find an excellent doctor an hour and a half from where I live. In the States, most of the alternative centers are in California. I live on the east coast. I bet you can uncover someone really good by consulting your resource for Salvestrols. They usually post a list on their website. If I were you, I'd call them over the phone. Or you can just research it online. Been reading about so many good outcomes with Salvestrols. That, combined with other complementary supplements, diet and exercise, and you're on your way. My molecular biologist friend, Kaite just told me about the Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine. You can read their archives online for free. There's probably some good info in there. I'd take my chances with a tangerine any day to chemo and radiation. Please keep us posted. Joan AJoan Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Salvestrols work best with a lower B17 level, so if in a question, better be safe and do not increase your B17; that is my opinion after talking to a colleague regarding the science behind Salvestrols.  This is definately worth using. jesichashope Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Does anyone know if flaxseedoil (like in the Budwig diet) is compatible with salvestrols? Or does it contain too much B17? Inde43 Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 25, 2013 2:00 PM cpmty wrote: Hi, thank you. I have a question how do you know how much to take of vitm. D3? and what is alcar.=?? I am ok with sugar, i am not taking (except some -few- fruits) and very low in carbs. and I take vit.D3 1000, wich i will increase & turmeric /curcumin in all my meals (spice)I will get lipoic acid, and ______alcar.?? thank you for the tips, to tell you the truth i am depress, had pain all over, tired etc etc.. I need something to keep me up. At least I got good news yesterday. & i want to get rid of the nuduls in my longs (both but more on the left one. I think due to fungus at work) Thanks again. cpmtyes, curcumin is okay too, it just will not reach the inside of your tissue, its workes very well for eveything that grows illegaly on the inside-surface of your bladder/bowels/esophagus(?correct?). And in chickensoup its great :)) psychotherapist Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 25, 2013 2:39 PM calin wrote: On Apr 25, 2013 1:52 PM psychotherapist wrote: Hi, I'm living in Europe, Holland. I had those "nudules" in my lungs. After the chemo I studied what the best way would be to get strong again, to my view this should be vit. 5000 IU D3 daily//no sugar,carbonh.//salvestrols, now 8000 pnts daily//lipoic acid+alcar. This works fine for me. I am in a better shape than ever, I can hardly remember feeling so good, which is not normal after a heavy chemo/radiation/operation. 6 months after complting the regular treatment and my own self-treatment the nudeles apppeared to have gone. My doctor was very surprised and me? I hope that salvestrols are really that magical that they can also do thát. I can see my own patients again, it is wonderful to be back again. Hipsychotherapist Can you expand a bit more on your treatments - chemo and the operation you mentioned. Did the doctors operate on your lungs? Were the nodules in the lungs still there after the radiation/chemo/operation? Thanks for sharing! ;) Hi calin, They treated me for bladder cancer. At first I had a choice: A stoma or a new bladder. I told my doctor Hey man, come on, you can do better then that, you cannot expect me to talk to my patients with a plastic bag on my belly//money is no problem. So a month went by and he came with a combined chemo(second series) and radiation-alternative. Should be possible he said so we tried. It worked. The cisplatin hurt my nerves and I am still recovering from that, but sometimes everyrhing seems quite normal. Its just when I drive long and fast on the German autobahns that it falls back to previous levels, it deteriorates because of the bangs the carseat gives my spinal chord. Patient waiting, will continue later.. psychotherapist Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 25, 2013 1:52 PM psychotherapist wrote: Hi, I'm living in Europe, Holland. I had those "nudules" in my lungs. After the chemo I studied what the best way would be to get strong again, to my view this should be vit. 5000 IU D3 daily//no sugar,carbonh.//salvestrols, now 8000 pnts daily//lipoic acid+alcar. This works fine for me. I am in a better shape than ever, I can hardly remember feeling so good, which is not normal after a heavy chemo/radiation/operation. 6 months after complting the regular treatment and my own self-treatment the nudeles apppeared to have gone. My doctor was very surprised and me? I hope that salvestrols are really that magical that they can also do thát. I can see my own patients again, it is wonderful to be back again. Hipsychotherapist Can you expand a bit more on your treatments - chemo and the operation you mentioned. Did the doctors operate on your lungs? Were the nodules in the lungs still there after the radiation/chemo/operation? Thanks for sharing! ;) calin Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 25, 2013 2:00 PM cpmty wrote: Hi, thank you. I have a question how do you know how much to take of vitm. D3? and what is alcar.=?? I am ok with sugar, i am not taking (except some -few- fruits) and very low in carbs. and I take vit.D3 1000, wich i will increase & turmeric /curcumin in all my meals (spice)I will get lipoic acid, and ______alcar.?? thank you for the tips, to tell you the truth i am depress, had pain all over, tired etc etc.. I need something to keep me up. At least I got good news yesterday. & i want to get rid of the nuduls in my longs (both but more on the left one. I think due to fungus at work) Thanks again. cpmtALCAR is anacetylatedderivative ofL-carnitine. During strenuous exercise, a large portion ofL-carnitine and unusedacetyl-CoAare converted to ALCAR and CoA inside mitochondria bycarnitine O-acetyltransferase.[1]The ALCAR is transported outside the mitochondria where it converts back to the two constituents. TheL-carnitine is cycled back into the mitochondria with acyl groups to facilitate fatty acid utilization, but excess acetyl-CoA may block it.[2][3]Excess acetyl-CoA causes more carbohydrates to be used for energy at the expense of fatty acids. This occurs by different mechanisms inside and outside the mitochondria. ALCAR transport decreases acetyl-CoA inside the mitochondria, but increases it outside.[4][5]Glucose metabolism increases with administration of either ALCAR[6]orL-carnitine.[7]A portion ofL-carnitine is converted to ALCAR after ingestion in humans. calin Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 25, 2013 2:00 PM cpmty wrote: Hi, thank you. I have a question how do you know how much to take of vitm. D3? and what is alcar.=?? I am ok with sugar, i am not taking (except some -few- fruits) and very low in carbs. and I take vit.D3 1000, wich i will increase & turmeric /curcumin in all my meals (spice)I will get lipoic acid, and ______alcar.?? thank you for the tips, to tell you the truth i am depress, had pain all over, tired etc etc.. I need something to keep me up. At least I got good news yesterday. & i want to get rid of the nuduls in my longs (both but more on the left one. I think due to fungus at work) Thanks again. cpmtVitamin D3 (6,000IU) with or without food. The correct test is 25(OH)D, also called 25-hydroxyvitamin D for Vit D levels. Optimal level 50-70ng/ml (nanograms) in the bloodstream for therapeutic uses. To treat Cancer & Heart disease levels 70-100ng/ml. >100ng/ml is excess. Vit D3 is found in eggs, organ meats, animal fat, cod liver oil, fish and from the sun. Helps prevent cancer and boosts immunity. An adequate level of this hormone is essential to recover from cancer and keep it from recurring. Vitamin D functions like a hormone to affect the immune system and protect against cancer. Rather than killing cancer cells outright, vitamin D appears to halt cancer by forcing “runaway” cells to differentiate—that is, to become more like normal cells. Karl                                mastergreener Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi, thank you. I have a question how do you know how much to take of vitm. D3? and what is alcar.=?? I am ok with sugar, i am not taking (except some -few- fruits) and very low in carbs. and I take vit.D3 1000, wich i will increase & turmeric /curcumin in all my meals (spice)I will get lipoic acid, and ______alcar.?? thank you for the tips, to tell you the truth i am depress, had pain all over, tired etc etc.. I need something to keep me up. At least I got good news yesterday. & i want to get rid of the nuduls in my longs (both but more on the left one. I think due to fungus at work) Thanks again. cpmt cpmty Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi, I'm living in Europe, Holland. I had those "nudules" in my lungs. After the chemo I studied what the best way would be to get strong again, to my view this should be vit. 5000 IU D3 daily//no sugar,carbonh.//salvestrols, now 8000 pnts daily//lipoic acid+alcar. This works fine for me. I am in a better shape than ever, I can hardly remember feeling so good, which is not normal after a heavy chemo/radiation/operation. 6 months after complting the regular treatment and my own self-treatment the nudeles apppeared to have gone. My doctor was very surprised and me? I hope that salvestrols are really that magical that they can also do thát. I can see my own patients again, it is wonderful to be back again. psychotherapist Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 25, 2013 12:12 PM cpmty wrote: tangerines: I am confused since recently I read about tangerines that even though they have components to fight cancer this benefits are destroyed by other compound that increases and causes the tumor to grow. Now I dont know to whom to listen. and who (a site)is doing studies on this. ???Hi cpmty, Salvestrols are extracted from these fruits. The whole fruit isn't used with ALL of its components. So the component you are referring isnt necessarily in the Salvestrol tablets. Look up what they are talking about exactly and then see if it's Salvestrols. Karl mastergreener Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT tangerines: I am confused since recently I read about tangerines that even though they have components to fight cancer this benefits are destroyed by other compound that increases and causes the tumor to grow. Now I dont know to whom to listen. and who (a site)is doing studies on this. ??? cpmty Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thanks Joan, I'm calling ALL the luck of the Irish in. They have her on anti-rejection drugs and a high dose of morphine like painkillers. Strongest you can be prescribed outside of hospital here. Conventional medicine here is so negetative and do not work with the patient for a better outcome. We have literally had to defy a lot of what some of the doctors have suggested. Their answers to most of the questions are "oh just stop taking ALL of those supplements. We didn't prescribe them so just don't take them." But on no factual basis. Its just a blanket outright NO. They won't think outside of the box or entertain that what we're doing is working. They were very surprised at my mam's progress on her last CT scan but they will never attribute that to what we're doing which is so frustrating and ignorant. I would LOVE a more complementary approach. This is the way conventional medicine needs to approach disease. The ONLY thing that was ever discussed with us for her recovery was Chemo and that was only to maybe stabilise the disease for a short time. No nutrional, lifestyle advice or anything else for that matter. She could be sitting at home doing no exercise, drinking alcohol all of the time and eating burgers and chips for all the doctors knew about it. That certainly wouldn't help her get better. So my point is that it was left to us to take on this journey of discovery to find the ways and means for healing. The doctors did not give us a healing option. Only a extended time option, which is NOT good enough! Bottom line is try to work with your doctors but if they aren't doing enough then you need to say "NO that's not enough". Stay in the driving seat of your own self healing ALWAYS!. Hope everyone achieves this some how, some way! Salvestrol might be one of those ways. So far I'm still confident that it is helping. Even a double blind clinical trial has it's fault and doesn't always reflect the truth fully. Salvestrol and many other alternative/complementary treatments can't hurt then why not try them if they are safe to do so. Karl mastergreener Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 25, 2013 9:14 AM mastergreener wrote: On Apr 23, 2013 4:22 PM AJoan wrote: On Apr 23, 2013 3:05 PM mastergreener wrote: Hi Joan, I thank you so much for sharing and getting this thread back on track. I am very happy to hear that you are getting positive results. All this news is encouraging. I have my mother taking Salvestrols (12,000pts daily) now since Nov 2012. She had multiple masses around her abdomen, pelvis areas. CT scan in Feb 2013 showed that one of the largest masses had reduced by 1cm. Many of the subcentimeter (<1cm) masses were unchanged. 1 of the lymph nodes in her pelvis area went from 3cm to 4cm. This is an increase fluctuation but she also had a severe infection in her kidney at the time and this could be the reason for the increase (fingers crossed!). The doctors were amazed at my mams scan results. They were very surprised that all of her masses have not started to grow back since stopping chemo in Oct 2012. They were so surprised that we were told that her scan results while during the oncology team meeting discussed the results openly and specifically. This is also encouraging news for us. We're doing something right so far anyway! Her next scan is in May. I am hoping for even better news. Hopefully that increase in the 1 of the masses will have reverted back in size or even better. Keep the hope alive, stay strong everyone! Strive for more knowledge and understanding and tell yourself "Today is a bad day for Cancer. Watch out Cancer!!".Hi Karl, Sounds like your mom is making excellent progress. How is she feeling? My doctor observes the patient, how they look, how they feel. He finds it to be a good indicator of what's happening.  Your mom is teaching her oncologists a thing or two. Good for her! Please keep us informed of her progress. I will be sending her (and you) energy. J. Thanks Joan, She had some kidney complications due to one of the lymph nodes restricting drainage which caused a serious infection which she did not recover from but not she has a stent in to keep the drainage flowing. Shes in a lot of pain due to the stent. Shes only out of the hospital from that ordeal 2 weeks so I'm hoping her body will readjust to the stent and the pain will go away. But before that she was great. Felt wonderful! We believe that the protocols that I am doing with her are working at least to some degree and Salvestrol is playing a big part in that. Hopefully we'll know more after the next scan. We decided that conventional medicines needs to be taught a lesson here in Ireland. She was given no alternative or prospects, so we had to make our own luck by researching. So far the end product has been positive and has caught an eye or 2 within the hospital she attends. KarlHi Karl, Sorry to hear your mom is in so much pain. Can the doctors help with that? One has to be so patient, even with Salvestrols. But you see a difference in her, which means she's going in the right direction. You are a great son. You're going to teach those oncologists a thing or two. You may just save other lives as well in the process. Thank you for sharing your mom's progress. I'm praying for her and trust in the luck of the Irish. Love and hugs, Joan AJoan Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 23, 2013 4:22 PM AJoan wrote: On Apr 23, 2013 3:05 PM mastergreener wrote: Hi Joan, I thank you so much for sharing and getting this thread back on track. I am very happy to hear that you are getting positive results. All this news is encouraging. I have my mother taking Salvestrols (12,000pts daily) now since Nov 2012. She had multiple masses around her abdomen, pelvis areas. CT scan in Feb 2013 showed that one of the largest masses had reduced by 1cm. Many of the subcentimeter (<1cm) masses were unchanged. 1 of the lymph nodes in her pelvis area went from 3cm to 4cm. This is an increase fluctuation but she also had a severe infection in her kidney at the time and this could be the reason for the increase (fingers crossed!). The doctors were amazed at my mams scan results. They were very surprised that all of her masses have not started to grow back since stopping chemo in Oct 2012. They were so surprised that we were told that her scan results while during the oncology team meeting discussed the results openly and specifically. This is also encouraging news for us. We're doing something right so far anyway! Her next scan is in May. I am hoping for even better news. Hopefully that increase in the 1 of the masses will have reverted back in size or even better. Keep the hope alive, stay strong everyone! Strive for more knowledge and understanding and tell yourself "Today is a bad day for Cancer. Watch out Cancer!!".Hi Karl, Sounds like your mom is making excellent progress. How is she feeling? My doctor observes the patient, how they look, how they feel. He finds it to be a good indicator of what's happening.  Your mom is teaching her oncologists a thing or two. Good for her! Please keep us informed of her progress. I will be sending her (and you) energy. J. Thanks Joan, She had some kidney complications due to one of the lymph nodes restricting drainage which caused a serious infection which she did not recover from but not she has a stent in to keep the drainage flowing. Shes in a lot of pain due to the stent. Shes only out of the hospital from that ordeal 2 weeks so I'm hoping her body will readjust to the stent and the pain will go away. But before that she was great. Felt wonderful! We believe that the protocols that I am doing with her are working at least to some degree and Salvestrol is playing a big part in that. Hopefully we'll know more after the next scan. We decided that conventional medicines needs to be taught a lesson here in Ireland. She was given no alternative or prospects, so we had to make our own luck by researching. So far the end product has been positive and has caught an eye or 2 within the hospital she attends. Karl mastergreener Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT thank you, i got the list. and I will google 7 generation to check on toxic free products. thanks again. cpmty Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Cpmty, Gerry Potter is a member here. You can send him a private message. Maybe it is useful when you share his answer here? Good luck!! Inde43 Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT I am happy for you. I will send you the link to get the Salvestrol in the US. It is not expensive and very good to take for preventative measures. If we can take the chemicals out of our lives and use proactive measures then we are doing everything we can, that is the best we can do. Look for the info in an email. Hugs to you. jesichashope Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT How do I contact Gerry Potter? i don't know how to do that. And thank you so much. I think I will do that too.(contacting Gerry abou it) The doctors told me not to do anything, and I am worry they may change to cancerous. I have them for several years and they do MRI' once or twice a year to check on them... it is too much radiation. i already have psiriosis in my face, I am alergic to the dye and they didn't know that (I guess some people are very allergic) . So I prefer to do something about it before something changes and gets bad. By the way, Nadine, my results are good - nothing on it- , I just comeback from the doc. in J H hosp. So I am happy. I still have to see the surgeon (a new one). Please send me the info. You have to my  e-address or here. I will also check the place you told me "7... (?)" AND, i went to a conference (or something like that) about toxic chemicals in our houses... very interesting and I learn a lot. I think the problems my kid are having is related to this toxic chemicals and that worries me.  cpmty Wed, 24 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Great link, there was a lot of info there and gives you some idea as to how and why it does what it does. I think it should also be a good preventative supplement; we cannot always stay away from everything in our environmnet that could potential be a threat to us; prevention is best. jesichashope Wed, 24 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Guys, I know that we are all information hungry here. So, I want to bring your attention to this excellent site, just in case you don't already know about it. Kaite Delaney is a molecular biologist and psysiologist who is the person who introduced me to Salvestrols. We both write for the same online publication called Street Articles, but about different topics. Kaite has an amazing amount of knowledge about nutrition and health. She's very interested in Salvestrols, and I'm directing you to a fascinating conversation she had with Gerry Potter in the comment section of her blog. I'll try to give you the link, but in case it isn't allowed, then you'll have to enter the info manually. http://naturalhealthmagazinenewsletter.wordpress.com/2012/02 Try this:  Mother's Natural Health Magazine You Have Not Even Heard of Salvestrols Yet? Will be interested in your impressions. Joan AJoan Wed, 24 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 23, 2013 8:22 PM Dochas wrote: Hi, Karl, thanks for the very encouraging news of your mother's progress. I hope that next month's scans continue to bring good news for her. I'd still love to hear from someone whose is a few years past diagnosis, treatment with salvestrols and recovery and is doing well. But maybe those people don't even look at the forums anymore ...  Joan, thanks for reminding us that elevated tumor marker readings in the first 3 months of treatment is not necessarily a sign that cancer is getting the upper hand - and indeed could be just the opposite with tumors breaking up and releasing markers into the blood. Apart from good general health (which you can expect unless a major organ was starting to be impacted), what else did your tests show that suggest that you can already be so optimistic at this point? I want to make sure that I ask the right questions when I see my doctor? DHope it is okay to copy a blog post in here. I know they won't allow a link, unless it's a private message. Wonder if you have read the following post. It's from a lady who had breast cancer several years ago, used Salvestrols and is cancer free. Check it out. Monday, 23 April 2012 Breast Cancer Survivor Recommends Salvestrol Platinum "I would like to say that I swear by a supplement called Salvestrol Platinum. I've been taking it since my diagnosis of stage 3 breast cancer 5 years ago in 2007. Like all natural things, there's no double-blind trials offering scientific 'proof' but the theory behind it makes sense to me so I'm going to keep taking it as long as I live, as it is meant to be highly 'anti-cancer' and as a bonus it seems to do wonders for my skin. After diagnosis, I stopped taking lymecyclene and thought I would just have to put up with nasty spots. But as soon as I started taking Salvestrols the improvement in my skin was astonishing and fast. They are not expensive at about £1 per day. I'm lucky that I can afford it - I buy supplements and good food rather than spend my money on meals out, etc. That's my suggestion. Good luck with whatever you decide to try. It's not my profession or anything to do with making money. This is material I researched myself upon diagnosis, because I wanted to try and help myself rather than rely just on what conventional medicine offers/insists on, and I think this advice will help others who have breast cancer. The main evidence I have is that I have recovered from cancer and feel much better than before I was diagnosed - and I mean both physically and mentally better. When I stray from my routine of diet and supplements, it shows in my skin very quickly - so I have come to believe my skin is a 'barometer' of my internal health.Salvestrols are based on the idea that the anti-fungal, anti-bacterial and anti-cancer properties of fruits and veg reside in the skin of the fruit and have been largely destroyed by food processing and the last 6 decades of industrial farming. So even if you eat lots of fruit and veg, they may no longer provide you with the healthy nutrients they did when agriculture was more natural, when the plants had to use their own immune systems to fight disease - rather than pesticides and fungicides doing this for them. So Salvestrols are made from older varieties of fruits and veg, ones that have not been industrially farmed, and therefore retain their own immune defenses which are beneficial when eaten. In terms of cancer, salvestrols are said to be able to break through the protein coating of cancer cells, and trigger an enzyme inside the cancer cell to make it die. That's the theory. Best wishes, B" AJoan Wed, 24 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT I am not sure. My doctor reported them missing on the scan. The nurse though wasnt too experienced and missed my vein trying to inject contrast fluid. They used the photo nevertheless as if it were o.k. Maybe the photo was okay and the spaghetti in my lungs is really gone psychotherapist Wed, 24 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT I will email you the url - You are on the right track. For washing your clothes and cleaning you can use seventh generation products, Meyers is another good cleaning product and you should find them locally. Amazing how much room you have in your cupboards or closet once you do not have all those chemical products. jesichashope Wed, 24 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thank you. where can I find that list? i didn't see it. I don't know of any organization site. And I do try to get organic, but it is very difficult in my area. ... its full of pestecides. Yesterday I went to a 'semi-conference" about chemicals in our lives... foods, water, cosmetics etc. Now I have to find a 'place' (google i guess)  that I can trust and get all my personal care products deodorants (even I use natural: milk of magnesia as a deodorant), soaps, shampoos, tooth paste etc... and to try get organic. THANK you soooo much again. Please if you know how to get that organization site, let me know. cpmty Wed, 24 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 23, 2013 9:05 PM cpmty wrote: DOES anyone knows if salvestrol will help with nudules in the lungs?(non-cancerous) I have some but my doctor doesn't do anything. Joan or Nadine do you know if it will help me? Thnk you.You would have to ask, if anything it would no doubt help to keep cancer away. If you doctor is not concerned right now, just keep it in check. Get on a good diet that has NO chemicals in it, use organic when you can. There is a shopping list on the organization site for shopping fruits and vegetables so you eat safely.  Some good tips on getting chemicals out of your cleaning, bathing etc too. It all adds up to getting your body and environent clean. jesichashope Wed, 24 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 23, 2013 9:05 PM cpmty wrote: DOES anyone knows if salvestrol will help with nudules in the lungs?(non-cancerous) I have some but my doctor doesn't do anything. Joan or Nadine do you know if it will help me? Thnk you.I don't know. Salvestrols act on cancer cells, and need CYP1B1 in order to destroy cancer. They may prevent the nodules from ever becoming cancerous. I think you should ask Gerry Potter about it. Send him a private message. AJoan Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 23, 2013 8:22 PM Dochas wrote: Hi, Karl, thanks for the very encouraging news of your mother's progress. I hope that next month's scans continue to bring good news for her. I'd still love to hear from someone whose is a few years past diagnosis, treatment with salvestrols and recovery and is doing well. But maybe those people don't even look at the forums anymore ...  Joan, thanks for reminding us that elevated tumor marker readings in the first 3 months of treatment is not necessarily a sign that cancer is getting the upper hand - and indeed could be just the opposite with tumors breaking up and releasing markers into the blood. Apart from good general health (which you can expect unless a major organ was starting to be impacted), what else did your tests show that suggest that you can already be so optimistic at this point? I want to make sure that I ask the right questions when I see my doctor? DHi Dochas, Included with the markers were an assortment of other tests, such as glucose levels, cholesterol, beta carotene, iron, calcium, triglycerides, etc, etc. Ideally, one wants to get all these numbers within normal range. Everything has an impact on cancer. If you are generally healthy, that is an important advantage in defeating the disease. One thing I was really happy to learn is that my hsCRP number came way down. That's the number that indicates inflammation in your body. In that cancer is associated with inflammation, that was a great sign for me. It's also been an ongoing issue. Honestly don't know what I can attribute to my reduction in inflammation. My diet has been close to perfect for a year. The only change I made was Salvestrols. I'm like you. Would also love to hear from someone who is a few years past diagnosis, has been treated successfully with Salvestrols, is in remission and doing well. That'll be me in a few months. Right now, all I can say is that I seem to be moving in the right direction. Yes, I have guarded optimism and faith that my therapies are working. The basis of my optimism is that the elevated markers from my last test are right on cue. That's not a negative when you start Salvestrols. If nothing happened, I would wonder if the Salvestrols were doing anything at all. Also, Gerry has given me encouragement. Coming from him, I'll take it. Doctors tend to be non-commital. They takes things one step at a time. I'll be tested again in 3 months. So far, according to my doctor,  I'm doing well. It's too soon for me to be an example of someone who can provide complete reassurance that Salvestrols work. Did you read Brian Schaefer's book: "Salvestrols Nature's Defence Against Cancer"? In it he explains that some people react faster to Salvestrols than others. Some can take up to a year to go into remission. I may be one who takes longer. You may react faster. Or not. That being said, my doctor has had impressive results already with a couple breast cancer patients and a prostate cancer patient. He started people on Salvestrols just 3 months ago. He is cautiously optimistic. He wouldn't have incorporated Salvestrols into his protocol if he were not sufficiently impressed with the science of it.  I sincerely hope people who have experienced a remission with Salvestrols come forward and share their stories with us. Does your doctor have patients on Salvestrols? Ask him about their progress and when he thinks you can expect to see positve results. While you're at it, ask him how he feels about Vitamin K. It's present in leafy green vegetables and cottage cheese. Cottage cheese is a principal part of the Budwig diet. Leafy greens are an essential part of the cancer diet. I'm taking a K supplement. Please share whatever information you have with us and tell us how you are. Did I make any sense at all? Regards, Joan AJoan Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT DOES anyone knows if salvestrol will help with nudules in the lungs?(non-cancerous) I have some but my doctor doesn't do anything. Joan or Nadine do you know if it will help me? Thnk you. cpmty Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Absolutely praying for her.  You are right the side effects are far outreaching and often are worse than the disease. Once she is doing well with the Salvestrol then work on the healing of the scar tissue. There is one thing I know that helps dissolve the scar tissue and she might want to look into it as she is feeling stronger. Blessings jesichashope Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi, Karl, thanks for the very encouraging news of your mother's progress. I hope that next month's scans continue to bring good news for her. I'd still love to hear from someone whose is a few years past diagnosis, treatment with salvestrols and recovery and is doing well. But maybe those people don't even look at the forums anymore ...  Joan, thanks for reminding us that elevated tumor marker readings in the first 3 months of treatment is not necessarily a sign that cancer is getting the upper hand - and indeed could be just the opposite with tumors breaking up and releasing markers into the blood. Apart from good general health (which you can expect unless a major organ was starting to be impacted), what else did your tests show that suggest that you can already be so optimistic at this point? I want to make sure that I ask the right questions when I see my doctor? D Dochas Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT My mum was diagnosed with stage 4 Oesophagal cancer last Feb 2012 and givern 8 months to live. The primary tumour had spread to the lungs. She had chemo last July and this shrunk the tumour but nodules in the lungs remaiined.She had radiotherapy 12th Feb and has been taking Salvestrols 12000 points a day since Feb 22nd. Her last endoscope they said that they could see the scarring from the radiotherapy but not the cancer though she was still very swolen and scarred from the radiotherapy. Praying she has a scan soon and that the Salvestrol has zapped the lungs. If it has can only be the Salvestrol as she has had nothing fr the lungs since last July . She is also looking and feeling great though the side effects from radiotherapy seem to outweigh the benefiits from what I hear for her anyway. Please pray for my mum xxx Kazzamama Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 23, 2013 10:45 AM mastergreener wrote: Hi Guys, Can we also get back to talking about Salvestrol as that is the purpose of this thread. It was great information when the talking was about how to get Salvestrol to work in 100% of people. Thanks, Karl Hear Hear Also, if you absolutely must mention another therapy (perhaps to assist-compliment Salvestrols) lets see some research/testimomial/case history sources quoted to back it up. We've just had about 4 pages of white magic. jpbcl Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 23, 2013 3:05 PM mastergreener wrote: Hi Joan, I thank you so much for sharing and getting this thread back on track. I am very happy to hear that you are getting positive results. All this news is encouraging. I have my mother taking Salvestrols (12,000pts daily) now since Nov 2012. She had multiple masses around her abdomen, pelvis areas. CT scan in Feb 2013 showed that one of the largest masses had reduced by 1cm. Many of the subcentimeter (<1cm) masses were unchanged. 1 of the lymph nodes in her pelvis area went from 3cm to 4cm. This is an increase fluctuation but she also had a severe infection in her kidney at the time and this could be the reason for the increase (fingers crossed!). The doctors were amazed at my mams scan results. They were very surprised that all of her masses have not started to grow back since stopping chemo in Oct 2012. They were so surprised that we were told that her scan results while during the oncology team meeting discussed the results openly and specifically. This is also encouraging news for us. We're doing something right so far anyway! Her next scan is in May. I am hoping for even better news. Hopefully that increase in the 1 of the masses will have reverted back in size or even better. Keep the hope alive, stay strong everyone! Strive for more knowledge and understanding and tell yourself "Today is a bad day for Cancer. Watch out Cancer!!".Hi Karl, Sounds like your mom is making excellent progress. How is she feeling? My doctor observes the patient, how they look, how they feel. He finds it to be a good indicator of what's happening.  Your mom is teaching her oncologists a thing or two. Good for her! Please keep us informed of her progress. I will be sending her (and you) energy. J. AJoan Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 23, 2013 1:54 PM calin wrote: Hi Joan, Thanks for sharing Gerry's private message. I am encouraged that Gerry is doing lectures and getting feedback on salvestrols. He seemed to be back answering questions. Your doctor seems enthusaitic as well! Will be excited to hear of your next blood results! Best wishes on your healing! It's exciting Calin. I think we're all making history. We are pioneers in the defeat of cancer. That's big! I will share info as we go forward. Very interested in learning of your progress as well. We're learning from each other and from Gerry. J. AJoan Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 23, 2013 1:44 PM bigsky20 wrote: Joan, It's great to hear that you're doing so well!! I can't wait to go back on Salvestrols and this is such encouraging news. Even though I'm not taking them at this time, I still follow all your posts and I'm ordering some of the supplements that you take. Thank you for all your information and all of you are in my prayers.Hi bigsky, Thank you. I'm being cautiously optimistic. I feel all we have to do to beat cancer is to think perfect health ( don't fool yourself "believe"), take the supplements that will support your body, don't relent, be doggedly determined, trust, and be lovingly patient. We can do it! J. AJoan Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Joan, I thank you so much for sharing and getting this thread back on track. I am very happy to hear that you are getting positive results. All this news is encouraging. I have my mother taking Salvestrols (12,000pts daily) now since Nov 2012. She had multiple masses around her abdomen, pelvis areas. CT scan in Feb 2013 showed that one of the largest masses had reduced by 1cm. Many of the subcentimeter (<1cm) masses were unchanged. 1 of the lymph nodes in her pelvis area went from 3cm to 4cm. This is an increase fluctuation but she also had a severe infection in her kidney at the time and this could be the reason for the increase (fingers crossed!). The doctors were amazed at my mams scan results. They were very surprised that all of her masses have not started to grow back since stopping chemo in Oct 2012. They were so surprised that we were told that her scan results while during the oncology team meeting discussed the results openly and specifically. This is also encouraging news for us. We're doing something right so far anyway! Her next scan is in May. I am hoping for even better news. Hopefully that increase in the 1 of the masses will have reverted back in size or even better. Keep the hope alive, stay strong everyone! Strive for more knowledge and understanding and tell yourself "Today is a bad day for Cancer. Watch out Cancer!!". mastergreener Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT That is very good news Joan! I'm so happy for you!! Inde43 Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Joan, Thanks for sharing Gerry's private message. I am encouraged that Gerry is doing lectures and getting feedback on salvestrols. He seemed to be back answering questions. Your doctor seems enthusaitic as well! Will be excited to hear of your next blood results! Best wishes on your healing! calin Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Joan, It's great to hear that you're doing so well!! I can't wait to go back on Salvestrols and this is such encouraging news. Even though I'm not taking them at this time, I still follow all your posts and I'm ordering some of the supplements that you take. Thank you for all your information and all of you are in my prayers. bigsky20 Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 23, 2013 10:45 AM mastergreener wrote: Hi Guys, Can we also get back to talking about Salvestrol as that is the purpose of this thread. It was great information when the talking was about how to get Salvestrol to work in 100% of people. Thanks, Karl Dear Karl, I like to share good news. As I posted in this thread (about a week ago), I had markers done after just 2 1/2 months on Salvestrols, and I shared the results of the test in a message to Gerry. My markers (CEA and CA) were considerably elevated, which I expected since Salvestrols work at removing cancer cells, and the markers end up in the bloodstream. Was fully prepared for that, and it caused no angst whatsoever. Gerry responded by saying: "Your progress so far sounds encouraging and the increase in cancer markers is to be expected initially as the treatment works at removing cancer cells and the markers end up in the bloodsream causing an elevation in the test results. Eventually after 3 months this should start to come down as the tumours die off." Gerry was recently the key note speaker at a conference in Amsterdam, which was all about alternative cancer therapies. Present at the conference were a number of medical doctors from all over Europe. They were happy to relay to Gerry that they were having success with all kinds of cancer with the use of salvestrols, even with brain cancer. Some of the most encouraging successes have been with breast and prostate cancer.  I'm sure Gerry won't mind me sharing this info. My own doctor is starting to see very good results with Salvestrols. He's cautiously enthusiastic. He started using Salvestrols with patients just 3 months ago.   Like any natural treatment, we have to be patient. Mother Nature works at her own speed and doesn't punch any time clocks. We can't bully Her. Our bodies have wisdom, and will throw off cancer at a rate that is in the best interest of the body.  My doctor, who is very scientific and practical, advises me to listen carefully to my intuition and inner guidance. I think that is very advanced thinking and I respect him for that. I think this treatment is worthy of trust. And it certainly won't hurt you. Will keep you posted as to my progress. Love and health to you. Joan AJoan Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Guys, Can we also get back to talking about Salvestrol as that is the purpose of this thread. It was great information when the talking was about how to get Salvestrol to work in 100% of people. Thanks, Karl mastergreener Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi, I have been following this interesting thread for months. While it is great to hear that there are hopeful signs that some of the treatments you are taking are working and to publish it on your site Jesichashope, what we really need is to hear from some of the people who started this thread 2 1/2 years ago. How are they doing? 2 1/2 months is way too soon to draw conclusions and it is difficult to say that salvestrols are doing a good job when there are other treatments being taken too. Looking forward to hearing of your continued good health in the future. Dochas  Dochas Mon, 22 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT I DID find the oil, and I will get it, I just hope instructions are in English and explain how to use it. Thank you. It seems it is probably the same thing you are talking about. They also sell it in powder, I think. How do you use the one your have? Thank you for all your help and advise. cpmty Sun, 21 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT I sent you the link to where I buy the black seed oil when my friend is not able to provide me; it is the exact thing. I only use this as I said it is the purest I find. I just used mine this week for my little boy with a sore throat, it cured it in hours. I had a spider bite that made a nasty sore, I used the oil and by weeks end it was totally healed. Love the stuff. Let me know about the reports and your vist to dr. G. Your open mind and looking at options you will find your answer, you will know it in your heart, God will direct you, follow his guidance. jesichashope Sat, 20 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thank you Joan, thanks again for all your help. I will make an appointment for dr. Gonzales and I am sure he will prescribe enzymes probably and other stuff. You have been very helpfull and I hope God bless you too. celia cpmty Sat, 20 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thank you so much If your African friend has it (sell it) please let me know. In the meant time I will check the internet but to tell you the truth i don't trust anything on the internet; and i know some are selling the real thing but I don't know how to distinguish the good one from the fake. any way, I really thank you for all your help and advise, you are an angel on earth (and some other people here too) and I hope God bless you for all you are doing. I will let you know after I see dr. Gonzales, I hope he can help me. I only can do one thing at the time (now I am looking for one - as I told you privatly- dr. then I will make the appointment with dr. Gonzales.  cpmty Sat, 20 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT If you google the name as I posted you will find it, the exact oil I get. When my friend runs out before returning I get it online but always look up the Arabic name to get the original cold pressed organic oil. Other may have it too but since I have found this one to really work I stick to this one. The black seasame seeds are different with different properties. Your welcome jesichashope Sat, 20 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 20, 2013 1:04 AM cpmty wrote: DID YOU dad tried B17? or cannabis oil? I also heard cumin (nigella??)  black oil is good for cancer (used in the Middle East and Africa) . I don't know where can you get it. Good luck, I hope something will help him. Just don't lose your hope. I don't know where you live but in NEW YORK CITY some one told me there is a doctor that is good and many people goes to him, I think I am going to do that, (I've been checking things for the last few weeks, if that doesn't work for me I will go to Mexico) any way his name is Nicholas Gonzalez. AND I also heard that some people with cancer  take pancreatic enzymes. (I don't no much about it either, some naturopaths prescribe them, i guess)Dr. Gonzales uses pancreatic enzymes in the treatment of cancer. My doctor does too. J. AJoan Sat, 20 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT do you know anything about this product? have you tried?  It will be nice to hear from people who did try. Thank you. cpmty Sat, 20 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT coconut water, milk, cookies will help with diarrhea. also its natural antibiotic, anti bacterial, anti viral, anti fungal etc...(according to a book) cpmty Sat, 20 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT yes, it's cumin black seeds oil. What I will like to know is where does this friend of your - from Africa- lives? maybe I can get it too. it is also called ( I think 'nigellia ' ??? something like that, I can't remember now. I have very bad memory). they also have sesame black seeds in China but I don't think are used the same way. Thank you for the information.  cpmty Sat, 20 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT I use the Black Seed Oil. Use it for throat problems, skin problems, immune system, so many things, it is very good and does help with cancer, in Africa they use it for blood cancers with great results. They are a nation where natural healing is the norm. I use : Habet El Baraka Oil, it is what you call it in Arabic, very pure organic and cold pressed.  I get if from an African woman I met after my accident and she helped me much, she brings it back from Africa when she goes there twice a year.  We swear by it. Put it on sores or burns, heals it quickly.  You can find it by Goggling Habet El Baraka oil, you will find El Capitain brand which is what I get. The packaging is all Arabic in a yellow box. It is the exact product doctors in Africa and other such countries use. jesichashope Sat, 20 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT DID YOU dad tried B17? or cannabis oil? I also heard cumin (nigella??)  black oil is good for cancer (used in the Middle East and Africa) . I don't know where can you get it. Good luck, I hope something will help him. Just don't lose your hope. I don't know where you live but in NEW YORK CITY some one told me there is a doctor that is good and many people goes to him, I think I am going to do that, (I've been checking things for the last few weeks, if that doesn't work for me I will go to Mexico) any way his name is Nicholas Gonzalez. AND I also heard that some people with cancer  take pancreatic enzymes. (I don't no much about it either, some naturopaths prescribe them, i guess) cpmty Sat, 20 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT sorry, I don't know how I misspelled the name its HIPOCRATES INSTITUTE.  cpmty Sat, 20 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thank you you also pay in EUROS.. big difference... lots of more money than Mejico, or evern USA. When I went to Fla. Hypodrates Health Institure -clinic- there were many people from Europe and the love it because Here in USA we have great places that look  and feel paradise. They also have any kind of machines, saunas, pools, and they try different therapies But they use raw vegan (no fruits, no meats, eggs, milk products etc..) when I was there I missed fruits and eggs. no so much the meats. But I loved tha place. the people are very nice and helpful. people went there for health problems including diabetes (me) cancer (me) and others health problems. But they don't give you B17, or cannabis oil or other stuff like that, to get that you must know someone here in the US or go to Mexico. I still will check the European clinics since I am from Europe (but what is restricting me to go there is the higher €€€ amount) I still will like to know of those places. Thank you for mentioning them. I also heard of places in Check Republic and Russia ... but don't know anything else. cpmty Sat, 20 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 18, 2013 11:42 PM calin wrote: It was good to hear of your update Joan! High five five for "HSCPR, the indicator for inflamation is down" !!!!! I started my sister on salvestrols (6000 per Gerry's instruction) last month. She was told that with radiation and chemo, she would have 6 months to live. We are on month 5 from that time frame. She has terminal lung cancer. My sister continues to smoke.. albeit less. The salvestrols has helped her mood and decreased her depression as Gerry mentioned they would in one of his posts... I guess it is the T30. So, that is working for her!! I believe the salvestrols have also helped with the side effects of chemo. They lingered forever in her body. Sheis on hospice/palliative care now. So....  She no longer is vomiting or gagging. Her appetitie is returning and she bounced back from pneumonia  fairly quickly recently. She leaves the nursing facility for hours at time for shopping and other "I need to get away" reasons! ;) So, she is far from being bedridden in pain from terminal cancer with a month to go. Hopefully, now that she is able to eat again, she will gain some weight... 87 pounds is all bones and skin! The chemo just made her miserable and sick. Nothing changed as far as the tumors in her lungs. I decided to start her on Essaic tea and alternate it with Dandelion Tea along with her salvestrol dosage. Google "Cancer killing dandelion tea gets $157K research grant". I would put a link... but.... you know!  ;) I did this as she still smokes and we know that carbon monoxide inhibits the CYP1B1. GP said to go ahead and try the salvestrols. I understand that the CYP1B1 inhibition lasts about three days. She is to make sure she takes a couple before bed when she is not likely to smoke for some hours. My sister was all about what the doctors told her... she had 6 months. It took some convincing to get her to agree to try salvestrols. She doesn't have any money (is on medicare), so I am paying for it. That bothered her at first (as she was depressed) that I am spending money on her... but she has gotten over that as her mood has brightened. She is talking about a future now. Sounds as if you have good news there too Calin. Great! Your sister is responding to Salvestrols. Yea! Wonder why Gerry didn't recommend 12,000 points per day for such an advanced case. My prayers are that she leaves hospice on roller skates. Thanks for the high five. Keep us posted on your sister's progress. Best regards, Joan AJoan Fri, 19 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 19, 2013 3:32 AM calin wrote: On Apr 19, 2013 2:15 AM patromano wrote: On Apr 18, 2013 11:42 PM calin wrote: It was good to hear of your update Joan! High five five for "HSCPR, the indicator for inflamation is down" !!!!! I started my sister on salvestrols (6000 per Gerry's instruction) last month. She was told that with radiation and chemo, she would have 6 months to live. We are on month 5 from that time frame. She has terminal lung cancer. My sister continues to smoke.. albeit less. The salvestrols has helped her mood and decreased her depression as Gerry mentioned they would in one of his posts... I guess it is the T30. So, that is working for her!! I believe the salvestrols have also helped with the side effects of chemo. They lingered forever in her body. Sheis on hospice/palliative care now. So....  She no longer is vomiting or gagging. Her appetitie is returning and she bounced back from pneumonia  fairly quickly recently. She leaves the nursing facility for hours at time for shopping and other "I need to get away" reasons! ;) So, she is far from being bedridden in pain from terminal cancer with a month to go. Hopefully, now that she is able to eat again, she will gain some weight... 87 pounds is all bones and skin! The chemo just made her miserable and sick. Nothing changed as far as the tumors in her lungs. I decided to start her on Essaic tea and alternate it with Dandelion Tea along with her salvestrol dosage. Google "Cancer killing dandelion tea gets $157K research grant". I would put a link... but.... you know!  ;) I did this as she still smokes and we know that carbon monoxide inhibits the CYP1B1. GP said to go ahead and try the salvestrols. I understand that the CYP1B1 inhibition lasts about three days. She is to make sure she takes a couple before bed when she is not likely to smoke for some hours. My sister was all about what the doctors told her... she had 6 months. It took some convincing to get her to agree to try salvestrols. She doesn't have any money (is on medicare), so I am paying for it. That bothered her at first (as she was depressed) that I am spending money on her... but she has gotten over that as her mood has brightened. She is talking about a future now. Hi Calin, Re alternating Essiac and dandelion root tea- I also have my dad on those along with 6000 pts of Salv. Plat. I noticed you alternate them. Do you know if it is recommended to alternate them daily- one day Essiac then next day dandelion? At the moment my dad is taking them both on the same day- twice/day Essiac + twice/ day dandelion. Hope your sister manages to gain some weight and pulls through her terrible diagnosis. PatHi Pat, By alternating them, I am using up the florEssence bottle and then moving on to the dandelion organic tea bags. When she does that for 4-6 weeks I will go back to the concentrated Essaic tea. Etc... Or, I may use the Essaic tea bags and do both. Does your dad have any problems doing both at the same time? The Floressence is rather expensive. How do you prepare the Essaic? Do you use the bags? rRght now she says she has some constipation - probalbly due to the meds. I suggested she take the dandelion tea along with her Essaic mix tonight. The Dandelion tea helps with diarrhea and constipation from what I am reading. So your dad and my sis are doing the same things! haha - how cool its that??! You are so kind. How is your dad doing? Calin Hi Calin, It looks like you are experimenting as I am. My dad seems to be OK taking them both daily. Some days he is feeling extra tired or weak but I don't know the reason- old age, cancer growing, supplements/diet , lack of sleep, effects from radiation? Perhaps it's better to alternate the teas separately?? The uncertainty of trying to treat oneself can be unnerving and daunting.  We follow the instructions of when to take the Essiac. I think the box  said to take it a couple of hours before meals. The dandelion tea is taken in between.  The dandelion tea instructions says to take 6 bags/day and discontinue after 2 weeks. My dad is only taking 2 bags/day and hopefully we can extend its use for up to 3 months if he doesn't get any bad reaction from it. So far so good.   The Essiac comes in powder form- not in bags. I followed the instructions on how to make it- boiling, letting it sit for hours, etc... a bit time consuming and a bit messy but fairly simple to make.  Pat patromano Fri, 19 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 19, 2013 2:15 AM patromano wrote: On Apr 18, 2013 11:42 PM calin wrote: It was good to hear of your update Joan! High five five for "HSCPR, the indicator for inflamation is down" !!!!! I started my sister on salvestrols (6000 per Gerry's instruction) last month. She was told that with radiation and chemo, she would have 6 months to live. We are on month 5 from that time frame. She has terminal lung cancer. My sister continues to smoke.. albeit less. The salvestrols has helped her mood and decreased her depression as Gerry mentioned they would in one of his posts... I guess it is the T30. So, that is working for her!! I believe the salvestrols have also helped with the side effects of chemo. They lingered forever in her body. Sheis on hospice/palliative care now. So....  She no longer is vomiting or gagging. Her appetitie is returning and she bounced back from pneumonia  fairly quickly recently. She leaves the nursing facility for hours at time for shopping and other "I need to get away" reasons! ;) So, she is far from being bedridden in pain from terminal cancer with a month to go. Hopefully, now that she is able to eat again, she will gain some weight... 87 pounds is all bones and skin! The chemo just made her miserable and sick. Nothing changed as far as the tumors in her lungs. I decided to start her on Essaic tea and alternate it with Dandelion Tea along with her salvestrol dosage. Google "Cancer killing dandelion tea gets $157K research grant". I would put a link... but.... you know!  ;) I did this as she still smokes and we know that carbon monoxide inhibits the CYP1B1. GP said to go ahead and try the salvestrols. I understand that the CYP1B1 inhibition lasts about three days. She is to make sure she takes a couple before bed when she is not likely to smoke for some hours. My sister was all about what the doctors told her... she had 6 months. It took some convincing to get her to agree to try salvestrols. She doesn't have any money (is on medicare), so I am paying for it. That bothered her at first (as she was depressed) that I am spending money on her... but she has gotten over that as her mood has brightened. She is talking about a future now. Hi Calin, Re alternating Essiac and dandelion root tea- I also have my dad on those along with 6000 pts of Salv. Plat. I noticed you alternate them. Do you know if it is recommended to alternate them daily- one day Essiac then next day dandelion? At the moment my dad is taking them both on the same day- twice/day Essiac + twice/ day dandelion. Hope your sister manages to gain some weight and pulls through her terrible diagnosis. PatHi Pat, By alternating them, I am using up the florEssence bottle and then moving on to the dandelion organic tea bags. When she does that for 4-6 weeks I will go back to the concentrated Essaic tea. Etc... Or, I may use the Essaic tea bags and do both. Does your dad have any problems doing both at the same time? The Floressence is rather expensive. How do you prepare the Essaic? Do you use the bags? rRght now she says she has some constipation - probalbly due to the meds. I suggested she take the dandelion tea along with her Essaic mix tonight. The Dandelion tea helps with diarrhea and constipation from what I am reading. So your dad and my sis are doing the same things! haha - how cool its that??! You are so kind. How is your dad doing? Calin calin Fri, 19 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 18, 2013 11:42 PM calin wrote: It was good to hear of your update Joan! High five five for "HSCPR, the indicator for inflamation is down" !!!!! I started my sister on salvestrols (6000 per Gerry's instruction) last month. She was told that with radiation and chemo, she would have 6 months to live. We are on month 5 from that time frame. She has terminal lung cancer. My sister continues to smoke.. albeit less. The salvestrols has helped her mood and decreased her depression as Gerry mentioned they would in one of his posts... I guess it is the T30. So, that is working for her!! I believe the salvestrols have also helped with the side effects of chemo. They lingered forever in her body. Sheis on hospice/palliative care now. So....  She no longer is vomiting or gagging. Her appetitie is returning and she bounced back from pneumonia  fairly quickly recently. She leaves the nursing facility for hours at time for shopping and other "I need to get away" reasons! ;) So, she is far from being bedridden in pain from terminal cancer with a month to go. Hopefully, now that she is able to eat again, she will gain some weight... 87 pounds is all bones and skin! The chemo just made her miserable and sick. Nothing changed as far as the tumors in her lungs. I decided to start her on Essaic tea and alternate it with Dandelion Tea along with her salvestrol dosage. Google "Cancer killing dandelion tea gets $157K research grant". I would put a link... but.... you know!  ;) I did this as she still smokes and we know that carbon monoxide inhibits the CYP1B1. GP said to go ahead and try the salvestrols. I understand that the CYP1B1 inhibition lasts about three days. She is to make sure she takes a couple before bed when she is not likely to smoke for some hours. My sister was all about what the doctors told her... she had 6 months. It took some convincing to get her to agree to try salvestrols. She doesn't have any money (is on medicare), so I am paying for it. That bothered her at first (as she was depressed) that I am spending money on her... but she has gotten over that as her mood has brightened. She is talking about a future now. Hi Calin, Re alternating Essiac and dandelion root tea- I also have my dad on those along with 6000 pts of Salv. Plat. I noticed you alternate them. Do you know if it is recommended to alternate them daily- one day Essiac then next day dandelion? At the moment my dad is taking them both on the same day- twice/day Essiac + twice/ day dandelion. Hope your sister manages to gain some weight and pulls through her terrible diagnosis. Pat patromano Fri, 19 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Yes, I google "new generation ipt" and get hits only from this site. What is it? Is it just IPT? For those contemplating natural cancer clinics, there are also German Cancer Clinics (google this) as well as some in Swizterland and other European countries. For Europeans and even Australians, these would be a better option than Mexico, due to proximity more than anything. They also clean out the body of toxins with natural foods allowing treatments, including salvestrols to work better. They're like holiday camps more than hospitals and that's always better psycologically for the patient.     Macdon Fri, 19 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT There is a doctor, Dr Bautista in Tijuana that I know does IPT. It is called: Insulin Potentiation Therapy and is a treatment using insulin and low dose chemo. If you want to understand it Dr. Donato's site who is credited for developing this treatment from his father's treatment in the 80's. You can most likely contact Donato and find a place perhaps in the US. Donato has had numerous trainings to train doctors all over the world to do it. Though according to what I have read IPT began just south of our border in Mexico some thirty plus years ago. Google: iptldmd dot com or google Dr. Donato IPT and you will find it either way. Hope this gives you the info you need. And some of the treatments depending on your condition and what degree of chemo compromise you have, some treatments have percentage rates at 50, 60 to 90 percent. My daughter was given an 80% rate of success at the clinic and did meet this, her chemo compromise was just too much for the body to recover from. We have to be aware of this. Normal 0 false false false EN-US X-NONE X-NONE MicrosoftInternetExplorer4 jesichashope Fri, 19 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 19, 2013 12:23 AM jpbcl wrote: Jesichashope I am conscious that this is a Salvestrol thread. So could you direct us to a thread/source that actually provides real verifiable information on BX Antitoxin and its effigacy. All I can find is a Clinic in Panama who naturally suggest it's wonderful. No independent evidence, testimonials, research outcomes, discussion etc appear available anywhere. (just a video hype) This is also a problem with Salvestrols. With the exception of Professor Potters very impressive writings there is precious little else to go on. Nonetheless with Salvestrol there is some information, with BT Antitoxin, it would appear nothing Check on You Tube - search "Dan Burke and salvestrols". It's a  7 part video on salvestrols and the research. Also, read the book -Salvestrols, Nature's Defence against Cancer by Brian Schaefer. Google Salvestrol Case Studies. There are about 11-13 of them published at different dates. The Health Action Network (HANS) sent me a free video when I joined. "Latest Developments in Salvestrol Cancer therapy". It is from 2006 I think. Dan Burke is also presenting in that one. calin Fri, 19 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT I don't know of a clinic in Panama but the Research Center is in Panama, if went to site called mybxprotocol then you hit the research center. There is a lot of info on the site, some videos but have not had a naturapath that I have talked to tell me he thought is was hype, very scientfic. I got to meet the head scientist through Jesicha's doctor, he understands and likes the jesichashope mission of support. The science behind it is impressive. I don't have anything to do with it only to add it to my resources. Some clients have picked it and I can tell you all have gotten very positive results. None have had no reaction.  I cannot talk about the clients here but you can always privately talk. And yes this is a Salvestrol thread, but both deserve to be considered when all else fails.  I would. I cannot even dream of using chemo after Jesicha. jesichashope Fri, 19 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Jesichashope I am conscious that this is a Salvestrol thread. So could you direct us to a thread/source that actually provides real verifiable information on BX Antitoxin and its effigacy. All I can find is a Clinic in Panama who naturally suggest it's wonderful. No independent evidence, testimonials, research outcomes, discussion etc appear available anywhere. (just a video hype) This is also a problem with Salvestrols. With the exception of Professor Potters very impressive writings there is precious little else to go on. Nonetheless with Salvestrol there is some information, with BT Antitoxin, it would appear nothing jpbcl Fri, 19 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Jennette can you explain what is NEW GENERATION IPT? Do you know anything about treatments in China, or clinics? Someone went to Russia but she never wrote anything about his treatment or if it worked. It would be nice people write if they have good results of other treatments. I know there is not a one treatment that is 100% effective (yet) so, any % is better than nothing (at least 20%+). Thank you. cp cpmty Fri, 19 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT It was good to hear of your update Joan! High five five for "HSCPR, the indicator for inflamation is down" !!!!! I started my sister on salvestrols (6000 per Gerry's instruction) last month. She was told that with radiation and chemo, she would have 6 months to live. We are on month 5 from that time frame. She has terminal lung cancer. My sister continues to smoke.. albeit less. The salvestrols has helped her mood and decreased her depression as Gerry mentioned they would in one of his posts... I guess it is the T30. So, that is working for her!! I believe the salvestrols have also helped with the side effects of chemo. They lingered forever in her body. Sheis on hospice/palliative care now. So....  She no longer is vomiting or gagging. Her appetitie is returning and she bounced back from pneumonia  fairly quickly recently. She leaves the nursing facility for hours at time for shopping and other "I need to get away" reasons! ;) So, she is far from being bedridden in pain from terminal cancer with a month to go. Hopefully, now that she is able to eat again, she will gain some weight... 87 pounds is all bones and skin! The chemo just made her miserable and sick. Nothing changed as far as the tumors in her lungs. I decided to start her on Essaic tea and alternate it with Dandelion Tea along with her salvestrol dosage. Google "Cancer killing dandelion tea gets $157K research grant". I would put a link... but.... you know!  ;) I did this as she still smokes and we know that carbon monoxide inhibits the CYP1B1. GP said to go ahead and try the salvestrols. I understand that the CYP1B1 inhibition lasts about three days. She is to make sure she takes a couple before bed when she is not likely to smoke for some hours. My sister was all about what the doctors told her... she had 6 months. It took some convincing to get her to agree to try salvestrols. She doesn't have any money (is on medicare), so I am paying for it. That bothered her at first (as she was depressed) that I am spending money on her... but she has gotten over that as her mood has brightened. She is talking about a future now. calin Thu, 18 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Joan, I would like very much to put the information on Salvestrol up on the organization website for others to read about. As much resources that are proven to work that I can find I want to put up there. If you have any good information and/or links you know are good please send them to me at jesichashope with org [nadine] Your story and so far good reaction to it impresses me for sure. I know with the BX Antitoxin the same effect is often seen, blood markers go up before seen going down, it is actually a good indication the treatment is working as the body gives off certain elements in response to a reaction to the cancer cells being targeted. If it is anything like the BX you should see the markers fall on you next blood work.  I have noticed too, most of these types of treatments go through phase patterns, killing off, detoxing, rebuiling and restoring.  It is the way nature has intended the body to heal. I know your feeling abou your sister, we know we cannot get them back no matter what happened.  We can only tell our story in hopes someone that is meant to hear it, will hear it and save a life.  That is how Jesicha's Hope started, she began it in Mexico to tell people the lies told people about chemo and radiation and how hope can happen. She wanted to give to others the love and true empathy she sought from groups but could not find, to give resources she struggled to find herself. And so now it is her legacy and as Moms are I took it over and use it to continue her dream, helping me stay near her.  I will pray for your sister and ask that Jesicha meet up with her and sit on cloud discussing the merits of being angels. :) Keep in touch please so I can follow your progress I am very interested in it. jesichashope Thu, 18 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Dear jesichashope, I am devastated by your daughter's story. I feel very sorry. It saddens me to say that I have heard similar stories from other people, even in my own family. My big sister died of lung cancer 10 years ago. Her internist misdiagnosed her and put her on pregnazone for polymyalgia. Due to the pregnazone, the tumor grew so fast, my sister was gone in a month of diagnosis. I still haven't resolved it in my own mind. It hurts. We must question everything regarding our own health and the health of our loved ones. It's great when someone who is ill has an advocate in the family. I tried to be that for my sister, but she preferred to put her trust in her doctor, and he failed her. I have also heard very good things about some of the clinics in Mexico. They seem so humane in the treatment of cancer, as well as effective. Thank you for sharing your stories. I am dealing with a recurrence of breast cancer. Have been taking Salvestrols for 2 1/2 months so far. Had blood drawn last week. My markers were up, but HSCPR, the indicator for inflamation is down. My doctor says the HSCRP number is good news. The markers may just be Salvestrols doing their work. Gerry said the markers go up due to metabolites. Too soon to evaluate it anyway. Have to be patient with Mother Nature. Doesn't worry me. Salvestrols may take up to a year to work. I feel intuitively that I'm better. Look and feel fine. That's just a little encouragement for others. I'll keep you all posted on my progress. My doctor has had some good success already with patients on Salvestrols. He's been treating patients with it for just 3 months. One of his sucesses so far is a gentleman with prostate cancer, and also a breast cancer patient who has already had tumor reduction. Be well. Be happy. Joan AJoan Thu, 18 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT aanthony, I believe you are being difficult with yourself. You want absolutes and there are none, I am by far from naive.  I am not so naive to believe a doctor when he or she says, we are going to just add a little more and this should do it, that is is going to be good. I say NO. I also ask the doctors side effects and the white papers for the drug. I am not going to put poison in my body or that of a loved one without knowing, but everyone trusts the doctors and never ask what that poison will do. I am sorry,  experienced this and hear many stories of side effect damage. They are not honest. So you ask about naturally based treatments and want to know more than you would dare ask a doctor.  It is your right but I am sorry, I am not going to turn over records of clients. And in the case I posted, her markers meant something, maybe not for your wife, but every case is different. If you were so interested in this treatment you called about, ask the doctor ask the people that will answer your questions but you refused.  I know your wife wants to live but until you trust enough to ask the right people I am afraid that is it. Alternatives work, traditional work, it depends on the case; alterntives do not harm the body while chemo does; it is the choice of the patient, always has been, always will be. jesichashope Thu, 18 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT jesichashope, Thank for the info, but am not looking all those ‘positive’ snippets This is why I don’t like all those talking’s. What is your point here? You are not telling entire stories, just few remarks about cancer markers. Cancer markers alone means nothing! My wife has very advanced stage cancer and her cancer marker is normal! Last time when I talked to you, seems you can easily believe verynaive statements. We have to look at whole story. I know for sure cancer is very complex disease and opens the door for scams, and always an excuse doesn’t work for everybody. aantony Thu, 18 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT AJoan, Oh so very well said. You have hit every point right on. If we cannot help each other who do we have?  I am a bit upset right now, having just learned the doctors gave us my daughters records, minus the very time period everything went very wrong. The withheld liver enzyme stats from her and she was concerned, they lied said they were not taken. The doctor in Mexico called and talked to them, they had no idea it was not a U.S doctor, nor cared. Her Mexican doctor told me I do not want to know the horrifying things they did, adding another drug to the mix and a bit too much for her weight. As said, she was going to die anyway, we wanted to see how she would react.  What? Needless to say it really hurts to know doctors you think you should trust played God to the end. I wish only to help another, if what I find out, what I experienced helps another so they do not suffer the same way then my reward is peace in my heart.  We do not all run on the money hunger thing. I worked my life, ran my business and if now I can give back, why not. I think people are too caught up thinking everyone is out for the big bucks, and we are not all like the pharmas. Some of us have hearts and souls. I hope you are finding answers and hope for yourself, I will pray your journey is one where there is no cancer. N.-jesicha's mom jesichashope Thu, 18 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Aanthony, It was and is an insult to say things that are not true that hurt others. I am sorry for your wife but you have to be responsible in what you are saying. You are angry because those alternatives you have used were not effective for your wife. And you are right there are many out there with treatments that do not work. You have to look at how long a clinic has been operating and if the doctors there or who run it have a good reputation. I did some research, the Mexican government is very strict and that is why some clinics open and close; they do not keep their approval. Those that are there a long time, keep meeting all standards. The one I went to has been there for a long time, I say what it was like because I have personally experienced it. Clean, well staffed and fully equiped. We even got a blood transfusion there; I was impressed that the standards were higher than the states, got the donors name and everything.  I have NO affiliation with this clinic or any other. My interest is only in my experience and others I talked to have gone too finding the same as I did. This is called sharing and it people take the step to find out for themselves, then decide it is their choice. When I get positive remarks I am pleased to have helped. That my friend is my payment. God is good and rewards us always for being a Good Samaritan. You ask for evidence and I cannot give out names, that is not right but I can share with you two emails, with names removed. Also and name of a clinic or institute is removed as I respect Cancer Compass' right to ask us not to give out links or other information such as these names. If you want any of it, just contact me again.  I think this might help you help your wife, we all know here how much you love and care for her. The emails: Normal 0 false false false EN-US X-NONE X-NONE MicrosoftInternetExplorer4  I wanted to give you the exciting news...I had all my blood tests drawn this weekend and yesterday got the results. All were within normal range, which is unchanged but my 15-3 cancer marker went down! In Mexico it was 193.6 and now it is 55! Normal range is 0 to 35!!! I uploaded and sent labs to XXX and texted xxx, emailed the dietician and will try to get on dr xxx ties conference this morning to see the next steps. I also had inflammation in my right breast which they saw at xxx and it was benign. My new case manager told me to get iodoral to reduce that and it is down already this morning and I took the first iodoral last night. :-) I cannot thank you enough for being such a blessing in my life! Warmly, xxxxxx   Well my latest cancer marker is down to 39! Zero to 35 is normal range. I'm shocked again that it dropped from 55 to 39 in two weeks! Not sure what the next steps will be; but sure I'll be hearing from xxxxx institute with some direction.   Warmly, xxxxx jesichashope Thu, 18 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 18, 2013 3:42 PM aantony wrote: Dear AJoan, I am tring to help to avoid the mistakes we have done with alternative therapies, please read all my messages.   I have been looking/reading/researching for six years and couldn't find anything for real, a lot of Speculation, anecdotal cases and liebut nothing real, everything comes to the money.   I din't feel comfortable in the traditional camp, but they don't lie and know that to expect.   It's easy to sell anything to cancerpatient. I am asking to share only thery personalExperienceDear aantony There are no guarantees in traditional medicine or alternative treatments. Cancer is illusive, but it doesn't have to be deadly. Many people have survived cancer using traditional therapies. And many have survived cancer using natural therapies. One size does not fit all. Many of the natural therapies do not come supported by  clinical trials. Those trials don't prove much anyway because we are all different. Also, there are too many variables to offer conclusive proof. Also drugs have been approved by the FDA that have only a 50% success rate. What about the downside? Is that what you consider real? There are no clinical trials for substances that come directly from nature and cannot be patented. However, there is plenty of anecdotal evidence of people who use natural methods to rid themselves of cancer. Some of these people might be lying, but ask yourself what is their motive? There are many reasons why cancer has been on the rise. Look at our world as it was in 1900 and how it is now. What's different? Why do we have more cancer now? What can we do to change that? People share their stories all the time. Not every one of them is capitalizing on their success defeating cancer. Some just tell their stories to help other folks who are facing the same disease, the same crisis. The profit motive is not always present. There is no organization more profit motivated than the parmaceuticals. Brave scientists have risked their lives to save people like you and me. Many have lost their lives. They've been eliminated. Why? Because they are in the way of a profitable disease. And by the way, the traditional practitioners lie all the time. No human being is exempt from fault if they choose to be deceitful.When it comes to human nature, there are all shades of honest and dishonest. A thereapy works or it doesn't. You have to read a lot and try to understand the science, then be led by your intuition. Don't accept any death proclammation. It's just your doctor playing God. If you have been reading and researching for 6 years and haven't found anything that you are willing to at least try, then listen to other people who are on the same quest. Find out what they do. Ask who has had success. I will share my experience with you. At the moment, I'm in the throes of it. I just know one thing for sure. Chemo and radiation are not the answers. Regards, J AJoan Thu, 18 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Dear Jesichashope, I am sorry if you feel an insult, I just think you have some kind of interest from Mexico clinics. I have spoken over 10 clinics and didn't see andevidence. If you have at least one evidence please share that information so we can verify   aantony Thu, 18 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Dear AJoan, I am tring to help to avoid the mistakes we have done with alternative therapies, please read all my messages.   I have been looking/reading/researching for six years and couldn't find anything for real, a lot of Speculation, anecdotal cases and liebut nothing real, everything comes to the money.   I din't feel comfortable in the traditional camp, but they don't lie and know that to expect.   It's easy to sell anything to cancerpatient. I am asking to share only thery personalExperience aantony Thu, 18 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT I wonder has anyone tried dandelion root? Gerry recommended me to take this as it really does seem to do the stuff. (Please look on internet)  I couldnot take it as I peed constantly and became very dehydrated. I would if I could though. The other thing he recommended me take was chlorquine - you take a minimum dose every week. Info on internet. There is something called New Generation IPT in china - seems very effective. Trouble is getting there! Best wishes to all the heroes out there. jennette   jennette Thu, 18 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 16, 2013 7:09 PM peter1 wrote: On Apr 16, 2013 12:00 PM LogansDad wrote: Firstly, apologies if this topic has already been discussed.  If so, could someone please direct me appropriately. Has anyone any experience of using Salvesterol with dogs? Our almost 12 yrs dog, Logan, was diagnosed with bladder cancer a year ago. He has done the rounds of iv chemos and although they have undoubtedly kept the tumours quite stable during that time and given him a good quality of life, we believe the effects of the drugs are now taking their toll on him. I did try to e-mail Gerry Potter, but not sure if he's still 'active' re this forum. Any feedback very gratefully received. Thank you Garry SheenHi Gary Just read your request re whether Salvestrols are suitable for dogs.   I believe that here in South Africa I was one of the first to be a big supporter of Salvestrols for dogs and have since been involved with a couple of cases. My beloved Chart was diagnosed on 1 June 2012 with Haemangiosarcoma.......a real death sentence. It is a canine tumour which is fast spreading and does not respond to chemo. Hnce Chart was given 3 months to live by my vet. He had his spleen removed with the tumour, and there was no sign of spread. However because he had bleed, the microscopic cancer cells were throughout his body. I started him on 2 Salvestrols daily (he weighed 36 kgs). I did include other cancer supporting supplements, but can say that although i had really hoped to cure him, it gave him 8 extra months with me. A devasting loss at the end of January 2013, but I know that we did all we could for him. I am sure that the Salvestrols did help, but of course no definite proof. I wish you much luck. A good dose is important, as well as the other supportive supplements (curcumin, good salmon oil, good multivitamin, vit. C, etc). Please keep us posted.   Kind regards PeterI really appreciate that, Peter. I'm so sorry to hear about Chart, but so pleased he was at least able to receive Salvestrol, which hopefully did make a big difference to him, given he lived well beyond the vet's expectations. Logan started Salvestrol Platinum 2000 point, yesterday. I read the suggested dosage for 1000 point and just halved that. To start with, he's having half a cap, twice daily (he's around 55 pounds - underweight).If he tolerates this, I'll up the dose in a few days. He's going through a bit of a rough patch at the moment and I need to tred carefully with doses.  He is on a good multivit and high levels of EPA/DHA from fish and krill oil.  I've also just started AHCC.  As he can be a little sensitive, I always introduce any supps gradually.  I do have curcumin (from Thorne Research veterinary) but have yet to introduce this. I really appreciate your support. Kind regards Garry  (UK) LogansDad Thu, 18 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Dear aantony, Are you skeptical about alternative therapies in general? Do you have a reason for your skepticism? Skepticism is not a bad thing. We are on the threshold of great change in our approach to medical care. People are awakening to a more natural protocol in healing. I think it's intelligent to be wary, so I don't blame you for that. Perhaps you are a person who feels more comfortable in the traditional camp. You have company. There are many people like you. It's OK if you prefer traditional medicine. Then that's the route you should take. I personally try to utilize the best of both worlds. In the case of cancer, I prefer a treatment that works closer to  Nature. I have done a huge amount of research in both allopathic cancer treatments and more natural approaches to ridding the body of cancer and other diseases.  I find traditional approaches to cancer to be very scary and barbaric. And they are hard on the body. I have witnessed the dour effects of chemotherapy and radiation in my own family. My family members survived cancer, but died of the treatment. I am convinced that these family members could be alive today, free of cancer. Now I'm dealing with it myself. Some people elect an integrative form of treatment: both traditional and holistic. Of course you must research all hospitals carefully, whether they are in the US, Canada, Europe, or anywhere else in the world. If you are entrusting your health to someone, know who they are.  It's also important to learn about therapies that are available to us all from over the world. The German doctors and clinics have adopted practices that are quite effective, safe, but are not available to us in the US. That is why many forward thinking American doctors have clinics in Mexico, as well as in California. For the mostpart, the hospitals in Mexico are well equipped, sophisticated,  and the doctors are well educated and from all over the world. And by the way, the Mexican doctors are also very well educated. There are some excellent facilities in Mexico that are treating cancer and people are recovering from the disease. Not only that, but they emerge much healthier all round. I think it behooves all of us to keep an open mind, especially when survival depends on it. Please be respectful of people in this forum who are dealing with cancer. They have a right to know what their options are. J. AJoan Thu, 18 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT I think your remark was very callous of you. I do not remember speaking with you, if you had the same attitude I am sure I would have remembered to forget the conversation.  I am not promoting the clinics in Mexico; but if you are looking for alternative as a couple talked about I said, there are a few out there and a list is out there to find good ones.  And I told you I could not help my daughter, where did you get that?  My daughter died cancer free - but from chemo damage to her liver; you can kill the cancer but you cannot stop the chemo damgae.  And by the way, NO ONE pays me, what an insult. jesichashope Thu, 18 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT I think you can but it will not accept .com so you can use ...(.com) and I think it will take it. cpmty Thu, 18 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Since this is a salvestrol thread, one can go to the salvestrol web site in Canada and find a list of practicioners in Canada. No links allowed here I guess. calin Thu, 18 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Jesichashope, I know you lost yor daughter, I spoke with you, you could not help her, now you are promoting clinics in Mexico, why you are giving people incorrect info, how much do they pay you? aantony Thu, 18 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT cpmtv - I can give you the resources to read up on; what is your first language? The clinics in Mexico are regulated, although many do want you to believe this.  Very clean. The one I went to was so clean and well staffed with MD's and RN's all the time; very impressed with the care and the amount of equipment readily available. Most treatments well known outside the US cannot be gotten in the US so you have to travel, some can be gotten through clinics without traveling it is best to read up on things and then decide.  You can talk to doctors and get some second or third opinions too. jesichashope Thu, 18 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 17, 2013 10:46 PM AJoan wrote: Hi Pat, Oh, it's your dad, not your husband. So sorry for the error. It looks like that link I attached wasn't allowed or something. Wonder why? Just put Cancer Control Society non-toxic cancer therapies, doctors & tests directory into Google, and the PDF will come up. Whatever you choose to do, you should have that directory, even if you use it to ask questions of the top people in alternative cancer therapies. Don't get the idea that they are all snake oil salesmen, just because they are alternative. There are some great doctors on that list, such as Nicholas Gonzales in New York. Oncologists from Columbia Presbyterian Hospital and Sloan Kettering both consult with Dr Gonzales. I'm inhibited about offering opinions right now for fear of it being taken as a recommendation. Just get the list. J.Thanks again, will do. Pat patromano Thu, 18 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thank you so much for your advise and help. I will try google and will find out the info. But I think my problem is I don't know what questions to ask (English is not my first language) and I am not sure I will understand, but of course I can ask questions If I don't understand well, I guess. I also think that I may going to try to find out more about dr. N. Gonzalez in New York City (?). Also I am a bit curious about the clinics in Mexico (a few weeks ago someone sent me information about one of them, I am not sure , without knowing more, I will be brave enought to go there by myself) And  How can I find about that? how can I Google it? but  I think without knowing more about  these clinics?, I also will be affraid to waist my time if they are not the real thing and trully help people. Thanks again. I am soooo happy I am finding out so much in this forum. THANK YOU.   cpmty Thu, 18 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT I remember how hard it was for my daughter and I to find good places to go and what kind of treatments were out there; all the forums would block messages and it took precious time to discover it all.  If we had learned earlier she would not have undergone the last radiation that burnt her mouht so bad, it took a near week at the Mexican clinic to treat the burns. And they did it without drugs, wow. Wish there were forums people could talk freely, I think the information is needed but near impossible to find a spot to not just find it but discuss it.  We will have to work with what we got and hope for the best always.  I am open to talk but not allowed here and it is their forum so we abide by their rules. We help each other best we can. jesichashope Thu, 18 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 17, 2013 10:03 PM cpmty wrote: Thank you so much for this comment. I wish all this information is very good for anyone and everyone new in this process. many of us don't know what to do or what to follow or who is the 'real thing' An if anyone or you have information that the rest of us can use (instead of breaking our heads trying to find information, and discard most of it).  I have a question what is ISSELS and where is the place? and do you have a list of alternative -holistic clinics/hospitals in Mexico? For what I see there are many clinics in US and Mexico but how do you find them? because I checked google and I get nothing. If you know or have a list, can you put it here? I heard about Oasis of hope before. And does anyone knows how many or how good results they have treating cancer?  Hi cpmty, I suggest you print out the directory for non-toxic cancer therapies, doctors & tests from Cancer Control Society. Just Google it. For some reason, the link wasn't allowed in this forum. Sorry. It's a comprehensive list of all the hospitals and clinics that are alternative, integrative, and holistic. You have to research them individually, and question what their protocol is. Ask lots of questions. It's amazing how much you learn by doing that. Hope this helps you. Best wishes for your good health. Joan AJoan Wed, 17 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Your links are very good to know. The use of Salvestrol may bring people some hope where they have not yet found anything. It is unfortunate so many cannot find treatment when faced with a cancer that does not respond to conventional treatments. Prostate cancer is usually very curable but there are some cases that it becomes more active and is harder to treat. I have seen also where Sono Photo Dynamic Therapy is used with near 90 plus percentage rate of remission. It all depends on the case. Thanks for the links. jesichashope Wed, 17 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Pat, Oh, it's your dad, not your husband. So sorry for the error. It looks like that link I attached wasn't allowed or something. Wonder why? Just put Cancer Control Society non-toxic cancer therapies, doctors & tests directory into Google, and the PDF will come up. Whatever you choose to do, you should have that directory, even if you use it to ask questions of the top people in alternative cancer therapies. Don't get the idea that they are all snake oil salesmen, just because they are alternative. There are some great doctors on that list, such as Nicholas Gonzales in New York. Oncologists from Columbia Presbyterian Hospital and Sloan Kettering both consult with Dr Gonzales. I'm inhibited about offering opinions right now for fear of it being taken as a recommendation. Just get the list. J. AJoan Wed, 17 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Upppsss after reading more comments I realize you already were talking about ISSELS Center. sorry, I should have read previous comments. I still will like to know if someone have informations in sound,real, serious places/clinics/hospitals that treat cancer and have alternative-holistic treatments. The more we find out the better since some of them are not what they appear to be. And are not so good places for treatments. Some one there should know. I just waiting for someone or several people who have good results with a treatment (even though someone told me that I should try and have  several treatments  therapies for good results... it 's so confusing. cpmty Wed, 17 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thank you so much for this comment. I wish all this information is very good for anyone and everyone new in this process. many of us don't know what to do or what to follow or who is the 'real thing' An if anyone or you have information that the rest of us can use (instead of breaking our heads trying to find information, and discard most of it).  I have a question what is ISSELS and where is the place? and do you have a list of alternative -holistic clinics/hospitals in Mexico? For what I see there are many clinics in US and Mexico but how do you find them? because I checked google and I get nothing. If you know or have a list, can you put it here? I heard about Oasis of hope before. And does anyone knows how many or how good results they have treating cancer?  cpmty Wed, 17 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 17, 2013 6:58 PM AJoan wrote: Hi Pat, I don't know any doctors in Southern Ontario, however, the clinic I would seriously look at is in Santa Barbara, California. It's called the Issels Center. Do you know about it? They have an excellent reputation, even with Gerry. They are very successful with metastatic cancers, especially prostate. I have considered going there myself, and I live on the east coast, USA. So, it would be quite a trek. Here's a link to their website: http://www.issels.com/#sthash.pvyVipmM.Q2cqzpGU.dpbs "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.issels.com/#sthash.pvyVipmM.Q2cqzpGU.dpbs " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.issels.com/#sthash.pvyVipmM.Q2cqzpGU.dpbs You might also like to check out this list from Cancer Control Society. It's a directory of non-toxic cancer therapies, doctors, and tests. http://www.cancercontrolsociety.com/forms/non-toxic_green.pd f"" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.cancercontrolsociety.com/forms/non-toxic_green.pd target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.cancercontrolsociety.com/forms/non-toxic_green.pd It's where I found my doctor, who practices in New York State. I saw at least one Canadian doctor in that directory. Also, the Clinic of Bio Medicine is in Toronto, ONT. Of course you'll need to call and question them to determine if they are right for you. Issels is sending me some material. If you would like, I'll share it with you. You can also call the number posted in the website of the Canadian resource for salvestrols. I spoke to a gentleman there who was very helpful. His name was Ian Morrison. Hope this info will help your husband. From what I'm told, prostate is one of the more curable cancers. Best to you and your husband. Be well. JoanHi Joan, Thank you so much for your help. I haven't heard of Issels, however, my dad prefers to get treatments on the Canadian side of the border due to financial reasons. He is skeptical about holistic treatments in general so is leary about spending big bucks on something that may or may not work. Thank you for your leads. I will look into the Clinic of Bio Medicine in Toronto.  Pat patromano Wed, 17 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Dear aantony, It's not my intention to make a recommendation. Sorry if it came across that way. I am just sharing research/resources and information. I wouldn't even recommend my own doctor because every case is different, and everyone has to evaluate a therapy or doctor for themselves. It would have been very useful to me in the beginning of my quest, if someone put me in a direction where I could get the information I needed, so that I could evaluate it for myself. As stated in my message to Pat, she would need to call these clinics and ask questions. I'm sure she knows that. I was not recommending Issels. I am merely interested in the work they are doing and think they are worth exploring. Still do. I'm also interested in Gersen. Issels has an association with Oasis of Hope in Mexico, and Oasis of Hope is another interesting possibility to explore. If you have less than an enthusiastic impression of Issels, then it's good for Pat to read that too, because it is valuable feedback. So, thank you. I do hope Pat realizes that the leads I volunteered are just that. They are leads which will help her to unravel the yarn. This is serious business, and it's highly personal. In the beginning of my personal journey, I spoke to just about everyone. No stone unturned. And that includes both patients and doctors. You'll know soon enough who the charlatans are. Just do your due dilligence. Pat, I hope you are reading this. J. AJoan Wed, 17 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT AJoan, I would like to mention to be careful with those alternative places. Please if you don’t have any personal experience then don’t make any recommendations. I have spoken with Issels and they failed to provide any evidence that they have had any success with stage four. aantony Wed, 17 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Pat, I don't know any doctors in Southern Ontario, however, the clinic I would seriously look at is in Santa Barbara, California. It's called the Issels Center. Do you know about it? They have an excellent reputation, even with Gerry. They are very successful with metastatic cancers, especially prostate. I have considered going there myself, and I live on the east coast, USA. So, it would be quite a trek. Here's a link to their website: http://www.issels.com/#sthash.pvyVipmM.Q2cqzpGU.dpbs You might also like to check out this list from Cancer Control Society. It's a directory of non-toxic cancer therapies, doctors, and tests. http://www.cancercontrolsociety.com/forms/non-toxic_green.pd It's where I found my doctor, who practices in New York State. I saw at least one Canadian doctor in that directory. Also, the Clinic of Bio Medicine is in Toronto, ONT. Of course you'll need to call and question them to determine if they are right for you. Issels is sending me some material. If you would like, I'll share it with you. You can also call the number posted in the website of the Canadian resource for salvestrols. I spoke to a gentleman there who was very helpful. His name was Ian Morrison. Hope this info will help your husband. From what I'm told, prostate is one of the more curable cancers. Best to you and your husband. Be well. Joan AJoan Wed, 17 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 17, 2013 2:34 PM AJoan wrote: Hi again Pat, Thank you for the info on your husband. Does he have a holistic, alternative oncologist? That might make the difference for him. It's very hard to self medicate if one is not a scientist, no matter how much research one does. It seems so complex and simple at the same time. Sometimes the traditional doctors press the panic button, when symptoms or indications are something other than what they think. You might already be seeing and alternative doctor. Forgive me if I am being presumptuous. J.Not a problem Joan. He isn't seeing a holistic oncologist. I do not know of any in our neck of the woods- Southern Ontario, Canada. In fact to my knowledge an oncologist whose specializes in prostate cancer is also not available here. He is being monitored by his urologist. His urologist recommends hormone therapy when his PSA reaches 10. His oncologist who did the radiation is further away in Toronto. Unfortunately I'm not aware of any holistic oncologists in Toronto either. patromano Wed, 17 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi again Pat, Thank you for the info on your husband. Does he have a holistic, alternative oncologist? That might make the difference for him. It's very hard to self medicate if one is not a scientist, no matter how much research one does. It seems so complex and simple at the same time. Sometimes the traditional doctors press the panic button, when symptoms or indications are something other than what they think. You might already be seeing and alternative doctor. Forgive me if I am being presumptuous. J. AJoan Wed, 17 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thank you, Calin - much appreciated re dog question. LogansDad Wed, 17 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 16, 2013 11:17 AM AJoan wrote: Dear Pat, As a cancer patient myself, I think that this protocol makes a lot of sense. Is he also taking quercetin? Quercetin arrests cancer. At least, it's another tool in your tool chest. Generally, how is he feeling? My doctor's position is that CEA and PSA are both less than ideal indicators. He relies a lot on how the patient is looking and feeling. He also doesn't approve of Cscans, because of the radiation, but leaves it up to the individual patient to decide for himself. Many of his patients are doing chemo and radiation along side natural therapies. Not I. I prefer natural means to recapture my health. Also working with my mind. The mind is our most powerful tool. Visualization and just being happy work wonders. Cheers, Joan Hi Joan, Generally he is feeling OK but needs a rest mid-afternoon and has been experiencing swollen ankles lately. He is 76 [but looks like he's in his eighties] and not sure if the swollen ankles are related to standing too long or something else. His recent colonoscopy revealed pre-cancerous tissue- he wasn't sure what that was about- and I only found out about this today so I will have to ask his doctor. He hasn't tried quercetin and frankly is becoming annoyed at anymore of my suggestions since the salvestrol let down. Anyway  I will look into quercetin and thank you for your suggestions. Pat patromano Tue, 16 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 16, 2013 12:00 PM LogansDad wrote: Firstly, apologies if this topic has already been discussed.  If so, could someone please direct me appropriately. Has anyone any experience of using Salvesterol with dogs? Our almost 12 yrs dog, Logan, was diagnosed with bladder cancer a year ago. He has done the rounds of iv chemos and although they have undoubtedly kept the tumours quite stable during that time and given him a good quality of life, we believe the effects of the drugs are now taking their toll on him. I did try to e-mail Gerry Potter, but not sure if he's still 'active' re this forum. Any feedback very gratefully received. Thank you Garry SheenHi Gary Just read your request re whether Salvestrols are suitable for dogs.   I believe that here in South Africa I was one of the first to be a big supporter of Salvestrols for dogs and have since been involved with a couple of cases. My beloved Chart was diagnosed on 1 June 2012 with Haemangiosarcoma.......a real death sentence. It is a canine tumour which is fast spreading and does not respond to chemo. Hnce Chart was given 3 months to live by my vet. He had his spleen removed with the tumour, and there was no sign of spread. However because he had bleed, the microscopic cancer cells were throughout his body. I started him on 2 Salvestrols daily (he weighed 36 kgs). I did include other cancer supporting supplements, but can say that although i had really hoped to cure him, it gave him 8 extra months with me. A devasting loss at the end of January 2013, but I know that we did all we could for him. I am sure that the Salvestrols did help, but of course no definite proof. I wish you much luck. A good dose is important, as well as the other supportive supplements (curcumin, good salmon oil, good multivitamin, vit. C, etc). Please keep us posted.   Kind regards Peter peter1 Tue, 16 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hello I would like to know if anyone can share any experience concerning a salvesterol treatment in terms of pleural mesothelioma (asbestos)? Thank you Leana leana15 Tue, 16 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 16, 2013 12:00 PM LogansDad wrote: Firstly, apologies if this topic has already been discussed.  If so, could someone please direct me appropriately. Has anyone any experience of using Salvesterol with dogs? Our almost 12 yrs dog, Logan, was diagnosed with bladder cancer a year ago. He has done the rounds of iv chemos and although they have undoubtedly kept the tumours quite stable during that time and given him a good quality of life, we believe the effects of the drugs are now taking their toll on him. I did try to e-mail Gerry Potter, but not sure if he's still 'active' re this forum. Any feedback very gratefully received. Thank you Garry SheenHi Garry. About Logan your dog question. Check this link. http://www.salvestrol.ca/questionsandanswers.asp Are salvestrols suitable for pets? Salvestrols may not be effective for cats because they do not produce the CYP1B1 enzyme in the same way as humans but the results for dogs may actually be superior. Use one Salvestrol Platinum 1000 capsule for up to two meals per day for every 40 pounds that the dog weighs. For smaller dogs, empty the contents of the capsule proportionally by the pet's weight into each meal. If the dog does not respond after two weeks, gradually increase the dosage up to two capsules per meal for every 40 pounds. calin Tue, 16 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Firstly, apologies if this topic has already been discussed.  If so, could someone please direct me appropriately. Has anyone any experience of using Salvesterol with dogs? Our almost 12 yrs dog, Logan, was diagnosed with bladder cancer a year ago. He has done the rounds of iv chemos and although they have undoubtedly kept the tumours quite stable during that time and given him a good quality of life, we believe the effects of the drugs are now taking their toll on him. I did try to e-mail Gerry Potter, but not sure if he's still 'active' re this forum. Any feedback very gratefully received. Thank you Garry Sheen LogansDad Tue, 16 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Dear Pat, As a cancer patient myself, I think that this protocol makes a lot of sense. Is he also taking quercetin? Quercetin arrests cancer. At least, it's another tool in your tool chest. Generally, how is he feeling? My doctor's position is that CEA and PSA are both less than ideal indicators. He relies a lot on how the patient is looking and feeling. He also doesn't approve of Cscans, because of the radiation, but leaves it up to the individual patient to decide for himself. Many of his patients are doing chemo and radiation along side natural therapies. Not I. I prefer natural means to recapture my health. Also working with my mind. The mind is our most powerful tool. Visualization and just being happy work wonders. Cheers, Joan AJoan Tue, 16 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi WaterlooDon, All I meant was that I'd ask my own doctor about how his patients who have prostate cancer are doing on salvestrols. As a matter of fact, I get IVs (C drips) along side many prostate cancer patients. I'll ask them directly, too. We all take a bunch of other supplements as well: 60 grams of vitamin C IV drips per week, at least 3 grams C per day(capsules), magnesium, iodine, lacto dophilus, selenium, COQ10, Empower multiple, DMG-125, pork enzymes, D3, and other things. Gerry says salvestrols work, even without all the other supplements. Though biotin, magnesium, inositol, and niacinamide help the salvestrols to work, and C is also complimentary. My doctor started taking patients off of laetrile three months ago, to put them on salvestrols. So it might be too early in the game for any stunning results. I do know he has already seen encouraging things happen with many people he's treating. As a matter of fact, he gave a talk last week on salvestrols. I wasn't able to attend, but he made a CD, and I'll share what he said with all of you in this thread after I view the CD. How long have you been on salvestrols? Gerry also referred to the Navarro urine test as a better indicator of cancer in the body than PSA and CEA. I'm thinking I'd like to do that. Gerry did admonish people to be patient with salvestrols. My own position? From all the research I have done, if Gerry Potter, Dan Burke, Brian Schaefer, and other people are telling the truth, I think it works. Gerry said that none of his friends who had cancer, have it now after taking salvestrols, and he himself is not afraid of getting cancer. That's quite a statement. Works on all mammals. He also said that it can take a year in some cases. As I said, I've been on it for 2 1/2 months. Had blood drawn last week. Will get a CEA report on Thursday. It's not going to rattle me, whatever the report says. Does that help? AJoan Tue, 16 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 15, 2013 2:14 PM WaterlooDon wrote: discouraging perhaps just a reminder that an increase in psa could be the result of cellular debris as SP does it`s job destroying ca cells ?????Hi Don, I was expecting an increase in PSA due to cellular debris and as I understand an increase can occur within the first month of salvestrol intake. Therafter the PSA should decrease. However in our case a decrease occurred after the first month. Three months later at 12000 pts daily  the PSA increased. HCG also increased in that time. So this would suggest salvestrols is not helping. We will continue at 6000 pts until our supply is finished and get back with the results when the next PSA test is done in about 3 months.   patromano Mon, 15 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 15, 2013 2:37 PM AJoan wrote: I'll question that rise in PSA for you. Meanwhile, have you read this thread yet? Starts here. http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,50825 ,1.htm"" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,50825 target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,50825 and continues from there. Very interesting. J.Thank you Joan and yes I 've read that thread before and have included the suggested supplements of biotin, magnesium and niacin in his diet. I pretty much followed the recommended protocol.   patromano Mon, 15 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT not sure what you meant by " I`ll question that rise in PSA for You " ? I reread the thread which is indeed very interesting re cellular debris and slow and fast responders. What is your take/position on the use of SP ? WaterlooDon Mon, 15 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT I'll question that rise in PSA for you. Meanwhile, have you read this thread yet? Starts here. http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,50825 and continues from there. Very interesting. J. AJoan Mon, 15 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT discouraging perhaps just a reminder that an increase in psa could be the result of cellular debris as SP does it`s job destroying ca cells ????? WaterlooDon Mon, 15 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 15, 2013 10:26 AM AJoan wrote: Hi patromano, Have you questioned any of the scientists involved with salvestrols? Such as Dan Burke? Don't know if Gerry is available these days. I think he has been inundated with questions in this forum, so maybe he's hiding out. I wouldn't give up on salvestrols without asking more questions. According to Gerry, the markers often go up as a result of dead cancer cells in the blood. Ultimately, they go down. I think the whole process has to be knowledgeably monitored. It's not an exact science. Some of the usual indicators might be misunderstood. I'm meeting with my doctor on Thursday. He's an alternative, integrative oncologist. I'll pick his brain and share with you. I've been on salvestrols for 2 and a half months, so anxious to see if I have made progress too. If my markers go up, it may not indicate that the treatment isn't working. I think it's a long process. Meanwhile, all good wishes and bright light for your dad. Joan Hi Joan, I've talked to Gerry and he sees progress since the PSA is still lower than it had been before salvestrols. The problem is it's going in the wrong direction. I was expecting the PSA to jump after starting salvestrols as an indication of increased dead cancer cells but it did the opposite and dropped for the first time in over 4 years.  I was expecting another drop three months later at 12000 pts/day but instead the PSA rose .   I'll appreciate if you can let us know what your oncologist thinks about this and good luck with your treatments.   patromano Mon, 15 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi patromano, I found this respoinse in the prostate cancer and salvestrol thread in the forum. It's a response from Gerry Potter. Thought it might be helpful to you. Regards, Joan RE: Salvestrol and Prostate Cancer bygerrypotteron Sun Feb 12, 2012 01:20 PM Quote |Reply Dear Ray, thanks for your message. There seems to be 2 types of responders to salvestrol therapy, fast responders and slow responders. The fast responders typically see their tumours shrink to half their size within 1 months are are all clear by 3 months. The slow responders may not show signs of response until after several months and may need a year before real signs of improvements are seen. The PSA levels can be misleading since the PSA is an indirect marker of prostate cancer. Basically it measures the cellular debris from the prostate cancer cells in the bloodstream. However, when undergoing therapy for prostate cancer the PSA will go up before it comes down. This is because the dead tumour cells debris enters the bloodstream as the tumour is dying. So the more prostate tumours dying the more cellular dbris enters the bloodstream so the more the PSA increases. Only after several months will the PSA then start to decline as less tumours are being destroyed. The salvestrols should be effective at a dose of 2 capsules of Salvestrol Platinum (1000 point) capsules, 3 times daily, taken shortly after meals. For optimum absorption it is best to take these just after youve eaten. The dose can be increased to 4 capsules, 3 times daily, for maximum effect. I am pleased to hear your medical oncologist is recommending abiraterone. Have a look at my discussions on the new prostate cancer infolink about the optimum dose of abiraterone by searching on "Abiraterone Dose". Just think you could be the first person to be on Abiraterone and Salvestrols. This would be a very interesting approach since you would be attacking the cancer from 2 different andles both of which are synergistic, so good luck with this, Gerry  AJoan Mon, 15 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi patromano, Have you questioned any of the scientists involved with salvestrols? Such as Dan Burke? Don't know if Gerry is available these days. I think he has been inundated with questions in this forum, so maybe he's hiding out. I wouldn't give up on salvestrols without asking more questions. According to Gerry, the markers often go up as a result of dead cancer cells in the blood. Ultimately, they go down. I think the whole process has to be knowledgeably monitored. It's not an exact science. Some of the usual indicators might be misunderstood. I'm meeting with my doctor on Thursday. He's an alternative, integrative oncologist. I'll pick his brain and share with you. I've been on salvestrols for 2 and a half months, so anxious to see if I have made progress too. If my markers go up, it may not indicate that the treatment isn't working. I think it's a long process. Meanwhile, all good wishes and bright light for your dad. Joan AJoan Mon, 15 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT IN MY opinion, I don't think that cancer (all cancers) are due to a virus, my father died because he was taking saccharine during 25 years and it causes cancer like smoking also causes caner. There are several causes for cancer, as you said, injury and a virus may cause some cancers, but radiation, chemicals in our environment, and some genetics are also guilty of some cancers. I belive my cancer was the cause of radiation... too many mamograms, dental x-rays, MRI's etc...leucemia in- small children cancers (some) are due to eating  too many inapropriate foods, like hot dogs and full of chemicals processed foods. of course thre must be something that tiggers the cancer to 'open' and invade. Some women got brst cancer because an accident or injury in their breast or near by.... well that is my opinion, of course your ca. probably was due to a virus  cpmty Mon, 15 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT I think your dad should try more that one type of therapy, and there are many. some are with good results and some good for some types of cancers than others. youtube have lost of info. just be sure use your common sense since some of them are not really (in my opinion) not to relaible. check some of these sites. I don't know if these will help you or not, but i thought maybe one may give you ideas or help you. I too have cancer and I try different approaches/therapies, just to be sure one works. Good luck with your dad. God blesses you and your dad. www.integrativecanceranswers.com , cancertutor.com , www.cancercleansecamp.com   cpmty Mon, 15 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Calin,  about taking salvestrols while on radiation...... have re-read my reply from Gerry and he says that Salvestrols protect cells  against radiation.... so I guess if one is submitting to the burn it would be counter productive to be protecting the cells from the force wots tryin to zap em.   pradapee Mon, 15 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hello everyone here, Update on my dad. He was taking 12000 pts. daily for the past 4 months without any other treatments. After the first month his PSA dropped from 8.44 to 7.04. His HCG was at 54 IU.  3 months later at 12000 pts/day his PSA rose to 7.53  and his HCG rose to 55 IU.  Not a big increase but at 12000 pts/day very disappointing results. Based on previous case studies we were expecting a continued decline in his PSA. He will continue at 6000 pts./day until his supply is finished , which should take another 3 months. He will be adding a daily dose of Essiac and dandelion root teas to his diet. After 3 months he will take another PSA test and I will get back to you with the results.  When his PSA reaches 10 he will be going on hormone therapy. patromano Sun, 14 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 20, 2013 12:39 PM Inde43 wrote: I read an interesting book a while ago. It is written by Anita Moorjani and is called "dying to be me". Anita had cancer all over her body and the doctors told her that she would die very soon. Anita got into a coma and had a near death experience. In this near death experience she learned about life and the reason why she had developed cancer. It was an overwhelming and deep healing experience for her. After waking up from coma, she recovered very quickly and within a few days all cancer was gone. It is really a very interesting story about the spiritual side of cancer. Her website is http://anitamoorjani.com/ "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://anitamoorjani.com/ " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://anitamoorjani.com/ Thankyou Inde43 for the reference to this book. I ordered it from Fishpond and have just finished it. It is a very uplifting and thought provoking book. It is easy to get completely absorbed in 'getting rid of' cancer with supplements, medication and treatments. Anitas book helps you see things differently and empowers the reader to beleive in their own inner strengths and power in overcoming illness. I highly recommend it. DebCNZ DebCNZ Mon, 08 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thank you Pat. I'm having blood drawn next week. That'll be interesting and somewhat revealing. I'll keep you posted. I look forward to hearing good news all around. Best, Joan AJoan Sat, 06 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thanks J Your info is very helpful. I will check out the reference you supplied.  I look forward to hearing of your success with your salvestrol treatment. Will keep you posted. Cheers  Pat 257 pat257 Fri, 05 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Pat257, I think that prostate and breast cancer share some similarity, in that both seem very responsive to salvestrol therapy. I'm dealing with stage 4 breast cancer, and was advised by Gerry to take 12,000 points of salvestrols per day. I take 3 capsules 4X a day, trying to space them at least 5 hours apart.  12,000 points is the maximum dosage. No one really needs more than that to get results. I've been taking salvestrols for 2 months now, starting with 5,000 points and gradually increasing the dosage. I don't know what stage you are in, but the maximum dosage is not toxic. Frankly, it makes me feel great. On average, people see tumor shrinkage in 3 months. It varies. As far as PSA tests are concerned, I guess they are as good as any tests. Have you ever heard of the Navarro test? http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org/Articles/Determine.html I'm doing the CEA blood markers, which is not totally reliable, however it gives you some indication of how you are doing. Don't like CAT scans because of the radiation. Hope that gives some insight. Be well. J. AJoan Fri, 05 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT I am interested in ascertain dose levels required for taking salvestrol platinum 2000 to assist in reversing prostate cancer. Currently have biopsy results showing a gleeson 3+4. Also for what period of time should dose be taken, and how does one measure whether it is working. Is a PSA reading enough?  Thanks pat257 Tue, 02 Apr 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 27, 2013 2:15 AM pradapee wrote: Hi, I am beginning radiotherapy soon and messaged Gerry Potter about it. He said not to take them on the treatment days as it may render treatment less effective! But it's 25 sessions over five weeks so that's a lot of days without! Am wondering if he thought I said chemo..... Will check with him again..Interesting. Please share what the response is. I wonder why that is. calin Wed, 27 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi, I am beginning radiotherapy soon and messaged Gerry Potter about it. He said not to take them on the treatment days as it may render treatment less effective! But it's 25 sessions over five weeks so that's a lot of days without! Am wondering if he thought I said chemo..... Will check with him again.. pradapee Wed, 27 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 26, 2013 6:49 PM kerdes wrote: Can you use salvestrols while on radiation?Everything I have seen and read indicates it is just fine. Remember, salvestrols are not a drug. They are food based nutritional supplements. References: Non-Toxic Complementary Therapies Whether or not you are doing standard systemic therapy, - chemo, radiation, - you will improve your chances of survival and recovery by taking a multi-pronged approach, and combining one or more gentle therapies with the 5 Rs. Other therapies you may like to explore, once you have made the essential basic changes discussed above, are listed below. Our Top Ten: Gerson Vitamin C therapy Anti-angiogenic therapy Immunotherapy Photodynamic-/Photo-therapy Melatonin Bisphosphonates (for bone cancer) Coley’s toxins Salvestrols Pain management http://www.canceraction.org.gg/therapies-and-recipes/non-tox Beyond Antioxidant Protection Salvestrols act as a natural rescue mechanism, ensuring our cells function correctly. Antioxidants strive to protect our cells from DNA damage but are ineffective once the damage is done. Salvestrols actively eliminate damaged cells, helping us heal before sufficient accumulation can make us sick. In fact the body finds Salvestrols so important they escape what’s called ‘first pass metabolism’, or the first attempts of the liver to remove them from the body. Observing how the body sought to retain these compounds, the scientists who discovered them named them Salvestrols, from the Latin word ‘Salve’ … which means ‘To Save’. http://www.naturopathic-care.com/nutrition/cancer-adjuvant-t calin Tue, 26 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Can you use salvestrols while on radiation? kerdes Tue, 26 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 25, 2013 2:01 PM swift wrote: Calin is probably referring to a hardcopy. It appears that the online html copy I purchased from http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/172318 "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/172318 " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/172318   and the hardcopy are paged differently. I was referring to the online html copy of the book which costs $7.99 USD. It would help in our discussion about Salvestrols if everyone were to obtain a copy of either the ebook, online version or hardcopy.  http://www.salvestrolbook.com "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.salvestrolbook.com " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.salvestrolbook.com   Regards, SwiftAhhh... yes! I have the hard copy. I agree. Anyone taking salvestrols or are considering it should get a copy of the book. calin Mon, 25 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hey all, I have always assumed that my breast cancer was caused by a virus. I had a haematoma that developed during a negative biopsy and a year and a half later, I had cancer on what was now a calcified haematoma or dead tissue. Scientists are now believing that viruses are causing cancer in people who have had trauma of sorts. I need to find the article again. Anyway, I find this article to be very interesting.  It's a must read for all of us. I also found a product derived from coconut that supposedly kills all bacteria and 14 viruses. There are two products on the market and I'll post both links. Here is the article: "viruses and carcinogens alone are not sufficient for the individual to develop cancer. The host must also experience some degree of immune failure in order to get the "big C". So, it is this triad of factors...viruses, carcinogens, and immune failure...that come together to yield the resulting cancer. That is what we call a "syndrome". http://tinyurl.com/dxhuf48 Links for supplements if your interested:http://tinyurl.com/ca2zp4gthisis the original Lauricidin http://tinyurl.com/dyozu8pthissite looks a little cheesey, but the product is good and it has a few more ingredients. Instructions for chronic disease is 3 to 4 scoops divided. bigsky20 Mon, 25 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Let's not forget to LIVE, dear friends. Sometimes it is more healing to have a walk outside and breathe the fresh air than to loose yourself in analyzing everything you eat. I mean, find the balance.... Inde43 Mon, 25 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Calin is probably referring to a hardcopy. It appears that the online html copy I purchased from http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/172318   and the hardcopy are paged differently. I was referring to the online html copy of the book which costs $7.99 USD. It would help in our discussion about Salvestrols if everyone were to obtain a copy of either the ebook, online version or hardcopy.  http://www.salvestrolbook.com   Regards, Swift swift Mon, 25 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT In my copy of "Salvestrols: Nature's Defence Against Cancer: Linking Diet and Cancer" by Dr. Brian Schaefer (2012): it is on Page 87 (not 59) in the book regarding "So what happens when we ingest Salvestrols?...... I found more on calcium d-glucarate: http://www.energeticnutrition.com/vitalzym/calcium-d-glucara calin Mon, 25 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT be careful with the cruciferous if you are taking blood thinners since they are rich in vitam. K cpmty Mon, 25 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thanks swift,I had already ordered the Life Extension Triple Action Cruciferous Vegetable Extract as a better alternative to Estrosense. I had better replace it in my regime posted above. The corn is only a slight worry if it is GMO.http://www.swansonvitamins.com/life-extension-triple-action- Macdon Mon, 25 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT The link from my previous post is fixed here. Suggested cruciferous vegetable extract that should be okay combine with Salvestrols: Life Extension's Triple Action Cruciferous Vegetable Extract  http://tinyurl.com/aphabdy   "Amount Per Serving: Broccoli (Brassica oleracea l.) Super Concentrate Extract (plants and sprouts) [std. to 4% glucosinolates (16 mg)] 400 mgIndole-3-Carbinol (I3C) 80 mgWatercress (Nasturtium officinale) 4:1 Extract (leaf) 50 mgRosemary (Rosmarinus officinalis) Extract (leaves) [std. to 20% diterpenic compounds (10 mg), providing carnosic acid/carnosol] 50 mgCat's Claw (Uncaria tomentosa) Extract (bark) 50 mgApigenin 25 mgCabbage (Brassica oleracea) extract (leaf) 25 mgDIM (Di-indolyl-methane) 14 mg   Other ingredients: vegetable cellulose (capsule), vegetable stearate, silica, maltodextrin.Contains corn.This product contains NO milk, egg, fish, peanuts, crustacean shellfish (lobster, crab, shrimp), soybeans, tree nuts, wheat, yeast, gluten, or rice. Contains NO artificial sweeteners, flavors, colors, or preservatives"   To reiterate: You'll note that this supplement contains small amounts of corn, probably GMO, as an excipient. Be advised, in case you wish to avoid any GMO or if you are allergic to corn. If you have a cruciferous vegetable extract supplement with better ingredients, please suggest it here. As with any additional supplements to take with Salvestrols, you may wish to consult the experts or do your own due diligence. Regards, Swift swift Mon, 25 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Maybe a silly question, but is D- glucarate the same as vitamin D3? Inde43 Mon, 25 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi, To quote Macdon: "Then it would be wrong to combine this product below which contains D-Glucarate with salvestrols?Would it be wrong to combine cruciferous vegetable extracts with salvestrols?Looking at the internet it would seem that calciumn D-Glucarate is contained in a number of popular fruits and vegetables.The product is Estrosense – It contains D-Glucarate, Indole-3-Carbinol, Sulforaphane, Sunphenon Green Tea, Turmeric, Milk Thistle, Di-Indolylmethane (DIM), Rosemary, LYC-O-MATO Lycopene" Of all the ingedients listed in Estrosense, only D-Glucarate is a concern when taking with Salvestrols. Hence, you may wish to consider taking a crucifereous vegetable extract that does not contain D-Glucarate: http://tinyurl.com/ajfg2j6 You'll note that this supplement contains small amounts of corn, probably GMO, as an excipient. Be advised, in case you wish to avoid any GMO or if you are allergic to corn. In my opinion, it would not be best to take high doses of D-Glucarate with Salvestrols but at low dosage it would be okay. How high is too high? I don't know, please consult the experts. Such is also the concern with taking high doses of Resveratrol (50 mg) with Salvestrols. Regards, Swift. swift Mon, 25 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 24, 2013 4:56 PM swift wrote: Hi everyone, This post serves as a caution to anyone who takes Salvestrols in combination with Calcium D-Glucarate: "Calcium D-Glucarate inhibits B-glucuronidase thereby enhancing glucuronidation, in which foreign organic compounds, fat-soluble toxins and excess steroid hormones such as estrogen are detoxified and excreted from our bodies.' Glucuronidation helps to transport the Salvestrols to the cancer cells. However, the inhibition of an enzyme called B-glucuronidase prevents the Salvestrols from completing a proceeding step. Hence in this step, Calcium D-Glucarate may indirectly reduce the efficacy of Salvestrols. For greater detail of the steps involved, please read the following excerpt on page 59 from the book "Salvestrols: Nature's Defence Against Cancer: Linking Diet and Cancer" by Dr. Brian Schaefer (2012): "So what happens when we ingest Salvestrols? In our food Salvestrols come in two forms: as a glycoside and as an aglycone – in food about 80% as glycosides and 20% aglycones – in capsules 100% aglycones. When we ingest the glycoside the plant sugar is cleaved off and replaced with a human sugar. When we ingest the aglycone a human sugar is attached. This of course assumes that everything is working properly to perform this function. The new glycoside is then transported and upon reaching cancer cells the human sugar is cleaved off leaving the aglycone at the cancer site. This step is performed by Beta Glucoronidase. The aglycone then binds with CYP1B1 and is metabolized. The metabolite induces apoptosis spilling the contents of the cancer cell, including CYP1B1 peptides and metabolites into the surrounding space." Be advised to consult Gerry Potter or Dan Burke before you decide to take Calcium D-Glucarate with Salvestrols as this combination mayinterfere with Salvestrol's efficacy.Regards, SwiftHi swift,Then it would be wrong to combine this product below which contains D-Glucarate with salvestrols?Would it be wrong to combine cruciferous vegetable extracts with salvestrols?Looking at the internet it would seem that calciumn D-Glucarate is contained in a number of popular fruits and vegetables.The product is Estrosense – It contains D-Glucarate, Indole-3-Carbinol, Sulforaphane, Sunphenon Green Tea, Turmeric, Milk Thistle, Di-Indolylmethane (DIM), Rosemary, LYC-O-MATO Lycopene Macdon Sun, 24 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Allow me to reiterate. Based on the steps involved, Salvestrols may be rendered ineffective by the following ways: 1. When there is no CYP1B1 protein in cancer cells, or 2. When there is CYP1B1 protein in cancer cells but there is a malfunction in the glucuronidation process in the body, or 3. When there is CYP1B1 protein in cancer cells but no β-glucuronidase. Regards, Swift swift Sun, 24 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi everyone, This post serves as a caution to anyone who takes Salvestrols in combination with Calcium D-Glucarate: "Calcium D-Glucarate inhibits B-glucuronidase thereby enhancing glucuronidation, in which foreign organic compounds, fat-soluble toxins and excess steroid hormones such as estrogen are detoxified and excreted from our bodies.' Glucuronidation helps to transport the Salvestrols to the cancer cells. However, the inhibition of an enzyme called B-glucuronidase prevents the Salvestrols from completing a proceeding step. Hence in this step, Calcium D-Glucarate may indirectly reduce the efficacy of Salvestrols. For greater detail of the steps involved, please read the following excerpt on page 59 from the book "Salvestrols: Nature's Defence Against Cancer: Linking Diet and Cancer" by Dr. Brian Schaefer (2012): "So what happens when we ingest Salvestrols? In our food Salvestrols come in two forms: as a glycoside and as an aglycone – in food about 80% as glycosides and 20% aglycones – in capsules 100% aglycones. When we ingest the glycoside the plant sugar is cleaved off and replaced with a human sugar. When we ingest the aglycone a human sugar is attached. This of course assumes that everything is working properly to perform this function. The new glycoside is then transported and upon reaching cancer cells the human sugar is cleaved off leaving the aglycone at the cancer site. This step is performed by Beta Glucoronidase. The aglycone then binds with CYP1B1 and is metabolized. The metabolite induces apoptosis spilling the contents of the cancer cell, including CYP1B1 peptides and metabolites into the surrounding space." Be advised to consult Gerry Potter or Dan Burke before you decide to take Calcium D-Glucarate with Salvestrols as this combination mayinterfere with Salvestrol's efficacy.Regards, Swift swift Sun, 24 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thank you all, for the excellent information and references. I copied it for myself and also for my doctor, who is very interested in patient feedback.  I need to read all of it carefully, and absorb it. Read somewhere in one of Gerry Potters comments that he recommends Reiki for cancer patients. Don't know where I read it, but it's in there somewhere. Also, I've been learning from Donna Eden about clearing the auric field: cleansing auras, chakras, meridians, and energy fields. http://innersource.net/em/about/donna-eden.html Eden is one of the best at what she does. On her site, you can find certified practitioners in the country or region where you live. We're more than just the physical bodies that we can see with bare eyes. Some of us can actually see auras, however. If you can't see your aura, you'll be able to feel it. Much healing takes place in your aura. Your physical body follows suit. Also, you want to clear your lymphatic system regularly. If you've had surgery and radiation, I can almost guarantee that your lyphatic system is sludgy where you had the radiation. So you'll need to help yourself to get rid of toxins. This is a wonderful thread. Thanks. Joan AJoan Sun, 24 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT I appreciate the detail and references. I see in Dr. Schaefer's book dated 2012, he indicates that differences in the expression level may be due to differences in the laboratory methods for detecting and measuring CYP1B1 levels. calin Sun, 24 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi all, Researchers have shown that CYP1B1 was not detected in all cancer samples and yet all cancer types have CYP1B1 expression. This statement may seem contradictory so I shall provide an explanation here along with links and quotes from resources. By reading this, I hope that it helps you to obtain clarity on this issue. To quote Calin: "Could you be so kind as to provide a link or resource paper that indicates the 96% factor said By Prof. Burke, please? I am going nuts trying to find that percentage."  Here is an excerpt of a paper by the CYP1B1 expert Professor Dan Burke. The title is "Evidence that CYP1B1 is a Universal Tumour Marker" For the complete article please go to:  http://tinyurl.com/d8zqe2m    Notice the various percentages that are listed in the paper, The CYP1B1 was detected in: 96% of cancers samples from different types, 77% and 82% of breast cancer samples, 92% of ovarian cancer samples,  100% of bladder carcinoma,  75% of prostate carcinoma samples,  79% of prostate cancer samples, and 61% and 84% glial cell cancer samples. Also in the page 47 of the book "Salvestrols: Nature's Defence Against Cancer: Linking Diet and Cancer" by Dr. Brian Schaefer: "CYP1B1 has been found to be present in the malignant cells of 98% of mesothelioma cases studied, and in abundance, much as is seen in ovarian cancers." Furthermore, please refer to this link to a research paper regarding CYP1B1 published in 2006.  http://tinyurl.com/d6k6r4r   On the page labelled 138, "Table 1. CYP1B1 Tissue-Specific Expression in Hormone-Mediated Cancers and Corresponding Normal Tissue", the table shows that not all cancer samples tested had detectable levels of CYP1B1. After reading the article by Dan Burke, here are my observations with quotes from the article. Initially, Dan Burke's research team tested most types of cancer: "A total of 127 different cancer patients were sampled, with between 6 and 12 patients per cancer type, and CYP1B1 was expressed in 96% of the samples and in all the different types of cancer. " This statement did not include all types of cancer, as you may recall this reference to slide 6 in his presentation. Here is the link to the presentation:http://tinyurl.com/bnsn8dt   When all types of cancer were tested in subsequent research, as shown in slide 8 of that presentation by Dan Burke, it was found that all cancer types had CYP1B1.   In the article, it was generally accepted that CYP1B1 is: “a shared-tumour associated antigen expressed in almost all human malignancies tested so far”. Note the emphasis on "almost all", which refers to the percentage of cancer samples, i.e. almost 100% (or 96% according to Dan Burke) of cancer samples tested that had CYP1B1 in their cancers. To summarise:  The terms "96%" of cancer samples have CYP1B1 and "all cancer" types have CYP1B1 can be used together in a non-contradictory manner as they refer to essentially two different aspects: cancer samples and cancer types.  That is all I have to comment on this issue. Thank you for your kind attention! :) Regards, Swift. swift Sat, 23 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Dear Swift, I have been hunting all over the place for a link or resouce to your above comment: 1. It is a fact that almost all cancer cells have the overexpression of CYP1B1 protein. Emphasis on "almost", i.e 96%, according to Dan Burke. Could you be so kind as to provide a link or resource paper  that indicates the 96% factor said By Prof. Burke, please? I am going nuts trying to find that percentage. I read the book "Salvestrols: Nature's Defence Against Cancer: Linking Diet and Cancer" by Dr. Brian Schaefer. On page 48, title "Levels of CYP1B1Expression",  there is no percentage listed. Just that there are degrees of expression in different cancers and people and that it is based on the induction pathways of CYP1B1 (processes that lead to the production of CYP1B1). The author states that to insure increased production, take biotin (vitamin H) - the RDA is fine. This recommendation is the same everywhere regarding salvestrols. Has anyone read the book? Great reading and very encouraging! calin Sat, 23 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT I am enjoying this discussion! Good job Swift and all! Most vitamin supplements have those ingredients Swift mentioned. At least mine does! I also rub magnesium chloride oil on my body daily. Transdermal magnesium oil gets 100% absorption and none of the laxitive effects. However I do ingest a magnesium citrate powder in my health drink as well. calin Sat, 23 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Ok, I remember why I stopped taking calcium d glucarate. I read that it might interfere with tamoxifen. Is that true? bigsky20 Sat, 23 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Swift, This sentence that you wrote intrigued me: "When there is CYP1B1 protein in cancer cells but there is a malfunction in the glucuronidation process in the body." I found this: Glucuronidation plays many roles in the body, not just that of binding estrogen, thus one may have low or normal levels of glucaronic acid along with low, normal or high levels of estrogen. The healthy body employs many different detoxification pathways, in the liver and elsewhere, of which glucuronidation is one. Glucuronidation removes several toxic and potentially toxic chemicals from our system, such as polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, steroid hormones, some nitrosamines, heterocyclic amines, some fungal toxins, and aromatic amines. It also removes "used" hormones, such as estrogen and T4, that are produced naturally by the body. This, glucuronidation represents a major means of converting most drugs, steroids, and many toxic and endogenous substances to metabolites that can then be excreted into the urine or bile. The liver, spleen, and gut may be damaged or otherwise impaired by several means: Liver disease or disorder, such as hepatitis Drugs or toxic exposure disrupts phase 1 or phase 2 function Accidental ingestion of toxic substances (such as plants, poisons, drug overdose, mercury)Intentional ingestion of substances which overload detox pathways (such as nicotine, acetaminophen, NSAIDs, xenobiotics, therapeutic glycosides, etc. Many of these toxic and otherwise therapeutic substances (xenobiotics, drugs) disrupt the glucuronidation by impairing it, stopping it, or causing the binds to be rupture, separating the bound molecules from its inert transport. The toxins that are thus not removed by normal binding and excretion may settle elsewhere in the body, causing tumors and other signs of toxicity. Glucuronidase is an enzyme that inhibits the glucuronidation process, breaking apart the bound toxins. Calcium D-glucarate(a calcium salt that is found in some plants, such as apples, grapefruit, broccoli and alfalfa) suppresses that enzyme, restoring this particular detoxification pathway. A benefical fungus, Saccharomyces boulardii, helps reduce some of the gut organisms that produce glucuronidase." http://tinyurl.com/bgs7uwb I believe that my body is full of toxins. I was told that my liver isn't in the best shape and I don't even drink alcohol. I have been exposed to a zillion pesticides from a crop plane that flew over my house. I have estrogen positive cancer and the levels are very high so maybe glucuronidation isn't binding estrogen in my body. Anyway, I'm going to make sure that I take calcium d glucarate now. I have a bottle that is just sitting on my counter and I haven't given it much importance. I just love the way this thread is going, I'm learning so much. Thank you everyone!!   bigsky20 Sat, 23 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Swift, I think I love you, lol! Thank you for answering our questions in such great detail! I take trace minerals and the brand that I buy is Optimally Organic Fulvic ionic minerals. It contains over 77 trace minerals and essential amino acids. I also take transdermal magnesium. Here is some info on the Fulvic Acid site: Fulvic Ionic Minerals can both balance and energize cell life and biological properties once it comes into contact with the cell. If the individual cell is restored to its normal chemical balance and electrical potential, we have given the cell life where death and disintegration would normally occur. This is due to the ability of Humic Acid to break down the salt acids that build up on the cell membrane, and the ability of Fulvic Acid to transport nutrients into the cell and flush toxins out of the cell. Fulvic and Humic Acids will break the bonds of inorganic matter and transform them into organic matter, including radiation and petroleum, and remove them from the body. http://www.optimallyorganic.net/products/fulvic-ionic-minera Kami   bigsky20 Fri, 22 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi all, I'd like to thank you all for sharing your findings and especially to Bigsky20 (i.e. Kami), from whom I've learned a lot lately based on the links provided in recent posts.   And to Macdon, who also posted two interesting questions recently that I'd like to answer. To quote Macdon: 1. "I think we should get back on track and find out how to make salvestrols work in 100% of people. That is, can we find supplements to help with the malfunctioning cytochrome P450 enzymes?" 2. "Could enzymes assist salvestrols in being effective for more people, bearing in mind that enzyme therapy is a purported cancer cure in itself?"  Here are my observations:    Note that CYP1B1 is a cytochrome P450 enzyme that is directly involved in the efficacy of Salvestrols. Salvestrols require CYP1B1 to work. It is a fact that high doses of Resveratrol (50 mg), exposure to cigarette smoke and B17 inhibit CYP1B1. There may be other inhibitors or substances that inhibit or deactivate the CYP1B1 enzyme. In case you didn't know, Tamoxifen has been known to inhibit CYP1B1 but I won't discuss this issue here.    From what I've read about Salvestrols, I've found that Salvestrols may be rendered ineffective in at least two ways: 1. When there is no CYP1B1 protein in cancer cells, or 2. When there is CYP1B1 protein in cancer cells but there is a malfunction in the glucuronidation process in the body. Here are my answers and suggestions to Macdon's questions. The following numbers correspond to the two questions asked:  1. It is a fact that almost all cancer cells have the overexpression of CYP1B1 protein. Emphasis on "almost", i.e 96%, according to Dan Burke. Malnutrition may be remedied by taking more of the amounts required for the co-factors of CYP1B1 such as Biotin, Niacin, and a little Iron (note: an overdose of Iron is harmful and Iron supplements may not be required since most of us get enough in our diets) and perhaps also Magnesium, since the later is involved in the metabolism of enzymes in general. Also consider taking trace minerals and B complex supplements that provide a full range of B vitamins and their co-factors. Those with genetic mutations in the CYP1B1 gene may still have this issue unresolved even after taking such supplements. So consider the following ingredients, in case they may be missing or deficient. Trace minerals:  http://tinyurl.com/d9lgm9d  Quote: "Research on trace minerals has demonstrated their importance in human health. Trace minerals are cofactors for most enzymes in the body and are essential for proper hormone and neurotransmitter function. Deficiencies of specific trace minerals can have an adverse impact on cardiovascular health, bone health, fertility, cognitive health, and immunity. Even mild deficiencies in trace minerals can result in poor growth and development. Many dietary trace minerals are found in fruits and vegetables; however, mineral depletion of the soil has rendered much of the produce we buy deficient in these essential nutrients. Because of these circumstances, supplementation may be indicated.  Zinc (as Zinc Picolinate)   15 mg. Selenium (as Selenium Picolinate)   100 mcg. Manganese (as Manganese Picolinate)   2.5 mg. Chromium (as Chromium Chelidamate Arginate)   100 mcg. Molybdenum (as Molybdenum Picolinate)   50 mcg. Boron (as Boron Picolinate)   700 mcg. Vanadium (as Vanadium Picolinate)   50 mcg. B complex supplement:  http://tinyurl.com/bpoukz7   "Supplementing with active B vitamins is extremely important to everyone, especially individuals who may not be able to convert non-active vitamins to their active forms in the liver because of compromised liver function, poorly functioning enzymes, digestive disturbances, or age. Dietary supplements containing these active cofactors have enhanced bioavailability, ensuring the body gets the nutrients it needs. Thiamin (as Thiamin HCl) 110 mg. Riboflavin (as Riboflavin 5'-Phosphate Sodium) 10 mg. Niacin (130 mg as Niacinamide and 10 mg as Niacin) 140 mg. Vitamin B6 (as Pyridoxal 5'-Phosphate) 10 mg. Folate (as L-5-Methyltetrahydrofolate from L-5-Methyltetrahydrofolic Acid, Glucosamine Salt) 400 mcg. Vitamin B12 (as Methylcobalamin) 400 mcg. Biotin 400 mcg. Pantothenic Acid (as Calcium Pantothenate) 110 mg. Choline Citrate 80 mg." Magnesium supplement: http://tinyurl.com/d8m48b5   "Magnesium is one of the body’s most important minerals. It is required as a cofactor in hundreds of enzymatic processes within cells. Magnesium (as magnesium oxide, aspartate, citrate, succinate, TRAACS® magnesium lysyl glycinate chelate) 500 mg"    2. To ensure the glucuronidation process in the body, thereby rendering the Salvestrols effective, consider taking a supplement called Calcium D-glucarate.It is available here:  http://tinyurl.com/bacs5zj   "Calcium (from Calcium D-Glucarate) 24 mgCalcium D-Glucarate 200 mg D-glucarate is found in grapefruit, apples, oranges, broccoli, and Brussels sprouts. D-glucarate supports the body’s cleansing system — a detoxification mechanism called glucuronidation. The human body uses glucuronidation to make a large variety of substances more water-soluble, and, in this way, allow for their subsequent elimination from the body through urine or faeces (via bile from the liver)." To be continued in my next post.. Regards, Swift swift Fri, 22 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 22, 2013 11:16 AM bigsky20 wrote: Sorry about the copy of the extra long quote. It seems as if we quote the same post with links over and over, it gets longer and longer. It slightly annoys me!Wonderful find Kami. Thank you. I'm jumping on it. It can save lives, not just my own. Already put my doctor on it. Kami, you need to get a job with Gerry. AJoan Fri, 22 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Sorry about the copy of the extra long quote. It seems as if we quote the same post with links over and over, it gets longer and longer. It slightly annoys me! bigsky20 Fri, 22 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 22, 2013 10:16 AM AJoan wrote: On Mar 22, 2013 2:48 AM bigsky20 wrote: Macdon, this is pretty interesting.  "CANCER METASTASIS What to fear most if faced by a cancer diagnosis is the spread of the cancer to other parts of the body. This process called metastasis accounts for over 90% of cancer patient deaths and therefore is a strong focus for cancer researchers. Researchers at BRIC, University of Copenhagen have shown that the enzyme Lysyl Oxidase (LOX) can create a “scarred” microenvironment that enhances cancer spreading. By blocking activity of the LOX enzyme, the researchers succeeded in significantly decreasing metastasis in a model of breast cancer." 'When we inhibit the activity of LOX in our cancer models, we show a dramatic reduction in metastasis. This suggests that therapeutic targeting of LOX can keep the tumour microenvironment “healthy” and thereby decrease metastasis, says Associate Professor Janine Erler from BRIC, who has headed the research. 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target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17569213 "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17569213 " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17569213 "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17569213 "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17569213 " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17569213 " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17569213 "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17569213 " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17569213 Boswella and LOX: "Modern researchers first validated boswellia's medical relevance with the discovery of boswellic acids. One in particular,AKBA (3-acetyl-11-keto-betaboswellic acid), was shown to bind directly to the 5-LOX enzyme in our bodies, preventing it from facilitating production of pro-inflammatory leukotrienes.39" A good supplement of Boswella can be found here along with the above article:http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2011/ss2011_Neutralize-a-Leth "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2011/ss2011_Neutralize-a-Leth target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2011/ss2011_Neutralize-a-Leth "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2011/ss2011_Neutralize-a-Leth "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2011/ss2011_Neutralize-a-Leth target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2011/ss2011_Neutralize-a-Leth target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2011/ss2011_Neutralize-a-Leth "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2011/ss2011_Neutralize-a-Leth 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I know that mostly everyone is taking curcumin, but I'm not sure if everyone knows about Boswella. I sure didn't.  That's amazing. I see that Life Extension sells the Boswellia extract. You can call a number there to ask questions: 1 800 864 3027. It sounds like it should be compatible with salvestrols. Don't dare ask Gerry any more questions, he's inundated. Thank you for posting this. You're welcom Joan! As I read further into the night, I saw that boswella works on 5-Lox. It's the same family of Lox, but I don't know if it works on the whole group. Here is an explanation: 5-lipoxygenase (5-LOX) is a member of the lipoxy-genase family of enzymes. It transforms fatty acids into leukotrienes. Excess levels of the enzyme5-LOXsets in motion inflammatory responses that have been linked to common degenerative effects in aging individuals.9-13 5-LOXbreaks downarachidonic acidto pro-inflam­matory compounds like leukotrieneB4,14a molecule that mediates attacks to joints, arterial walls, and other tissues.5-LOXitself facilitates undesirable cell division changes.15,16 The good news is that an extract of the Indian plant Boswellia serrata has been shown to neutralize 5-LOX. Used for centuries to help with inflammatory issues,boswellia acts as a natural5-LOX inhibitor, intervening at the cellular level to block its unwanted effects. Confirmatory data reveal that a compound contained inboswellia calledAKBA(3-O-acetyl-11-keto-ß-boswellic acid)17,18 is the key to its beneficial action. The problem is thatboswelliais poorly absorbed into the blood.19For this reason, a patent-pending, standardized form ofboswelliacalledAprèsFlex™ is being introduced. AprèsFlex™ absorbs into the blood52%more than previously availableboswelliaextracts.19 Each100mg vegetarian capsule of5-LOX Inhibitor with AprèsFlex™ is standardized to provide 20% of activeAKBAfromboswellia. Most people need only one capsule a day.   Now, if you go to the site I listed below. Scroll down to the very bottom and you'll find LOX inhibitors. One's that you won't even recognize other than curcumin and baicalaine (Boswella). If boswella blocks both the 5-Lox and Lox enzyme, we've struck gold because Life Extensions bioavailable Boswella (Apresflex) is a whopping $22.00's. :) Here is the site and scroll down to the bottom so that you can see a list of Lox inhibitors:http://www.emdmillipore.com/life-science-research/lipoxygena  " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.emdmillipore.com/life-science-research/lipoxygena http://www.emdmillipore.com/life-science-research/lipoxygena   bigsky20 Fri, 22 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 22, 2013 2:48 AM bigsky20 wrote: Macdon, this is pretty interesting.  "CANCER METASTASIS What to fear most if faced by a cancer diagnosis is the spread of the cancer to other parts of the body. This process called metastasis accounts for over 90% of cancer patient deaths and therefore is a strong focus for cancer researchers. Researchers at BRIC, University of Copenhagen have shown that the enzyme Lysyl Oxidase (LOX) can create a “scarred” microenvironment that enhances cancer spreading. By blocking activity of the LOX enzyme, the researchers succeeded in significantly decreasing metastasis in a model of breast cancer." 'When we inhibit the activity of LOX in our cancer models, we show a dramatic reduction in metastasis. This suggests that therapeutic targeting of LOX can keep the tumour microenvironment “healthy” and thereby decrease metastasis, says Associate Professor Janine Erler from BRIC, who has headed the research. The article can be found herehttp://news.ku.dk/all_news/2013/2013.1/tissue_scarring_a nd_metastasis"" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">herehttp://news.ku.dk/all_news/2013/2013.1/tissue_scarring_a target="_blank" rel="nofollow">herehttp://news.ku.dk/all_news/2013/2013.1/tissue_scarring_a The use of curcumin: "existing evidence indicates that curcumin regulates LOX and COX-2 predominately at the transcriptional level and, to a certain extent, the posttranslational level."http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17569213 "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17569213 " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17569213 Boswella and LOX: "Modern researchers first validated boswellia's medical relevance with the discovery of boswellic acids. One in particular,AKBA (3-acetyl-11-keto-betaboswellic acid), was shown to bind directly to the 5-LOX enzyme in our bodies, preventing it from facilitating production of pro-inflammatory leukotrienes.39" A good supplement of Boswella can be found here along with the above article:http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2011/ss2011_Neutralize-a-Leth al-Enzyme_01.htm"" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2011/ss2011_Neutralize-a-Leth target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2011/ss2011_Neutralize-a-Leth Maybe these supplements can help with Salvestrols too. I know that mostly everyone is taking curcumin, but I'm not sure if everyone knows about Boswella. I sure didn't.  That's amazing. I see that Life Extension sells the Boswellia extract. You can call a number there to ask questions: 1 800 864 3027. It sounds like it should be compatible with salvestrols. Don't dare ask Gerry any more questions, he's inundated. Thank you for posting this. AJoan Fri, 22 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 08, 2013 7:53 PM mastergreener wrote: How much are you paying now and where are you located?$171AU for 90 capsules. Located NSW Australia. kimcooney Fri, 22 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Macdon, this is pretty interesting.  "CANCER METASTASIS What to fear most if faced by a cancer diagnosis is the spread of the cancer to other parts of the body. This process called metastasis accounts for over 90% of cancer patient deaths and therefore is a strong focus for cancer researchers. Researchers at BRIC, University of Copenhagen have shown that the enzyme Lysyl Oxidase (LOX) can create a “scarred” microenvironment that enhances cancer spreading. By blocking activity of the LOX enzyme, the researchers succeeded in significantly decreasing metastasis in a model of breast cancer." 'When we inhibit the activity of LOX in our cancer models, we show a dramatic reduction in metastasis. This suggests that therapeutic targeting of LOX can keep the tumour microenvironment “healthy” and thereby decrease metastasis, says Associate Professor Janine Erler from BRIC, who has headed the research. The article can be found herehttp://news.ku.dk/all_news/2013/2013.1/tissue_scarring_a The use of curcumin: "existing evidence indicates that curcumin regulates LOX and COX-2 predominately at the transcriptional level and, to a certain extent, the posttranslational level."http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17569213 Boswella and LOX: "Modern researchers first validated boswellia's medical relevance with the discovery of boswellic acids. One in particular,AKBA (3-acetyl-11-keto-betaboswellic acid), was shown to bind directly to the 5-LOX enzyme in our bodies, preventing it from facilitating production of pro-inflammatory leukotrienes.39" A good supplement of Boswella can be found here along with the above article:http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2011/ss2011_Neutralize-a-Leth Maybe these supplements can help with Salvestrols too. I know that mostly everyone is taking curcumin, but I'm not sure if everyone knows about Boswella. I sure didn't.   bigsky20 Fri, 22 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT agree we should get back on track re salvestrols.   Ive only been taking them for five weeks so cannot report on their efficiency till I get a scan in September.....   just to  clarify are you suggesting we just eat more raw food for the enzymes?  surely this is the job of the salvesrols ... I take 6000 points platinum per day.  Would be interesting if more people reported on their experiences .....still very few case histories on line but perhaps they are very new to the market.  pradapee Fri, 22 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Macdon, I've been researching that myself and I've been looking at Nattokinase, vitalzym, proteolytic enzymes, buluoke. I'm looking at dissolving fibrin because my tumor is wrapped up in scar tissue. I'm not taking Salvestrols at this time. For those of you that are, I've been looking at Modified Citrus Pectin by Dr. Eliaz. Maybe you all have heard of it already. It also comes from tangerine peels, apple peels etc. It's used for detoxing heavy metals in a safe effective way. He combines his with alginate. I think that it might be another supplement to add to one's protocol with Salvestrol. Here is the link:http://www.econugenics.com/showproduct.aspx?ProductID=70&amp It's cheaper if you purchase it from vitacost.com . bigsky20 Fri, 22 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT I think we should get back on track and find out how to make salvestrols work in 100% of people. That is, can we find supplements to help with the malfunctioning cytochrome P450 enzymes?My first thoughts on this are supplementary enzymes since cytochrome P450 are a group of enzymes.Enzyme therapy is also proposed as a cure for not just cancer, but many other diseases. What follows is an excerpt from The Complete Guide To Alternative Cancer Treatments.Cooking by whatever means, except for very light steaming, completely destroys all enzymes in food even enzyme rich foods. So this is one of the strengths of the Gerson diet – organic fruit and vegetables for salvestrols and raw for the enzymes.Advocates of the enzyme theory believe that if the diet consists almost entirely of enzyme-dead, cooked and processed foods, the body’s own production of digestive enzymes by the pancreas, will become exhausted and depleted by the effort to digest food. Essentially the pancreas has to do all the work that should be done in part by enzymes naturally occurring in uncooked food.Enzymes digest cancer’s cell wall so that other agents can penetrate and kill the rest of the cell. Dr. William Kelley promoted an enzyme therapy and according to his extensive case study records, digested a tumour in four weeks. His work is carried on by Dr. Nicholas Gonzales.Another cancer-fighter, the T-lymphocyte, attacks cancer cells in a similar manner, utilizing enzymes in its ability to dissolve and digest tumour cells.Proteolytic enzymes from the pancreas have the unique ability to break down the muco-protein coating that encases all malignant tumours and protects cancer cells from attack by the body’s immune system.Taking enzymes on an empty stomach is reported to:• Digest proteins• Assimilate fats• Increase energy• Reduce bacteria• Eliminate yeast• Break up and dissolve uric acid crystals• Raise T-Cell activity and production• Stimulate the Immune System• Shatter crystalline deposits• Break up cholesterol deposits• Increase the white blood cell size and activity• Increase the surface area of the red blood cells, to carry more oxygen to all the parts of the bodyThat’s just a little bit as food for thought. Could enzymes assist salvestrols in being effective for more people, bearing in mind that enzyme therapy is a purported cancer cure in itself? Macdon Fri, 22 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT I am Coast to Coast listener too. I have a membership so I can catch up on the shows while I work the next day. There is something about Caldwell that bugs me. calin Thu, 21 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Macdon from another Coast to Coast fan.  That program gets so interesting at times it keeps me awake some nights. For anyone who doubts Big Pharma and Big Medicine have funded shills whose main purpose is to discredit and bring costly, fraudulent lawsuits against alternative medicine practitioners and others in an attempt to bankrupt them and put them out of business here's one example..... read on:  ReStephen Barrett "Amidst the morass of fallacious attacks by mainstream medicine on honest alternative approaches to health, now and then there's a glitter of good news. It's a breath of fresh air to announce that the self-styled Quackbusters, headed by a self-styled psychiatrist who failed his exam and was never accepted into the profession, has fallen to one of its targeted victims." http://www.gaia-health.com/articles251/000277-quackbusters-a http://www.bolenreport.com/feature_articles/Doctor's-Data-v- Evil personified IMHO. Shemay Thu, 21 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Cynical Joan >>I know full well that there are power groups that will stop at nothing to take down the people who stand in their way of profiting through other people's suffering. Is that what we're dealing with here? Don't know.<< I remember reading negative comments about salvestrols on a Quackwatch site somewhere, however people, me included, chipped in to defend them. I like the science behind them and they are reminiscent of the Gerson Diet Therapy – raw organic fruits and vegetables. Quackwatch is run by a retired psychiatrist – a mainstream medicine aficionado, so with all due respect, I think they’re protecting their market share. I listened to Dr Coldwell on Coast To Coast AM where he was on a couple of times and he did make some sense I remember reading negative comments about salvestrols on a quackwatch site somewhere, however people, me included, chipped in to defend them. I like the science behind them and they are reminiscent of the Gerson Diet Therapy – raw organic fruits and vegetables. Quackwatch is run by a retired psychiatrist – a mainstream medicine aficionado, so with all due respect, I think they’re protecting their market share. I listened to Dr Coldwell on Coast To Coast AM where he was on a couple of times and he did make some sense. Macdon Thu, 21 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT I agree with you Joan.. We all need to be cynical and on guard  because there are many unscrupulous people out there who will take advantage of other people's vulnerabilities.   I first began researching alternative protocols when my sister was diagnosed in 1999 and died as a result of the standard of care treatment for non Hodgkin's lymphoma.  Thank goodness by the time I was diagnosed myself five years later I had the advantage of having a reputable Naturopath and Medical/Integrative Doctor to advise me about what was effective for NHL and what was not..   My latest bout of research has been on the effectiveness of cannabinoids for treating cancer and I am in awe of what I have learned. My Doctor here in Canada is able to write prescriptions for medical marijuana and then our Federal Government supplies it,  for a fee of course.   $150.00 for 30 grams. Lots of good information if one does a Google search on PubMed using the words Cannabinoids/Cancer.   Here's just one link from my file which I hope you'll find interesting, http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthpr Best regards Sheila p.s. We owe a lot to the person who started this Salvestrol thread.  Such valuable information here.  I have learned a lot from the many posts and thank everyone for their efforts at sharing. Shemay Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 20, 2013 6:49 PM Shemay wrote: Hi all I personally know nothing about Dr. Coldwell but I have to say I was quite impressed with his website.  Many of the links to follow there are ones I also receive from reputable trustworthy alternative sites. A search for Dr. Coldwell's bio tells me he is Naturopathic doctor and I know from past experience on the cc board that will cause many members to hold him suspect.   As for The Salty Droid site......  so many negative comments and really hateful innuendos makes one wonder if there might be some connection with other shills who are actually working for Big Pharma such as Orac who publishes under "Respectful Insolence." and of course the   Quackbuster's.     http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2012/04/12/quackbusters _skeptics_and_the_web_of_trust.htm"" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2012/04/12/quackbusters target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2012/04/12/quackbusters   Their main purpose is to debunk any treatment other than the standard of care. No reliable information to back up the negatives on these sites.   Just opinions.   We need to be careful I think before we tar someone with another person's brush.   I could be wrong of course but I shall keep an open mind. Dr Leonard Caldwell bio  http://redroom.com/member/dr-leonard-coldwell/bio "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://redroom.com/member/dr-leonard-coldwell/bio " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://redroom.com/member/dr-leonard-coldwell/bio Naturopathic doctors http://desertwellnesscenter.com/faqs/naturopathic-physician/ "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://desertwellnesscenter.com/faqs/naturopathic-physician/ target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://desertwellnesscenter.com/faqs/naturopathic-physician/ Best regardsYou make a good point Shemay. I have no proof regarding Dr. Coldwell's integrity, authenticity, or lack of it. And the Salty Droid is always vulgar, though they tend to nail people. I'm involved in online marketing, and The Salty Droid has exposed marketing scams quite accurately in the past. They saved me from some real marketing disasters. Crude seems to be their style, however, I apologize for the vulgarity of their language. That's uncalled for. If Dr. Coldwell is being unjustly maligned, that is a hideous thing. If he's legitimate, then I will defend him. I don't know what to believe. There is so much fraud online that it is often difficult to tell who's who. As stated in a previous post, I was very impressed with Dr. Coldwell's videos, and am in agreement with everything I heard him say... so impressed, in fact, that I mentioned him in this thread. His website is another story. I know full well that there are power groups that will stop at nothing to take down the people who stand in their way of profiting through other people's suffering. Is that what we're dealing with here? Don't know. But you're right, innocent till proven guilty. Just be on guard. Cynical Joan AJoan Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Kami, Your experience with salvestrols and tamoxifen does sound strange and very disappointing. I think the tumour shrinkage became greater when I started taking salvestrols. I tried taking apricot kernels (B17) before salvestrols but I dont know the dosage - and as with most things, I found it did not agree with me. Please look at the info re dandelion tea though. If I could take it I would. And since you cannot take the salvestrols would you consider B17? Chloroquine seems worth a gander too as it seems to be pretty effective if you use it with other anti-cancer remedies. Apparently it can destroy the cancer stem cells which I think chemo (or tamoxifen) cannot do. I did quite a bit of research on the hemp oil. as you say, you need the carbinoids - and a lot of marihuana buds. Larson Century Ranch, USA, supply the bloodroot salve. Apparently they are knowledgeable and worth talking to. This is the less corrosive form of the salve. I researched New generation PDT also - but you have to go to China for it. It seems very good and very effective. A mainline surgeon in London has been trying to get in this equipment to treat breast cancers but has not been able to access funding for it. I have been tempted to try the bloodroot, but I have 3 tumours. It would seem useful to 'have in the house' though. Homeopathy is used extensively in India and they have a lot of research data on it. I know personally a lady who was waiting for surgery - breast tumour - who was treated by a homeopath, and the tumour had shrunk by a half by the time she had surgery. It's nice and gentle. Have you looked at castor oil packs? There is a lot of info re hypothermia and breast cancer. Caster oil is interesting too. I did the packs for quite a long time, but am just using the caster oil and goldenseal topically now. The other possibilility is to change from tamoxifen to letrozole. I have been alternating the two. Letrozole tended to make me dizzy. I reduced the dosage of both letrozole and tamoxifen - I am 8 and a half stone, and I thought the dosae would generally be for people much bigger than me. Best of luck Kami. jennette Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi all I personally know nothing about Dr. Coldwell but I have to say I was quite impressed with his website.  Many of the links to follow there are ones I also receive from reputable trustworthy alternative sites. A search for Dr. Coldwell's bio tells me he is Naturopathic doctor and I know from past experience on the cc board that will cause many members to hold him suspect.   As for The Salty Droid site......  so many negative comments and really hateful innuendos makes one wonder if there might be some connection with other shills who are actually working for Big Pharma such as Orac who publishes under "Respectful Insolence." and of course the   Quackbuster's.     http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2012/04/12/quackbusters   Their main purpose is to debunk any treatment other than the standard of care. No reliable information to back up the negatives on these sites.   Just opinions.   We need to be careful I think before we tar someone with another person's brush.   I could be wrong of course but I shall keep an open mind. Dr Leonard Caldwell bio  http://redroom.com/member/dr-leonard-coldwell/bio Naturopathic doctors http://desertwellnesscenter.com/faqs/naturopathic-physician/ Best regards Shemay Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 20, 2013 12:39 PM Inde43 wrote: I read an interesting book a while ago. It is written by Anita Moorjani and is called "dying to be me". Anita had cancer all over her body and the doctors told her that she would die very soon. Anita got into a coma and had a near death experience. In this near death experience she learned about life and the reason why she had developed cancer. It was an overwhelming and deep healing experience for her. After waking up from coma, she recovered very quickly and within a few days all cancer was gone. It is really a very interesting story about the spiritual side of cancer. Her website is http://anitamoorjani.com/ "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://anitamoorjani.com/ " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://anitamoorjani.com/ That was fascinating Kami. Thank you for sharing it. My cousin had a near death experience too. She is a very serious person, has a PhD in psychology, she's very scientific, always wanting proof before accepting anything. So, when she described her experience, I sat up and took notice. She was told she has to go back to her body, although she didn't want to return because it was such a beautiful experience.  Nice to know that. Fine, but I'm happy to wait for it until I'm at least 120. How about you? AJoan Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 20, 2013 12:25 PM cpmty wrote: Thank you again Joan. and, wht is MLM and who is Kevin Trudeau?? I never heard of that/him? thanks, I thought it was a little strange his webpage and the last entries were from 2010... humm MLM is multi level marketing. It's a business strategy in which people are paid a commission to sell a product. They are compensated for what they sell, plus a scaled commision on the sales of people they recruit. The strategy provides many levels of compensation. It is also known as pyramid sales. It's very cult-like and I don't like it. Kevin Trudeau is a crafty marketer, radio personality, infomercial host, and convicted felon. He was convicted of larceny and credit card fraud. He's the mastermind behind Leonard Coldwell. Yes, Coldwell's website looks like a circus. AJoan Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Very interesting video and experience. I am a little 'ifi' watching it... I really don't want to think anything about death right now. It get me a little upset and for what I read... people who have cancer should be the most upseting emotionless as possible. Nothing that can produce stress, unhappiness, saddness, etc.. That is what I read from some survivers. They disconected from everything and everyone that producedd toxic or bad emotions. I know the video gives hope and understanding. And to tell you the truth, I know and I believe in the afterlife. I had 'conexions'  or (in dreams) with my father and my mother after they died. ... so I know it is true. Maybe is because I am a very sensitive person... and they wanted me to stop my sadness and sorrow for them.. I don't know. THANK YOU FOR THE LIND, I DID ENJOY IT. cpmty Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 20, 2013 6:56 AM Macdon wrote: On Mar 20, 2013 3:52 AM cpmty wrote: Thank you. I will try tomorrow  morning to find their address and phone number. I hope they explain how to take it and if there are side effects. Do you know if they have other products? I guess and hope they are serious and professional .., Thanks again, you are nice to give me the info. Go to youtube and watch Run From the Cure and it will explain how to make it. You need the whole plant and a solvent like ethanol. You boil the plant in the ethanol, a slightly dangerous process, and finally add some water. It boils off and you get a dark green jelly like substance. I believe it must contain THC in order to be effective.According to Rick Simpson, pioneer of hemp oil as a cancer treatment, THC is necessary. This will make it an illegal treatment in Canada and I'm asuming in all parts of the USA. I know someone who has tried it to treat prostate cancer and experienced a slight drop in their PSA after a month. Unfortunately he had to stop using it because of some side effects he experienced- swollen ankles, drowsiness and feeling " high". But ultimately it was the vomiting which began after a month that ended his  usage.Perhaps it was the toxicity of the solvent ( isopropyl alcohol) that eventually caught up to him, or perhaps an error in production. This is one case I know of but you can read others where no serious side effects were obtained. Rick Simpson says to be wary of purchasing hemp oil from suppliers. He says it's best to make your own, however,if you are considering this form of treatment  be aware of legal issues as well as safety issues in  obtaining ,manufacturing and ingesting THC hemp oil.   patromano Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT I read an interesting book a while ago. It is written by Anita Moorjani and is called "dying to be me". Anita had cancer all over her body and the doctors told her that she would die very soon. Anita got into a coma and had a near death experience. In this near death experience she learned about life and the reason why she had developed cancer. It was an overwhelming and deep healing experience for her. After waking up from coma, she recovered very quickly and within a few days all cancer was gone. It is really a very interesting story about the spiritual side of cancer. Her website is http://anitamoorjani.com/ Inde43 Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thank you again Joan. and, wht is MLM and who is Kevin Trudeau?? I never heard of that/him? thanks, I thought it was a little strange his webpage and the last entries were from 2010... humm  cpmty Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 20, 2013 1:10 AM cpmty wrote: Thanks I did register for the newsletter. the website itis a little confusing. I will like to read more before I contact him. Thank you so much. Hi cpmty, I think we had better avoid Dr. Coldwell. The Salty Droid exposes fraud. Their language is a bit salty, but they're usually right on about scams. I don't like Coldwell's website either. And I didn't know about the MLM or connection to Kevin Trudeau. Very disappointing, but better to know. I shouldn't have mentioned him till I finished researching him. http://saltydroid.info/darker-than-the-darkside/ AJoan Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 19, 2013 11:53 PM AJoan wrote: @cpmty To all: Remember I was not sure of Dr. Coldwell. Just thought he had interesting videos. Found this piece on The Salty Droid. I think you should read it. http://saltydroid.info/darker-than-the-darkside/ The Salty Droid pans Coldwell. Says he's not who he claims to be. Is he a fraud? Might be. His vids are very convincing, but we have to be careful. Maybe it's good that I brought him up. AJoan Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 20, 2013 3:52 AM cpmty wrote: Thank you. I will try tomorrow  morning to find their address and phone number. I hope they explain how to take it and if there are side effects. Do you know if they have other products? I guess and hope they are serious and professional .., Thanks again, you are nice to give me the info. Go to youtube and watch Run From the Cure and it will explain how to make it. You need the whole plant and a solvent like ethanol. You boil the plant in the ethanol, a slightly dangerous process, and finally add some water. It boils off and you get a dark green jelly like substance. I believe it must contain THC in order to be effective. Macdon Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thank you. I will try tomorrow  morning to find their address and phone number. I hope they explain how to take it and if there are side effects. Do you know if they have other products? I guess and hope they are serious and professional .., Thanks again, you are nice to give me the info.  cpmty Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Does it works like the oil? I never tried but in youtube they say that the oil is the only thing it works..???? I don't know. Thank you for telling us about cannabidiol and giving the place where to get it. I will google it. Thanks again.  cpmty Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT PS - Cannabidiol from Dixie Botanicals comes from hemp and does not have any THC in it (hence, it's legal) and won't make you high.  Just has the awesome health benefits and reportedly no bad side effects... SarahGrey Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hey all, For those of you interested in hemp oil (cannabidiol) you can get it from Dixie Botanicals (in Denver, CO).  They sell the oil in a tincture (mixed with cinnamon, tastes pretty good) and also in capsules.  100% legal, you can buy it through the internet (just google them to get their site) and just FYI it takes just about a week to get your order once you purchase it. PS - I've also used their pain cream and it truly works wonders (for me and many family members). SarahGrey Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thanks I did register for the newsletter. the website itis a little confusing. I will like to read more before I contact him. Thank you so much.  cpmty Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 19, 2013 10:05 PM cpmty wrote: IF you find anything, please let me know. THC is tetrahydrocannabinol. It's the chemical responsible for most of marijuana's psychotropic effects. It relieves pain, stimulates cells in the brain to release dopamine. Hemp is a variety of the cannabis sativa plant. So hemp is a relative of marijuana. How it is used to cure cancer I don't know yet. Dr. Leonard Coldwell uses it in the treatment of cancer, so he would be able to advise you about where to get it and how to use it. I believe you can contact him by email, and he'll answer you. His website is www.drleonardcoldwell.com . Email is on his site. I just discovered Dr. Coldwell on YouTube. Don't know much about him, but he sure sounds like a phenom. It can't hurt to ask him about hemp in regard to cancer. Write him, and I may write him too. If I learn any more about hemp, I'll share it with you. J. AJoan Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT IF you find anything, please let me know.  cpmty Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi, what is THC? I KNOW what it works is the oil, not the seeds and not the plant. I m too looking where to find the oil. I know a few years ago you could get it from Canada but I don't think you can now. I found the info. in youtube. I ask for info. to get it but no one contacted me. So I don't know where or who is selling it. I also read some states in US are allowed to sell it and grow marihuana. What I don't know is which states and if can be send by mail to other states. ... In youtube someone told me yes I could get it and other person told me no, it was illegal to send it to a state which marijuana is illigal. So I don't know. Since I don't know much, I was affraid that maybe someone wants to sell me something -scam- or keep the money and don't send anything. So I never asked anything else. I wish there was a serious place that I could get it. cpmty Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thank you Jennette. There is much to learn here. I'm looking into all of it. If it causes no harm, if it isn't counter-productive to anything, why not try it? Just watched a video of Dr. Lorraine Day, who cured herself of cancer. Proof that there is more than one way to cure cancer, and most, if not all the ways seem to be natural, kind to the body, disciplined and very gentle. Dr. Day adopted a vegan raw food diet. She stressed the importance of outdoor air as opposed to indoor air to slow cancer growth. She also stressed the importance of sleep patterns. The hours of 10:00 PM to 2:00 AM are important for the function of the hormones that keep you well. Nature seems to be very methodical. That's when those hormones do their work.  Go to sleep at 10:00 PM. She talked about the importance of drinking water, lots of it. She saw a huge difference in her recovery when she started drinking more water. She got rid of all processed foods, caffeine, and sugar. She worked on her attitude. Stopped watching the news. Got rid of anger. Increased her sense of benevolence. Made it a mission to help others. Was grateful to be alive. There is so much more. Check it out. She tells how she cured hersel in her video "You Can't Improve on God". These things are motivational as well as informative. Started to research hemp oil. Do you know where you can purchase it? I know you have to find a high THC count.  It's not the same as cannabis/marijuana is it? Which one kills cancer cells, hemp oil or hemp seeds? I think there is a movie about hemp called the Emperor of Hemp". It's free on YouTube, though I haven't seen it yet. Thanks for sharing info. J. AJoan Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Sorry for the delay re info on chloroquine. Really interesting research on it on internet. You take only 2 x 250mg tabs per week.  What it does sounds interesting, and Gerry said he had been talking to people who were using it in research, with salvestrols, and getting good results. Jennette jennette Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi calin,  I have been to a talk by Gerry and this is what he said - ie that the CYP1B1 enzyme is not working properly in 1 out of 5 people, and wont process the salvestrols correctly. Presumably there will be differences in the other 4 too. I was given an article by Stephen Roschlitz about the P450 cytochrome not working in 1 out of 5 people. He printed it in Nexus magaizine. I was upset about my cancers not going quickly and Gerry recommended that I try dandelion root tea. He said he was doing research on it himself and it really seems to work. Problem for me - drove my kidneys mad and I got v dehydrated. For anyone who can take it, it seems top class. He also recommended chloroquine (I will check the dose - very small). This seems to kill the stem cells. Also recommended Indol-3. Other interesting research - feverfew, paw paw. A lady on the internet was talking about bloodroot cream for breast cancer - she thought it potentially dangerous and recommended using goldenseal instead. I use castor oil and goldenseal topically. I also am going to a very good homeopath. Best wishes - but wish there was more research done, and you could get that damn stuff. Research on hemp oil shows it is very very effective. Research on fish oils ( presumably flax oil also?) shows it stops cancer metabolising. Best wishes to our heroes out there. Jennette  jennette Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT It's so nice to hear what you all are taking and what your doctor's are prescribing. Thank you so much for taking the time to post the supplements that you take! I'm definitely missing a few of them and some I never even heard of! I'll go ahead and post my list as well. Best Wishes, Kami bigsky20 Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 19, 2013 10:35 AM AJoan wrote: @ aantony Thank you aanthony, for sharing the protocol you followed for your mom. What kind of cancer did she have and how did it work? How is she doing? Here's what my alternative doctor has me on: Vitamin C drips (30 grams a week) plus capsules 2-4,000 mg per day, quercetin, D3(7,000 IU), probiotic,magnesium, Iodoral, selenium, MSM, COQ10, DMG-125, Empower(multiple vitamin), pancreatic enzymes, balanced oil (2 tablespoons per day), homocysteine control (B12), salvestrols. I've added turmeric to the mix. I was on B17 for a year. But now, switched over to salvestrols. My diet is rich in all vegetables except the starchy ones, eggs, some fruit, some fish, legumes, few grains, though I allow them, no wheat. My doctor has been promoting the ketogenic diet. Gerry doesn't approve of that diet. I don't follow it because I'm almost a vegetarian and can't handle eating meat. Fish and eggs are okay. I do not worry about fats and oils. Dairy products are at a minimum, and are organic. I'm actually sensitive to the protein in dairy, as many people are.  Fresh air and exercise. Think positively. I trust it's working, though a tweak here and there is always a good idea to fine tune the treatment, to hone in on what works better. Trying to be patient with the process. I feel fine though. Not testing the Salvestrol progress for a couple more months. Gerry suggests I take 12,000 points a day. I've been working up to it. Am doing 8,000 now. Next week will be 12,000. I'm dealing with a recurrence of estrogen receptive breast cancer that has metasticized. Have a lesion on my shoulder and cancer in my sternum. I'm watching those two things very carefully to evaluate progress. The doctor does blood  markers. I'm not trilled with C-scans and PetScans due to the radiation, though Gerry thinks PetScans pose no threat. Thought I'd share my story with you. I've been listening to Dr. Leonard Coldwell on YouTube, and am fascinated by what I'm learning. He has a positive message and impressive credentials. If you are not acquainted with him, he's well worth checking out. He's German, and lectures in Florida. J. Footnote Guys: Add this to the list of supplements: Biotin 5000 Niacinamide Inositol That's all. J AJoan Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT @ aantony Thank you aanthony, for sharing the protocol you followed for your mom. What kind of cancer did she have and how did it work? How is she doing? Here's what my alternative doctor has me on: Vitamin C drips (30 grams a week) plus capsules 2-4,000 mg per day, quercetin, D3(7,000 IU), probiotic,magnesium, Iodoral, selenium, MSM, COQ10, DMG-125, Empower(multiple vitamin), pancreatic enzymes, balanced oil (2 tablespoons per day), homocysteine control (B12), salvestrols. I've added turmeric to the mix. I was on B17 for a year. But now, switched over to salvestrols. My diet is rich in all vegetables except the starchy ones, eggs, some fruit, some fish, legumes, few grains, though I allow them, no wheat. My doctor has been promoting the ketogenic diet. Gerry doesn't approve of that diet. I don't follow it because I'm almost a vegetarian and can't handle eating meat. Fish and eggs are okay. I do not worry about fats and oils. Dairy products are at a minimum, and are organic. I'm actually sensitive to the protein in dairy, as many people are.  Fresh air and exercise. Think positively. I trust it's working, though a tweak here and there is always a good idea to fine tune the treatment, to hone in on what works better. Trying to be patient with the process. I feel fine though. Not testing the Salvestrol progress for a couple more months. Gerry suggests I take 12,000 points a day. I've been working up to it. Am doing 8,000 now. Next week will be 12,000. I'm dealing with a recurrence of estrogen receptive breast cancer that has metasticized. Have a lesion on my shoulder and cancer in my sternum. I'm watching those two things very carefully to evaluate progress. The doctor does blood  markers. I'm not trilled with C-scans and PetScans due to the radiation, though Gerry thinks PetScans pose no threat. Thought I'd share my story with you. I've been listening to Dr. Leonard Coldwell on YouTube, and am fascinated by what I'm learning. He has a positive message and impressive credentials. If you are not acquainted with him, he's well worth checking out. He's German, and lectures in Florida. J. AJoan Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Jan 24, 2013 8:02 PM aantony wrote: HiBundy, This is not about me, this is about all cancerpatients.  If you or your lived one fight cancer and tried any alernative tratmen just please share it, good or bad. This is not about give a try, my wife tried 'highest rating '  LifeOne herbal treatment  by CancesTutor and her cancer got much worse, that was completele lie. We lost a lot of time and money. You can read it under LifeOne section. I think everything on CancerTutur is scam and lie. It's very easy to sell false hope to cancerpatients. To notrepeatthe mistakes we should be a bit smarter. Thanks   aantony,I am not sure that there is a silver bullet such as Lifeone, to all cancers in all cases, especially the more advanced ones. There may be a silver bullet, such as salvestrols, to preventing them though, so I’ll once again post the regime I put my mother on for your consideration. I’ll add some more information to it so that you can see what I am trying to achieve. Not in any particular order, but the first 3 or 5 actually deal with killing the cancer cells, the rest are mainly making the environment unfriendly to cancer as well as propping up general good health.4 platinum salvestrols – to destroy cancerous cells with the CYP1B1 enzyme which is a cancer marker. I think Professor Gerry Potter said 6 platinum is an ideal maximum whilst you have cancer, the you can cut it down to even 1, but I intend to cut it down to 3.1 or 2 graviola pills and/or paw-paw tea and Jason Winter’s tea – will replace this with Paw Paw Cell-Reg and Essiac tea. I think graviola and paw paw can only be used whilst you have cancer and as a later prophylactic but must be discontinued once all is well. Salvestrols can be used for life to prevent cancer as well as general good health.The Budwig Protocol of cottage cheese and flax seed oil – maintenance dose. I think the curative dose is 3/4 cup of cottage cheese with 1/3 cup flax seed oil and the maintenance dose is half that.2 Curcumin 95 + sometimes 2 turmeric pills – to slow down angiogenesis as well as dissolve some tumours.2 beta glucans (Beta-1,3/1,6-D-Glucan from Saccharomyces cerevisiae) – to boost the immune system’s NK (natural killer cells) to recognise cancer and kill it. The yeast one is reportedly better than the mushroom one. One 500mg capsule per 50 pounds (23 kilos) of body weight daily – in the morning, 30 minutes before eating or drinking anything.1 multivitamin – general health and augment salvestrol potency. I’ve put mum on Alive for Women 50+.Vitamin D3 5,000-10,000IU – helps prevent cancer and boosts immunity. An adequate level of this hormone is essential to recover from cancer and keep it from recurring. Vitamin D functions like a hormone to affect the immune system and protect against cancer. Rather than killing cancer cells outright, vitamin D appears to halt cancer by forcing “runaway” cells to differentiate—that is, to become more like normal cells. Note: Dr. Navarro has warned users of his HCG Urine Test to discontinue taking the Vitamin D3 3 days before you take the urine sample. Apparently, the fact that it is a hormone can interfere with that test.Vitamin C, l-Lysine and l-Proline combination (Heart Plus is one brand) – inhibits the metastasis of cancer cells and adding green tea extract improves the effect by about 30%. This is good for the heart and naturally lowers cholesterol too. Six capsules of Heart Plus (2-2-2) and three caplets (1-1-1) of the Green Tea Extract. Green tea – 4 cups a day/green tea extract – prevent some cancers like bowel and slow down angiogenesis.2 Estrosense – to deal with excess oestrogen and augment salvestrol potency. It contains D-Glucarate, Indole-3-Carbinol, Sulforaphane, Sunphenon Green Tea, Turmeric, Milk Thistle, Di-Indolylmethane (DIM), Rosemary, LYC-O-MATO LycopeneUp to 6 green barley pills 3 times a day – keep the system alkaline and to provide it with enzymes.2 or 3 chlorella pills 3 times a day – In addition to strengthening the immune system's response to cancer cells, chlorella acts as a preventative measure against cancer by raising blood levels of the protein albumin. Some studies have documented that a low albumin level is a marker for serious illnesses such as cancer and heart disease. It also cleanses the system of heavy metals.Vitalzym wich contains Bromelain, Papain, Rutin, Amylase, Protease, Lipase, Amla, Serrapeptase – to destroy dead cells in the system as well as destroy the protein coating (fibrin) of cancer cells allowing the immune system to easier kill them. Serrapeptase is the enzyme that excels in this.Modified Citrus Pectin - it’s small molecules enter the bloodstream and act as decoys for lectins (cancer cell surface proteins), which are seeking the sugar galactose in cells. When lectins encounter the pectin, which also contains galactose, they attach to it as they would to a cell. Once bound to the pectin, lectins are unable to attach to other sites in the body and start new cancer colonies. Thousands of research studies have demonstrated citrus pectin's cancer fighting abilities.Organic diet whenever possible with little red meat and mostly chicken and fish. Without organic your body may be contaminated with the pesticides and anti-fungals which may reduce the potency of  salvestrols.Limited dairy and sugar as well as limited high glycemic foods.Something I’m looking into now and related to the above so called Budwig Protocol is adding an organic oil blend of omega-6:omega-3 in a 2:1 ratio. Good fats are essential to keeping cells oxygenated and cancer hates oxygen. I think it shall be 1 part safflower and 1 part sunflower for omega-6 and 1 part flaxseed for omega-3.No anti-cholesterol medication like statins – a grand statement for a non-medical person but IMHO, I think the war against fats, including cholesterol, may be a significant reason, although not the only one, we are seeing more cases of cancer as time goes on. That and the inclusion of sugar in many low fat products, to give them the body that taking the fat out of them has diminished, as well as including sugar in processed foods. The oil blend should deal with cholesterol problems too. Macdon Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 18, 2013 3:42 PM cpmty wrote: Thank you. I thought it was confusing -eating tangerines- trying to stop the tamoxifen working ... why then we are trying to do that? it doens' make sense... or I didn't understand it. Thank you again.I'm sorry Celia, I didn't mean to confuse you. I'm a little dramatic! Kami bigsky20 Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thank you. I thought it was confusing -eating tangerines- trying to stop the tamoxifen working ... why then we are trying to do that? it doens' make sense... or I didn't understand it. Thank you again. cpmty Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thank you so much for understanding Inde! It means alot! If this didn't happen to me and I heard my type of story from someone else, I would not have gotten off of salvestrols. I do believe in them that much! We all just have to wait and get our own tests and go from there. Kami :)     bigsky20 Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT I understand, Kami. It is hard to make choices in this, isn't it? I don't like the side effects of tamoxifen either, but I feel I have no choice. Thanks for sharing your part, Kami. It is good to hear about other experiences, though it can be confusing too. Inde43 Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 18, 2013 8:29 AM Inde43 wrote: Hi Swift, Gerry Potter wrote me that a lot of woman take the combination salvestrols-tamoxifen, with generally good results. He wrote that this combination is getting the best of two worlds. (Regular and complementary) Tamoxifen and salvestrols both go after different enzymes and do not influence eachothers mechanism. I believe Jenette (on this messageboard) saw continued shrinking of the tumours while on tamoxifen and salvestrols. And let's not forget that stabilising of the tumour isn't bad news at all.Hi Inde, In my case stabilizing isn't good. My doctor at MD Anderson Cancer Center said that it was not a GOOD thing! They are trying to get my tumours prongs out of my chest wall so that surgery won't be so bloody and they were worried when tamoxifen was doing such an amazing job at shrinking my tumour and then all of the sudden, it just stabilized. I know that you're having a hard time wrapping it around your brain, but this is happening to me and I'm looking for answers for myself and also sharing info if it happens to anyone else. What you post in defense of tamoxifen and salvestrols is truly needed as well. I personally don't like the side effects of tamoxifen, but I'm going to continue to take it until surgery and then a little while after that. I will then switch to Salvestrols. bigsky20 Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Quote: In Bigsky20's case, taking Salvestrols and Tamoxifen together does not seem to have a synergistic effect. They do not seem to work well together. Perhaps more time is required to assess her situation because she says that she has been advised to continue with this combined protocol. So while it may seem that the interaction between Tamoxifen and the Salvestrol makes both the Tamoxifen and Salvestrol less effective when used together, perhaps other factors such as hormone imbalances and genetics are involved. Also, consider the possibility that it may not be best to take Salvestrols with Tamoxifen for all cases due to individual differences. The paper states that "Further research is necessary to define the role of CYP1B1 in tamoxifen metabolism, especially in breast cancer where the role of tamoxifen metabolism is unclear.". So whatever you decide to do, please proceed with caution. Regards, Swift Thank you so much Swift! My thought process is that Salvestrol will work amazingly for my body if I stop taking tamoxifen. I read somewhere that if the tumour contains high amounts of CYP1B1, salvestrol will work better. I think that we're narrowing in on my issues with the supplement! Best wishes, Kami (bigsky20) bigsky20 Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thank you. I thought it was confusing -eating tangerines- trying to stop the tamoxifen working ... why then we are trying to do that? it doens' make sense... or I didn't understand it. Thank you again. cpmty Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Gerry wrote this about the orange-tangerine peel issue: "Mice studies of human breast cancer can be misleading. I am not sure what their orange peel extract contained so it is hard to comment on this. There are over 300 flavonoids in orange peel, all with different biological properties. Some flavones have anticancer properties such as the salvestrols, whilst others such as the isoflavones are cancer promoting. So you need to be sure you know what you are extracting from orange peel." Inde43 Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Swift, Gerry Potter wrote me that a lot of woman take the combination salvestrols-tamoxifen, with generally good results. He wrote that this combination is getting the best of two worlds. (Regular and complementary) Tamoxifen and salvestrols both go after different enzymes and do not influence eachothers mechanism. I believe Jenette (on this messageboard) saw continued shrinking of the tumours while on tamoxifen and salvestrols. And let's not forget that stabilising of the tumour isn't bad news at all. Inde43 Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 17, 2013 2:33 PM bigsky20 wrote: On Mar 17, 2013 2:04 PM bigsky20 wrote: I just found this information about tamoxifen, estrogen and CYP1b1. It's very interesting and some or most of it is above my head. Here is a portion of it: CYP1B1 may also be involved in the causation of endometrial cancers brought about by tamoxifen therapy (140-142). Tamoxifen is a potent antiestrogen used for the treatment of several estrogen-mediated cancers. CYP1B1 is the primary catalyst of trans-cis isomerization of trans-4-hydroxytamoxifen to 4′-hydroxytamoxifen (a weak estrogen agonist; see Fig. 3 ; ref. 143). The net result of such a conversion is the inactivation of trans-4-hydroxytamoxifen and the formation of a weak promoter of estrogen signaling. Indeed, clinical resistance to tamoxifen therapy has been associated with the increased formation of cis-hydroxytamoxifen (144), and CYP1B1-mediated metabolism may be directly responsible. Cell lines treated with tamoxifen in the absence of estrogen were shown to up-regulate CYP1B1 possibly through the estrogen-responsive element on the CYP1B1 promoter (52). CYP1B1 promoter methylation has also been associated with increases in overall survival after tamoxifen therapy, and this relationship is likely due to decreased CYP1B1 expression resulting in decreased tamoxifen metabolism (41). Thus, CYP1B1 may be involved in the disposition of tumors toward tamoxifen and its expression may be responsible for clinical resistance to tamoxifen therapy within the tumor tissue as well as endometrial toxicity. Further research is necessary to define the role of CYP1B1 in tamoxifen metabolism, especially in breast cancer where the role of tamoxifen metabolism is unclear.      The article is informative on other cancers as well. 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Those with high levels CYP1B1 in their tumour can actually stop tamoxifen from working! Could someone with a more scientific mind explain this to me? My tumour stabilized when taking salvestrols and tamoxifen, where as it was shrinking previously on tamoxifen only.Hi, Here's a pdf link to the report Bigsky20 quoted:   http://mcr.aacrjournals.org/content/4/3/135.full.pdf This excerpt is found on pages labelled 143 and 145: "CYP1B1 may also be involved in the causation of endometrial cancers brought about by tamoxifen therapy (140-142). Tamoxifen is a potent antiestrogen used for the treatment of several estrogen-mediated cancers. CYP1B1 is the primary catalyst of trans-cis isomerization of trans-4-hydroxytamoxifen to 4′-hydroxytamoxifen (a weak estrogen agonist; see Fig. 3 ; ref. 143). The net result of such a conversion is the inactivation of trans-4-hydroxytamoxifen and the formation of a weak promoter of estrogen signaling. Indeed, clinical resistance to tamoxifen therapy has been associated with the increased formation of cis-hydroxytamoxifen (144), and CYP1B1-mediated metabolism may be directly responsible. Cell lines treated with tamoxifen in the absence of estrogen were shown to up-regulate CYP1B1 possibly through the estrogen-responsive element on the CYP1B1 promoter (52). CYP1B1 promoter methylation has also been associated with increases in overall survival after tamoxifen therapy, and this relationship is likely due to decreased CYP1B1 expression resulting in decreased tamoxifen metabolism (41). Thus, CYP1B1 may be involved in the disposition of tumors toward tamoxifen and its expression may be responsible for clinical resistance to tamoxifen therapy within the tumor tissue as well as endometrial toxicity. Further research is necessary to define the role of CYP1B1 in tamoxifen metabolism, especially in breast cancer where the role of tamoxifen metabolism is unclear."    To quote Bigsky20: "So, am I getting this right? Those with high levels CYP1B1 in their tumour can actually stop tamoxifen from working!?" Yes, according to the report there is a possibility of  "clinical resistance to tamoxifen therapy" with too much CYP1B1 promotion. What could have caused this? Perhaps the CYP1B1 promoter that Salvestrol Platinum 2000 contains. Or perhaps other factors are involved, I don't know. "My tumour stabilized when taking salvestrols and tamoxifen, where as it was shrinking previously on tamoxifen only." If you have been following this thread, you'll know that Gerry Potter says that it's okay to take Salvestrols with Tamoxifen. In Bigsky20's case, taking Salvestrols and Tamoxifen together does not seem to have a synergistic effect. They do not seem to work well together. Perhaps more time is required to assess her situation because she says that she has been advised to continue with this combined protocol. So while it may seem that the interaction between Tamoxifen and the Salvestrol makes both the Tamoxifen and Salvestrol less effective when used together, perhaps other factors such as hormone imbalances and genetics are involved. Also, consider the possibility that it may not be best to take Salvestrols with Tamoxifen for all cases due to individual differences. The paper states that "Further research is necessary to define the role of CYP1B1 in tamoxifen metabolism, especially in breast cancer where the role of tamoxifen metabolism is unclear.". So whatever you decide to do, please proceed with caution. Regards, Swift swift Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 18, 2013 3:58 AM Macdon wrote: On Mar 18, 2013 3:22 AM samoyed1 wrote:  I used to buy that suppliment, but it contains corn which as its not organic, worries me. Most corn I have read is GM.Which extract are you referring to? I wish people would use Reply when they refer to something with no name.Is it the Triple Action Cruciferous Vegetable Extract?Swansonvitamins says it contains no sugar, milk, egg, fish, peanuts, crustacean shellfish, soybeans, tree nuts, wheat, yeast, gluten or corn. No artificial sweeteners, flavors, colors or preservatives but later down in the same page it says, Contains yeast and corn.This product contains no milk, egg, fish, peanuts, crustacean shellfish, soybeans, tree nuts, wheat, gluten, or rice. Contains no artificial sweeteners, flavors, colors, or preservatives. sorry about that, you have to tick to quote, it sodesnt automatically do it for you. Yes that one contains corn, which is usually GM and as its not organic was concerened using it, expecailly as non organic forms of green veg are usually high in pesticides too. samoyed1 Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On mrt 18, 2013 2:09 cpmty wrote: I need someone to explain to me in plain English what this means. MY first language is not English and I am completly lost. Do we suppost to ean tagerines? or is the oposite, we shouldn't ?? I wish I could understan more and better. Thank you. They say that (too much) tangerines could stop tamoxifen from working. In salvestrols there are also parts of tangerines, so people wonder if salvestrols could stop tamoxifen from working. I remember Gerry once explained (somewhere on the messageboard) that this ISN'T true. I'll try to look it up and share it here! Auf wiedersehen und grüsse aus die Niederlande! ;) Inde43 Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 18, 2013 3:58 AM Macdon wrote: On Mar 18, 2013 3:22 AM samoyed1 wrote:  I used to buy that suppliment, but it contains corn which as its not organic, worries me. Most corn I have read is GM.Which extract are you referring to? I wish people would use Reply when they refer to something with no name.Is it the Triple Action Cruciferous Vegetable Extract?Swansonvitamins says it contains no sugar, milk, egg, fish, peanuts, crustacean shellfish, soybeans, tree nuts, wheat, yeast, gluten or corn. No artificial sweeteners, flavors, colors or preservatives but later down in the same page it says, Contains yeast and corn.This product contains no milk, egg, fish, peanuts, crustacean shellfish, soybeans, tree nuts, wheat, gluten, or rice. Contains no artificial sweeteners, flavors, colors, or preservatives. That should have read use Quote. It seems other sites say it does contain corn and most of it is GMO. That's a worry. This one may be an alternative https://www.swansonvitamins.com/natural-factors-womensense-e   Macdon Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 18, 2013 3:22 AM samoyed1 wrote:  I used to buy that suppliment, but it contains corn which as its not organic, worries me. Most corn I have read is GM.Which extract are you referring to? I wish people would use Reply when they refer to something with no name.Is it the Triple Action Cruciferous Vegetable Extract?Swansonvitamins says it contains no sugar, milk, egg, fish, peanuts, crustacean shellfish, soybeans, tree nuts, wheat, yeast, gluten or corn. No artificial sweeteners, flavors, colors or preservatives but later down in the same page it says, Contains yeast and corn.This product contains no milk, egg, fish, peanuts, crustacean shellfish, soybeans, tree nuts, wheat, gluten, or rice. Contains no artificial sweeteners, flavors, colors, or preservatives.  Macdon Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT  I used to buy that suppliment, but it contains corn which as its not organic, worries me. Most corn I have read is GM. samoyed1 Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT I need someone to explain to me in plain English what this means. MY first language is not English and I am completly lost. Do we suppost to ean tagerines? or is the oposite, we shouldn't ?? I wish I could understan more and better. Thank you.  cpmty Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT When I WAS treated in J. Hopkins Hosp. for my brst ca. They were doing a study precly on cruciferous vegetables to fight cancer (they did ask me to participate in their study but I didn't do it). I don't know their results or how long are they going to continue doing it. It will be nice if they publish them. cpmty Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thanks for all the links, guys. I love the way you all go after it. Makes my heart sing. You are the coolist. I read your material. The cruciferous vegetable extract sounds like a very good idea if it suppresses the production of pro-inflammatory compounds such as prostaglandins. After all, cancer is inflammation. As for breast cancer, I once had a holistic physician who said if your estrogen was balanced, you wouldn't have gotten breast cancer. So, I conclude from that, it's an imbalance of estrogen. How does estrogen inhibit CYP1B1 production? I don't know.  That's one for Gerry. I'm going to ask him, and I'll share what he says. Cheers, Joan AJoan Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Dear swift, opps, I forgot to ask this... The last sentence on your post from Mar 17, 2013 3:24 AMI noticed the use of the word "our". Here is the sentence: I believe that our list of these substances is currently incomplete. My thougt was right away that you may be part of the team working on salvestrols or are involved somehow with the research. Am I just being overly picky about a word? :) calin Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 17, 2013 2:04 PM bigsky20 wrote: I just found this information about tamoxifen, estrogen and CYP1b1. It's very interesting and some or most of it is above my head. Here is a portion of it: CYP1B1 may also be involved in the causation of endometrial cancers brought about by tamoxifen therapy (140-142). Tamoxifen is a potent antiestrogen used for the treatment of several estrogen-mediated cancers. CYP1B1 is the primary catalyst of trans-cis isomerization of trans-4-hydroxytamoxifen to 4′-hydroxytamoxifen (a weak estrogen agonist; see Fig. 3 ; ref. 143). The net result of such a conversion is the inactivation of trans-4-hydroxytamoxifen and the formation of a weak promoter of estrogen signaling. Indeed, clinical resistance to tamoxifen therapy has been associated with the increased formation of cis-hydroxytamoxifen (144), and CYP1B1-mediated metabolism may be directly responsible. Cell lines treated with tamoxifen in the absence of estrogen were shown to up-regulate CYP1B1 possibly through the estrogen-responsive element on the CYP1B1 promoter (52). CYP1B1 promoter methylation has also been associated with increases in overall survival after tamoxifen therapy, and this relationship is likely due to decreased CYP1B1 expression resulting in decreased tamoxifen metabolism (41). Thus, CYP1B1 may be involved in the disposition of tumors toward tamoxifen and its expression may be responsible for clinical resistance to tamoxifen therapy within the tumor tissue as well as endometrial toxicity. Further research is necessary to define the role of CYP1B1 in tamoxifen metabolism, especially in breast cancer where the role of tamoxifen metabolism is unclear.      The article is informative on other cancers as well. Here is the link:http://mcr.aacrjournals.org/content/4/3/135.full             "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://mcr.aacrjournals.org/content/4/3/135.full   target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://mcr.aacrjournals.org/content/4/3/135.full   So, am I getting this right. Those with high levels CYP1B1 in their tumour can actually stop tamoxifen from working! Could someone with a more scientific mind explain this to me? My tumour stabilized when taking salvestrols and tamoxifen, where as it was shrinking previously on tamoxifen only. bigsky20 Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Jerry said that we'd have to eat way more tangerines to stop tamoxifen from working. I'm still confused about all this though. http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/content/91/4/354.full.pdf Furthermore, we recently found that another methoxylated flavonoid, named nobiletin, is 10 times more potent than tangeretin in inhibiting NK cell activity   in vitro. In addition,   nobiletin is the major methoxylated flavone in orange oil (0.2%– 0.4%). Taken together, our results plead against excessive consumption of tangeretin-added products or dietary supplements by breast cancer patients during tamoxifen treatment. bigsky20 Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 17, 2013 3:24 AM swift wrote: Hi DawRa, Bigsky20, and others, I'm sorry to hear that Salvestrol was not able to stop the tumours in DawnRa's husband from growing and as for Bigsky20, that her tumour has remained the same size instead of shrinking. I've noticed that cancers such as neuroendrocrine cancer and breast cancer have something in common: hormone imbalance that may inhibit CYP1B1 enzymes. This is also a key factor in the expression of CYP1B1 enzymes and hence in the efficacy of Salvestrol. Professor Dan Burke is the expert in CYP1B1 enzymes, while Professor Gerry Potter is the expert in creating targeted anti-cancer prodrugs. As you may well know, they are co-discoverers of Salvestrols.  http://www.salvestrols.co.za/professor-dan-burke/  "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.salvestrols.co.za/professor-dan-burke/  " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.salvestrols.co.za/professor-dan-burke/  http://www.salvestrols.co.za/professor-gerry-potter/  "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.salvestrols.co.za/professor-gerry-potter/  " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.salvestrols.co.za/professor-gerry-potter/  Please refer to page 6 on Dan Burkes presentation entitled "Expression of CYPIBI protein in 14 different types of cancer and normal tissue",  http://www.ftsturizm.org/herban/sunumlar/9/SalvestrolsTurkey vetsSeptember2011veryshorttalk.pdf"" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ftsturizm.org/herban/sunumlar/9/SalvestrolsTurkey target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ftsturizm.org/herban/sunumlar/9/SalvestrolsTurkey Here, Dan Burke showed that CYP1B1 enzymes are present in 96% of cancers. I would like to caution everyone who are taking Salvestrols or are considering to do so: We have to be aware that everyone is different, and due to their genetics, the type of cancer or exposure to certain compounds, perhaps some people are unable to produce the level of CYP1B1 enzymes required for Salvestrol to work. We also have to be aware of the list substances that may, directly or indirectly, inhibit or deactivate CYP1B1 enzymes. I believe that our list of these substances is currently incomplete. Regards, SwiftHello swift! Thank you for the references via links. Very helpful! I was curious as to why Prof Burke says that ALL cancer cells express CYP1B1 (as indicated on page 8 of the link you gave) http://www.ftsturizm.org/herban/sunumlar/9/SalvestrolsTurkey vetsSeptember2011veryshorttalk.pdf while seeing that you indicated he said 96% of cells.... ie. not ALL cancer cells. So, after closer inspection, I noticed on - 1) pages 4 and 5 that the slide was incompelete - the results of cells tested were not evident until page 6;  2) page 6 shows that the lab did not test for the cells liver and small intesting as noted "not tested" which seems to account for the 96% as written at the bottom of the page which is a summary of the lab results for each type cancer. Would you agree with my analysis of the conflict between "all" and 96%? I do appreciate you bringing this to our attention as there does seem to be a clarification needed regarding this resource and what is being indicated via other materials regarding salvestrols. calin Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT I just found this information about tamoxifen, estrogen and CYP1b1. It's very interesting and some or most of it is above my head. Here is a portion of it: CYP1B1 may also be involved in the causation of endometrial cancers brought about by tamoxifen therapy (140-142). Tamoxifen is a potent antiestrogen used for the treatment of several estrogen-mediated cancers. CYP1B1 is the primary catalyst of trans-cis isomerization of trans-4-hydroxytamoxifen to 4′-hydroxytamoxifen (a weak estrogen agonist; see Fig. 3 ; ref. 143). The net result of such a conversion is the inactivation of trans-4-hydroxytamoxifen and the formation of a weak promoter of estrogen signaling. Indeed, clinical resistance to tamoxifen therapy has been associated with the increased formation of cis-hydroxytamoxifen (144), and CYP1B1-mediated metabolism may be directly responsible. Cell lines treated with tamoxifen in the absence of estrogen were shown to up-regulate CYP1B1 possibly through the estrogen-responsive element on the CYP1B1 promoter (52). CYP1B1 promoter methylation has also been associated with increases in overall survival after tamoxifen therapy, and this relationship is likely due to decreased CYP1B1 expression resulting in decreased tamoxifen metabolism (41). Thus, CYP1B1 may be involved in the disposition of tumors toward tamoxifen and its expression may be responsible for clinical resistance to tamoxifen therapy within the tumor tissue as well as endometrial toxicity. Further research is necessary to define the role of CYP1B1 in tamoxifen metabolism, especially in breast cancer where the role of tamoxifen metabolism is unclear.      The article is informative on other cancers as well. Here is the link:http://mcr.aacrjournals.org/content/4/3/135.full   bigsky20 Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT I notice that all the research mentioned here are done in GB, Does anyone knows anything ALTERNATIVE MED. sources, clinics, studies in Germany? I read that much of the alternative studies are done in Germany. Any one knows anything about this? Thank you for all previous information Great help! It seems to me that the best treatment is following several therapies/treatments that follow different ways to kill the cancer cells. Thanks again. cpmty Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Here is an article "Salvestrol Beat Breast Cancer" by Gerry Potter  http://goarticles.com/article/Salvestrols-Beat-Breast-Cancer To find out more of such articles, please go to that website and search for "Salvestrols" So I agree with AJoan and Indie43 that it makes sense: Salvestrols should work better with the CYP1B1 enzyme especially in breast cancer.  If it doesn't or doesn't seem to, then it's up to that person to find out why. What I've made is just an observation and a concern based on anectodal evidence on the thread. I'll continue to watch this thread and observe all your comments but I'll be selective in the questions that I'll answer. That is all, for now. Peace. Regards, Swift swift Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On mrt 17, 2013 11:05 AJoan wrote: By hormonal, are you referring to estrogen receptive? Are you saying Salvestrols work or don't work on estrogen receptive breast cancer? I should think it works on all kinds of breast cancer. For some reason, I find it hard to believe that any specific form of cancer would not have CYP1B1, in that it is in 96% of cancers. If not present in the cancer cell, I think the reason is something else. Find the reason. Please ask Gerry.  I read somewhere (I believe an article written by Gerry Potter.) that salvestrols can be used for all type of cancers, but that it is especially good for hormonal breastcancer, because this type of cancer contains a lot of the CYP1B1 enzym. So I don't understand Swifts concern. Inde43 Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Are you a scientist, Swift? (Just for my information!) Inde43 Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi all, Here are the two links (corrected): http://www.salvestrols.co.za/professor-dan-burke/ http://www.salvestrols.co.za/professor-gerry-potter/ In my view, people with any type of hormonal cancer imbalances (testosterone or estrogen), who don't have comparable results such as those documented in the Salvestrol case studies may want to give it a reasonable amount of time (not too long) to determine whether or not Salvestrol works for them from their own experience. Consult the experts, Dan Burke and Gerry Potter and consider taking additional precautions or supplements that promotes optimal estrogen metabolism, such as cruciferous vegetable extracts. Please refer to the list of ingredients in the product label of Salvestrol Platinum 2000. It contains "proprietary fruit extracts from bitter orange, grape, blueberry and blackberry." Salvestrol Platinum 2000 contains Salvestrol T55 which stimulates CYP1B1 expressionbut I've noticed that itdoesn't contain any cruciferous vegetable extract which is beneficial to people with a certain type of hormone imbalance.For those interested in additional hormone support to take with Salvestrol Platinum, consider this link which provides a source of cruciferous vegetables that helps to promote healthy estrogen metabolism, as well as additional anti-cancer support.  http://www.lef.org/Vitamins-Supplements/Item01468/Triple-Act  I quote the following from: http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2006/oct2006_report_crucifero  "Cruciferous vegetables help to shield us from cancer by protecting against toxic compounds encountered each day in our food, air, water, and environment. Estrogen-like compounds in the environment are called xenoestrogens. We ingest and absorb xenoestrogens from plastics used in beverage bottles and food containers, industrial chemicals, and pesticides. In the body, these xenoestrogens are toxic compounds that can potentially trigger the onset or progression of cancer. By mimicking estrogens, xenoestrogens influence hormonally regulated processes and induce changes in growth factors, which can set the stage for cancer." Another concern I have about Salvestrols is, because of potential individual differences,there is also a possibility of a rare mutation in the cancer geneof some individuals that may not allow the Salvestrol supplement to work in their cases despite taking all the precautions in avoiding cigarette smoke, resveratrol, B17, and others yet to be included in the list of things to avoid, etc. To determine whether or not the Salvestrol actually works in each individual case, careful monitoring, with regular CT scans for example, is advised. Regards, Swift swift Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT By hormonal, are you referring to estrogen receptive? Are you saying Salvestrols work or don't work on estrogen receptive breast cancer? I should think it works on all kinds of breast cancer. For some reason, I find it hard to believe that any specific form of cancer would not have CYP1B1, in that it is in 96% of cancers. If not present in the cancer cell, I think the reason is something else. Find the reason. Please ask Gerry.  AJoan Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Actually, Gerry said they have very good results with breast cancer and Salvestrols. Swift, I don't know how you came to that conclusion.  I went into the links on your post. Two of the pages have been removed. The last one opened, and it had a list of all the cancers that express CYP1B1. Breast cancer was on the list. I would suggest that those people who haven't had success reducing the tumor with Salvestrols, contact Gerry and ask him about it.   There may be something that can be done. Find out. J. AJoan Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT I mean hormonal breastcancer Inde43 Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT I thought l breastcancer contains a lot of the CYP1B1 enzym, and that is the reason why salvestrols are really good in treating breastcancer.... Inde43 Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi DawRa, Bigsky20, and others, I'm sorry to hear that Salvestrol was not able to stop the tumours in DawnRa's husband from growing and as for Bigsky20, that her tumour has remained the same size instead of shrinking. I've noticed that cancers such as neuroendrocrine cancer and breast cancer have something in common: hormone imbalance that may inhibit CYP1B1 enzymes. This is also a key factor in the expression of CYP1B1 enzymes and hence in the efficacy of Salvestrol. Professor Dan Burke is the expert in CYP1B1 enzymes, while Professor Gerry Potter is the expert in creating targeted anti-cancer prodrugs. As you may well know, they are co-discoverers of Salvestrols.  http://www.salvestrols.co.za/professor-dan-burke/  http://www.salvestrols.co.za/professor-gerry-potter/  Please refer to page 6 on Dan Burkes presentation entitled "Expression of CYPIBI protein in 14 different types of cancer and normal tissue",  http://www.ftsturizm.org/herban/sunumlar/9/SalvestrolsTurkey Here, Dan Burke showed that CYP1B1 enzymes are present in 96% of cancers. I would like to caution everyone who are taking Salvestrols or are considering to do so: We have to be aware that everyone is different, and due to their genetics, the type of cancer or exposure to certain compounds, perhaps some people are unable to produce the level of CYP1B1 enzymes required for Salvestrol to work. We also have to be aware of the list substances that may, directly or indirectly, inhibit or deactivate CYP1B1 enzymes. I believe that our list of these substances is currently incomplete. Regards, Swift swift Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 13, 2013 3:05 PM jennette wrote: Hi Kami, I hate losing mails! I lost 4 trying to reply to Gerry - I ended up thinking god just did not want me to write! I would guess that to dettox you would need to take a lot more chlorella. I put a tea spoon in a glass of kombucha which I brew myself (tastes nice and sposed to be good for you). The enzyme CYP1B1 is a cytochrome P450 - there are lots and lots of like - subgroups of P450 s all running around doing lots of good things. If salvestrols dont work, Gerry says it may be because one in five of us dont have the CP1B1's working properly. This could be a malfunction in the cytochrome P450?????? I will send you a link. Where is your tumour if you dont mind me asking? Found a site today where researchers were talking about different herbs and how they worked re cancer  never read that info before. Will get the site again and send it to you. Have you looked at the Navy protocol? Just looking at Celecoxib - a Cox2 inhibitor - they seem to be getting results using this with tamoxifen. If you look up 'Feverfew cancer' it seems that feverfew repairs DNA damage.  xxxxxxxx JennetteHi Jennette, Could you send me the link as well? I am not finding this anywhere about the 1 in 5 people with the CYP1B1 enzymes not working. Thank you knidly. calin Sat, 16 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 16, 2013 6:57 PM calin wrote: Sorry to hear about your husband DawnRa. I agree with Pat, that it is good to hear all reports of people using salvestrols. I understand that taking high doses of reveratrol can inhibit CYP1B1 as will as smoke from cigarettes (for lung only). B17 laetrile does has that same action as well. Is your husband taking any of the them? Have you chatted with the supplier of the salvestrol? No my Husband doesn't smoke. The only other supplements he is taking are Q10, Coriolus and a multi vitamin and mineral tablet - no B17 or resveratrol. Before increasing to 12,000 points, I contacted Gerry Potter via FB for advice. DawnRa Sat, 16 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Dear Dawnra, I am so sorry to hear about your husband! I think it is good to continue the use of salvestrols, because I heard there are two kind of responses. Some people react very fast, within a month, and other people seem to react slower, after a year. So don't give up! Inde43 Sat, 16 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Sorry to hear about your husband DawnRa. I agree with Pat, that it is good to hear all reports of people using salvestrols. I understand that taking high doses of reveratrol can inhibit CYP1B1 as will as smoke from cigarettes (for lung only). B17 laetrile does has that same action as well. Is your husband taking any of the them? Have you chatted with the supplier of the salvestrol? calin Sat, 16 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Sorry to hear about your husband DawnRa. I agree with Pat, that it is good to hear all reports of people using salvestrols. I understand that taking high doses of reveratrol can inhibit CYP1B1 as will as smoke from cigarettes (for lung only). B17 laetrile does has that same action as well. Is your husband taking any of the them? Have you chatted with the supplier of the salvestrol? calin Sat, 16 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 16, 2013 5:50 PM DawnRa wrote: I have been following this discussion for several months now, since my Husband was diagnosed with neuroendrocrine cancer with mets in September 2012. He started 6 cycles of chemo in October. He has been taking 12,000 points of Salvestrol Platinum since November. We have also dabbled with Budwig (just the muesli mix) and he has followed a mainly organic diet, no red meat or dairy. He had a CT scan in December 2012 and the tumours had grown and spread further. He had another scan in February and again the tumours have increased and spread. Chemo treatment stopped in February, with no further planned as he is too weak. I have seen no evidence so far that Salvestrols work, although he continues to take them.Sorry to hear your husband has not had a positive response with Salvestrols. My dad has also been taking 12000 pts since Dec. for prostate cancer which has not yet metasticized. He has had a favorable response after his last PSA test and hopefully the trend continues with his next. Thank you for sharing your experience with Salvestrols. We need to hear results- good or bad- to help us determine whether or not we are heading in the right direction with our unconventional treatments. Don't give up there may be some other treatments available that may help him. Best of luck. Pat patromano Sat, 16 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT I have been following this discussion for several months now, since my Husband was diagnosed with neuroendrocrine cancer with mets in September 2012. He started 6 cycles of chemo in October. He has been taking 12,000 points of Salvestrol Platinum since November. We have also dabbled with Budwig (just the muesli mix) and he has followed a mainly organic diet, no red meat or dairy. He had a CT scan in December 2012 and the tumours had grown and spread further. He had another scan in February and again the tumours have increased and spread. Chemo treatment stopped in February, with no further planned as he is too weak. I have seen no evidence so far that Salvestrols work, although he continues to take them. DawnRa Sat, 16 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thanks Kami. I hope I can be of some help. Just trying to share anything insightful that I am learning through research and by communicating with people a whole lot smarter than I am: the doctors and scientists involved in cancer research and healing. I asked Gerry this question: if a person combined organic produce with the super market variety of regular produce, would the absence of Salvestrols in the super market produce due to fungicide spraying, inhibit the Salvestrols capsules from working? His answer was no. The capsules would work. If you take Salvestrols capsules, you will be receiving all the Salvestrols you need, no matter where you buy your produce. Of course, when you eat organically grown produce, you will be getting "more" Salvestrols. If you don't take the capsules, then you must eat organically grown produce. A 1000 point capsule contains the same level of salvestrols as 10 kg of fruit. Gerry was more concerned about eliminating sugar from the diet. He believes low carb is crucial to starving cancer and getting rid of it. Does that clear up a few things? Another thing I'm concerned about is GMO foods. As cancer warriors, we need to be vigilant about GMOs. The good thing about certifed organic foods is that they are not GMO foods. My conclusion is eat organic at least 70% of the time.If you can eat it all the time, even better. Another ineresting doctor to check out is Dr. Leonard Coldwell. Put his name into Google, and lots of YouTube videos come up. He just makes a lot of sense to me. Cheers, Joan AJoan Fri, 15 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hey Jennette, Thank you for all the great info! My tumour is on my right chest wall, right at the very top of my breast. Will you send us all the links for the P450 and herbs? I'm looking up fever few too. The information that you and Joan are sharing with all of us is invaluble.   Kami   bigsky20 Fri, 15 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 15, 2013 9:26 AM pradapee wrote: Paw Paw sounds interesting but think its inportant to read all the stuff you should NOT take in you embark on that treament.... no vit C or reservatol (an ingredient in Salvestrols) .. all this is in the link you provided. I amtaking salvestrols so I guess should not try paw paw at the same time....   ?Hi, To address everyone's concern about combining Paw Paw with Salvestrols, please refer to the product label for the latest info: http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/product/paw-paw-cell-reg-1 The following is printed on the product label of Paw Paw: "NOTE: Co-Q10, Thyroid Support and 7-Keto may decrease the effectiveness of this product. Only those with cellular abnormalities should take this product on a regular/daily basis. Do not take this product if you are pregnant, think you may become pregnant, or if you are breastfeeding. " As you can see: resveratrol, vitamin c, or any types of salvestrols aren't in the list of what to avoid with Paw Paw.  Furthermore, here's the latest info regarding antioxidants and Paw Paw: http://www.pawpawresearch.com/pawpaw-mangosteen.htm "Over the past several years, it had been theorized that the action of paw paw might be nullified if it were taken with strong antioxidants. This theory (untested until recently) assumed that since antioxidants increase ATP and paw paw decreases ATP, that the two would, in effect, "cancel" each other out. Historically, positive results (via testimonials) have been reported using antioxidants. With the positive results reported with paw paw, it was a great consternation to cancer patients who would prefer to take both therapies. As Dr. Jerry McLaughlin reported in our video interview with him, Dr. Fred Valeriote of the Ford Cancer Clinic decided to do laboratory experiments of several different strong antioxidants with the paw paw to determine if this theory was indeed correct. The testing apparently showed that there was no "cancelling effect", but in the case of certain antioxidants, notably a mangosteen fruit juice (one of most powerful antioxidant substances known), there was actually a synergistic effect between the two." Also, Paw Paw doesn't contain B17 or resveratrol. In terms of ingredients, it's OK to take Paw Paw with Salvestrols. :)  Regards, Swift swift Fri, 15 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi cpmty, It seems very funny and high tech to me too. If it were not for my doctor, I would never have taken APeX on my own, only because this kind of science is completely foreign to me. I agree, there's a lot that looks woo woo to me too. I think we must be cautious and open minded at the same time. Kooky, scammy things are happening as well as great science. All going on now. Have to know the difference. Just sent you a private message. Cheers, Joan AJoan Fri, 15 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Paw Paw sounds interesting but think its inportant to read all the stuff you should NOT take in you embark on that treament.... no vit C or reservatol (an ingredient in Salvestrols) .. all this is in the link you provided. I amtaking salvestrols so I guess should not try paw paw at the same time....   ? pradapee Fri, 15 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT thank you for the information. i will google it to find out more info. Thanks again. cpmty Fri, 15 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT are you sure that is the real thing? it looks 'funny' to me of course, i don't know anything. but no once they talk about research or studies o anything scientific etc etc... be aware of fake doctors, supplements, and herbs/plants and 'charlatanes' I list here many names of people telling a story and is not truth. Many want to sell something and by the time you find out you lost precious time to find a real cure or doctor. I found a website that you can listen or watch and may help some people (or not...) different therapies, they sound good sources and they give good advice to fight cancer. and as they say, fight cancer aggresively and you need more than one therapy to fight it, no just one herb or plant or therapy.  CancerCleanseCamp.com maybe you already know  cpmty Fri, 15 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thanks for that info Swift. Just want to let you all know that my doctor has been getting excellent results using Salvestrols. He's an alternative cancer specialist who has used many protocols to control/or cure (put into remission) cancer in patients with different kinds of cancer. I've been on Salvestrols just a little over one month, so it's too soon for me to report any changes. Even if there are changes, I won't test again for 3 months, and that's average  length of time it takes to see a difference in patients taking Salvestrol Platinum. Also want to make you aware of APeX nano silver. http://apexuap.com/ Read about it, interesting story, and decide for yourself. I've taken it for several months. It actually oxygenates your cells, so you feel very good "airy" when you take it. It was prescribed by my doctor, btw. Cheers to health! J. AJoan Thu, 14 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 14, 2013 3:58 PM swift wrote: Dear all, Let's remind ourselves to keep this discussion civilised and refrain from personal attacks. So thanks for the support, Inde43. And I do not mean to offend anyone here, including Aantony. Here is the continuation of my list. The reason I'm posting this is for everyone to read. It is for informational purposes only. I am not here to recommend any product. My father has been recently diagnosed with colon cancer and he is not yet convinced to take any of the natural supplements that I have suggested. I hope that he does so and that he gets well soon. Statistically, his chances of living beyond 5 years is not good and I'm worried that his cancer may worsen and if it worsens, his life expectancy may shorten even to less than a year. I may update you on his progress, good or bad, if he decides to begin a course of at least Salvestrol and Paw Paw. The Anti-Cancer List (continued..) 3. Polysaccharides sourced from polysaccharide-rich fungi and plantsReason: Certain polysaccharides have antitumor and immunomodulatory effects. For efficacy, take this supplement one hour before food or two hours after food. 4. Cruciferous vegetable extract (for additional salvestrols, CYP1B1 stimulation and anti-estrogen effect to balance the hormones)Caution: May interfere with oral contraceptives. If pregnant or intending to become pregnant, do not use this product. Do not use if taking antacids, H2-receptor blockers (e.g. Zantac), or proton-pump inhibitors (e.g. Nexium), as these drugs may impede the conversion of I3C to active metabolites.It may be taken with food. 5. Proteolytic enzymes: bromelain + serrapeptase Reason: Some types of tumours may be encapsulated with a layer of protein. The proteolytic enzymes help to breakdown the protein that may encapsulate some tumours so that the other anti-cancer agents may reach the tumours. Note: This supplement is not required for non-tumour cancers.For efficacy, take this supplement one hour before food or two hours after food. The top two most potent supplements in my list of 5 anti-cancer supplements are Salvestrol Platinum and Nature's Sunshine Paw Paw Cell Reg. For links to important documentation you may go to: 1:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvestrols "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvestrols " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvestrols 2:  http://www.pawpawresearch.com "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.pawpawresearch.com " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.pawpawresearch.com 3:   http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2998446/pdf/1475 -2891-9-54.pdf"" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2998446/pdf/1475 target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2998446/pdf/1475   4:   http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2006/oct2006_report_crucifero us_01.htm"" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2006/oct2006_report_crucifero target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2006/oct2006_report_crucifero   5:   http://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/herb/proteolytic-enzymes "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/herb/proteolytic-enzymes " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/herb/proteolytic-enzymes   5:   http://www.amazon.com/Enzyme-Treatment-Cancer-John-Beard/dp/ 0982196520"" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Enzyme-Treatment-Cancer-John-Beard/dp/ target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Enzyme-Treatment-Cancer-John-Beard/dp/   It's important to note that certain types of exercises (such as rebounding on a trampoline or perhaps the Chi Quong squats that Bigsky commented on) may have an important role in the healing process. It helps to oxygenate the cells through blood circulation, detoxify through sweating and helps to drain the lymphatic system. When deciding on which supplements to take or what type of exercise to do, kindly proceed with caution and use your discretion. Good luck in the fight against cancer and thanks for reading... For further inquiry, please be advised to do your own research. :) Regards, Swift I just would like to protect the others from unproven alternative treatments, even there are a lot of 'good' information on internet Like LifeOne.  If you Google lifeone you will find a lot of fake misleading evidence for cancer treatment. My wife with stage four colon cancer followed the LifeOne protocol and her cancer got much, much worse. Now we are back to chemo aantony Thu, 14 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Ps I am sorry, when I make paragraphs on the Ipad (while writing a message for the messageboard), it is all gone after sending.. that is why my messages are always much text without space in between. (But hopefully still readable) Inde43 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT These are (healing) exercises to improve the circulation of "chi" in the body. The ancient Chi Gong masters said that doing these exercises every day for at least a year, will make every cancer go into remission. But unfortunately most people from the west already stop squating within a year. (Due to lack of disciplin) So it is important to do the exercises with complete attention and disciplin. Every day. On youtube you can watch the proper techniques to do this. Search for "Chi gong wall squats" or "Qi Gong wall squats". Good luck! Best regards, Inde (from the Netherlands) Inde43 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT sorry but what is chi quong squats? is the first time i hear this. cpmty Thu, 14 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Dear all, Let's remind ourselves to keep this discussion civilised and refrain from personal attacks. So thanks for the support, Inde43. And I do not mean to offend anyone here, including Aantony. Here is the continuation of my list. The reason I'm posting this is for everyone to read. It is for informational purposes only. I am not here to recommend any product. My father has been recently diagnosed with colon cancer and he is not yet convinced to take any of the natural supplements that I have suggested. I hope that he does so and that he gets well soon. Statistically, his chances of living beyond 5 years is not good and I'm worried that his cancer may worsen and if it worsens, his life expectancy may shorten even to less than a year. I may update you on his progress, good or bad, if he decides to begin a course of at least Salvestrol and Paw Paw. The Anti-Cancer List (continued..) 3. Polysaccharides sourced from polysaccharide-rich fungi and plantsReason: Certain polysaccharides have antitumor and immunomodulatory effects. For efficacy, take this supplement one hour before food or two hours after food. 4. Cruciferous vegetable extract (for additional salvestrols, CYP1B1 stimulation and anti-estrogen effect to balance the hormones)Caution: May interfere with oral contraceptives. If pregnant or intending to become pregnant, do not use this product. Do not use if taking antacids, H2-receptor blockers (e.g. Zantac), or proton-pump inhibitors (e.g. Nexium), as these drugs may impede the conversion of I3C to active metabolites.It may be taken with food. 5. Proteolytic enzymes: bromelain + serrapeptase Reason: Some types of tumours may be encapsulated with a layer of protein. The proteolytic enzymes help to breakdown the protein that may encapsulate some tumours so that the other anti-cancer agents may reach the tumours. Note: This supplement is not required for non-tumour cancers.For efficacy, take this supplement one hour before food or two hours after food. The top two most potent supplements in my list of 5 anti-cancer supplements are Salvestrol Platinum and Nature's Sunshine Paw Paw Cell Reg. For links to important documentation you may go to: 1:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvestrols 2:  http://www.pawpawresearch.com 3:   http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2998446/pdf/1475   4:   http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2006/oct2006_report_crucifero   5:   http://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/herb/proteolytic-enzymes   5:   http://www.amazon.com/Enzyme-Treatment-Cancer-John-Beard/dp/   It's important to note that certain types of exercises (such as rebounding on a trampoline or perhaps the Chi Quong squats that Bigsky commented on) may have an important role in the healing process. It helps to oxygenate the cells through blood circulation, detoxify through sweating and helps to drain the lymphatic system. When deciding on which supplements to take or what type of exercise to do, kindly proceed with caution and use your discretion. Good luck in the fight against cancer and thanks for reading... For further inquiry, please be advised to do your own research. :) Regards, Swift swift Thu, 14 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT I do them too! They give the immunesystem an enormous boost! :)) Inde43 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Very interesting! BTW, I've been doing those Chi Quong squats that you told me about, lol. Love them! bigsky20 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Gerry told me that salvestrols are fyto-estrogens too, but in a good way! They help the hormonal system to get balanced. Soya products must be avoided in high doses, because they contain another type estrogens, which can do harm. (Isoflavones I believe?) Inde43 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Celia I accidentally mixed the site medical aloe .com with the article. Click on this link, it's very interesting. It just might be one thing to add to your arsenal.http://www.naturalnews.com/028239_aloe_vera_FDA.html If anyone takes curcumin. I purchase bioavailable curcumin that is made byhttp://www.longvida.com/index.php but is sold by different companied. I always check to see if the bottle I'm purchasing comes from Longvida. Also, when I search for supplements, I always type in the word "bioavailable" to search for the latest and greatest. I also take EGCG a green tea supplement that is showing cancer destructive abilities. I have estrogen postive breast cancer, so I always check to see if an herb, food or pill is estrogenic. Especially herbs!! bigsky20 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Celia, I only buy Spirulina from Hawaii the brand is "Pure Hawaiian Spirulina Pacifica" Read this article and it should help you know what to look for when reading bottles:http://blog.watershed.net/2011/03/30/know-your-source-of-spi Do any of you need a good source of Aloe Vera? I searched and searched and found this Dr. that the FDA came after becasue he was curing hospice patients. His office in Florida was closed down, but he still sells his Aloe out of Texas. Here is an article you might like and if you want to get his aloe it can be purchased at medical aloe.comhttp://www.naturalnews.com/028239_aloe_vera_FDA.html bigsky20 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Have you tried salvestrols already, Aantony? I am very pleased with the information Swift wrote! Inde43 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 14, 2013 1:40 PM swift wrote: Hi everyone, I'd like to thank you all for posting your comments and contibuting to the discussion. It has been a learning experience for me and I'd like to share with you my conclusions after weeks of researching anti-cancer supplements as someone who is interested natural ways to eliminate cancer. Through my readings, I've learnt that there are many pathways to cancer and that there are different mechanisms to fight against cancer. And there is a concern in the cancer community that combining anti-cancer supplements would make their anti-cancer protocols less effective. In general, the consensus is to avoid sugar, refined carbohydrates, and supplements that contain growth factors because all these would feed the cancer cells. Also, occasionally undergoing detoxification to rid the body of carcinogens and heavy metals may help with the healing process. After weeks of researching supplements, I've finally come up with a shortlist of 5 supplements that when used together, may have synergistic anti-cancer effects. Dosages to take are based on severity of cancer. The top 2 are: 1. Salvestrol Platinum+ cofactors from vitamins and minerals. Note: Salvestrol Cream should also be applied topically for melanoma and tumours on the skinAvoid: B17, CYP1B1 inhibitors and commercial anti-fungal agents.It may be taken with food. 2. Nature's Sunshine Paw Paw Cell Reg(standardized extract from paw paw twigs) Avoid: CoQ10, and other ATP-stimulants.Note: Paw Paw also has anti-bacterial effects in the gut, so when taken for longer than 1 month, be advised to supplement with probiotics to replenish the bacteria in the gut.It may be taken with food. For links to important documentation you may go to: 1. en.wikipedia.org "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Salvestrols 2.www.pawpawresearch.com "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://2.www.pawpawresearch.com " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">2.www.pawpawresearch.com These two supplements have been documented to have potent levels of anti-cancer compounds against various types of cancers. And in terms of cost, they are quite affordable to me. I've never been diagnosed with cancer but if I was, I would definitely be taking these two supplements together. My complete shortlist consists of 5 supplements, I'll continue with the other 3 supplements that may be taken with Salvestrols in my next post. Regards, SwiftHi swift, I think you are trying to sell selvestrols! Please don’t post if you don’t have any personal experience. This site is designed to share the cancer patient personal experience, good or bad to help the others. Cancer is very complex disease and don’t simplify if. I been searching for alternative treatments for six years and haven’t seen any good, clear cat case where herb/vitamins were able to control  the cancer growth. All cases I have seen are not complete or misleading.           aantony Thu, 14 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi everyone, I'd like to thank you all for posting your comments and contibuting to the discussion. It has been a learning experience for me and I'd like to share with you my conclusions after weeks of researching anti-cancer supplements as someone who is interested natural ways to eliminate cancer. Through my readings, I've learnt that there are many pathways to cancer and that there are different mechanisms to fight against cancer. And there is a concern in the cancer community that combining anti-cancer supplements would make their anti-cancer protocols less effective. In general, the consensus is to avoid sugar, refined carbohydrates, and supplements that contain growth factors because all these would feed the cancer cells. Also, occasionally undergoing detoxification to rid the body of carcinogens and heavy metals may help with the healing process. After weeks of researching supplements, I've finally come up with a shortlist of 5 supplements that when used together, may have synergistic anti-cancer effects. Dosages to take are based on severity of cancer. The top 2 are: 1. Salvestrol Platinum+ cofactors from vitamins and minerals. Note: Salvestrol Cream should also be applied topically for melanoma and tumours on the skinAvoid: B17, CYP1B1 inhibitors and commercial anti-fungal agents.It may be taken with food. 2. Nature's Sunshine Paw Paw Cell Reg(standardized extract from paw paw twigs) Avoid: CoQ10, and other ATP-stimulants.Note: Paw Paw also has anti-bacterial effects in the gut, so when taken for longer than 1 month, be advised to supplement with probiotics to replenish the bacteria in the gut.It may be taken with food. For links to important documentation you may go to: 1. en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Salvestrols 2.www.pawpawresearch.com These two supplements have been documented to have potent levels of anti-cancer compounds against various types of cancers. And in terms of cost, they are quite affordable to me. I've never been diagnosed with cancer but if I was, I would definitely be taking these two supplements together. My complete shortlist consists of 5 supplements, I'll continue with the other 3 supplements that may be taken with Salvestrols in my next post. Regards, Swift swift Thu, 14 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Very good database of herbs as someone requested. Database of knowledge on Herbs, Botanicals & Other Products (Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer center):http://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/integrative-medicine/about- mastergreener Thu, 14 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 14, 2013 12:12 AM cpmty wrote: Any way I was trying to ask something that you may know. I just read in a newsletter that chlorella y spirulina (i can't remember how to spelled) are full of heavy metals if they came from Asia specially China and Japan Taiwan etc... Do you know anything about this? I bought a bottle of Chlrella but I am affraid to use it now 9(Idon't know where it came from, China??). And where are you bying yours, Swanson? are they reliable? (serious I don't want anything fromChina)I don't know if this is addressed to me, but I do buy most products from Swansonvitamins, however I buy Now products from them and they are organic or at least supposed to be. They cost just that little bit more. China is a big worry though. They have absolutely no standards that one could trust, however that would not apply to everything from there. This needs further investigation.     Macdon Thu, 14 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Any way I was trying to ask something that you may know. I just read in a newsletter that chlorella y spirulina (i can't remember how to spelled) are full of heavy metals if they came from Asia specially China and Japan Taiwan etc... Do you know anything about this? I bought a bottle of Chlrella but I am affraid to use it now 9(Idon't know where it came from, China??). And where are you bying yours, Swanson? are they reliable? (serious I don't want anything fromChina) cpmty Thu, 14 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT I THINK there is a problem with the site because I too loss some postings that I tried to put here.  cpmty Thu, 14 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 13, 2013 3:05 PM jennette wrote: Hi Kami, I hate losing mails! I lost 4 trying to reply to Gerry - I ended up thinking god just did not want me to write! I would guess that to dettox you would need to take a lot more chlorella. I put a tea spoon in a glass of kombucha which I brew myself (tastes nice and sposed to be good for you). The enzyme CYP1B1 is a cytochrome P450 - there are lots and lots of like - subgroups of P450 s all running around doing lots of good things. If salvestrols dont work, Gerry says it may be because one in five of us dont have the CP1B1's working properly. This could be a malfunction in the cytochrome P450?????? I will send you a link. Where is your tumour if you dont mind me asking? Found a site today where researchers were talking about different herbs and how they worked re cancer  never read that info before. Will get the site again and send it to you. Have you looked at the Navy protocol? Just looking at Celecoxib - a Cox2 inhibitor - they seem to be getting results using this with tamoxifen. If you look up 'Feverfew cancer' it seems that feverfew repairs DNA damage.  xxxxxxxx JennetteHi Jennette, How about posting that site where researchers were talking about different herbs and how they worked re cancer, here for all to benefit? Thanks, Macdon.      Macdon Wed, 13 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT do you know if this man is getting better (with Ave,Ultra), is it helping him? cpmty Wed, 13 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT THANK YOU I will do that. I should be careful since I don't know anything and just read a lot of this comments here to find out more about different treatments and ways. Do you know how much I should be taking? I will try to order tomorrow or the day after (now I am doing the taxes). Also I read about paw paw (and other exotic fruits?) that are youtube as treatments for cancer. I will research this too (I am learning how to now ). Thanks a lot. I really think that most of our cancers are do to sooooo much and many different chemicals (food,air, water, earth...), pestecides and antifungal and radiation ... etc... it is incredible. Thanks again.  cpmty Wed, 13 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Jennette might have a better answer for you, but I know a man who is taking AveUltra and he has brain cancer. It's a little expensive though. I'm planning on getting some for myself. The link below explains it in detail. http://www.prohealth.com/library/showarticle.cfm?libid=15246 bigsky20 Wed, 13 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi do you know do they work for brain tumors and if so should my dad be on other supplements to enhance achievement ? dondons Wed, 13 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT That was a first for me in this thread. My post had to be approved before they would publish it. AJoan Wed, 13 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Actually Kami, my doctor hasn't tested me for glutamine issues. Thanks for the heads up on that. I'll be seeing him tomorrow. Coincidently, he's big on eggs. I eat two for breakfast in the form of a frittata. Meanwhile, I am doing just what Gerry Potter and Dan Burke prescribe: emphasis on organic vegetables, some organic fruit, some protein, low carbs, none of the starchy vegetables. The red and green diet. Everything either lightly steamed, roasted or raw. Not too far from ketogenic, lots of healthy oils and fats. Lots of leafy greens and the bitter varieties such as broccoli rabe. I'd say I'm doing a moderate ketogenic diet already. My doctor doesn't want me to eat fruit at all, just berries. I feel some fruit is beneficial. Have you seen this site? http://www.pdazzler.com/archives/1466 On it is an excellent video from Dan Burke. you might find it interesting. Might be enlighening in some ways. I'll share whatever wisdom I receive from my doctor. Are you working with an alternative doctor? Kindest regards, Joan AJoan Wed, 13 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Kami, I hate losing mails! I lost 4 trying to reply to Gerry - I ended up thinking god just did not want me to write! I would guess that to dettox you would need to take a lot more chlorella. I put a tea spoon in a glass of kombucha which I brew myself (tastes nice and sposed to be good for you). The enzyme CYP1B1 is a cytochrome P450 - there are lots and lots of like - subgroups of P450 s all running around doing lots of good things. If salvestrols dont work, Gerry says it may be because one in five of us dont have the CP1B1's working properly. This could be a malfunction in the cytochrome P450?????? I will send you a link. Where is your tumour if you dont mind me asking? Found a site today where researchers were talking about different herbs and how they worked re cancer  never read that info before. Will get the site again and send it to you. Have you looked at the Navy protocol? Just looking at Celecoxib - a Cox2 inhibitor - they seem to be getting results using this with tamoxifen. If you look up 'Feverfew cancer' it seems that feverfew repairs DNA damage.  xxxxxxxx Jennette jennette Wed, 13 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Joan, The best thing that you have going for you is a doctor that wants you to do the diet. If you start it and he tests you properly, he should be able to tell if it's not working for you. I don't know how he'd do it though, but I would ask him if he'll be able to tell. Jerry is right, not everyone does well on this diet, but I don't think it's because ketones and healthy fats fuel cancer. Thomas Seyfried said in his videos that if the diet isn't working, the tumor cell could be taking up glutamine for fuel. This diet will work for some of us and not for others. I'm going to get some tests done from Cyrex Labs to check for gluten sensitivities and cross reactives like eggs. Cyrex is the leader in gluten blood tests. Did your doctor do any of these tests for you? If you ever begin the diet, you might want to make sure that you can eat things like eggs, hemp etc. just to be on the safe side. I found an online site that will put the prescription into Cyrex and send you the kits that you take to a Cyrex approved lab. They also will give you a free consult over the phone when the results come back in. It's way cheaper than paying a doctor to do it. I can't wait for victory stories either and I'll keep the faith! Thank you so much for sending me love and light, it touches my heart. You're welcome for the research! Jerry did open my eyes about the diet and it is making me research it even further. That is how I found the whole glutamine issue. I would ask your doctor about it! Your buddy, Kami bigsky20 Wed, 13 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Celia, Do your research on Graviola soursop! There is some misleading info out there about it and it could cause some problems if taken over a long period of time or in high doses. I think it's fine at a regular dose, but just do your homework. You can type "Graviola Soursop for cancer" in your search engine and all the info that I saw should pop up on your computer. bigsky20 Wed, 13 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Celia, Do your research on Graviola soursop! There is some misleading info out there about it and it could cause some problems if taken over a long period of time or in high doses. I think it's fine at a regular dose, but just do your homework. You can type "Graviola Soursop for cancer" in your search engine and all the info that I saw should pop up on your computer. bigsky20 Wed, 13 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Jennette, I just posted a long reply to your post, but it didn't go through! Oh, do I want to type it all again, or not lol. I'm going to make it brief this time if that's ok. Yes, please send me the dosage. I don't understand the P450 concept. I take Spirulina Pacifica everyday and Chlorella about twice a week and I take a transdermal glutathione called Oxicell. Yes, I'm taking all the vitamins to help Salvestrols work. If the ketogenic diet doesn't work for my body, I think that I just might build up the courage to try the bloodroot/salvestrol remedy. My tumor is right under my skin. I'm running out of options here. Thank God you're doing well! Kami             bigsky20 Wed, 13 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT thank you so much. I will order some graviola. I am not sure about paw paw... I need to read more about it. THANKS.  cpmty Wed, 13 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Inde, I think I'm just a different case. I don't know if I think stabiling is a good thing when it was shrinking previously, but I didn't have the guts to continue. I'm being advised to get off of tamoxifen and Salvestrols are going to be added back into my protocol. Kami bigsky20 Wed, 13 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT I bought the graviola fromwww.swansonvitamins.com – the Now brand -http://www.swansonvitamins.com/now-foods-graviola-100-caps They wouldn’t ship the extract to Australia -http://www.swansonvitamins.com/amazon-therapeutic-labs-gravi I bought the paw-paw tea from my local health food shop in Australia and the brand I bought washttp://www.rochway.com.au/dried-paw-paw-leaf-tea-125g.htm I also go paw-paw fromwww.healthy-sunshine.com /nspshopping/shopexd.asp?ID=692after reading about them onwww.pawpawresearch.com / Remember what it says about paw-paw. Paw Paw Cell-Reg™ selectively targets specific cells to enhance the overall health of the body. Paw Paw twigs contains acetogenins-active compounds that modulate the production of ATP in mitochondria of specific cells, which affects the viability of specific cells and the growth of blood vessels that nourish them. A recent clinical study with over 100 participants showed that the paw paw extract, containing a mixture of acetogenins, supports the body's normal cells during times of cellular stress. Paw Paw Cell-Reg is a valuable tool in strengthening and supportingthe immune system. This patent-pending product is the only standardized acetogenin product available to regulate specific cells. Each capsule contains 8.5 mg of standardized paw paw twig extract. Take 2 capsules with food three times daily. Do not take with Co-Q10, Thyroid Support, SOD or 7-Keto™. Do not exceed the number of recommended servings. Only those who desire to target specific cells should take this product on a regular/daily basis. Macdon Wed, 13 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT where did you get the graviola pills and paw paw? Someone sent me an email asking me if I wanted to buy some but I am affraid is a scam. I don't trust the places (youtube). Do you get it from a specific site? Thank you, if you can help me i will be greatful. cpmty Wed, 13 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Jennette,I’m fine thanks and hopefully my mother, who had a cancerous growth cut out of her bowel is good too! I’ve put her on a regime that includes.4 salvestrols2 Curcumin 95 + sometimes 2 tumeric pills2 beta glucans1 multivitamin1 or 2 graviola pills and/or paw-paw and Jason Winter’s tea2 indole-3-carbinolUp to 6 green barley pills2 or 3 chlorella pills3 VitalzymOrganic diet whenever possible with little read meat and mostly chicken and fishCottage cheese and flax seed oil – maintenance dose. I think the curative dose is ¾ cup of cottage cheese with 1/3 cup flax seed oil and the maintenance dose is half that.Limited dairy and sugar as well as high glycemic foods.As a bonus of this new regime her varicose veins seem to be dissipating and her blood sugar has gone down.Oh yeah, I took her off statin drugs for cholesterol. All my research tells me those who low cholesterol are more likely to get cancer and those who live longer have higher levels of cholesterol. One question I’d like to have answered is what effects would a statin have on good fats like the cottage cheese flaxseed oil?Here is something you can read. Don’t take it as gospel as the argument about good fats/bad fats still rages. http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&sourc An explosive article published in the 2007 issue of Journal of the American College of Cardiology revealed that statins, previously reported to have relatively few serious side effects, can significantly increase the risk of cancer. Specifically, the increased risk of cancer has been significantly correlated with the lowering of LDL cholesterol— an unforeseen negative outcome.With statin use, the increase in cancer deaths counteracts the supposed lower cardiac mortality associated with lower cholesterol, resulting in a neutral effect or increased overall mortality. Translation: with statin use, even if you don’t die of a heart attack, you will likely die of cancer.Cheers,Macdon. Macdon Wed, 13 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi again Kami, Hope you don't think I'm dumping on the ketogenic diet. Bear in mind, I know very little about it. I'm gathering information from what I think are reliable sources. Thank you for providing some good leads. I respect Gerry's feedback, while considering the viewpoints of all scientists directly involved in ketogenic diet research. I have to understand it myself, as well as I can,  in order to have enough faith in my decision to commit to it, or not. I'm of the belief that our own "beliefs" heal us. In the long run, we heal ourselves. There are many protocols that will erase cancer, not just one. Heck, people have claimed to cure cancer with a simple diet alone. Just have to find the right one that works for you, me, and other people. Can be an individual thing. My biggest consideration is first do no harm. Otherwise, I'm open to giving things a go. Very odd for all of us to be in this position. We're being called on to "trust". Trust in the great science that has been put in our paths, trust in God, and trust in ourselves. I can't wait to read all the victory stories in this blog, my own included. Keep the faith Kami. I'm sending you love and light. Again, I deeply appreciate all the research you have done and are generously sharing with all of us. Your buddy, J.   AJoan Tue, 12 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Macdon, Thanks for your reply, I used the Budwig protocol for a long time but it did not seem to do the trick for me. I use liposomal vit c now - but perhaps I should go back to the flaxseed oil - I liked it! I do like the organic foods - they make you feel so much better I think - and as you say, the flavour is much better. Did you see the doctor on Ted talks who had MS and went through all the conventional treatments with absolutely no success. Then she did a lot of research and changed her diet - one plate of raw leafy food a day, one of colourful stuff, and one I think of cooked veg - must check this again - and she recovered from the MS. Very interesting. But you are right, I have to make sure I have enough organic stuff.  How are you? jennette Tue, 12 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT You are such a gutsy lady - I love it!  You do need a prescription for chloroquine, but it is a drug which has been around for such a long time there does not seem to be a problem. You take it at a realy low dose - I can send the dosage to you. I am interested to know why 1 in 5 of us do not have the necessary to process the salvestrols properly. The cytochrome P450 (of which the CYP1B1 enzyme is one) apparently is involved in getting rid of toxins. Chlorella is good at getting rid of toxins in the body(see the research). There is also something called glutathione which is worth looking up.( I take it sublingually in a product by nutri - called SOD ).I had a lot of problems about 12 years ago and had to take lots of antifungal medication. There is an idea that toxicity, stress, and infections can upset the P450 mechanisms. I actually did not realise that antifungals could affect the way salvestrols work...actually in the body. Are you taking the vitamins etc needed to help the salvestrols work - I would think you are! I read quite a lot about bloodroot. Again, there is an idea that the blood root causes such a lot of inflammation that if you give up on the treatment half way it can spread the cancer. I believe there are different types of salves - apparently the ones with sulphur or zinc in them take the bloodroot through too effectively and are less than gentle!But certainly the lady using the bloodroot seems to be doing well. The skin cancer was oozing, and big - so she used salvestrols to begin with and the skin started healing up nicely, then she used the less fierce bloodroot salve on the less inflamed areas - with vit e I think. And certainly the cancers are becoming more docile. I suppose one could use it with castor oil which would reduce the inflammation? Have not been brave enough to try it. Yes - by the time I had the D & C there was nothing to be seen - I had gone off the tamoxifen and had been taking letrozole instead to counter the effects of the tamoxifen on the womb. Thank you for your concern.  xxxxxxx jennette jennette Tue, 12 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Jennette, The Budwig Protocol of cottage cheese and flaxseed oil should keep you oxygenated at a cellular level. It is also a natural cancer cure in its own right. So couple that with salvestrols and you should be right to go in achieving oxygenation and assisting salvestrols. I also think you have to do some kind of cleanse if you think you are infested with pesticides and other chemicals they spray on our food as they may neutralise the salvestrols much the way they do with the fruit and vegetables they are sprayed on. You’re going to have to go organic I think. I know it costs more but the food tastes much better at least and we know it’s healthier for you. Macdon Tue, 12 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hello Jennette, Do you need a prescription for chlorquine? I do take dandelion root extract and teas. I stay away from as many chemicals as possible, but that doesn't mean that my system is free of them. I lived near a watermelon farm as a young girl and pesticides and anti fungals were sprayed by plane and they would go right over my house. My brothers and sisters were out of the home and I was the only one left with my parents while this occured. My mom is dead from breast cancer and I'm the youngest of my siblings by 5 years and i have breast cancer and none of them do. Maybe I'm full of antifungals! Maybe you've hit the nail on the head.....this could by why I didn't do well with Salvestrols. Hmmmm I actually had IV's of blood root, c, colloidal silver, chelation and others during an $8,000.00 underground cancer treatment from a trusted family friend who has helped men with prostate cancer. My treatments consisted of IV's every 3 days for 3 months. Soon after that I was tested and the tumor didn't make a move. Topical blood root is very dangerous and one has to literally have balls to use it, lol. My dad used it on his leg for a lump on his calf. Blood root ate through his leg and he needed skin graphs. It was a total mess. My step mom, who has balls, ha ha, had an undiagnosed lump on her breast and she used topical blood root and stuck it out. The tumor oozed out of her chest and she has a deep scar left over. She said it ws extremely painful, but she'd do it again if she had too. I would advise supervision if one chooses to use blood root. How are you doing? Was the mass on your womb benign? I hope that you're doing well and thank you for all your information! Kami bigsky20 Mon, 11 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Kami, Things are so confusing arent they? Gerry suggested that I use chloroquine(its an anti malarial drug) along with salvestrols. The chloroquine seems to help with other chemo type treatments. He also suggested dandelion root to take with salvestrols. there is quite a lot about this on the internet, and he has researched it himself. I found I couldnt take the dandelion root as I had too many reactions to it - but other people on the internet seem fine with it. Salvestrols dont seem to work too well if the cells are not oxygenated. And I believe one needs to stay away from antifungal chemicals.  Have you looked up the info on blood root? or the essaic formula? I took the essaic herbs before salvestrols but they did not seem to do the trick for me.  A friend has been using blood root and salvestrols for skin cancer and she seems to be doing well. Apparently you need to be careful with it. I am trying to eat organic to avoid pesticides etc. Best wishes, Jennette jennette Mon, 11 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Gerry wrote me that salvestrols and tamoxifen do not compete for the same enzym. They work very well together and a lot of woman use this combination and in general the results are good. Using tamoxifen AND salvestrols together is having the best of two worlds, he wrote me. Kami, you wrote that the tumour stabilised when you were on tamoxifen and salvestrols. But could it be that the tumour would have grown back finally (instead of shrinking), when you had continued using only tamoxifen? Stabiling of the tumour isn't bad news at all! If you had continued on salvestrols and tamoxifen it might have gone shrinking after all? It is complicated, isn't it? I continue the combination of salvestrols and tamoxifen. I have great trust in this and it makes me feel very, very safe. I use it to prevent breastcancer recurence, had a breast full of tumours, got a mastectomy, chemotherapy and radiation. After that I found out about salvestrols. Someone told me about salvestrols and I am still thankful for this. Inde43 Mon, 11 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hopefully he'll answer my emails, lol. I forgot to say that the topical cream was part of my treatment the whole way through. I applied it two to three times a day. Kami bigsky20 Mon, 11 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Very true Joan and I love that Jerry is here for us. It's one of the reasons that I started salvestrols in the first place. There are so many cancer cures out there and I've been going through this since 2005. I'm getting beat down with all this research I have to do, lol. There is something out there for each one of us and it might not be the same thing. I'm still searching and for now, I'm hoping it's this diet.  Joan you've been a treasure to me and to everyone else here. You're posts have opened it up to where information isn't one sided. Kami Kami bigsky20 Mon, 11 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hah! I didn't make a link, so don't know what the highlighted words are all about. Sorry for that. Kami, I would consult Gerry about Tamoxifen with Salvestrols. It will give you the benefit of his opinion, so that you can decide for yourself how to proceed. Maybe it's trial and error. Somehow, you're going to reduce that tumor. Gerry might be able to help you. I'll ask my doctor too. Have you used the Salvestrols cream topically on the bump? Please let me know how it goes. Joan AJoan Mon, 11 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Kami, It comes down to doing as much research as you can  and then using your own instincts for how you proceed. You have really done your homework. I'm impressed. As for myself, I'm just at the beginning where the ketogenic diet is concerned. It's particularly difficult when the great scientists give you opposing viewpoints. Who is correct?  And I would have to know what they know in order to make a well documented decision. Does that mean I need a PhD before I can be cured of cancer? All I can go on is innate intelligence and common sense to make the right decisions. Not going to let anyone make those decisions for me. That's what I like about people in this forum. They all "question". We are on the threshold of great change. We are the pioneers as much as the scientists are. It requires calm patience to weed through the piles of data out there.We 're fortunate the Gerry has made himself available to answer questions. It's an exciting time to be alive! Thanks Kami. You are a treasure! J. AJoan Mon, 11 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Joan, You're welcom Joan! It's funny that you're bringing up Sour Sop! I was in the health food store about a month ago and I met a woman who was going through cancer treatment kept on telling me about sour sop and repeating that it's shrinking her tumors and I wasn't too sure about it since she was on chemo. Sometimes chemo shrinks tumors early in treatment. I was listening to her with deaf ears because it just seemed like another pill to take. I've taken graviola before, but I don't think it was sour sop. She also told me about turkey tail at the same time and she even left her number for me at the store. I'm going to look at both of them. As for Salvestrols, I think that they're great, but for some reason, my tumor didn't grow or shrink when taking 6000 to 9000 points a day. Three to four months before starting them, I was tested and my tumor was shrinking at a very good rate with tamoxifen. I started tamoxifen 3 months prior to that test. So, I wasn't taking tamoxifen for a long period of time. When I took tamoxifen and salvestrol together, the tumor stabilized. I thought that I would have to quit tamoxifen and take salvestrols or vice versa. I chose tamoxifen because of the earlier shrinkage. Salvestrol did something, it wasn't just sitting around, but I don't know why my tumor didn't continue to shrink. Something wasn't right and I'm down to the wire before I get surgery and I really need to get some of the prongs of this tumor out of my chest wall or it's going to be a very messy surgery. I gave salvestrol the alloted time to start shrinking my tumor, but it didn't and I think that tamoxifen was in the way. Now, that I'm doing this whole ketogenic thing, I'm thinking about getting off of tamoxifen and taking salvestrols again. I have four bottles left. I'm still in discussion with my mind about it all lol. Joan thanks for everything and thank you for posting what Jerry said. I think that I was a little steamed in there because he didn't site his sources and he didn't put both sides out there. I wasn't going to let someone do that to us, when so much science states that the keto diet is helping so many individuals from epilepsy to alzheimers to cancer and more. In the end though, it is up to all of us to tune in to our bodies and figure it all out for ourselves. I also wish that we didn't have to be our own doctors, but there is so much conflicting evidence out there and we really have to dig deep. Now, if someone is to do the ketogenic diet, I strongly advise him/her to research the heck out of it and to make sure that they know what they're doing. Hugs, Kami   bigsky20 Mon, 11 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thank you Kami. I'll go into the diet thread. Also, interested in reading material from Dr Seyfried. Also very interested in know about sucess or lack of it with Salvestrols. Do you know anything about Sour Sop, the fruit of the graviola tree? Claim is that it cures cancer. ??? Wish they'd all get it together, but I guess that's never the case. Cheers, Joan AJoan Mon, 11 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT I did start a thread on the ketogenic diet in the diet section that we should be posting on instead of Jerry's Salvestrol thread, lol. bigsky20 Mon, 11 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBjnWfT8HbQ Thomas Seyfried, Ph.D http://www.thelivinlowcarbshow.com/shownotes/1172/dr-thomas- Dr. Thomas Seyfried: A Calorie-Restricted Ketogenic Diet Could Be The Cure For Brain Cancer bigsky20 Mon, 11 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thank you Joan and Jerry! I'm going to stay with the Thomas Seyfried Ph.D Professor of Biology at Boston College, Cancer Researcher whose research program focuses on mechanisms by which metabolic therapy manages chronic diseases such as epilepsy, neurodegenerative lipid storage diseases, and cancer. He states that "his approach is based on the idea that compensatory metabolic pathways are capable of modifying the pathogenesis of complex diseases. Global shifts in metabolic environment can neutralize molecular pathology. In the case of cancer, these therapies target and kill tumor cells while enhancing the physiological health of normal cells. The neurochemical and genetic mechanisms of these phenomena are under investigation in novel animal models and include the processes of inflammation, cellular physiology, angiogenesis, and lipid biochemistry." He disputes the study that says ketone's fuel cancer. Jerry isn't on the front lines of this research, at least I don't think he is. Dr. Seyfried is and I'll stand by him for now. Salvestrols didn't work for me, but I wish that they did. I surely can't afford the $300.00's a month for something that didn't work with my tamoxifen. Here is what Dr. Seyfried has to say about the study that says ketones fuel cancer: "I know about this study. The study has serious problems. I wrote a letter to the editor of the journal regarding the flaws in the study. I discussed these flaws with Dr. Richard Veech at the NIH, who concurred with my concerns. Unfortunately, these types of studies will occasionally appear in the literature mainly because the reviews, who know about molecular biology, are unfamiliar with the old literature on energy metabolism." He goes on to write a letter: " I am writing in reference to an article that appeared in the September 1 issue of Cell Cycle by Bonuccelli, et al., entitled: “Ketones and lactate “fuel” tumor growth and metastasis: Evidence that epithelial cancer cells use oxidative mitochondrial metabolism”. The authors have made serious errors in their data interpretation and the conclusions of their article. There is no evidence in the biochemical literature that ketone bodies can be made from pyruvate in fibroblasts. It is common knowledge in biochemistry that ketone bodies are derived from fatty acid beta-oxidation in liver mitochondria. This information is also presented in the cited articles from Veech and co-workers. The authors present evidence showing that the ketone body 3-hydroxy-butyrate does not enhance lung metastasis (Fig. 4A), yet the paper title indicates that ketones fuel tumor growth and metastasis. The paper title and abstract are therefore misleading. Furthermore, no evidence was presented in the paper showing that the MDA-MB-231 cells can survive using only L-lactate or ketone bodies as metabolic fuels. While the authors recommend that it may be unwise to use lactate-containing i.v. solutions in cancer patients, the authors should also recognize that lactate is metabolized to glucose in the liver through the Cori cycle. It is well documented that glucose can stimulate tumor growth. No information was provided on food intake or body weights of the treated and control mice. No information was presented on blood glucose or ketone levels in the tumor bearing mice used in the study. It is difficult to assess the effects of drug injections without this information. Finally, no evidence was presented showing that OxPhos is operational in the MDA-MB-231 tumor cells. Gene expression profiles do not provide the required biochemical and physiological evidence for establishing operational OxPhos in tumor cells. Unfortunately, the author’s provide misinformation. Such information will cause confusion in the field. I am surprised that the reviewers of this paper did not mention these issues in their critique, as some of the evidence and statements presented contradict basic principles of biochemistry as specified in any general textbook on the subject. If further evidence is needed to support my concerns, I would suggest contacting Drs. Richard Veech, Theodore B. VanItallie and Jong Rho. Sincerely, Thomas N. Seyfried, Ph.D." Here is a video of Thomas Seyfied that you might find interesting.   bigsky20 Mon, 11 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT thank you to. I was checking on this diet to fallow. Now I am going to think about it.  cpmty Mon, 11 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Folks, I've been in touch with Gerry regarding the ketogenic diet to get rid of cancer. He doesn't seem to approve of it at all. He asked me to share this message with you. "Hi Joan, You asked me about the ketogenic diet and I have to say I am not a supporter of the ketogenic diet because it can actually make the condition worse feeding tumours protein and fats and this is based on false logic that tumour don't use ketone bodies. In fact tumours thrive on ketone bodies and utilise this energy source when glucose is low. In general tumour thrive on all the essential nutrients such as oils, fats and proteins. However there are rare types of cancer that are deficient in one of the enzymes involved in ketone body utilisation and this accounts for the few cases of responses reported with this diet, but the ketogenic diet is far from a panacea for cancer. Under the critical examination of clinical trials of late stage cancer patients the ketogenic diet was found to cause disease progression in some patients and there were no clinical responses recorded. My dietary advice to cancer patients is more in tune with the Gerson Diet and to have a high intake fruits and vegetables. One thing I agree with in common with the ketogenic diet is to reduce carbohydrate intake and certainly cut out sources of added sugar." AJoan Mon, 11 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thank you Kami. I'm reading through it. AJoan Mon, 11 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Joan, Suprisingly, I'm not hungry, but I eat well. the high healthy fat fills me up. I'm not taking salvestrols at this time, but I plan on starting them again in about 2 months. I started the diet two weeks ago and I've lost 7lbs, but they say that most of that is water weight. I tried to send a 7 day meal plan from the lady who wrote the book The Cantin Ketogenic Diet for Cancer and other Diseases, but this site said that it needs to go through review before they post it. If you privately give me your email, I can email it to you if you want it asap. Joan, the whole concept of the cancer keto diet is to completely cut out sugar for at least 2 to 3 months or however long it takes. I'm part of a keto FACEBOOK site that has posted healings. Do you have a FB account? If so, the site is: Elaine's Alternative tips for cancer type l diabetes and other diseases. It's extremely active and questions are answered about the diet right away and everyone really supports each other. If you don't have a FB, you should open one just to be on that page and keep up with everything. You can eat a decent size salad with say only oil and vinegar as a dressing. I eat about 1/2 an avocado with most meals and a little fermented veggies like saur kraut and kim chee with no msg. You don't have to eat fermented veggies, but you should take a pancreatic digestive enzyme with each meal. The limit of fruits and all is only until you can get rid of the cancer. So far, from what I've seen on testimonies, it's taking about 2 to 3 months. I eat tons of nuts and eggs. Two eggs for breakfast with avocado or a clean sausage (no sugar, preserv etc). Macadamia nuts are great, then walnuts, 1 or 2 brazil nuts. Nuts are usually the snach in between meals. MCT oil is taken with each meal to help keep the body in ketosis. Make sure that any MCT (multi chain trigycerides) is derived from coconut and palm oil only. MCT oil is a must. I take coconut capsules with every meal. I take fermented cod liver oil from green pastures once a day. I take krill oil every other day. The idea is to balance out all the good fats. I also make organic bone broths because they have alot of nutrients and add salt back in the body. The link for the cancer diet would be that FACEBOOK page. Do you have one? I was too permissive with myself for the last two years and I knew I had cancer growing on my scar tissue from my surgery in 2007. When I ate a lot of sugar, within hours my tumor was killing me, literally. I prayed to God to help me give up sugar. I was so addicted that I wanted to cry and it didn't help that my husband is a major sugar freak. Within days, I came across this diet and something told me that this is what you asked for. I oredered 7 books on it, read all that I could on the internet, gathered all my materials and started the diet. I don't crave sugar and I know that I can do this. I want to live and I knew that I was killing myself with what I was eating. Is this the cure for all of us?? I don't know. I think it might work for some of us and may not for others. The only thing that I know is that it makes sense. The body stops burning sugar and starts to burn ketones. Cancer tumors can't use the ketones so the idea is that they wither away and die, DIE, DIIIEEEE, lol. bigsky20 Sat, 09 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Kami, Wow, that sounds very strict. Are you hungry? Are you taking Salvestrols while following the ketogenic diet? Have you lost a lot of weight? Seems like not enough food. I love to eat, but willing to do what I have to do. Does it matter how many leafy greens you eat? Do you limit avocados? You must limit tomatoes. I eat big salads, mostly lettuce, watercress, celery, onions, tomatoes, avocados. Do you eat fish? When you say fermented vegetables, are you referring to pickled beans, or cucumbers...vegetables pickled in apple cider vinegar? Do you eat coleslaw?... None of it made with sugar, of course. Like you, maybe I should cut out fruit except for berries. So far, I have half a grapefruit for breakfast, and a fruit later in the day. Do you eat nuts or eggs? Oh, I have so many questions. Do you happen to have a link to a good blueprint for the ketogenic diet, the one intended to get rid of cancer? I think I've been too permissive with myself. May as well do it right. Is the reason you don't drink coffee because it makes the body acidic? Can your body make the switch from glucose to keytones as an energy source, without being acidic? Thank you for sending me this info. So appreciate it. I feel fine, but have the task of getting rid of cancer. Wish it were in remission, but not yet. I put the ketogenic question before Gerry Potter, but haven't heard anything from him yet. I'll share what he says. It'll be interesting. Hope you are feeling well and that the tumor is shrinking. Appreciate being able to ask questions. Love and perfect health, Joan AJoan Sat, 09 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Joan here is a 7 day meal plan example from the lady who wrote The Cantin Ketogenic Diet for Cancer and other diseases. If you have a FACEBOOK page you should become part of her friend list on "Elaine's Alternative Tips for cancer, type l diabetes" it's a very active page and people are constantly asking questions and posting important research etc. KETOGENIC DIET PLAN FOR NON VEGANS & VEGANS 1. You need to keep a (3 up to 5):1 ketogenic ratio. Eat 3 to 5 time the FAT & Proteins combined = compared to the carbs amount (3 to 5 times more compared to carbs). 2. The protein shake is ONLY the sun warrior posted in the comments because it has no sugar/allergens. 3. 4. FOR VEGANS, use the protein shake portion as you need, for example if you eat 10gr of salad with avocado and have 12 gr of carbs in your meal, 5. you need at leat 2 scoop size of the protein powder (18gr of fat+protein X 2=36 gr) to offset the carbs and have at least a 3:1 ratio. 6. VEGANS & NON VEGANS, also add coconut oil or olive oil at each meal EXAMPLE OF THINGS TO GET TO DO THIS DIET: 1.A good organic multivitamin (like STRESS-X and/or VITAMIN CODE or the one Carole Berlin takes;) 2. potassium citrate; 3. any other recommended supplements in my diet document; 4.COX -2 inhibitors (like MCP/resveratrol/quercetin/green tea/ TURMERIC/) 5. Vitamin C 6. immune boosters (like reishi mushroom/ spirulina/ organic seaweeds like kelp & dulse;) 7.AMINO ACIDS (in wheatgrass powder) 8.SAM -e; 9.Virgin olive oil & organic virgin coconut oil (optional MCT Gold oil); 10. fresh lemons; 11.spices & herbs listed in my diet document; 12. NATURAL protein powder ( by sun warrior & almond flour; keto stix; for the Vegans the raw plant based ) 13.Almond s ( mixed nuts with ketogenic ratio;) 14.protei ns (eggs, white meat, fish, seafood) 15.mayonn aise, 16.onions , garlic, 17. low carbs veggies. GROCERY SHOPPING LIST: AND CARB COUNTS 1. organic eggs - one large chicken egg has 0.6 gm carbs 2. turkey sausage - read package label for carb counts, avoid sausage with sugar http://www.carb-counter.net/sausages-luncheon-meats/1719 3. fresh - 0 carbs avacados - 7.4 gm per 3 oz... http://www.lowcarbyummies.com/carbohydrate-counter-chart.htm 4. .mixed nuts 1 oz is 6.2 grams of carbs for 1 oz total carbs- http://www.fatsecret.com/calories-nutrition/food/mixed-nuts/ 5. cilantro 1/4 cup= 0.15 grams carbs- http://www.carb-counter.net/vegetables/1254 6. chicken -whole breast- O carbs http://www.carb-counter.net/poultry/1462 7. spinach- 1 cup raw, 1.09 gramd carbs: http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/lowcarb-recipe-help-sugges spinach- carb-count-cooked-vs-raw.html 8. seaweed –http://www.carb-counter.net/vegetables/1347 9. salmon- O carbs ( read package label to be sure there is no added sugars) 10. asparagus 1/2 cup cooked- 3.7 grams carbs: http://calorielab.com/foods/asparagus/140 11. sugar free jello- zero carbs 12. coconut oil - O carbs 13. onions 7 plus grams per cup... http://www.livestrong.com/article/364901-what-is-the-carb-co 14. tumeric spice for cooking 15. lemons- to juice ( 3 to 4 to juice)- Lemon (1 medium) 5.4 grams carbs 7 DAYS- ONE WEEK SAMPLE VEGANS DAY I ***** VEGANS: Breakfast: protein shake and almond flour pancake(s). MORNING SNACK: mixed nuts. LUNCH: vegan eggs, protein shake, low carb veggies. AFTERNOON SNACK: seaweeds. Dinner: black olives, vegan mayonnaise with nuts like cashews, low carb veggies, protein shake. Organic cacao butter ****coconut oil throuhout the day DAY 2***** VEGANS Breakfast: protein shake and almond flour muffin(s). MORNING SNACK: black olives. LUNCH: protein shake, low carb veggies. AFTERNOON SNACK: Cinnamon coated almonds . Dinner: protein shake, almond nut flour bread with veggie burger, ****coconut oil throuhout the day DAY 3**** VEGANS Breakfast Protein shake, almond milk (unsweetened 1 cup=1 total carb) Morning Snack Almonds Lunch : salad; asparagus & other low carb veggies, protein shake Afternoon Snack Black olives Dinner: Protein shake(s) with almond milk (unsweetened), veggie kabobs ON A BED OF SPINACH. kABOBS made with mushrooms, green/red peppers, onions. cooked in olive oil (SPRINKLED WITH GARLIC, PARSLEY ) DAY 4***** VEGANS Breakfast: Protein shake(s), avocado, almonds Morning Snack Cinnamon coated almonds Lunch: Proteins shake(s), leafy greens, nuts or seeds Afternoon Snack Mixed nuts Dinner protein shake(s), organic seaweeds, leafy greens, avocado, walnuts ****coconut oil throuhout the day DAY 5************* FOR VEGANS Breakfast DAY 6************* FOR VEGANS DAY 7************* FOR VEGANS It's not a fat and protein ratio. You can eat only fat and proteins all day and there is not need to count carbs if you want. Fat and proteins are essential to cell life but carbs are not and carbs can be derived from fat and proteins. If you eat carbs you need to keep a ratio. You add both the fat & the proteins together as ONE against the carbs. You need to have at least 3 times the [fat+protein] vs [carbs]. Elaine Cantin #5- examples of foods to go: A buy the cans of Brunswick boneless herring fillets seafood snack and I bring a fresh lemon and open the can(s) and put some fresh lemon jiuce and eat that. Can(s) of salmon (with mayo or dressing ). Raw organic seaweeds. Nuts. Raw organic cacao butter. Hard boiled eggs with mayo. Cans of black olives dipped in mayo or olive oil + garlic. Warrio blend raw protein powder from plant based NATURAL (17g proteins, 1.2g fat, 1 gr total carbs)-you bring one of those liquid mixers with a cover and you can add almond milk or water to it. 7 DAYS- ONE WEEK SAMPLE NON VEGANS pt 1 DAY 1 *****NON VEGANS BREAKFAST: fried eggs, natural turkey sausage, avocado slices ( aprox 1/4 to 1/3 cup). MORNING SNACK: mixed nuts. LUNCH: Cilantro chicken & spinash *** see recipe belelow. AFTERNOON SNACK: seaweeds. DINNER: oven baked salmon & asparagus with sugar free Jello for dessert. NOTE: ( be sure to check your food labels to make sure the meats do not have added or hidden sugar, label should say O carbs, O sugar, esp watch the sausage for hidden sugars) ****coconut oil throuhout the day OR olive oil if you are allergic to cocnut DAY 2 *****NON VEGANS Breakfast Spinach and mushroom omelette Morning Snack Black olives Lunch Fried tilapia; cauliflower Afternoon Snack Cinnamon coated almonds Dinner Marinated chicken on bed of spinach ****coconut oil throuhout the day DAY 3*****NON VEGANS Breakfast Scrambled eggs, avocado slices Morning Snack Almonds Lunch Cumin shrimps; asparagus Afternoon Snack Black olives Dinner Turmeric chicken; broccoli ****coconut oil throuhout the day 7 DAYS- ONE WEEK SAMPLE NON VEGANS pt 2 DAY 4*****NON VEGANS Breakfast Poached eggs; fried onions; Natural sausage Morning Snack Cinnamon coated almonds Lunch Turkey meat balls; spinach Afternoon Snack Mixed nuts Dinner Oven baked haddock; kale ****coconut oil throuhout the day DAY 5*****************NON VEGANS Breakfast Spinach and mushroom omelette Morning Snack Black olives Lunch Garlic shrimps; Mixed salad Afternoon Snack Cinnamon coated almonds Dinner Cilantro Chicken; Brussels sprouts ****coconut oil throuhout the day DAY 6*****************NON VEGANS Breakfast Fried Egg(s); Natural Turkey Sausage; onions Morning Snack Mixed nuts Lunch Turmeric chicken; broccoli Afternoon Snack seaweeds Dinner Turkey patties; watercress ****coconut oil throuhout the day DAY 7*****************NON VEGANS Breakfast Scrambled eggs, avocado slices Morning Snack Sardines with fresh lemon juice Lunch Fried salmon; mushrooms Afternoon Snack Cinnamon coated almonds Dinner Chicken Drum sticks; spinach ****coconut oil throuhout the day Recipes CILANTRO CHICKEN Cilantro (also called coriander leaf) is known to help detoxification of metals like mercury and lead Fresh chicken breast (whole or cut in pieces) Fresh Lemon juice (3-4 lemons) Healthy salt & pepper Turmeric/curcumin One onion sliced Fresh Cilantro to taste Sauté all ingredients in a pan with coconut oil until the chicken is well cooked. CARB COUNTS FOR THE DAY BREAKFAST - 3 large eggs ( 0.6 grams of carbs each) 1.8grams fried in olive or coconut oil ( zero carbs) 2 - 6 oz cups of black coffee ( 0.8 grams carbs per cup) 1.6 grams 2 or 3 fresh turkey sausage pattys, fried with zero sugar- O carbs total: 3.4 grams carbs- breakfast MORNING SNACK- 1 0z mixed nuts- 6.2 grams carbs ( daily total now 9.6 grams carbs) LUNCH- 1/2 cup cooked asparagus ( 3.7 grams carbs) salmon unlimited ( zero carbs) fried in olive or coconut oil ( zero carbs) sugar free jello ( zero carbs) total: 3.7 grams of carbs ( daily total now 14.3 grams of carbs) AFTERNNON SNACKS: seaweeds: raw kelp, 1/8 cup- 0.92 grams carbs ( daily total now 15.05 gramds carbs) DINNER: one cup raw spinach (1.09 grams carbs) 1 or 2 chicken breasts ( zero carbs- read labels for added sugars) pan fried in olive or coconut oil ( zero carbs) with 1/4 cup chopped raw onion ( 2 grams carbs) and tumeric and up to 1/4 cup cilantro ( 0.15 carbs) juice of 1 small lemon ( 2 grams carbs) total of 4.15 grams carbs for dinner....... (daily grand total 19.20 grams of carbs) By Elizabeth Mary and Elaine Cantin in Elaine's Alternative tips for Cancer, Type I Diabetes & Other Ailments (Files) · Edit Doc ELAINE'S PREVENTION DIET AFTER MY KETOGENIC DIET (Cancer killing diet) By Elaine Cantin in Elaine's Alternative tips for Cancer, Type I Diabetes & Other Ailments (Files) · Edit Doc ELAINE'S PREVENTION DIET AFTER MY KETOGENIC DIET (cancer killing diet) Here are the important things I focuss on to stay healthy after my Ketogenic diet. I call it my prevention diet. I eat pretty much the same things as when I was on my ketogenic diet but I increase the veggies and I add some fruits (mostly the berries and a few others): NUMBER 1: The diet. I try to let as little toxins in my body as possible and I try not to help any cancer grow in my body so I do NOT eat the following: man made Sugar, red meat, pastas, grain, bread, dairy, soy, GMO, high carbs food. I eat: fresh white meat, fish & seafoods, eggs, olives, fresh veggies, fruits from all berries mostly (for examples: blueberries, strawberries, raspberries, blackberries, cherries), olive oil, coconut oil, flaxseed oil, mixed nuts, almonds, seaweeds, olive oil mayonnaise, mustard, etc. As little processed foods as possible. I cook in extra virgin olive oil & coconut oil. As little processed food as possible. I drink coconut & almond milk. I use the following 2 brands of protein powders that are low sugar, dairy/soy/wheat free: Sun Warrior, Raw Protein, Plant-Based, Warrior Blend, Natural & Life Time, Life's Basics, Plant Protein, Unsweetened, Vanilla Flavor. NUMBER 2: The herbs & Spices that are anti cancer and boost the immune system that I use to cook. For examples I use: Turmeric/curcumin, rosemary, garlic, paprika, cayenne pepper, coriander/cilantro, thyme, fennel seed, saffron, cumin, basil, cardamon, parsley, black pepper, Himalayan sea salt, fresh lemon. NUMBE 3: Balancing the hormones to promote the anticarcinogenic hormones. At least three servings a week of cruciferous/brassica veggies (like broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, Bok Choy, Brussels sprouts, etc...) Or DIM supplement, Sam-e supplement, B12 vitamin, folic acid, iodine, probiotics, green veggies, maca powder, DHEA on and off, zinc. NUMBER 4: Vitamins/supplements/ cox-2 inhibitors. Here are some examples: multi vitamins (stress-X & vitamin code), resveratrol, MCP (modified citrus pectin, Pectasol brand by Dr. Eliaz), melatonin, chlorella, spirulina, astragalus, reishi mushrooms, green tea, kelp, turmeric, apple cider vinegar, aloe vera (Lily of the desert is low in sugar), ESSIAC, NAC, Quercetin, Astaxanthin. NUMBER 5: Essential Amino acids and making body more alkaline. Some examples: Almonds, eggs, white meat & salmon, WHEAT GRASS, lemon. You can also buy online the amino care products from Dr. Burzynski. NUMBER 6: Drinking: green tea (with mint or lemon or reishi), boiled water with lemon, use a water filter to remove at least chlorine & heavy metals like the PUR filter. If you can spend more, you can also remove fluoride. Alkaline water using ion pods or other means. NUMBER 7: Good Sleep & avoiding stress. Sleep in a very dark room and use melatonin supplements. Also try to do some exercise. Avoid stress and find ways to relax you like music, candles that smell good, etc... And lastly...if you are triple negative...triple negative often have a gene mutation issue BRCA1 that can be corrected with natural selenium by eating one Brazil nut three times per day along with a teaspoon of rosehips. I think this summarizes it bigsky20 Fri, 08 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT ok, lol, I sent the wrong link. Where is my head today? Here is the right one.http://markmaunder.com/2012/07/22/the-basic-ketogenic-diet/   bigsky20 Fri, 08 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT oops, I forgot to give you the site Joan.http://www.netriceuticals.com/ bigsky20 Fri, 08 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT I'm sorry to hear about your son. I bought my salvestrol fromhttp://www.netriceuticals.com/ for $105.00. You have to start an account with them, but it's free. bigsky20 Fri, 08 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 03, 2013 10:46 PM AJoan wrote: Hey Kami, Healthy fats...yes. Starting the ketogenic diet today, though it is very close to what I have been doing right along. Been researching low GI foods. I see that carrots are high on the glycemic index scale. Have to buy a rabbit now 'cause I just bought a big bag of carrots. Citrus fruits are low. Grapefruits are low, great! The average apple scores 38, though it's high in pectin.  Love baked apples using just cinnamon, nutmeg and butter. Do you think that would be okay? Pears are low, as are cherries. Fresh figs are low. That's a surprise. Also am wondering about lima beans, which are anti cancer. Butterbeans average 31 GI. Do you eat any grains? My doctor wants me to stay away from them, even millet and quinoa. Love vegetables, so that's no problem. Don't eat meat, but do eat fish. It's all quite doable. I don't like tamoxifen. Are you feeling well? Love and good wishes, Joan Hi Joan, I'm so sorry, I just saw this message today. I don't know how I missed it. I'm doing a very strict Ketogenic Diet for cancer and it involves no sugar other than maybe a few berries, but I have a tumor that I'm trying to shrink or get rid of. If your in remission, you can do the regular keto diet, but I would eat very little fruit to keep insulin levels low. I read that there's a fine line being in and out of the ketogenic state. If you're right on the border, the body could go after lean body mass. You want it to go after fat and use the ketones to burn that fat. I haven't really looked at the more modified keto diet which is the classic keto diet compared to the cancer one. My diet consists of a palm size serving of meat with each meal, 1/4 cup avocado or salad or fermented veggies or brussel sprouts etc. I take MCT oil 3x's a day to help keep my body in ketosis. I take fermented cod liver oil from green pastures. I cut out coffee and stevia and swetched to organic green tea. I also take coconut oil supplements, curcumin, whole food raw multi from Garden of Life and other things. I don't eat any grains and to tell you the truth, I'm not missing them one bit. My tummy used to always feel bloated after eating them. I also don't eat any dairy because dairy can turn into sugar. I'm only doing this strict diet for no more than 6 months or so. I'm feeling great today! I did have the keto flu for a bit, but I read that I need more salt etc. My cancer is still considered early and I have some time to play and figure it out, so I'm not feeling down. If you want to do a more strict diet, let me know, if not, here is a good site that lays out the basic diet, but it still says to stay away from sugar. I know it's hard, but once you give up grains, giving up sugar isn't so hard. I hope this info helps! Please let me know if you have any more questions. Also, it it is said that once you go gang busters on this diet, don't mess up because for some reason it takes us back to day one. I don't quite understand that, but it's what is written. Drink a ton of water, some with a squeeze of lemon to keep your body alkaline. I'm just rambling now. Hope you have a great weekend and btw, how are you feeling? Hugs, Kami bigsky20 Fri, 08 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT How much are you paying now and where are you located? mastergreener Fri, 08 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT My son is taking Salvestrol Platinum for metastatic colorectal cancer. He has had radiotherapy and chemo. I have been buying it from a New Zealand website but would love to know how I can get it at a cheaper price. kimcooney Fri, 08 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hey Kami, Healthy fats...yes. Starting the ketogenic diet today, though it is very close to what I have been doing right along. Been researching low GI foods. I see that carrots are high on the glycemic index scale. Have to buy a rabbit now 'cause I just bought a big bag of carrots. Citrus fruits are low. Grapefruits are low, great! The average apple scores 38, though it's high in pectin.  Love baked apples using just cinnamon, nutmeg and butter. Do you think that would be okay? Pears are low, as are cherries. Fresh figs are low. That's a surprise. Also am wondering about lima beans, which are anti cancer. Butterbeans average 31 GI. Do you eat any grains? My doctor wants me to stay away from them, even millet and quinoa. Love vegetables, so that's no problem. Don't eat meat, but do eat fish. It's all quite doable. I don't like tamoxifen. Are you feeling well? Love and good wishes, Joan AJoan Sun, 03 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Gerry wrote me that the combination of salvestrols and tamoxifen is a very safe and well tolerated combination. Many woman use this combination and in general the results are good. He also wrote me that salvestrols and tamoxifen are not competing for the same enzym. I will continue the combination of salvestrols and tamoxifen. It makes me feel very safe. Big hug for all you brave woman!! Inde43 Sun, 03 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Here is a site that explains it and if you email them, maybe they can tell you who does it in your area. Most of the clinics are in America and you have to make sure that you go to a qualified clinic and that they have a good doctor reading the results. http://www.breastthermography.com/  They compiled a list here for Americahttp://www.breastthermography.com/find-a-center.htm This list includes Canada and Francehttp://www.iact-org.org/links.html   bigsky20 Sun, 03 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Where can you get a THERMOGRAM and what is it? I never heard of that. Thanks cpmty Sun, 03 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT You're welcome Jennette. Inde is asking Jerry for us. I'm so glad that you still saw shrinkage with both tamoxifen and salvestrol. I'm going to get off tamoxifen if this diet seems to help and then I'm going to start back up on salvestrols. It just goes to show that our bodies react different and we have to trust our instinct and do what we feel is best for our own bodies. You should get the thermogram, I've been wanting to do that for years and I really wish that I had done that in the first place. God bless you and I'll be praying for your healing! bigsky20 Sun, 03 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Dear Cammie, I so appreciate your message, Thank you for recommending the ketogenic diet - I will certainly look it up. I dont know about the salvestrols and tamoxifen competing - did you ask Gerry? I found that when I went on the salvestrols after being on the tamoxifen the shrinkage continued. But it is difficult when the scans are a way apart. Thinking of trying to get a thermograph done which would show areas of heat - which can mean cancer activity - ie cancer growth in that area. Might show if other area are growing as opposed to shrinking. Best wishes, Jennette jennette Sun, 03 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT That's great! Thank you! I'm going to look at all of them this morning. Cheers! Joan AJoan Sun, 03 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Here are some more links that I sent out to my family: Starving cancer on CBNhttp://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/healthscience/2012/december/st Elaine Cantin wrote a book about curing her cancer with the ketogenic diet. Here is her video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNLtVIfsEiY About the ketogenic Diethttp://www.reddit.com/r/keto/wiki/faq#wiki_how_do_i_star about ketohttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1aiHSPoto_YqsNTDvL-g6 autophagy happens during ketosis. Science articlehttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3171969/ explains autophagy betterhttp://www.cavemandoctor.com/2012/04/06/autophagy-turn http://criticalmas.com/2011/10/intermittent-fasting-the-no-h fasting with oil and fermented vegetables Alzheimershttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2258665/ Keto stops seizures. Science Dailyhttp://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/11/0511142209 Dr. Thiele talking about seizures but states that it could work on other diseaseshttp://vimeo.com/channels/418298/55453574 bigsky20 Sat, 02 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hello here is the link:http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,70723 I have some videos at the very bottom. My diet consists of virgin coconut oil, krill oil, cod liver oil, fish, chicken thighs, bone broths, brussel sprouts, avocado, fermented veggies etc. I follow the Cantin Ketogenic Diet for cancer and she eliminated almost all sugar and all dairy. I did the same just to be on the safe side. I'm doing a very strict diet for 3 months straight and then I'm going to modify it some. The whold idea is to eat more healthy fats than protein and carbs. Let me know if you have any more questions. I'll see if I can find the answers for you. I love researching and I have time to help you if you need it. I didn't have anyone helping me out when I first got cancer and I wish that I did. It's so time consuming and confusing and when first diagnosed, very stressful. Kami bigsky20 Sat, 02 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT I can't find the ketogenic diet. where is it or the link? thank you. also I can't find the previous comment about this diet. (I am vey new in computer stuff and have problems finding things). cpmty Sat, 02 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Awe, thanks Joan! I plan on getting off tamoxifen soon too. I've been taking it for almost a year now. I'm loving this whole ketogenic thing. I went through the "keto flu" for about a week and now I'm feeling awake. I really do thing my poor little body was starving for some healthy fats. I was a sugar addict a week ago and now I don't crave it a bit. I think it's awesome that your doctor wants you on it! You have a good doc, obviously. I wish you all the best! Kami bigsky20 Sat, 02 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT I forgot to say that if you do the keto diet, maybe the tamoxifen and salvestrols won't matter at all. That is how I think about it for tamoxifen now. I'm so ready to get off of it. bigsky20 Sat, 02 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hello Indy, I don't think my body became immune to tamoxifen because I had only been taking it 3 months prior to tamoxifen. I do think your points are valid and I wish that I had all the answers. There is something about this ketogenic diet and I'm so happy that I stumpled upon it. After one gets all the food necessary for it, it is so easy to do. Can you send me your email and I'll send you some links that I have for it. The more that I dig, the more it makes complete sense. It's all about clean healthy high fats, very little low glycemic carbs like brussel sprouts and and very little protein. Bone broths are great to drink etc. Lots of coconut oil, MCT oil and fish oils and a few supplements. The cancer ketogenic diet cuts out almost all fruits with the exception of a few berries a day. If you go to the message board and click on diets, I just posted a seriously long page about the ketogenic diet and diseases. Hugs, Cammie bigsky20 Sat, 02 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Cammie, You wrote that the tumour got stable after the use of salvestrols and tamoxifen together. I wonder what would have happened if you hadn't used any salvestrols and continued the use of only tamoxifen. Could it be that the tumour might have grown back again, because at some point cancer cells will get immune for tamoxifen? And could it be that the use of salvestrols and tamoxifen together kept the tumour stable, instead of growing back again? And I also wonder what should have happened if you had continued the use of salvestrols and tamoxifen together for a much longer time? Because sometimes it takes a while for salvestrols to work. Could it be the tumour would be shrinking finally? I am using salvestrols and tamoxifen to prevent breastcancer reoccurence. I am very interested in the Ketogenic Diet! I will watch the youtube film. Do you have any more information about this diet? I wonder how Jennette is doing. So Jennette, if you read this, how are you doing? Thanks Cammie, all the best! Best regards, Inde (The Netherlands) Inde43 Sat, 02 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Cammie, You wrote that the tumour got stable after the use of salvestrols and tamoxifen together. I wonder what would have happened if you hadn't used any salvestrols and continued the use of only tamoxifen. Could it be that the tumour might have grown back again, because at some point cancer cells will get immune for tamoxifen? And could it be that the use of salvestrols and tamoxifen together kept the tumour stable, instead of growing back again? And I also wonder what should have happened if you had continued the use of salvestrols and tamoxifen together for a much longer time? Because sometimes it takes a while for salvestrols to work. Could it be the tumour would be shrinking finally? I am using salvestrols and tamoxifen to prevent breastcancer reoccurence. I am very interested in the Ketogenic Diet! I will watch the youtube film. Do you have any more information about this diet? I wonder how Jennette is doing. So Jennette, if you read this, how are you doing? Thanks Cammie, all the best! Best regards, Inde (The Netherlands) Inde43 Sat, 02 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT That's good information Cammy. My doctor has encouraged me to be on a ketogenic diet, and I'm already on a modified one. Don't eat sugar or wheat products, but do eat some grains. The doctor prefers that I don't eat grains at all, or just once in a while. My challenge is that I don't eat meat. Haven't eaten it for years. The video you linked here explains the ketogenic diet pretty well. I couldn't understand how ketosis could benefit a cancer patient, but I understand it better now. As for tamoxifen, no, I don't take it. Have no interest in drugs. However, I did take it 25 years ago when I first had breast cancer. Found it interesting that Gerry Potter likes it in combo with salvestrols. Gerry told me that PET scans are not dangerous. ??? I don't like radiation or the sugar you have to drink in order to do the scan. His take was most interesting. At any rate, I want to thank you. Appreciate as much information as you care to share. I'll do the same. God bless. Joan AJoan Sat, 02 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT I'm sure it's confusing. I asked Jerry as well and he did say that it works very well together, but it didn't in my case. I luckily have a tumor that is being measured as I try my protocols. I'm being seen at MD Anderson Cancer Center and they're pretty precise. I don't know what to say other than both the tamoxifen and salvestrol canceled themselves out. But, then there is Jennette, who was taking salvestrols and tamoxifen and now she says that she might have a new tumor caused by the tamoxifen. So, the tamoxifen was still active in her body. It's all very confusing, I don't know what to think. I stopped taking my salvestrols for now, but I started the Ketogenic Diet for Cancer and I'll be tested again in a couple of months to see if stopping tamoxifen and putting my body into ketosis works. Once I stop taking tamoxifen, I will surely take salvestrols. Here is a link to the diet that I'm doing:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNLtVIfsEiY bigsky20 Sat, 02 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Cammie, Dr Gerry Potter wrote me that tamoxifen and salvestrol work very well together! So your message confuses me! Inde43 Sat, 02 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Jennette, I was taking tamoxifen for 3 months, had a checkup, and the tumor was shrinking. I then started Salvestrols 6000 pts to 9000 pts. daily along with tamoxifen for the next four months and the tumor became stable. My doctor suspects that the tamoxifen and salvestrol were competing for the same enzymes in the liver. I've stopped taking salvestrols for now, but I believe that they'll work in place of tamoxifen. Obviously, they were doing something! I also wanted to let you know that I'm doing the ketogenic diet for cancer and I really think that it might work for some of us. It can't hurt to give it a try! Here is a video a link from a woman who cured her cancer and wrote a book:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNLtVIfsEiY Watch this too:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxhNMzIzs3M This diet has been used for years by the medical community to cure seizures in children. There is so much more that I can send you, just let me know if you or if anyone else is interested in it for that matter. I really hope you beat this Jennette! Love, Cammie   bigsky20 Sat, 02 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thank you. Have already checked it out. Looks very good. AJoan Sat, 02 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Try salvestrolinfo.blogspot.com . Very informative site that you can ask questions by commenting. Also Facebook by private message. I wish you well. Debcnz DebCNZ Sat, 02 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT Do you know who is preventing Gerry Potter from participating in the forum? Who is feeling that threatened? I think it's digusting and also suspicious. People writing in this forum are in a serious condition, physically and emotionally, and/or they have family with cancer. Gerry has been generously answering questions with honesty, without making unsubstantiated claims. FYI, I learned this from him: If you have stage 4 cancer, then you need to take 12,000 points of salvestrols per day until you are cancer free. Then you can go on maintenance.  Don't take B17 while treating with salvestrols because it diminishes the effectiveness of salvestrols.  I'm doing it Gerry's way and will keep you posted on my progress, plus I'll share anything I learn along the way. To yours and my health! AJoan Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT think Gerry potter can't enter this foro (that is what someone told me) but other people can help you, I think. Read meassages in this foroi who also es taking the same medication. Good luck. Reserach in the internet for other possible alternatives and be careful to whom you listen, not everyone is telling the truth. some people besides the treatment are taking vitm. B17 (appricot seeds also apple, almonds) other people are taking hemp oil (it seems in some areas in US is legal, not in others)And also there are other treaments... In my opinion it is better if you follow more than one just to be sure. There are many good people who will try to help you... others will try to sell something that doesn't work. check youtube. GOOD LUCK AND GOD BLESS YOU. ABOVE ALL Do Not get depress, try to forget any problems BE HAPPY, be as happy as you can,NO STRESS, don't watch violent or sad tv movies programs,... relax as much as possible. change your diet... stop eating red meats,(or no meats)  no milk, nothing with sugar, only organic  low sugar fruits (no juices) like berries, apples, CANCER FEEDS IN SUGAR, ACID BODY, LOW OXIGEN... so, alcalineze foods and water 9(google for info.) exercise, go to sauna (infrared better) hot baths to detox so you get oxigen in your body and heat (cancer do not like oxigen, heat, alcaline...etc).get  masages. there are several clinics that help you to treat and fight cancer, California, Mejico, and Florida etc.. Hippocrates health institute  in Fla.its beautiful (paradise) and they help you and explain many things you need to know. they follow the wheatgrass  juicing (it gives you energy and help your immune system.) other health clinics  follow the coffee enemas, and other kinds of juicing like barley etc.  cpmty Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:00:00 GMT My mum has ec stage iv just taking the salvestrols now how di your hub do on them xxx Kazzamama Thu, 28 Feb 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry.... ive just joined and havnt figured out how to ask questions yet.   I was diagnosed with grade 2 stage 2 lobular breast cancer in Noember.  Had skinsparing mastectomy in January after which they found 13/13 nodes positive and infiltrations to second lot.   so then CT scan was clear and now bone scan has shown two mestastes one on pelvis and one bottom of spine..... so now told im Stage IV.   am shattered.  started taking salvestral platinum a few days ago.   two a day .  oncologist want tostart me on tamoxofen asap and then radiotherapy on breast and underarm area.  strangely am fully recovered from op six weeks ago and feel absolutely great.   no pains aches or extra tiredness.   what do you think.   would value your opinion ......Pauline pradapee Thu, 28 Feb 2013 00:00:00 GMT Just found this blog, and have been reading it all morning. Excellent information. Who stopped Gerry Potter from participating? That's disappointing. I was diagnosed with a recurrence of breast cancer, after 25 years, living under the assumption that I was cancer free. Have been following an alternative route. My doctor started me on salvestrols three weeks ago. Until then, I had been receiving laetrile and C IVs, plus a host of supplements. The cancer recurrence was discovered when a lump showed up on my shoulder. Pet scan revealed some cancer in my collar bone, and a spot on my lung, so technically, I am stage 4. I feel fine though. I look very healthy. Must be a slow growing cancer. At any rate, I will kick the you know what out of this thing. Excited to learn about Salvestrols. Have done a huge amount of research, and am convinced that respecting Mother Nature is the ultimate cure for all cancers. Would love to be able to correspond with Gerry Potter. Is there another way? Want to thank whoever set up this blog. All of your questions and Gerry's responses have helped me a lot. Thank you. AJoan Wed, 27 Feb 2013 00:00:00 GMT Sorry to say this but US is very similar. I had the same problem in  A VERY FAMOUS AND ONE OF THE BEST hostpiatls in US. the Dr. desided (without consulting me or give me different choices ) refused talke to me before surgery etc etc..... because he wanted to do instead of two surgeries 5 or 6...$$$$$) And many many many other things that I felt I was in a/the thrid world country. And it had anything to do with the Hospital but with the dr. and his assistant and his junior (med.student)) resident and the nurse who give me injections without anyone approval (the dr. didn't know anything). I got so traumatized that I didn't comback and didn't go to another dr. after that. and you read the bood 'doctors screwups' www.peoplespharmacy.com you will see how many many many mistakes are done. And Thank God still there are good doctors there!!! cpmty Tue, 26 Feb 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Feb 25, 2013 3:28 PM aantony wrote:  HiMacdon   What stage was her cancer?   ThanksHi aantony,   We actually don’t know. When she went back to hospital for the post-op check up, the specialist who operated did not see her, but some junior intern. She asked them what stage and they replied, “I don’t know”. I’m not kidding! We live inMelbourneAustraliaand I considerAustraliato be backward in many aspects, including medicine. All we know is that she was told is was slow growing and she probably had it for 5 years and she could have left it for another 5 years before it blocked her passage.   They initially said it was 7cm long, but after the operation they seemed to say it was 3-4cm long. I say seemed to say, because I just can’t even be sure how big it really was. So don’t take this definitively as salvestrols almost halving the size of a 7cm tumour in 5 weeks. The only definite we have is that “it was smaller than we thought”. Macdon Mon, 25 Feb 2013 00:00:00 GMT thank you so much. I am new here do I didn' t know. It s too bad. I guess someone got upset or something, and If he can't give any more advise, we all lose.  cpmty Mon, 25 Feb 2013 00:00:00 GMT On feb 25, 2013 12:59 cpmty wrote: He is not allowed to write here? why? Who is controling this as long is nothing ilegal or x-rated or something like that???and a question what exactly is SALVESTROL and where can you get it? I've been reading this forum the last few weeks and about salvestrol ... no one said or explained exactly what it is. Hi Cpmty, Gerry wrote the following, on may 11th last year: "Dear all, I have been prevented from any further communication on this website and so I am unable to provide answers to any further questions. I hope that I have provided you with helpful advice about salvestrols and other natural cancer therapies, and that the people with cancer make a good recovery. I believe that recovery from cancer is only truely possible by working with the human body by natural means. I would like to thank John for starting this discussion on "Salvestrols at Work" which has led to some useful discussions on Salvestrol Therapy which will help people considering this option." Inde43 Mon, 25 Feb 2013 00:00:00 GMT  HiMacdon   What stage was her cancer?   Thanks aantony Mon, 25 Feb 2013 00:00:00 GMT I’d like to share my story FWIW.   On Sept 2012 my mother had a colonoscopy and they discovered a low grade tumour in her colon. The doctor said it was probably there for 5 or so years.   So I put her on about 4-6 salvestrols per day as well as some multivitamins and mushroom extracts for immunity and tumeric. She was on these for 5 weeks until surgery for a bowel resection.   After she had the surgery, the doctor said “it was smaller than we thought”.   So that’s it. It’s not much and it’s only anecdotal, but every bit of information helps. I’d like to think the salvestrols shrunk the tumour. She is on 4 per day now and we’re trying to be positive, although she’s a bit of a depressive person. Macdon Mon, 25 Feb 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hello from Canada cpmty When my doctor recommended salvestrols to me I did quite a bit of research and found the following very informative and confidence building.   Hope these links are helpful to you too. http://www.salvestrol.ca/SalvestrolInfoHCP.asp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bikETTmq7Ms http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds5HuuYhJ_o Best regards Sheila Shemay Mon, 25 Feb 2013 00:00:00 GMT He is not allowed to write here? why? Who is controling this as long is nothing ilegal or x-rated or something like that???and a question what exactly is SALVESTROL and where can you get it? I've been reading this forum the last few weeks and about salvestrol ... no one said or explained exactly what it is.  cpmty Mon, 25 Feb 2013 00:00:00 GMT I wonder why Gerry isn't allowed to write here anymore! I thought we were living in a free world..... I am very thankful for the discovery of salvestrols. Using salvestrol platinum makes me feel so safe. I use it to prevent reoccurence of breastcancer. Best regards, Inde (the Netherlands) Inde43 Sun, 24 Feb 2013 00:00:00 GMT GERRY, Why don't you try  Spain? they don't have sooo manyyy 'but's and legal if's:"  like in UK. If it works, they will help you evern if they don't have lots of $$$ to give you for the investigation but they probably won't interfier or bather you. And they are not yet spiled by the big pharma Compnays. cpmty Fri, 22 Feb 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 09, 2012 11:47 PM gerrypotter wrote: We never had the chance to look at leukaemias properly because all my research grants were cut ! Shortly after discovering salvestrols all my grants from the main UK charities and government were axed which prevented me from doing any further work within the UK. All the current research is carried on outside the UK. When I worked on developing new pharmaceutical products that could be protected by patents I was the star of the show in cancer drug discovery. As soon as I found natural compounds which were actually better than anything the pharmaceutical industry has to offer, the situation changed drastically. I tried to get CRUK and EPSRC interested in salvestrols but they said they were not interested because there is no patent. These are natural compounds already known to the wider scientific world that cannot be patented for cancer therapy. Therefore they were not interested in them since the pharmaceutical indutry would not develop them. The reason that they would not develop them would be that they would have to spend millions of bucks on clinical trials, only to see a copycat version appear more cheaply. So they could not charge an inflated price for them as they do for patented medicine, and they would not be profitable enough without patent protection. So I can see where they are coming from. But the next bit got really scarey. In 2004, shortly after salvestrols were launched on the market, two representatives from the UK national cancer charity CRUK came to see me and threatened me !!! They said "Gerry, take this salvestrol product off the market or we will ruin your reputation as a scientist" This is the absolute truth. I was gobsmacked to say the least and I muttered something about "Let me worry about my reputation and you should worry about yours". A month later 5 police officers came to my house. I opened the door and they forced their way in pushing me up against the wall like a criminal. Two of them had riot helmets on ! They handcuffed me and bundled me into the back of a police van and kept me in a cell for 8 hours. They then transferred me to a secure unit of a psychiatric ward in a mental hospital, where they overpowered me stripped off my clothes and forcibly injected me with chlozopine! I have only recently been released so I have to watch what I say so that nobodys reputation gets tarnished ! Dont be surprised if I cant reply anymore since most of my replies are censored anyway so you probably will never read this. So there is a bitter side to salvestrols, but not what you expected to hear. I am still under close observation and have to return for monthly depo injections to keep me "under control" from saying too much, whoops.Hi Gerry, Just came across your fascinating blog and I'm currently taking high dose Platinum for PCa to bone metestasis. But what I'm writing about now is your shocking, criminal treatment by the UK authorities. What this actually demonstrates is that the all purvasive power of the drug cartels has spread form the US already, where they run a criminal enterprise far worse than the Mafia ever did. At least the Mafia were criminals happy to be identified as such. The drug cartels however, hide behind their simbiotic, corrupt, relationship with the FDA. What has happened to you is par for the course for any medical practioner or researcher who steps out of line and actually tries to HEAL people with a new product. And the FDA will not approve any product (drug) that does not keep people sick and totally dependant on drugs. The drug cartels spend billions of dollars protecting their profits, even to the point of corruptly paying members of Congress, to vote for their specific interests regardless of the public harm that follows. Good luck to you Gerry Oysterman Fri, 22 Feb 2013 00:00:00 GMT I have heard that resveratrol interfers with salvestrols and that high does of resveratrol makes cancer grow.  Can anyone show me this study.  My husband's natropath has him on high doeses of resveratrol and he only perscribes things that have studies backing them.   Kerry kerdes Thu, 21 Feb 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thank you so much for your informative reply. I am 50, 50 on Salvestrols. I will report back too when my boyfriend has a scan in April blueskies12 Fri, 15 Feb 2013 00:00:00 GMT THANK YOU sooo much. good info. and it helped. cpmty Fri, 15 Feb 2013 00:00:00 GMT Well folks as promised I've come back to update on the progress, Good OR Bad. For those of you that have not read my previous threads my mam was diagnosed with stage 4 cervical cancer mets to a total of 5 masses NOT in organs last Aug 2012. Long story but she had a hysterectomy 6 years ago and everything was taken out due to pre-cancerous cells and was given the all clear. She started chemo in Sep receiving 3 rounds of Carbo & Taxol. After the 3rd round they could not continue as her platelettes were too low. She had her last CT scan in Nov and it showed that 4 of the 5 tumours were no longer visible. The 5th one went from 6cm or so down to 2cm. When we got the results early Nov she was basically told go home and recover and they would scan again in Feb. Just before the scan I started my mam on Salvestols 12000pts / day. She has also been taking a number of things: 4Life: Transfer Factor Plus (pre Nov scan - Sep) Essiac Tea Vitamin supplements Juicing carrots/wheatgrass CoQ10, garlic etc, eating healthy as much as possible. The main focus of the protocol I would have put on the Salvestrols personally. We got the results yesterday from her latest scan. Out of the 5 tumour masses 2 can be seen (last scan only 1 could be seen). The last one visible from the last scan has reduced in size from 2cm to just 1cm (good news!). The mass in her hip could not be seen last time but has now grown by half a cm (not so much good news!). From what i can see whatever we are doing is improving her situation. There was a small increase in one of the masses but a fairly substantial decrease in the other. Also the other masses have not started to grow back which is good news. The way we are taking this news is that IF she wasn't taking Salvestrol and the rest then the results may very well been much worse. We believe that it is helping. 1cm decrease in a tumour mass without receiving chemo is very substantial. Bottomline, we don't really know if it is the Salvestrol, something else she is taking or a combination of them all working in synergy BUT it may very well be Salvestrol is the key to it all. It brings hope and hope is what we all need. There you have it. Take it however you like but they are the experiences we've had good or bad. Karl  mastergreener Fri, 15 Feb 2013 00:00:00 GMT Dear Jojok, I hope the salvestrol platinum will help your daugther! What dose does she get? I believe 6000 - 12000 points a day is neccesairy when someone is facing cancer? Make sure she gets enough! I wish your daugther all the best!! Best regards, Inde (the Netherlands) Inde43 Wed, 13 Feb 2013 00:00:00 GMT After having been diagnosed with esophogeal cancer, my daughter, age 33, was died a number of times after her 2nd chemo (low dosage supposedly) chemo treatment. After much hospitalization, it was discovered that she has Fanconi's Anemia, and that chemo and radiation could and together - would kill her. We are turning to holistic treatments and she has just started taking Salvestrol Platinum. Thank you for your story; I pray it helps her. She can barely swallow and has recently had a feeding tube put in, which is still healing after 6 weeks, due to the Fanconi's Anemia complications. jojok Wed, 13 Feb 2013 00:00:00 GMT Just want to say, I've had a small lump in my mouth for a few years that I didn't take much notice of.  It's survived antibiotics and it's been around for too long to be anything other than a tumour.  I was randomly annoyed at hearing all these adverts about how people still haven't managed to cure cancer and decided to research alternative ways that are known to beat cancer so I was prepared for the possibility of myself or people I know getting it and Salvestrol looked the most promising.  I love to experiment with things on myself because I have celiac disease (similar to an allergy to gluten/wheat) and have experimented with diet things for a long time as a result.  I wanted to take it not only as a preventative, but also to experiment to see what effect it had on my moles and on this lump in my mouth which I was assuming must be a tumour.I took a Salvestrol supplement and 7 hours later, it felt like it had shrunk and flattened a lot.  On the second day, upon taking another Salvestrol supplement, it's shrunk even more in just an hour or two and doesn't feel like it extends as far up my gum.  The only surefire way I will be certain this has worked is when there is nothing there at all.  I'll post again if/when this is the case, because the more people post about their positive outcomes from Salvestrol the better!This is really amazing and everyone really should stop seeing this as a potential cancer drug and more like a Vitamin that we require! Kylet Mon, 11 Feb 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Everyone, Have been following this topic for months after my mother-on-law was diagnosed with lung cancer (non small cell adenocarcinomer). I haven't posted anything until now, but wanted to add to the discussion once I had some results to share. A bit of background... my mother in law was diagnosed mid December, and we immediately started her on Salvestrol Platinum 6000 pts/day. The reason I knew about them is that a friend of mine had met Gerry Potter personally years ago and then told me the story of salvestrols etc, so I had a level of trust in their authenticity from the outset. She's also been doing chemotherapy in that time, plus she's on a regime of other supplements, eating organic produce, juicing at least once a day, eating the Budwig cottage cheese concoction once or twice a day, and also taking Turkey Tail mushroom extracts (PSP). For info, these can be bought online. From my research it seems that either Mushroom Science or Oriveda are the way to go (google them). Given the complex regime she's on, it's impossible to say exactly what it working, but I can report that in less than 2 months her tumor has shrunk between 30 - 50% (as evidenced by PET scan). There has also been no metastisis. Definitely no smoking gun here, but something is working and we won't be stopping the Salvestrols! I'll post again in another 6 weeks after her next PET scan. Kind regards,  S Saiman Mon, 11 Feb 2013 00:00:00 GMT HI GERRY, what is GANODERIC ACID? and where can I get it?  and, I just got 3 mushrooms supplem. in the store and I am wondering if these (siitaki, Reishi and maitake) are ok and have the potency for the immune system and protection for ca. or... it is better to get the three separte? And where can i get Turkey Tail mushroom (I never heard of it) in the store?  thank you so much. cpmt cpmty Mon, 04 Feb 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thank you for sharing the response, Swift! Inde43 Mon, 04 Feb 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi everyone, this is Gerry Potter's response to my query, in quotes: "Hi Swift, heres my answer to your question about combining medicinal mushrooms with salvestrols: Its completely safe to combine medicinal mushrooms with salvestrols, but there is not any evidence yet to suggest that they help with their efficacy, although it is possible that they could increase the overall anticancer effect. Medicinal mushrooms such as Reishi and Turkey Tail mushroom contain fungal metabolites that are toxic to cancer cells such as Ganoderic acid which inhibits DNA topoisomerase and works in the same way as the clinically used anticancer drugs Topotecan and Irinotecan. Clinical research shows that medicinal mushrooms such as Reishi can boost the effects of chemotherapy and help reduce side effects, but these particular studies also showed that they had little effect when used alone." And that's the end of his answer to my query. Regards, Swift swift Sat, 02 Feb 2013 00:00:00 GMT Thanks for the suggestion Indie43, I have already sent Gerry Potter a private message concerning the possibility of combining medicinal mushrooms and Salvestrols. I'll wait for him to reply and will share his answer here for everyone to read.. Regards, Swift swift Thu, 31 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT Dear Swift, You can ask Gerry Potter yourself by sending him a private message here. (he is also a member here) I asked him some questions too and he answered me. (Which was very kind!) If you have the answer maybe you can share it here? I am curious too! Best regards, Inde (the Netherlands) Inde43 Thu, 31 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT I am to interested to know. I am taking goji berries and acai juice. Will these are ok to take to help with Ca.? cpmty Thu, 31 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Jan 31, 2013 2:44 AM swift wrote: Hi everyone, I've been reading a lot about Salvestrols lately and the following sentences made me wonder about combining Salvestrols with medicinal mushrooms. "Research suggests that Salvestrols are produced by plants in response to fungal infection, and are therefore most present at the sites where fungi are likely to attack." "A mushroom is the fleshy, spore-bearing fruiting body of a fungus, typically produced above ground on soil or on its food source." Medicinal mushrooms such as Shiitake, Reishi, Maitake, etc. have been known to shrink tumors and boost immunity. Can Salvesterols be combined with these mushrooms to obtain maximum results against cancer?  Would someone here please contact Gerry Potter and find out?  Regards, Swift.Very good question - I'd like to know too if anyone has any thoughts on this? Karl mastergreener Thu, 31 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi everyone, I've been reading a lot about Salvestrols lately and the following sentences made me wonder about combining Salvestrols with medicinal mushrooms. "Research suggests that Salvestrols are produced by plants in response to fungal infection, and are therefore most present at the sites where fungi are likely to attack." "A mushroom is the fleshy, spore-bearing fruiting body of a fungus, typically produced above ground on soil or on its food source." Medicinal mushrooms such as Shiitake, Reishi, Maitake, etc. have been known to shrink tumors and boost immunity. Can Salvesterols be combined with these mushrooms to obtain maximum results against cancer?  Would someone here please contact Gerry Potter and find out?  Regards, Swift. swift Thu, 31 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Jan 25, 2013 10:34 PM kerdes wrote: Can you tell me what multi he takes. KerryMulti-Sure for Men 50+ patromano Sat, 26 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Jan 25, 2013 11:04 PM kerdes wrote: Has anyone taken acai juice with salvestrols?  Does it contain resverarol that would interfere with the salvestrols?  Someone recommended it to me.This is the reply I received. Hi Kerry Acai fruit contain some of the best salvestrols of all including salvestrol Q42 which is unique to this fruit. This compound has been found to be one of the most potent salvestrols and works with the other ones to boost their activity. This makes acai juice a good food to combine with salvestrol supplements. The levels of resveratrol (salvestrol S30) in fruits and foods are never high enough (max 2 mg) to interfere with salvestrol supplements and at the low levels present naturally resveratrol enhances the salvestrol activity, and foods that are rich in resveratrol such as grapes are good to combine with them. It is only high doses of resveratrol (above 50 mg) that interfere with salvestrol activation, and indeed resveratrol even inhibits its own metabolism and this prevents the resveratrol from being activated and doses above 50 mg lower the anticancer activity and block it completely above 1000 mg. So high dose resveratrol supplements (above 100 mg) are not recommended with salvestrol supplements since they will interfere with the salvestrols anticancer activity. kerdes Sat, 26 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT You can ask Mister Gerry Potter, by sending him a private message. ;) Inde43 Sat, 26 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT Has anyone taken acai juice with salvestrols?  Does it contain resverarol that would interfere with the salvestrols?  Someone recommended it to me. kerdes Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT Can you tell me what multi he takes. Kerry kerdes Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Jan 25, 2013 4:37 PM kerdes wrote: On Jan 25, 2013 4:32 PM patromano wrote: On Jan 24, 2013 7:26 PM kerdes wrote: On Jan 24, 2013 7:24 PM kerdes wrote: How much magnesium is recommended with salvestrols? Kerry100mg?Hi Kerry, My dad is taking a multi-vitamin with the recommended niacin, biotin and magnesium. It also contains vit. C, lycopene etc... which are not part of the recommended supplements but nonetheless do not interfere with the Salvestrols. His multi-vit. contains 12.5 mg of niacin, 50 mcg of biotin and 50 mg of magnesium. The bottle says take 2 pills/day but I was told that 1 or 2 pills/day were sufficient with the Salvestrols. My dad has been taking 2 pills/day with his Salvestrols. PatThanks so much, how is he doing?Kerry He is doing fine, thank you. Nothing new to report at the moment. Pat   patromano Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Jan 25, 2013 4:32 PM patromano wrote: On Jan 24, 2013 7:26 PM kerdes wrote: On Jan 24, 2013 7:24 PM kerdes wrote: How much magnesium is recommended with salvestrols? Kerry100mg?Hi Kerry, My dad is taking a multi-vitamin with the recommended niacin, biotin and magnesium. It also contains vit. C, lycopene etc... which are not part of the recommended supplements but nonetheless do not interfere with the Salvestrols. His multi-vit. contains 12.5 mg of niacin, 50 mcg of biotin and 50 mg of magnesium. The bottle says take 2 pills/day but I was told that 1 or 2 pills/day were sufficient with the Salvestrols. My dad has been taking 2 pills/day with his Salvestrols. PatThanks so much, how is he doing?Kerry  kerdes Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Jan 24, 2013 7:26 PM kerdes wrote: On Jan 24, 2013 7:24 PM kerdes wrote: How much magnesium is recommended with salvestrols? Kerry100mg?Hi Kerry, My dad is taking a multi-vitamin with the recommended niacin, biotin and magnesium. It also contains vit. C, lycopene etc... which are not part of the recommended supplements but nonetheless do not interfere with the Salvestrols. His multi-vit. contains 12.5 mg of niacin, 50 mcg of biotin and 50 mg of magnesium. The bottle says take 2 pills/day but I was told that 1 or 2 pills/day were sufficient with the Salvestrols. My dad has been taking 2 pills/day with his Salvestrols. Pat patromano Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi I have posted a lot on this site earlier. My experience is that I have metastatic melanoma and have been battling it just over 2 years. For the first while we were doing ok at keeping the disease at bay with surgery cause it was mostly restricted to the skin and lymph nodes. But eventually it passed to my bones and liver. This was when I was given chemotherapy. During my course of chemotherapy I felt much worse and my pain increased significantly. My ONc rescanned me and discovered that the cancer had grown more so we decided to stop chemo as he believed it was not worth continuing. Thats when I started to use salvestrols and eat only organic foods. I saw Gerry Potter was on this site and so strated to chat to him to learn as much as possible. I was also in the process of been put forward for compassionate use on a new drug for melanoma. After just a short period of time about 2 months I was feeling better and noticed that the pain had eased back considerably. A month after this the Onc needed to scan me for the drug company to get my latest results for the new drug. These scans showed that the liver had cleared up the sternum was healing. Because of the serious side effects we decided to hold off on the new drugs the Onc said it was probably the best idea. I felt great. Everything was going great and I put it down to the salvestrols but I cannot be sure. Now however things are changing. I have an area in my collarbone that was a sclerotic lesion that became lytic. The Onc decided that chemo was a waste of time as it failed already and we tried radiation which failed. So today we are trying a new drug which may help. My info tells me that The salvs and this new drug will actually work well together. I am a builder and I know that there are a lot of anti fungals in all building materials and wonder if that has had an effect on the salvs. So if you understand that I think they work but maybe not for everyone and maybe you need to really concentrate on the diet to keep them effective. I didnt really want to post this as I feel it will put a lot of people off who may well get better from using them. I know two people personally who have used them and gotten better.   Mark   bundy Thu, 24 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT HiBundy, This is not about me, this is about all cancerpatients.  If you or your lived one fight cancer and tried any alernative tratmen just please share it, good or bad. This is not about give a try, my wife tried 'highest rating '  LifeOne herbal treatment  by CancesTutor and her cancer got much worse, that was completele lie. We lost a lot of time and money. You can read it under LifeOne section. I think everything on CancerTutur is scam and lie. It's very easy to sell false hope to cancerpatients. To notrepeatthe mistakes we should be a bit smarter. Thanks   aantony Thu, 24 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT If my husband is on irinotecan and avastin, can he take 6000-8000pts of salvestrols?  Not sure the chemo is working and don't want to take any chances.  Will the CYP1B1 enzyme still turn off while on chemo? Kerry kerdes Thu, 24 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Jan 24, 2013 7:24 PM kerdes wrote: How much magnesium is recommended with salvestrols? Kerry100mg? kerdes Thu, 24 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT How much magnesium is recommended with salvestrols? Kerry kerdes Thu, 24 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT My husband is on iranotecan and is starting Avastin.  He has been on salvestrol for a few months at 3000 pts day.   For a week I have upped to 5000 a day.  Over the last 2 weeks he was on a break from chemo and his cea went up 200pts. Do you think it is the salvestrols? Kerry kerdes Thu, 24 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Bundy, I would like to hear your experience with Salvestrol please. Please do share. I currently have my mam on 12000pts / day. Karl mastergreener Thu, 24 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi aantony I think if I share my experience with you this wont alter your thoughts as it would not provide you with the real evidence that you are looking for. Why are the case studies misleading to you?   Thanks  bundy Thu, 24 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT  bundy Why don't you share your personal experience with the salvestrols and show how this product has halped you. The case studies misleading. We need the real evidence. thanks aantony Thu, 24 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT My personal experience with the salvestrols has been a very interseting. Im not sure if this will help anyone. I think they are a good product and that the idea is really good and I do believe they work in a lot of cases. They are definately worth a go for all you people out there who are considering them. Yes they are expensive but what price can you put on something that may save your life. From what I see there have been a few case studies where they have been really worthwhile. Yes these case studies were performed by the company selling the product. BUt they are still accurate results I guess. I believe the longer you sit on the fence and um and ahh about them the less chance you have. bundy Thu, 24 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Jan 19, 2013 10:03 PM jpbcl wrote: On Jan 19, 2013 1:33 AM patromano wrote: On Jan 18, 2013 10:25 PM capted wrote: Just my opinion, but I think the type and progression of cancer along with the length of time on Salvestrols has more effect than the dosage quantity when one is talking about the differene between 6000 and 12000 points. I hope I am correct. 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haven't been able to find anyone who has had great success in taking 12000 pts. alone without any other treatments. Maybe there isn't a great difference between 6000 and 12000 pts, I just don't know what the optimal dosage and optimal length of time are and you may be correct that the type and progression of the cancer would better determine the dosage. Unfortunately at this time even that would be just a guess and experiment on our part. PatPatromano, That cant be right. Professor Gerry Potter earlier on this thread, said he has 500 cases where Salvestrols were sucessfully used to treat cancer. He also says none of his friends have cancer, as he has given them all Salvestrols. He recomends 6000 points as being adequate, but says you can take up to 12000 points if you dont mind the cost !!! Or am i reading all this wrong?Hi jpbcl, Yes, I do recall Prof.Gerry saying some of those things. As I said before I have yet to hear from some people that 12000 pts. alone without any other medication has helped their prostate cancer. However,  I have yet to hear from some people that 12000 pts. alone without any other medication has NOT helped them. So we took it upon ourselves to try 12000 pts and see what kind of results we get. I was happy to report that my dad's PSA was lowered for the first time in over 4 yrs. after trying Salvestrol Plat. for just over a month.  FYI I have no connection to Gerry Potter and am not trying persuade anyone on their choice of treatments.  Just reporting the facts as we get them and will report the next test results - good or bad. Pat patromano Mon, 21 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Jan 20, 2013 12:14 PM kerdes wrote: On Jan 17, 2013 2:32 PM patromano wrote: On Jan 17, 2013 11:08 AM jennette wrote: Dear patromano, Thank you so much for taking the time to post the results of your dads tests.  I have breast cancer, and the conventional treatment would be mastectomy etc. (there are several tumours) I have taken a low dose of tamoxifen - half the recommended dose - I am small - since sept '11. I have also been taking salvestrol platinum since Feb '12. Every time I go for scans/xrays the cancers are shrinking. They are being called 'subtle' now. In fact one of the tumours is so vague it was very difficult to spot. I dont know, obviously what is causing the shrinkage. But I feel much safer taking the salvestrols as I was concerned that the tamoxifen would work only if the cancer cells were sufficiently dependent on oestrogen. And any breast tumour is made up of more than one type of cancer cell.  Jennette Hi Jennette, That's great news on how you are actively affecting the tumours. Keep doing what you think is working for you. My dad's PSA was 8.44 in Nov./12 and his doctor recommended hormone therapy when it reaches 10. After reading about all the side effects of hormone treatment we decided to give Salvestrols a try. In my dad's case we wanted to isolate the Salvestrol treatment without adding any other therapies in order to see if in fact the Salvestrols alone were helping. It's still early but I can't complain about getting a lower PSA score shortly after a month of treatment when we have been getting nothing but increases over the past 4 years. We will get a clearer picture of what is going on after the next PSA and HCG tests. Hopefully we can bring you good news. If the tests are impressive then further scans will be done . Keep on fighting and I will let you all know the test results  sometime in March. Pat  Could you tell me if your dad's diet has changed.  What is his current diet like? Thanks, KerryHi Kerry, His diet hasn't changed drastically over the years, nor during his time on Salv.Plat . He pretty well eats everything, not a big meat eater but still has small portions of meat on an intermittent basis. Regularly has vegetables, nuts, green tea w/raw ginger and a couple of glasses of red wine daily. I guess you can say it's more of a Mediterranean diet with pastas, fish etc... In the summer he grows his own vegetables and eats quite a bit of  fruit from his trees- figs, berries ... His latest PSA results were not affected by his diet as far as we know.  Pat patromano Sun, 20 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Jan 17, 2013 2:32 PM patromano wrote: On Jan 17, 2013 11:08 AM jennette wrote: Dear patromano, Thank you so much for taking the time to post the results of your dads tests.  I have breast cancer, and the conventional treatment would be mastectomy etc. (there are several tumours) I have taken a low dose of tamoxifen - half the recommended dose - I am small - since sept '11. I have also been taking salvestrol platinum since Feb '12. Every time I go for scans/xrays the cancers are shrinking. They are being called 'subtle' now. In fact one of the tumours is so vague it was very difficult to spot. I dont know, obviously what is causing the shrinkage. But I feel much safer taking the salvestrols as I was concerned that the tamoxifen would work only if the cancer cells were sufficiently dependent on oestrogen. And any breast tumour is made up of more than one type of cancer cell.  Jennette Hi Jennette, That's great news on how you are actively affecting the tumours. Keep doing what you think is working for you. My dad's PSA was 8.44 in Nov./12 and his doctor recommended hormone therapy when it reaches 10. After reading about all the side effects of hormone treatment we decided to give Salvestrols a try. In my dad's case we wanted to isolate the Salvestrol treatment without adding any other therapies in order to see if in fact the Salvestrols alone were helping. It's still early but I can't complain about getting a lower PSA score shortly after a month of treatment when we have been getting nothing but increases over the past 4 years. We will get a clearer picture of what is going on after the next PSA and HCG tests. Hopefully we can bring you good news. If the tests are impressive then further scans will be done . Keep on fighting and I will let you all know the test results  sometime in March. Pat  Could you tell me if your dad's diet has changed.  What is his current diet like? Thanks, Kerry kerdes Sun, 20 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Jan 19, 2013 1:33 AM patromano wrote: On Jan 18, 2013 10:25 PM capted wrote: Just my opinion, but I think the type and progression of cancer along with the length of time on Salvestrols has more effect than the dosage quantity when one is talking about the differene between 6000 and 12000 points. I hope I am correct. EdHi Ed,  I'm not an expert on these matters, I just have not been able to find anyone on any of these forums that have had great success in their treatment of prostate cancer on 6000 pts.alone "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://pts.alone " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">pts.alone without the addition of hormonal agents.  I also haven't been able to find anyone who has had great success in taking 12000 pts. alone without any other treatments. Maybe there isn't a great difference between 6000 and 12000 pts, I just don't know what the optimal dosage and optimal length of time are and you may be correct that the type and progression of the cancer would better determine the dosage. Unfortunately at this time even that would be just a guess and experiment on our part. PatPatromano, That cant be right. Professor Gerry Potter earlier on this thread, said he has 500 cases where Salvestrols were sucessfully used to treat cancer. He also says none of his friends have cancer, as he has given them all Salvestrols. He recomends 6000 points as being adequate, but says you can take up to 12000 points if you dont mind the cost !!! Or am i reading all this wrong? jpbcl Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Jan 18, 2013 10:25 PM capted wrote: Just my opinion, but I think the type and progression of cancer along with the length of time on Salvestrols has more effect than the dosage quantity when one is talking about the differene between 6000 and 12000 points. I hope I am correct. EdHi Ed,  I'm not an expert on these matters, I just have not been able to find anyone on any of these forums that have had great success in their treatment of prostate cancer on 6000 pts.alone without the addition of hormonal agents.  I also haven't been able to find anyone who has had great success in taking 12000 pts. alone without any other treatments. Maybe there isn't a great difference between 6000 and 12000 pts, I just don't know what the optimal dosage and optimal length of time are and you may be correct that the type and progression of the cancer would better determine the dosage. Unfortunately at this time even that would be just a guess and experiment on our part. Pat patromano Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT Just my opinion, but I think the type and progression of cancer along with the length of time on Salvestrols has more effect than the dosage quantity when one is talking about the differene between 6000 and 12000 points. I hope I am correct. Ed capted Fri, 18 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Jan 18, 2013 10:56 AM mastergreener wrote: Hi Pat, Good to hear your input. I too have my Mother currently on Salvestrols Plat 12000pts daily. So I understand the expense. My Mother stopped Chemo in Oct. After which she started on Salvestrols. She had a scan in Nov. She will not be receiving chemo treatment again until after her next CT scan which is Feb. This will also give a good indicator of if the Salvestrols are working or not. I will post the changes in the results in Feb GOOD or BAD. As that is the point really. Fingers crossed for us ALL. KarlHi Karl,  I've noticed some unremarkable results with people going on 6000 pts so hopefully 12000 pts will have an impact. Everyone is different so we don't really know what will happen unless we try.  Good luck to your Mother as well. Pat patromano Fri, 18 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT A study concluded that Evista has similar efficacy to Tamoxifin with fewer side effects. tetech Fri, 18 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi Pat, Good to hear your input. I too have my Mother currently on Salvestrols Plat 12000pts daily. So I understand the expense. My Mother stopped Chemo in Oct. After which she started on Salvestrols. She had a scan in Nov. She will not be receiving chemo treatment again until after her next CT scan which is Feb. This will also give a good indicator of if the Salvestrols are working or not. I will post the changes in the results in Feb GOOD or BAD. As that is the point really. Fingers crossed for us ALL. Karl mastergreener Fri, 18 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Jan 17, 2013 3:57 PM jennette wrote: ThanksPat - I recently stopped taking the tamoxifen as I had to have a D&C to check out a suspicious mass in my womb - (caused by the tamoxifen?) THere was no cancer in the womb, but I stopped taking tamoxifen. It was scarey to go off the tamoxifen as the doctor told me that the only thing causing the breast tumours to shrink was the tamoxifen .I thought that if it really was only the tamoxifen which was shrinking the tumours then I was not going to escape a mastectomy. I am also in the middle of a divorce, and the tamoxifen seemed to be causing havoc with my thinking. So - if the tumours continue to show shrinkage at my next scan, it would be very good news. I wonder is there any 'marker' for breast cancer which might show a reduction in cancer cells? It is always so hopeful to hear someone else using salvestrols and reversing something which seemed inorexible. Thank you again for your support and generosity in sharing. Regards, Jennette No problem Jennette, I have no problem sharing our results with Salvestrols- good or bad. It took us months before going ahead as the dosage my dad is taking is fairly expensive and we were not certain of it's validity. We've entered into this treatment with a fair amount of skepticism but are happy with the direction it is going so far.  The PSA is not a definitive measure of what is happening and is being used as a guideline. I am unaware of other markers in your case. Best of luck with your next scan.  Pat patromano Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT ThanksPat - I recently stopped taking the tamoxifen as I had to have a D&C to check out a suspicious mass in my womb - (caused by the tamoxifen?) THere was no cancer in the womb, but I stopped taking tamoxifen. It was scarey to go off the tamoxifen as the doctor told me that the only thing causing the breast tumours to shrink was the tamoxifen .I thought that if it really was only the tamoxifen which was shrinking the tumours then I was not going to escape a mastectomy. I am also in the middle of a divorce, and the tamoxifen seemed to be causing havoc with my thinking. So - if the tumours continue to show shrinkage at my next scan, it would be very good news. I wonder is there any 'marker' for breast cancer which might show a reduction in cancer cells? It is always so hopeful to hear someone else using salvestrols and reversing something which seemed inorexible. Thank you again for your support and generosity in sharing. Regards, Jennette jennette Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Jan 17, 2013 11:08 AM jennette wrote: Dear patromano, Thank you so much for taking the time to post the results of your dads tests.  I have breast cancer, and the conventional treatment would be mastectomy etc. (there are several tumours) I have taken a low dose of tamoxifen - half the recommended dose - I am small - since sept '11. I have also been taking salvestrol platinum since Feb '12. Every time I go for scans/xrays the cancers are shrinking. They are being called 'subtle' now. In fact one of the tumours is so vague it was very difficult to spot. I dont know, obviously what is causing the shrinkage. But I feel much safer taking the salvestrols as I was concerned that the tamoxifen would work only if the cancer cells were sufficiently dependent on oestrogen. And any breast tumour is made up of more than one type of cancer cell.  Jennette Hi Jennette, That's great news on how you are actively affecting the tumours. Keep doing what you think is working for you. My dad's PSA was 8.44 in Nov./12 and his doctor recommended hormone therapy when it reaches 10. After reading about all the side effects of hormone treatment we decided to give Salvestrols a try. In my dad's case we wanted to isolate the Salvestrol treatment without adding any other therapies in order to see if in fact the Salvestrols alone were helping. It's still early but I can't complain about getting a lower PSA score shortly after a month of treatment when we have been getting nothing but increases over the past 4 years. We will get a clearer picture of what is going on after the next PSA and HCG tests. Hopefully we can bring you good news. If the tests are impressive then further scans will be done . Keep on fighting and I will let you all know the test results  sometime in March. Pat   patromano Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT Dear patromano, Thank you so much for taking the time to post the results of your dads tests.  I have breast cancer, and the conventional treatment would be mastectomy etc. (there are several tumours) I have taken a low dose of tamoxifen - half the recommended dose - I am small - since sept '11. I have also been taking salvestrol platinum since Feb '12. Every time I go for scans/xrays the cancers are shrinking. They are being called 'subtle' now. In fact one of the tumours is so vague it was very difficult to spot. I dont know, obviously what is causing the shrinkage. But I feel much safer taking the salvestrols as I was concerned that the tamoxifen would work only if the cancer cells were sufficiently dependent on oestrogen. And any breast tumour is made up of more than one type of cancer cell.  Jennette jennette Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT Yes Psa can fluctuate but it is intersting [ to me] that a drop of 1.40 pts. occurred in little over a month of Salv.Plat . My dad had radiation treatments in Aug.2006. His PSA went from 7.08 in May of 2006 to a low of 1.06 Oct/2008. From that point on every single PSA test showed an increase. This may be an anomaly or just a coincidence but if the next PSA test shows an even bigger drop then yes scans will be done. patromano Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Jan 16, 2013 5:48 PM patromano wrote: On Jan 05, 2013 12:09 PM conradza wrote: Hi blueskies12, Salvestrol's quite new on the market and I think people want to be convinced it worked before they'll start writing about it on forums. If you see some progress you don't want to be too optimistic and rather wait. Persons with smaller cancers will tend to follow conventional procedures as recommended by most doctors. It is then difficult to  give any credit to Salvestrol, even if they use it to prevent recurrence. Also, if one has advanced cancer, especially in the liver, killing all the cancer cells will still leave a very sick person that will take a long time to recover. Update on my dad's use of Salv.Plat "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://Salv.Plat " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Salv.Plat .- June/09 his PSA was 1.60.  From there it steadily rose at every test to the point of 8.44 at the end of Nov./12. He began Sal. Plat. Dec/12 and increased his dosage to 12000 pts. by the second or third week of Dec.  His last PSA test done on Jan. 4 showed a drop to 7.04. This is the first time a drop has occurred since 2009. We will get back to you with the results of his next PSA test along with the results of his HCG test sometime in March. PatPSA alone doesn't mean anything. What about CT or MRI scans. Psa can fluctuate. http://prostate-cancer.org/decision-aide/finding-if-you-have     aantony Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT On Jan 05, 2013 12:09 PM conradza wrote: Hi blueskies12, Salvestrol's quite new on the market and I think people want to be convinced it worked before they'll start writing about it on forums. If you see some progress you don't want to be too optimistic and rather wait. Persons with smaller cancers will tend to follow conventional procedures as recommended by most doctors. It is then difficult to  give any credit to Salvestrol, even if they use it to prevent recurrence. Also, if one has advanced cancer, especially in the liver, killing all the cancer cells will still leave a very sick person that will take a long time to recover. Update on my dad's use of Salv.Plat .- June/09 his PSA was 1.60.  From there it steadily rose at every test to the point of 8.44 at the end of Nov./12. He began Sal. Plat. Dec/12 and increased his dosage to 12000 pts. by the second or third week of Dec.  His last PSA test done on Jan. 4 showed a drop to 7.04. This is the first time a drop has occurred since 2009. We will get back to you with the results of his next PSA test along with the results of his HCG test sometime in March. Pat patromano Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT Hi blueskies12, Salvestrol's quite new on the market and I think people want to be convinced it worked before they'll start writing about it on forums. If you see some progress you don't want to be too optimistic and rather wait. Persons with smaller cancers will tend to follow conventional procedures as recommended by most doctors. It is then difficult to  give any credit to Salvestrol, even if they use it to prevent recurrence. Also, if one has advanced cancer, especially in the liver, killing all the cancer cells will still leave a very sick person that will take a long time to recover. conradza Sat, 05 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT I too am really dubious about Salvestrols. If they did work like they said they work why isn't everyone trying them? Where are the independent case studies? People I know have suggested them as treatment for a brain tumour. They cost a lot. Have they made anyone feel better at least?? blueskies12 Sat, 05 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT Kerdes There is a serious lack of enough research here, and no forum where case histories are verified and logged. http://forum.cancer.ie/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=724&a jpbcl Thu, 03 Jan 2013 00:00:00 GMT was wondering if Salvestrol will lower CRP.  Can't get my husbands down.   Has anyone experienced a feeling of just feeling lousy while on salvestrols? Has anyone combined salvestrol with Avastin and CPT-11? Thanks, Kerry kerdes Sun, 30 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Karl, Good question! There is a book called 'the healing codes'  by Alex Lloyd - it helps sort out psychological stuff/trauma - the idea is that one then has more energy available in the system to fight nasties. Gerry Potter suggested chloroquine - this seems very useful looking at the research. Seems to kill the stem cancer cells. The researchers are going to the old drugs as they dont need clinical trials as they already have a safety record and are cheap. You might also find it interesting to look at 'Rising sun Health' - the Bloodroot immune nutritional support tea. Co Q 10 seems to oxygenate the cells. As does lipo vit and Chlorella. Salvestrols work better if the cells are oxygenated. Artimesinin targets cells with lots of iron in them - which cancer cells have. DIM and Indole 3 look very interesting too. Even the DIM in humble raw broccoli seems very effective. I am researching and going to try the bloodroot tea - not the creams as they seem lethal! Am taking co Q 10- this seems good against breast cancer, but not all cancers. - Also take iodine ---- Let me know what you think. Jennette        jennette Mon, 24 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT Professor Potter, I was your tutee at DMU for my first two years. I have now finished my degree (MPharm and Genetics) and have been hunting to get intouch with yiou again. I hope you remember me. Regards Poonam. Poonam.Makwana Sat, 22 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT So what do you suggest apart from Salvestrol? Thanks Jennette. Karl mastergreener Wed, 19 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi this is Jennette, I am told reservatrol is another type of salvestrols - Gerry apparently has located another which seems to be v effective for advanced cancers, which seem to work differently, and is working on this. I think the prob with reservatrol is that it is just not as effective against cancers as other salvestrols - and can cause cancers to grow. The plants in Essaic tea contain salvestrols- but obviously not in the quantities found in salvestrol platinum. Circumin is very difficult to absorb for the body - and Gerry's tests showed it not to be too effective. Really interested in the avemar - will look that up. Prob with Co Q10 - seems to be spot on for breast cancer, but other cancers seem to like it. Are you doing well with your cancer? - I suppose like everything the proof of the pudding is in the eating - There are several probs with cancer - firstly it blinds the immune system - so you can have all the killer cells in the world and they dont see the cancer - and secondly the cancer cells grow like crazy when the body is hungry due often to chemo destroying the lining of the digestive tract. They get their food by causing stress to neighbouring good cells, which self destruct and give the cancers their yummy goodies.  You can guess how much I respect and dislike cancer Best wishes, J   jennette Wed, 19 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT please pm and ask me questions I don't want to take over this post. But I think 250mg of resveratrol is all most people need. Regarding chemo,  I only really use avemar and sometimes essiac tea. I have read 100's of pages of research on the use of many extracts and vitamins while on chemo and there are pro's and con's to them all but avemar wins hands down, you can use a small does of curcumin or maybe some Beta-1,3/1,6-D-Glucan (Beta-Glucan) if you have immune issues. Vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF) is a chemical signal produced by cells that stimulates the growth of new blood vessels. You can use many things to reduce the levels of VEGF such as green tea extract, CLA, CoQ10, curcumin, green coffee bean extract, Milk Thistle, NAC, Pomegranate extract, Quercetin, Vitamin D, Apigenin, lycopene and melatonin to name a few. Please Pm information about current supplements and I will have a look. Remember its important to take good quality supplements not all are the same quality. ozzieme Wed, 19 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi John Paul - this is Jennette. I have seen both Gerry Potter and Dan Burke talk here in Ireland. I felt there was so much trust involved in taking a remedy which at the end of the day was only an extract of fruit and veg, that I needed to see the developers of the product to see how genuine they were. Gerry is actually very modest, downbeat, and really, a scientist not salesman. In fact he suggested that if we all ate an organic apple a day we would probably have enough salvestrols  to kill off stray cancer cells  and stop tumours developing. He also said that he has had many experiences of people starting taking salvestrols when they were too ill for chemo - then when they started to get better the doctors took the opportunity to give them chemo-and they died. I suppose the fact is that chemo damages the lining of the digestive tract and it would be difficult then for the body to use the salvestrols --- I dont know --- A friend of mine who is at deaths door has just started taking salvestrols, chloroquine, and a blood root formula in capsule form so you can make it into tea (www.bloodrootproducts.com) and I will let you know how he gets on. I am taking the salvestrol platinum 2, 3x a day - and chloroquine once a week. My body is also asking for Berberine and grapefruit seed formula from Nutri - it is a really interesting formula which has Sweet Annie in too.(Artimesia.) I am also using iodine - you put the drops on your skin and rub it in - it will be absorbed from there. Iodine is displaced by fluorine and chlorine which is in our water ( ref periodic table) - and that causes a lot of problems to our systems. I am also using the 'Healing Codes' book by Alex Lloyd. He is a mainline therapist - who is supported in his thesis by doctors - who believes that we spend an awful lot of energy trying to deal with things which we have learned when we were younger, and which continue to hurt us. He gives a very simple way of accessing these miserable belief systems and 'putting them to bed'. He thinks we have an awful lot more energy then to put into dealing with the problems of the day - which in my case is getting rid of the fecking cancer and getting my health back. Best wishes to all the heroes out there who are willing to give life a bash. Jennette   jennette Fri, 14 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi All, thought this was significant 'hearsay' feedback on Salvestrol efficacy from Gerry Potter. Could help to explain lack of response in some. http://forum.cancer.ie/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=724&a Post subject: Re: Salvestrols at work - do they really work against cancer PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:50 pm Offline Joined: Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:35 pm Posts: 4 Hi Karl, I went to a talk recently in Cork by Prof Gerry Potter - who researched and developed salestrols.It is really good talking to the men themselves- we are very lucky. Main line scientists who have been invoved in cancer research for all their lives. I am doing really well! Gerry said about one in five people dont have the mechanism needed to convert the salvestrols via the CYP1B1 enzymee into lethal cancer killers. I was upset as I have been taking the salvestrols since Feb 2012 and the three cancers I have in my breast have been thinning and shrinking but are not gone. I thought they could be going because of the tamoxifen - which is what the surgeon says is happening. So - I thought I should stop the tamoxifen and see what happened. Gerry gave me good advice -to take chloroquine - look it up - it is a very good cancer killler - take on the min dose as for malaria prevention. Lots of research there- he had talked to researchers who said it helped the salvestrols work. Cancers still shrinking away nicely - and one of them is hardly discernable on ultrasound. Gerry suggests taking the salvestrols for three months - see what happens. Is there a result? - he says many people have their cancer completely resolve within 6 months. Jennette JeanPaul Sun, 09 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Katina and All   I think that you have given us all much hope in your very positive report. I am sure that the count will evertually reach zero.   I would like to tell you that I have also had wonderful news. The path report returned on Friday was all clear for Chart......my German Shepherd who I am treating for he incurrable Hemangiosarcoma. He is also on a few other vitamins etc, but Salvestrol 2000 x 2 daily is unquestionably the reason I believe for this great result. I will continue on the same dose for some time, then may drop it to 1 x daily. He was on 3 x daily for about two months after diagnosis on 1 June 2012.   Regards Peter peter1 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT hello everybody, i don't want to seem over enthusiastic, but still i'd like to share our experience with prostate cancer. my husband was diagnosed prostate cancer, gleason 9, in may 2012 and had resection of the prostate in june. after rehab, psa was around 0,8 for three months and then rose to 1,68 within 4 weeks. that was around 20th october. pet ct showed a  very small met in the pelvis bone. so cyber knife (radiation therapy) was scheduled for 29th november. i had started him on salvestroles (2000 pt, three a day) and budwig (not very strict, only the flax seed oil muesli) sometime in october. apart from that we do vitamin D, pomgranate, mistle therapy to boost the immune system, lots of sports, yoga and meditation. no sugar, no meat, just lots of good and delicious food, herbal teas and the occasional glas of red wine. two daysbeforethe cyber knife we did another blood test, results came only yesterday: psa was down to 0,77 from 1,68!!! the cyber knife was ok, he took it well, just a bit of exhaustion in the evening. now, since psa had dropped even without radiation, our hopes are up to get psa down to zero within the next months. to summarize it: psa went down from 1,6 to 0,7 without any additional treatment except budwig and salvestrol. i dare not get my hopes up to high, but still... best wishes to all of you and your beloved ones! katina ps: lots of thanks to prof. gerry potter. i have my own hypothesis, why he can't post here anymore. still i hope, he follows the thread. katina_ Wed, 05 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT Sorry if this is posted on someone elses thread.  Not sure how to post something in this discussion except to reply to someone elses.   Has anyone who has cancer in the liver has liver swelling while on salvestrols? Thanks, kerry kerdes Tue, 04 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT If you want proof, send me your email address through a private email (not a reply) and I will send you a copy of my CT and bone scans...PLEASE DO NOT SHARE THIS INFORMATION WITH ANYONE! Ray gleason10 Tue, 04 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT We have tried Budwig and got nothing!     aantony Tue, 04 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT Cancer people can easily believe on any false/not proved  statements/testimonials/books Please post only verified facts and don’t refer to books. Books truncate the facts and I think the biggest scam! We are here to share the FACTS please!   aantony Tue, 04 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT Once again, the link was broken and I did not receive the "private reply".  Click on my username (gleason10) and send me a private email...I will reply. Ray gleason10 Tue, 04 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT I agee with Karl, please limit discussion to Salvestrols, good or bad.We are here because the Big Pharma remedies have not worked. Salvestrols make more sense than anything I have read and the Salvestrols explain why people have had success with organic diets. capted capted Tue, 04 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT Someone sent me a "private message" but the link was broken...please resend the message. Ray gleason10 Tue, 04 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT I sent him a private message a few weeks ago and he replied to it. So he will probably get it now. mastergreener Tue, 04 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hello Ray, Maybe you can send Gerry a private message, to tell the good news. He is still a member here. I wish you all the best!! Inde43 Tue, 04 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT Thanks Ray, That's encouraging news. Hope things start to improve for you again. Karl mastergreener Tue, 04 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT aantony, I posted this message back in May '12 about my stage IV prostate cancer with bony mets...Salvestrol DOES work.  My PSA, unfortunately, has been rising lately so I'm not sure if salvestrol can overcome my very aggressive cancer, but I'm still going to continue taking it.  Here is the post: Hannah, I started my trial of TAK-700 on Tuesday...but the most exciting news is what "didn't" show up on my scans prior to starting the trial. I've been taking 12,000 points of Salvestrol for 3 months. I had a MUGA (heart) scan, CT, and bone scan as a prerequisite to starting the trial. I had a bony lesion in L5 vertebrae that always showed up on previous scans ever since I was diagnosed in 2008 (confirmed by bone biopsy). The results of the CT and bone scan showed the lesion was GONE! I have not changed anything in my treatment protocol in the previous 3 months, except for the addition of Salvestrol. Cancerous lesions don't just disappear, so Salvestrol must have eliminated the cancer in my bone (Gerry was right...the mets will disappear first and then attack the main tumor). I will continue to take Salvestrol while I'm on the TAK-700 trial and maybe the combination will eliminate the cancer in my prostate. I wish Gerry was still participating in these blogs so I can tell him my news. Regards, Ray As an update, I had some unpleasant side-effects taking TAK-700 so I discontinued the trial. Wishing you the best, Ray gleason10 Tue, 04 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hey everyone, I'd just like to comment on a few things that have been mentioned recently in this thread. Please try not to hi-jack threads. This particular thread is about Salvestrol and not about every other alternative treatment. Lets try and stay on topic. CancerTutor site is a very risky site and ANYTHING they say take with a grain of salt. I would only take ideas from their site which can point me in a research direction. Salvestrol works on a points system. Currently my mam is on Salvestrol 2000 point tabs. Each tab contains about 500mg of Salvestrol and the recommended daily dose for my mam to take is 12000 points (i.e. 3000mg). This dose can be read from various Salvestrol websites and it was personally told to me by Prof. Gerry Potter who is directly connected to Salvestrol. My mam takes 2 tabs 3 times daily with food and within a 5 hour period of eachother as Salvestrol has a 4-5 hour active period in the body. So you want to have continuous Salvestrol activity for as long as possible throughout the day. If you want to talk about alternative therapies please post in an already active thread about it or start your own and post the link here and I can add what I have done with my mam. Example of what we are doing: 4Life- Transfer Factor, Salvestrol, herbal remedies, high dose vitamins (Hoffer Regimen), LDN, Iscador, Wheatgrass shots, Alkaline diet mostly etc. Be mindful about anything you read online. Any info you get validate it from a few different sources. Try to look up reputable sites. Don't be scammed easily. These forums are the best place to throw out ideas and see if anyone else has any experience with them. Karl mastergreener Tue, 04 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Dec 04, 2012 3:23 AM aantony wrote: We did LifeOne and B17 protocolfor 4.5 monthfound on cancer tutor web site. Spent over 6k and tumors got 5 times bigger for 5 month(from 0.8 cm to 3.6 cm). They explained that LifeOne creates inflammation inside of tumors and kills them. They lie!!!!!!!!!,  Big scam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have you tried Budwig. I read lots of the budwig forums and the flaxseed oil groups and they have great success. samoyed1 Tue, 04 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT We did LifeOne and B17 protocolfor 4.5 monthfound on cancer tutor web site. Spent over 6k and tumors got 5 times bigger for 5 month(from 0.8 cm to 3.6 cm). They explained that LifeOne creates inflammation inside of tumors and kills them. They lie!!!!!!!!!,  Big scam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! aantony Tue, 04 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Kerry, could you also tell me what kind of alternative treatments you tried so far for how long? Thank you very much and best regards Duygu duygu Tue, 04 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Antony, My mother has also stage IV cc and we are just starting with different alternative treatments. Could you tell me what kind of alternative treatments you tried, which apparently did not work? Thanks and blessings Duygu duygu Tue, 04 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT We are in the same boat.  My husband has stage 4 CC and we have tried alternatives that didn't work either.  Would love to hear from people who have stage 4 and are now cured.   We are back to chemo again also, but are seeing a naturapath also and taking lots of supplements.  He tests the blood often for things the onc does not.   His cea is coming down, and he is feeling great, don't know how long it will last, but I guess we have to take what we can get. Best of luck to you, Kerry kerdes Mon, 03 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT I tried to find just one stage four cancer patients who has benefited from selvestrol but couldn’t. Is this real? And if this real why I can’t find the evidence. My wife has stage 4 colon cancer and tried a lot of alternative treatments but didn’t work at all, now back to chemo. Thanks   aantony Mon, 03 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Dec 03, 2012 6:52 PM kerdes wrote: I have heard that 2000mg of resveratrol a day is too much, that it is not affective at that high of a dose, what has your experience been.   Do you recommend it to your patients that are taking chemotherapy, or do your patients not take chemo? Thanks, KerrySorry I was addressing Ozzieme kerdes Mon, 03 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT I have heard that 2000mg of resveratrol a day is too much, that it is not affective at that high of a dose, what has your experience been.   Do you recommend it to your patients that are taking chemotherapy, or do your patients not take chemo? Thanks, Kerry kerdes Mon, 03 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT dear ozzieme, Do you have any suggestions on how to lower VEGF's (which I understand are growth factors).  He is on a bunch of supplements I mentioned before, but they don't seem to be coming down.  He is taking irinotecan and it was lowering his CEA, but it seems to have slowed right down if not stopped.  Dr. wants to add another agent, very worried about quality of life with another chemo added. Thanks for your help, Kerry kerdes Mon, 03 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT I  read that holding  Resveratrol in the mouth results in up to 100X more absorption than if it was only swallowed (poor absorption in GI tract).  Might this be true for other salvestrols? tetech Mon, 03 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT Has anyone had a CEA go up after using salvestrols?  Does salvestrols work at boosting your immune system also?  Would it cause the antigen (CEA) to go up? Been using salvestrols for 4 weeks now. Kerry kerdes Sun, 02 Dec 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Nov 20, 2012 1:58 AM patromano wrote: On Nov 17, 2012 2:48 PM WaterlooDon wrote: check out low dose naltrexone { LDN } and it`s usefullness re cancerHi Don, Will it interfere in any way with Salvestrol Plat. [ I'm assuming not since you are taking it] , any side effects, where do you get it and do you need a prescription? PatI`ve been taking both for the past 8 mos. No side effects noted. I get mine from a UK source. Just google Salvestrols and you should come across the names of distributors in your area/country. You do not need a prescription. WaterlooDon Tue, 27 Nov 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Oct 19, 2012 3:02 AM kerdes wrote: On Oct 19, 2012 1:54 AM ozzieme wrote: On Oct 15, 2012 9:36 PM kerdes wrote: On Oct 12, 2012 10:15 AM ozzieme wrote: To reduce fibrinogen levels try fibrinogen resist with nattokinase from lef it's a great product its what I use in my clinic. Regarding the salvestrol levels in what your taking most Likely your only getting a small amount from the resveratrol I use the resveratrol with pterostilbene remember some times a high quality supplement or extract can make all the difference in your protocol. I have gone back using resveratrol over salvestrol.How much of the fibringen resist so you suggest he take?  His ND said he has used nattokinase without much luck, but he suggests trying the product you suggested, he has no experience with it and is interested to see if it would help.  He is taking other things for fibrinogen but it is still on the rise.  Do you recommend a vegetarian diet to your cancer patients? Kerryhi sorry for the delay in getting back but I have been busy with my clinic. I would use 1 tablet 2 times per day of the Fibrinogen Resist with Nattokinase. you could also try 81mg per day of aspirin. as well as many other things that can reduce fibrinogen like: bromelain EFA garlic Ginkgo Biloba Green Tea Gugulipid niacin vitamin A and C there are also a number of other nutrients that can assist in thinning of the blood and opposing platelet aggregation such as: aspirin Beta Carotene Co Enzyme Q10 Curcumin Fish Oil Flaxseed oil garlic Kyolic ginger magnesium olive leaf extract pantethine policosanol proanthocyanidins selenium tocotrienols vitamin E you can also try the prescription drug pentoxifylline this will help to lower ribrinogen levels is supplements fail, the does would be 400mg twice a day. regarding the vegetarian diet for cancer patients, I dont recommend a vegetarian diet but..... I you should clean up your diet as much as you can eat a mix of fruit and veggies and cut back on meat and fats, reduce fast foods and use better oils for cooking such as olive oils. Just eat good foods you know are good for you try and eat some more chicken and fish with lots of veggies and reduce sugar and softdrinks. as for the question about Resveratrol I use Life Extension, Optimized Resveratrol with Synergistic Grape-Berry Actives, 250 mg 1 tablet per day should be good for most people. I think that answered all the questions.Thanks so much for all your help. KerryAdded fibrinogen resist, levels have gone down.  (thanks) Our ND added Termeric, not sure what did it, but something did.   Has anyone had sid effects from salvestrols.  Having a lot of diarrhea, not sure what is doing it.  A few new things were added at once, or it could be the chemo.  This is his third round of chemo and it hasn't has this effect before. Thanks, Kerry kerdes Tue, 27 Nov 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Nov 17, 2012 2:48 PM WaterlooDon wrote: check out low dose naltrexone { LDN } and it`s usefullness re cancerHi Don, Will it interfere in any way with Salvestrol Plat. [ I'm assuming not since you are taking it] , any side effects, where do you get it and do you need a prescription? Pat patromano Tue, 20 Nov 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Nov 18, 2012 11:25 AM peter1 wrote: Hi Cathy many thanks for the info. I would suggest you read Dr Dresslers book : The Dog Cancer Survival Guide. Can read it free on the web. See his diet recommendations and supplements. He is the guro on dog cancers. Keep in touch. Regards PeterHi Peter thanks very much for this information I'm not already aware of Dr Dressler but I'll definitely check this out - much appreciated. Kind regards Cathy cathymac Sun, 18 Nov 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Cathy many thanks for the info. I would suggest you read Dr Dresslers book : The Dog Cancer Survival Guide. Can read it free on the web. See his diet recommendations and supplements. He is the guro on dog cancers. Keep in touch. Regards Peter peter1 Sun, 18 Nov 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Nov 17, 2012 3:22 PM peter1 wrote: Hi Cathy Only just seen your emailed response. Very sorry to hear about your fellow, but can only hope that he remains comfortable and happy and that there is as much time left as possible. I spoke to Dan Burke via a Salvestrol live seminar back in June / July this year. I had Chart on 3 x platiniums daily for a couple of months, but are now down to 2 x daily. I do not see any problem in giving 3 tabs, but also need to give a good multivitamin. I have him on a free range meat and veg diet. I must say that he is doing very well, and I shall have blood tests done again at the end of this month which will indicate the state of any spread.........nothing on 26 August and no need to believ that things have changed now. Will keep you posted. Please do the same with you fellow. I do hope all goes well. Regards PeterHi Peter thanks so much for your response I appreciate this and it's wonderful to hear that your dog remains well. We've commenced giving Arnie a multivitamin every day & his diet is mainly fish - various types & rice, he also enjoys quorn mince with carrot & potato! For a few days he was refusing to eat but 4 days ago his appetite picked up & we're giving him several smallish meals every day which he seems to enjoy.The cardiologist contacted us yesterday evening to give us blood results - very low potassium & very high urea - he's now taking potassium supplements but I'm hoping that his next blood results will be improved since he's now eating & drinking which he wasn't doing when these were taken 4 days ago. I'll keep you informed of his progress and meantime I'll check out if there are any on line seminars re Salvesterols. I'll be interested to hear about your dog's progress & wish him all the very best. Kind regards  Cathy   cathymac Sat, 17 Nov 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Cathy Only just seen your emailed response. Very sorry to hear about your fellow, but can only hope that he remains comfortable and happy and that there is as much time left as possible. I spoke to Dan Burke via a Salvestrol live seminar back in June / July this year. I had Chart on 3 x platiniums daily for a couple of months, but are now down to 2 x daily. I do not see any problem in giving 3 tabs, but also need to give a good multivitamin. I have him on a free range meat and veg diet. I must say that he is doing very well, and I shall have blood tests done again at the end of this month which will indicate the state of any spread.........nothing on 26 August and no need to believ that things have changed now. Will keep you posted. Please do the same with you fellow. I do hope all goes well. Regards Peter peter1 Sat, 17 Nov 2012 00:00:00 GMT check out low dose naltrexone { LDN } and it`s usefullness re cancer WaterlooDon Sat, 17 Nov 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Nov 16, 2012 7:39 PM WaterlooDon wrote: I am relieved to inform you that my last PSA on blood drawn in late October was 1.62 down from a score from a year ago of 1.86. This improvement is substantiated by my last HCG score of 52.2 down from 52.6 realized 8 months ago. I take 6000 pts. of SP daily 3.0 mg. of LDN and several other natural supplements along with a strict diet and regular exercise. I see Dr. Francesco Anello in Cambridge where I receive IV`s of Vit. C and ALA....for the past several years.Hi Don, Great news on keeping your PCa in check. My dad who has recurrent PCa after failed radiation has agreed to give Salvestrol Platinum a try. He is currently on 6000 pts. and will begin 12000 pts. next month and continue for another 3 months at that dosage. Along with SP he is on a multi-vitamin containing the recommended supplements of biotin, magnesium and niacin, a probiotic daily, and 4000 mg. of Vitamin C in Medi C Plus Vit.C and lysene formula. I will back to you with our results after the next PSA test. Pat  patromano Sat, 17 Nov 2012 00:00:00 GMT I am relieved to inform you that my last PSA on blood drawn in late October was 1.62 down from a score from a year ago of 1.86. This improvement is substantiated by my last HCG score of 52.2 down from 52.6 realized 8 months ago. I take 6000 pts. of SP daily 3.0 mg. of LDN and several other natural supplements along with a strict diet and regular exercise. I see Dr. Francesco Anello in Cambridge where I receive IV`s of Vit. C and ALA....for the past several years. WaterlooDon Fri, 16 Nov 2012 00:00:00 GMT I am relieved to inform you that my last PSA on blood drawn in late October was 1.62 down from a score from a year ago of 1.86. This improvement is substantiated by my last HCG score of 52.2 down from 52.6 realized 8 months ago. I take 6000 pts. of SP daily 3.0 mg. of LDN and several other natural supplements along with a strict diet and regular exercise. I see Dr. Francesco Anello in Cambridge where I receive IV`s of Vit. C and ALA....for the past several years. WaterlooDon Fri, 16 Nov 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Sep 25, 2012 1:14 PM peter1 wrote: Hi All Just want to let you all know what my experience of Salvestrol has been.   My beloved German Shpherd dog was diagnosed with Hemangiosarcoma on 1 June this year. This is a vicious and fast moving cancer. He had his spleen removed, but the surgeon (top vet), told me that the best he could offer was 3 months for Chart. I has horrified. Long storey cut short, I discovered Salvestrols. Discussed the matter with Prof Dan Burke, and started Chart on 2 x 2000 points daily. Upped it to 3 x 2000 points daily a month later. Had thorough blood tests and all ink stain cancer tests 2 weeks ago. The vet is in disbelief as there is NO sign of the cancer at all. He checked specific enyzmes and ooked for immature red blood cells that would be produced by the bone marrow should the cancer have continued. Not a thing visible. He was astounded. As Chart had to have his spleen removed with the tumour after he haemoraged, there are no red cells being made by the spleen any longer. I can only say that I am CONVINCED that Salvestrols have given us this wonderful news. We have a another 2 months to go as 6 months would have been the max length of time that a dog with Hemangiosarcoma could live, but i am most positive that we have cracked this one. Hope this gives many people the positive encouragement that I personally feel Salvestrols offer. Look forward to hearing more success stories. Regards PeterHello Peter I've just been reading your story and I'm so delighted for you and for your dog - I hope your dog goes on to make a full recovery. I've recently been reading about the work of Dan Burke & Gerry Potter and have found it to be fascinating & very exciting. One of my dogs has recently been diagnosed as having a myxoma - a tumour in the left atrium of his heart. To summarise - last week he had a particularly distressing episode of breathlessness, rapid heart rate, & extreme weakness - euthanazia was discussed, however following emergency intervention by the cardiologist who's caring for him his condition stabilised & we were given the option of continuing with drug therapy - high dose diuretics. There was no choice for us and we have continued with his drug therapy, we have been advised that his prognosis is extremely poor - perhaps 1 - 2 weeks but also that he could die suddenly as a result of complete occlusion of his mitral valve. Since last week he's been comfortable although disinclined to eat - during past two days his appetite has returned albeit not normal. We commenced him on Salvesterol Platinum 2000points two days ago - this is his third day & we're giving him 6000 points daily. We don't know correct dose & wondered if either Dan Burke or Gerry Potter would be agreeable to being contacted? We see that you discussed your dog's case with Dan Burke & wondered if you did this by sending him an e-mail? Any information you can share with us will be much appreciated. We are fortunate to have an excellent vet & also the specialist who is a European expert in veterinary cardiology therefore we know that everything possible is being done but we also know that the prognosis is very bleak.Wishin g you & your dog all the very best. Kind regards   Cathy cathymac Fri, 16 Nov 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Oct 19, 2012 11:56 AM samoyed1 wrote: On Oct 19, 2012 10:59 AM ozzieme wrote: there is very little to support the use of coconut oil over olive oil. In a study of 362 pancreatic cases and 1502 controls in italy, olive oil was found to have a comparatively more favorable impact on the risk of pancreatic cancer than other types of seasoning fats. 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These results open the possibility of considering virgin olive oil a chemopreventive agent for peptic ulcer or gastric cancer,” reported the researchers. I know olive oil is EXCELLENT, however not when heated to high temperatures and should be consumed due to all the health benefits, but not use heated. the mediteranian use it cold on foods I think. I only mentioned used for cooking.Ideally non virgin oil is used for cooking since it doesn't become harmful at high temperatures. Amarr Mon, 12 Nov 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hello there. For clear information about the effect of resveratrol on Cyp1b1 and efficacy of salvestrols - if you scroll bck to page 1 or 2 of this bog, click on Gerry potters picture and go to his profile which lists ll of his comments until he was blocked from this blog, in April 2012there are several posts by Gerry explaining this. Cheers debCNZ DebCNZ Thu, 08 Nov 2012 00:00:00 GMT Resveratrol is OK in low doses up to 50 mg, but at higher doses is an inhibitor of CYP1B1 and hinders the metabolism of the other salvestrols so its best to leave it out. ozzieme Thu, 08 Nov 2012 00:00:00 GMT As far as I am aware resveratrol can be taken with Salvestrol. Peter peter1 Tue, 06 Nov 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Nov 01, 2012 8:29 AM DebCNZ wrote: Hi Kerry. I am a breast cancer survivor in New Zealand and use Iscador which builds your immunity by boosting natural killer cells ( one of the white blood cells that 'Gobble up' cancer and abnormal cells) alongside salvestrols (2000 pts daily) and a collection of supplements including iodine astaxanthin indole3 in Clinicians womans hormone support blend. I can't see any conflict of Iscador with salvestrols based on Gerry potters advice that only vit b17 ( apricot kernels) and high levels of resveratrol ( and carbon monoxide from cigarette smoking) interfere with salvestrols action. I also have embraced coconut oil in my life. Anyone interested should read on the mercola website or just google 'benefits of coconut oil'. The most important thing is to get virgin coconut oil from a good source. My favourite is Celebes brand available in some health stores and online in nz from johnappleton.co.nz "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://johnappleton.co.nz " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">johnappleton.co.nz . Cheers. DebbieI have never heard  anyone speak about resveratrol affecting salvestrols.  I thought resveratrol was a salvestrol.  My husband is taking 2000mg of resveratrol a day per order of his ND.  I really don't want to stop it.  I did add salvestrols to see if they would help.   Anyone have any advice or have heard anything about taking resveratrol with salvestrols? Thanks, Kerry kerdes Tue, 06 Nov 2012 00:00:00 GMT I would like to know if salvestrols (platinum) can be safely taken with pomegranate seeds? Or do these seeds contain too much vitamin B17? Inde43 Mon, 05 Nov 2012 00:00:00 GMT The reason for the increase in Salvestrol was purely research on how salvestrol works, it seems that if your cancer is in the early stages then the lower dose will work but if the cancer is in the advanced stages then the higher dose is recommended. Going from a PSA of 1170 to 32 in 7.5 months we considered to be excellent but it was considered too slow by the specialist who recommended surgical removal of the testicals in September that option was turned down and Rob decided that he would continue on with the salvestrol. Eliguard could very well be the reason for the drop but I am sure we will see at least by Jan 2013. He does think that salvestrol has made a huge difference in his quality of life so hopefully it can do the same for his quantity of life. A bone scan that was carried out in March showed some bone mets and he has requested another bone scan for Jan 2013 so he can make a comparison. abby12 Sun, 04 Nov 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Debbie thank you for your reply, how did you find out about salvestrol? my husband has been seeing Karmal Karl in Napier (unsure if you have heard of him), he was diagnosed in March of this year after he was admitted to hospital with renal failure which they seem to think was caused by the prostate cancer, at that time his GFR was 4 and there was talk of Dialysis but his GFR has now risen to 20 and so long as he is careful with his diet and luck is on his side he should avoid it. As for the prostate cancer which is advanced with bone mets all that could be offered was hormone therapy, he has had 1 six month injection of eliguard and is due for another one now (which is in the fridge waiting to be taken to the GP) but he has decided that he doesn't want to continue down that track due to the side affects, He has no pain what so ever but does suffer chronic fatigue some of which will be related to the renal issue. Since he has been on the salvestrol (starting at 4,000 points a day and now on 12,000 points a day), there has been a signifigant change for the better it seems, his PSA which was 1170 in March  2012 when diagnosed was down to 32 two weeks ago and has been dropping at a steady rate every month. I did read in another of your posts that you have a brother with PC, is he on any alternate therapy? You have mentioned about Vit D levels, Rob had a blood test for that a couple of weeks ago as we had read up about how important it is to maintain that, still awaiting the results. Working toward your 95th Birthday is an excellent idea!!! and you are right cancer does not mean a death sentence although I do have to admit it does take everyone by surprise and a bit of getting used to. Cheers Kathy abby12 Sat, 03 Nov 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Kathy, I learnt about Iscador through reading Suzanne Somers books. By chance found Matthias Seidel in Tauranga my home town who is a German anthroposophical obstetrician / gynaecologist. In Germany and Switzerland about 60 percent of main stream cancer treated patients are given Iscador as adjuvant therapy with great success. In germany gynaecologistst treat all womens cancer as well hence his great knowledge about iscador. I have been on Iscador for two years now and think of it as an insurance policy. Very happy to talk further by email or phone. Message edited by CancerCompass staff. For personal protection,email address removed. Consider private reply. Please review CancerCompass Member Guidelines athttp://www.cancercompass.com/common/guidelines.html  . Salvestrols and Iscador, iodine and maintaining vit d levels are big factors in working toward my 95 th birthday. Given I turned 55 last week I have great plans for a long and healthy life. A cancer diagnosis is not a death sentence. It just creates a facet of life that has to be managed. Cheers Debbie DebCNZ Sat, 03 Nov 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Kathy, I learnt about Iscador through reading Suzanne Somers books. By chance found Matthias Seidel in Tauranga my home town who is a German anthroposophical obstetrician / gynaecologist. In Germany and Switzerland about 60 percent of main stream cancer treated patients are given Iscador as adjuvant therapy with great success. In germany gynaecologistst treat all womens cancer as well hence his great knowledge about iscador. I have been on Iscador for two years now and think of it as an insurance policy. Very happy to talk further by email or phone. Message edited by CancerCompass staff. For personal protection,email address removed. Consider private reply. Please review CancerCompass Member Guidelines athttp://www.cancercompass.com/common/guidelines.html  . Salvestrols and Iscador, iodine and maintaining vit d levels are big factors in working toward my 95 th birthday. Given I turned 55 last week I have great plans for a long and healthy life. A cancer diagnosis is not a death sentence. It just creates a facet of life that has to be managed. Cheers Debbie DebCNZ Sat, 03 Nov 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Debbie. I have just read your post with interest and note that you live in NZ, My husband is also on salvestrol as he has prostate cancer and his only treatment option is hormone therapy. I also see that you are on Iscador, I know of someone who has just started taking that but their cancer is in the late stages so it is a bit of wait and see. I am assumming that you are being treated by a natural therapist and would be interested in talking to you. we live in the Manawatu. Cheers Kathy abby12 Sat, 03 Nov 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Kerry. I am a breast cancer survivor in New Zealand and use Iscador which builds your immunity by boosting natural killer cells ( one of the white blood cells that 'Gobble up' cancer and abnormal cells) alongside salvestrols (2000 pts daily) and a collection of supplements including iodine astaxanthin indole3 in Clinicians womans hormone support blend. I can't see any conflict of Iscador with salvestrols based on Gerry potters advice that only vit b17 ( apricot kernels) and high levels of resveratrol ( and carbon monoxide from cigarette smoking) interfere with salvestrols action. I also have embraced coconut oil in my life. Anyone interested should read on the mercola website or just google 'benefits of coconut oil'. The most important thing is to get virgin coconut oil from a good source. My favourite is Celebes brand available in some health stores and online in nz from johnappleton.co.nz . Cheers. Debbie DebCNZ Thu, 01 Nov 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Oct 29, 2012 3:13 AM bundy wrote: Hi Pat   Yes I think it is helping a lot. I am not yet cured but I think I am on my way. My doctors a re amazed at how well I am going.   MarkGood for you Mark. Thanks for the update. Pat patromano Tue, 30 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hello Waterloo Don, Can you provide on update on your Salvestrol therapy? It's been 9 months since you began Salvestrols. Are you happy with the results? What dosage did you take and for what length of time? Did your PSA drop within 4 months?  Did you have combined therapy? Do I need to obtain the Navarro Urine Test from the Philippines or can it be done here in Ontario?  Also, can you recommend a good doctor in Ontario. My dad has a recurrence of prostate cancer after failed radiation and his next step is hormone therapy when his PSA reaches 10. We would like to delay/avoid that probability for as long as possible. His last PSA last month has creeped up towards 7.  Pat  patromano Tue, 30 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT Great news ! Also had great success with Salvestrols. Keep us posted. Peter peter1 Mon, 29 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Pat   Yes I think it is helping a lot. I am not yet cured but I think I am on my way. My doctors a re amazed at how well I am going.   Mark bundy Mon, 29 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT To Bundy, You had posted back in March that you were taking 12000 pts.of Salvestrol for 3 months. Did it help you? I'm thinking of having my dad start it for prostate cancer. Anyone else have any experience with it? Pat patromano Mon, 29 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Oct 11, 2012 2:32 PM kerdes wrote: My husband has stage 4 colon cancer with mets to liver and lungs.  He is currently seeing a ND and taking chemo once a week.  The following is a list of what he  is taking as supplements and his chemo regimen.  Could you tell me if he is getting enough salvestrols a day or should we add that too.   We are having a hard time lowering his fibrinogen level.His chemo is a low dose of Irinotecan for 4 weeks and off for two and on for four etc.supplements arelicorice extractisoquarcetin 18 dayteavigo (green tea extract) 21 daytaurox 12/daygrape pips 8/daylumbrokinase 9/dayHuang Lian (coptis root) 2tbsp/dayResveratrol High Potency 4/dayniatab 1/2 pill /dayRiboflavin 1/dayUbiquinol 1/dayAndrographis 10/dayHMB Plus 12/dayShark Liver Oil 12/dayDa Huang (rubarb root) 1/4-2 tsp. dayNettle Herb 20/dayGarlactive (garlic) 12/dayBCAA Powder 6 scoops/dayIP6 24/dayReishi 21/dayPlasmanex 2/daysuper biocurcumin 25/dayshark cartalidge 20/dayThanks, KerryDOes anyone know if it is okay to use salvestrols with iscador injections. Kerry kerdes Thu, 25 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Deb, I have been using tamoxifen with salvestrols. Have got into trouble as tamoxifen is not the best drug in the world, and it causes endometrial thickening, polyps, and cancer - there seems to be something better out there called indole 3 carbinole, that Gerry Potter suggested I take - the research seems to suggest it actually works better than tamoxifen. Might be worth checking out as I think it is useful in fighting cancer. From what I was told - by Dan Burke, whom I went to see talk in Galway - reservatrol (which is a salvestrol) works in low doses, but seems to be counter productive in high doses against cancer. He seemed to consider that the more recently researched salvestrols worked better. How the salvestrols work is on the internet and seems very logical. The nuisance is that it is slow. It seems to put the cancer cells to sleep first, and then knock them off as they grow. I would believe that one's belief systems have a lot to do with the immune system being able to knock off the cancer. There is a psychiatrist who has treated it as a psych problem and got very good results. I certainly know I have 'learnings' which have programmed me in a way which makes it difficult for my immune system to work properly. If anyone is interested there is a book called 'The Healing Codes' written by a mainline psych therapist, and a doctor who has a cancer clinic in the U S. I think it is excellent, and helps you unearth and deal with issues which are stressing the system and not allowing the immune system to get to work on the job in hand. Can do it by yourself and does not cost an arm and a leg! As you can imagine - I am going through a nasty divorce and this horrible cancer, so it's good to work on my issues of not having a voice, etc, - i am leaning on the methods and I think it is genuine stuff. I think it's about £10 on amazon. Best wishes to all, Jennette   jennette Thu, 25 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hello! Recently I posted about my mum who has  got throat cancer -stage 3(without metastases). She's  now on chemo therapie and radiation therapie!She's on cisplatin drug!This is the second week while she's on treatment.Must say-so far so good! She's taking salvestrol platinum twice a day..drinking lemon juice and also she's drinking once a day carrot/apple/and a little bit of beetroot juice!She's also taking life vitamins!Because she's on radiation treatment she's also using once a day salvestrol cream on the treated area! Today was her second chemo therapy and her bloodtests  are very good.The doctors told  us today that she's one of those rare people who will go through treatment without any problem.I know my mum-she's very sensitive!I think if I wouldn'tgive her salvestrol and vitamins she would be very sick! We didn't know that radiation treats also back of her neck so she didn't use salvestrol cream over that area..so she  felt pain over that area...now she uses salvestrol cream on that area for 3days now...and she says that pain is gone! Doctors says that my mum is doing very well..she's eating by her self...no pain at all...Doctors expect pain for her at the beginning of next week!Will see what will happen! I'll keep ya posted! Best of luck! Cynthiag Wed, 24 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi DebCNZ and all here, Can someone tell me if they have used salvestrols alone without any other treatments including hormone therapy ? If so, what were the results? How many capsules were taken and for what length of time? Was the PSA brought down? Was the PCa sent into remission? thanks to all who respond. patromano Wed, 24 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT true I dont really fry any of my food with oil. always use what works for you. ozzieme Fri, 19 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Oct 19, 2012 10:59 AM ozzieme wrote: there is very little to support the use of coconut oil over olive oil. In a study of 362 pancreatic cases and 1502 controls in italy, olive oil was found to have a comparatively more favorable impact on the risk of pancreatic cancer than other types of seasoning fats. Extra virgin olive oilis unique among plant-derived oils in that it provides both heart-healthy monounsaturated/polyunsaturated fats and a significant amount of bioactive antioxidant, anti-inflammatory polyphenols.Descri "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://polyphenols.Descri " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">polyphenols.Descri bed as “the most genuine component of the Mediterranean diet,”olive oil is now emerging as a critical component of a healthy diet. Research has demonstrated or suggested that olive oil polyphenols play an important role in protecting humans from heart disease, cancer, and age-related bone loss. These effects are due in part to synergistic activity among various natural polyphenols,which reduce inflammation and decrease oxidative stress, among other beneficial activities. Research also indicates that the combination ofomega-3 fatty acidswitholive oil polyphenolsoffers enhanced benefits, beyond those provided by either nutrient alone Epidemiological studies have long suggested that a Medi-terranean-style diet rich in olive oil is associated with a decreased risk of numerous types of cancer. Scientists have proposed that several constituents of olive oil may be responsible for its anti-cancer effects. These include its anti-oxidant polyphenols as well as the lipid oleic acid, which is highly resistant to peroxidation. Recently, oncology researchers were excited to discover that oleic acid, the main monounsaturated fatty acid in olive oil, may fight cancer by interacting with the human genome. Oleic acid actually works to suppress the over-expression of a well-characterized oncogene that plays a key role in the etiology, invasive progression, and metastasis of several human cancers.This "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://cancers.This " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">cancers.This remarkable finding could lead to the development of novel olive-oil-based cancer therapeutics. Olive oil may help to protect against ulcers and stomach cancer by fighting Helicobacter pylori. Found in the stomach’s lining, H. pylori is a species of bacteria that has been linked to peptic (esophagus, stomach, or duodenum) ulcers and gastric (stomach) cancer.Prelim "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://cancer.Prelim " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">cancer.Prelim inary research showed that virgin olive oil contains compounds that exert “strong bactericidal activity against eight strains of Helicobacter pylori, three of which are resistant to some anti-biotics. These results open the possibility of considering virgin olive oil a chemopreventive agent for peptic ulcer or gastric cancer,” reported the researchers. I know olive oil is EXCELLENT, however not when heated to high temperatures and should be consumed due to all the health benefits, but not use heated. the mediteranian use it cold on foods I think. I only mentioned used for cooking. samoyed1 Fri, 19 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT there is very little to support the use of coconut oil over olive oil. In a study of 362 pancreatic cases and 1502 controls in italy, olive oil was found to have a comparatively more favorable impact on the risk of pancreatic cancer than other types of seasoning fats. Extra virgin olive oilis unique among plant-derived oils in that it provides both heart-healthy monounsaturated/polyunsaturated fats and a significant amount of bioactive antioxidant, anti-inflammatory polyphenols.Descri bed as “the most genuine component of the Mediterranean diet,”olive oil is now emerging as a critical component of a healthy diet. Research has demonstrated or suggested that olive oil polyphenols play an important role in protecting humans from heart disease, cancer, and age-related bone loss. These effects are due in part to synergistic activity among various natural polyphenols,which reduce inflammation and decrease oxidative stress, among other beneficial activities. Research also indicates that the combination ofomega-3 fatty acidswitholive oil polyphenolsoffers enhanced benefits, beyond those provided by either nutrient alone Epidemiological studies have long suggested that a Medi-terranean-style diet rich in olive oil is associated with a decreased risk of numerous types of cancer. Scientists have proposed that several constituents of olive oil may be responsible for its anti-cancer effects. These include its anti-oxidant polyphenols as well as the lipid oleic acid, which is highly resistant to peroxidation. Recently, oncology researchers were excited to discover that oleic acid, the main monounsaturated fatty acid in olive oil, may fight cancer by interacting with the human genome. Oleic acid actually works to suppress the over-expression of a well-characterized oncogene that plays a key role in the etiology, invasive progression, and metastasis of several human cancers.This remarkable finding could lead to the development of novel olive-oil-based cancer therapeutics. Olive oil may help to protect against ulcers and stomach cancer by fighting Helicobacter pylori. Found in the stomach’s lining, H. pylori is a species of bacteria that has been linked to peptic (esophagus, stomach, or duodenum) ulcers and gastric (stomach) cancer.Prelim inary research showed that virgin olive oil contains compounds that exert “strong bactericidal activity against eight strains of Helicobacter pylori, three of which are resistant to some anti-biotics. These results open the possibility of considering virgin olive oil a chemopreventive agent for peptic ulcer or gastric cancer,” reported the researchers. ozzieme Fri, 19 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Oct 19, 2012 1:54 AM ozzieme wrote: On Oct 15, 2012 9:36 PM kerdes wrote: On Oct 12, 2012 10:15 AM ozzieme wrote: To reduce fibrinogen levels try fibrinogen resist with nattokinase from lef it's a great product its what I use in my clinic. Regarding the salvestrol levels in what your taking most Likely your only getting a small amount from the resveratrol I use the resveratrol with pterostilbene remember some times a high quality supplement or extract can make all the difference in your protocol. I have gone back using resveratrol over salvestrol.How much of the fibringen resist so you suggest he take?  His ND said he has used nattokinase without much luck, but he suggests trying the product you suggested, he has no experience with it and is interested to see if it would help.  He is taking other things for fibrinogen but it is still on the rise.  Do you recommend a vegetarian diet to your cancer patients? Kerryhi sorry for the delay in getting back but I have been busy with my clinic. I would use 1 tablet 2 times per day of the Fibrinogen Resist with Nattokinase. you could also try 81mg per day of aspirin. as well as many other things that can reduce fibrinogen like: bromelain EFA garlic Ginkgo Biloba Green Tea Gugulipid niacin vitamin A and C there are also a number of other nutrients that can assist in thinning of the blood and opposing platelet aggregation such as: aspirin Beta Carotene Co Enzyme Q10 Curcumin Fish Oil Flaxseed oil garlic Kyolic ginger magnesium olive leaf extract pantethine policosanol proanthocyanidins selenium tocotrienols vitamin E you can also try the prescription drug pentoxifylline this will help to lower ribrinogen levels is supplements fail, the does would be 400mg twice a day. regarding the vegetarian diet for cancer patients, I dont recommend a vegetarian diet but..... I you should clean up your diet as much as you can eat a mix of fruit and veggies and cut back on meat and fats, reduce fast foods and use better oils for cooking such as olive oils. Just eat good foods you know are good for you try and eat some more chicken and fish with lots of veggies and reduce sugar and softdrinks. as for the question about Resveratrol I use Life Extension, Optimized Resveratrol with Synergistic Grape-Berry Actives, 250 mg 1 tablet per day should be good for most people. I think that answered all the questions.From what I have read, olive oil cooked is very bad and should not be used for cooking. Coconut oil is much safer at high temperatures and the only oil I use for cooking now. samoyed1 Fri, 19 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Oct 19, 2012 1:54 AM ozzieme wrote: On Oct 15, 2012 9:36 PM kerdes wrote: On Oct 12, 2012 10:15 AM ozzieme wrote: To reduce fibrinogen levels try fibrinogen resist with nattokinase from lef it's a great product its what I use in my clinic. Regarding the salvestrol levels in what your taking most Likely your only getting a small amount from the resveratrol I use the resveratrol with pterostilbene remember some times a high quality supplement or extract can make all the difference in your protocol. I have gone back using resveratrol over salvestrol.How much of the fibringen resist so you suggest he take?  His ND said he has used nattokinase without much luck, but he suggests trying the product you suggested, he has no experience with it and is interested to see if it would help.  He is taking other things for fibrinogen but it is still on the rise.  Do you recommend a vegetarian diet to your cancer patients? Kerryhi sorry for the delay in getting back but I have been busy with my clinic. I would use 1 tablet 2 times per day of the Fibrinogen Resist with Nattokinase. you could also try 81mg per day of aspirin. as well as many other things that can reduce fibrinogen like: bromelain EFA garlic Ginkgo Biloba Green Tea Gugulipid niacin vitamin A and C there are also a number of other nutrients that can assist in thinning of the blood and opposing platelet aggregation such as: aspirin Beta Carotene Co Enzyme Q10 Curcumin Fish Oil Flaxseed oil garlic Kyolic ginger magnesium olive leaf extract pantethine policosanol proanthocyanidins selenium tocotrienols vitamin E you can also try the prescription drug pentoxifylline this will help to lower ribrinogen levels is supplements fail, the does would be 400mg twice a day. regarding the vegetarian diet for cancer patients, I dont recommend a vegetarian diet but..... I you should clean up your diet as much as you can eat a mix of fruit and veggies and cut back on meat and fats, reduce fast foods and use better oils for cooking such as olive oils. Just eat good foods you know are good for you try and eat some more chicken and fish with lots of veggies and reduce sugar and softdrinks. as for the question about Resveratrol I use Life Extension, Optimized Resveratrol with Synergistic Grape-Berry Actives, 250 mg 1 tablet per day should be good for most people. I think that answered all the questions.Thanks so much for all your help. Kerry kerdes Fri, 19 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Oct 15, 2012 9:36 PM kerdes wrote: On Oct 12, 2012 10:15 AM ozzieme wrote: To reduce fibrinogen levels try fibrinogen resist with nattokinase from lef it's a great product its what I use in my clinic. Regarding the salvestrol levels in what your taking most Likely your only getting a small amount from the resveratrol I use the resveratrol with pterostilbene remember some times a high quality supplement or extract can make all the difference in your protocol. I have gone back using resveratrol over salvestrol.How much of the fibringen resist so you suggest he take?  His ND said he has used nattokinase without much luck, but he suggests trying the product you suggested, he has no experience with it and is interested to see if it would help.  He is taking other things for fibrinogen but it is still on the rise.  Do you recommend a vegetarian diet to your cancer patients? Kerryhi sorry for the delay in getting back but I have been busy with my clinic. I would use 1 tablet 2 times per day of the Fibrinogen Resist with Nattokinase. you could also try 81mg per day of aspirin. as well as many other things that can reduce fibrinogen like: bromelain EFA garlic Ginkgo Biloba Green Tea Gugulipid niacin vitamin A and C there are also a number of other nutrients that can assist in thinning of the blood and opposing platelet aggregation such as: aspirin Beta Carotene Co Enzyme Q10 Curcumin Fish Oil Flaxseed oil garlic Kyolic ginger magnesium olive leaf extract pantethine policosanol proanthocyanidins selenium tocotrienols vitamin E you can also try the prescription drug pentoxifylline this will help to lower ribrinogen levels is supplements fail, the does would be 400mg twice a day. regarding the vegetarian diet for cancer patients, I dont recommend a vegetarian diet but..... I you should clean up your diet as much as you can eat a mix of fruit and veggies and cut back on meat and fats, reduce fast foods and use better oils for cooking such as olive oils. Just eat good foods you know are good for you try and eat some more chicken and fish with lots of veggies and reduce sugar and softdrinks. as for the question about Resveratrol I use Life Extension, Optimized Resveratrol with Synergistic Grape-Berry Actives, 250 mg 1 tablet per day should be good for most people. I think that answered all the questions. ozzieme Fri, 19 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi   If you google salvestrols case studies you should find a few. Admittidly there is not to much also you could try salvacare biotechnoligies.   Mark bundy Tue, 16 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Oct 15, 2012 9:36 PM kerdes wrote: On Oct 12, 2012 10:15 AM ozzieme wrote: To reduce fibrinogen levels try fibrinogen resist with nattokinase from lef it's a great product its what I use in my clinic. Regarding the salvestrol levels in what your taking most Likely your only getting a small amount from the resveratrol I use the resveratrol with pterostilbene remember some times a high quality supplement or extract can make all the difference in your protocol. I have gone back using resveratrol over salvestrol.How much of the fibringen resist so you suggest he take?  His ND said he has used nattokinase without much luck, but he suggests trying the product you suggested, he has no experience with it and is interested to see if it would help.  He is taking other things for fibrinogen but it is still on the rise.  Do you recommend a vegetarian diet to your cancer patients? KerryHow much of the resveratrol that you use do you recommend? kerdes Tue, 16 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Oct 12, 2012 10:15 AM ozzieme wrote: To reduce fibrinogen levels try fibrinogen resist with nattokinase from lef it's a great product its what I use in my clinic. Regarding the salvestrol levels in what your taking most Likely your only getting a small amount from the resveratrol I use the resveratrol with pterostilbene remember some times a high quality supplement or extract can make all the difference in your protocol. I have gone back using resveratrol over salvestrol.How much of the fibringen resist so you suggest he take?  His ND said he has used nattokinase without much luck, but he suggests trying the product you suggested, he has no experience with it and is interested to see if it would help.  He is taking other things for fibrinogen but it is still on the rise.  Do you recommend a vegetarian diet to your cancer patients? Kerry kerdes Mon, 15 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Oct 13, 2012 5:10 AM bundy wrote: Hi   There are some case studies done on the salvestrol therapy with colon cancer that have had really good results. The resveratrol as I am aware is in the salvestrol as well as other potent salvestrols that combine to produce very strong anti cancer metabolites.Can you point us to the results of these "case studies" please. Thanks Clubcar Mon, 15 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT If he is taking low dose of irinitecan, how much salvestrol should he take? Kerry kerdes Mon, 15 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi   There are some case studies done on the salvestrol therapy with colon cancer that have had really good results. The resveratrol as I am aware is in the salvestrol as well as other potent salvestrols that combine to produce very strong anti cancer metabolites. bundy Sat, 13 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Oct 12, 2012 4:21 PM kerdes wrote: He is currently taking Lumbrokinase at 9 a day.  Here is the link to it  http://www.pureformulas.com/lumbrokinase-60-capsules-by-alle rgy-research-group.html"" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.pureformulas.com/lumbrokinase-60-capsules-by-alle target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.pureformulas.com/lumbrokinase-60-capsules-by-alle THe resveratrol he is taking is by Vital Nutrients at 4 a day.  Her is the link   http://www.pureformulas.com/resveratrol-500mg-60-capsules-by -vital-nutrients.html"" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.pureformulas.com/resveratrol-500mg-60-capsules-by target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.pureformulas.com/resveratrol-500mg-60-capsules-by Would the reveratrol help with fibrinogen? Do you think these brands and amounts are enough?  Most of the levels the ND has tested for such as Il6, Il8, Il0, C-reactive protein, etc.  Have come down and some have returned to normal, but the fibrinogen had come down about 6 weeks ago, but has started to creep up again and is still going up along with d-dimmer.  ND thinks they have already become resistant to what he is taking.  Do you think the lumbrokinase is similar to what you suggested, or should we try what you recommeded? He has also suggested IV selenium along with iscador.  Thanks so much, KerrySelenium (as Se-Methyl L-Selenocysteine) is better then normal selenium is very good I don't really see a need for it via iv if you use Selenium (as Se-Methyl L-Selenocysteine) I don't use iscador. ozzieme Sat, 13 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT First of all I think your paying too much for your supplements try iherb.com they are cheaper. I think salvestrols are over rated I used them on a colon cancer patient for a few months and went back to resveratrols. I dont really want to step on the toes of your ND you should ask him/her what they think about salvestrols and about the product I recommended for fibrinogen levels. You should work closely with your ND to develop a treatment protocol and if needed eating/diet plan to make sure your eating right. ozzieme Sat, 13 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT Just the resveratrol would be considered a salvestrol I think, but he is not taking much of that.  Could someone explain to me how salvestrols work.  Right now I have been looking at numbers such as Il8,6,and 10, c-reactive proteins, fibrinogen and d-dimmer, etc.  We haven't had any success keeping the fibrinogen and d-dimmer down.  It went down for a short while and then right back uup.  My understanding is that he is at risk for blood clots and that the cancer cells are being protected by the fibrinogen.  How exactly does salvestrols work on getting to the cancer cells and how much should be taken with chemo and everything else he is taking? Thanks to anyone who can and is helping. Kerry kerdes Fri, 12 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Kerry   It seems that you are not using salvestrols at all in amongst all those other things?   Mark bundy Fri, 12 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT If you think these things would help, how many should he be taking? Kerry kerdes Fri, 12 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT He is currently taking Lumbrokinase at 9 a day.  Here is the link to it  http://www.pureformulas.com/lumbrokinase-60-capsules-by-alle THe resveratrol he is taking is by Vital Nutrients at 4 a day.  Her is the link   http://www.pureformulas.com/resveratrol-500mg-60-capsules-by Would the reveratrol help with fibrinogen? Do you think these brands and amounts are enough?  Most of the levels the ND has tested for such as Il6, Il8, Il0, C-reactive protein, etc.  Have come down and some have returned to normal, but the fibrinogen had come down about 6 weeks ago, but has started to creep up again and is still going up along with d-dimmer.  ND thinks they have already become resistant to what he is taking.  Do you think the lumbrokinase is similar to what you suggested, or should we try what you recommeded? He has also suggested IV selenium along with iscador.  Thanks so much, Kerry kerdes Fri, 12 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT To reduce fibrinogen levels try fibrinogen resist with nattokinase from lef it's a great product its what I use in my clinic. Regarding the salvestrol levels in what your taking most Likely your only getting a small amount from the resveratrol I use the resveratrol with pterostilbene remember some times a high quality supplement or extract can make all the difference in your protocol. I have gone back using resveratrol over salvestrol. ozzieme Fri, 12 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT My husband has stage 4 colon cancer with mets to liver and lungs.  He is currently seeing a ND and taking chemo once a week.  The following is a list of what he  is taking as supplements and his chemo regimen.  Could you tell me if he is getting enough salvestrols a day or should we add that too.   We are having a hard time lowering his fibrinogen level.His chemo is a low dose of Irinotecan for 4 weeks and off for two and on for four etc.supplements arelicorice extractisoquarcetin 18 dayteavigo (green tea extract) 21 daytaurox 12/daygrape pips 8/daylumbrokinase 9/dayHuang Lian (coptis root) 2tbsp/dayResveratrol High Potency 4/dayniatab 1/2 pill /dayRiboflavin 1/dayUbiquinol 1/dayAndrographis 10/dayHMB Plus 12/dayShark Liver Oil 12/dayDa Huang (rubarb root) 1/4-2 tsp. dayNettle Herb 20/dayGarlactive (garlic) 12/dayBCAA Powder 6 scoops/dayIP6 24/dayReishi 21/dayPlasmanex 2/daysuper biocurcumin 25/dayshark cartalidge 20/dayThanks, Kerry kerdes Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT I truly do not know about the cream. Best you ask the manufacturers. Best of luck. peter1 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hello again! My mother has got throat cancer-advanced(No metastases) She's taking salvestrol 2000 per day..next week she will start her chemo and radiation theraphies! I was wondering can she put on also  salvestrol cream on her throat where the tumor is whith salvestrol platinium 2000 while she's on chemo and radiation theraphies? Cynthiag Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT I am surprised, but glad to hear all this. I was told implicitly by prof Dan Burke NOT to use any flax seed oil and to avoid most nuts ! I have stuck to this regime, and can say that I have had great success with Salvestrols. Will remember what you have reported for the future, although I will personally stick to my regime and supplements as they have worked so well for me. Peter peter1 Wed, 10 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Oct 09, 2012 6:28 AM peter1 wrote: On Oct 08, 2012 11:44 PM samoyed1 wrote: On Oct 08, 2012 4:03 PM peter1 wrote: I am sorry to hear about your mum's diagnosis, but glad to hear that you have found Salvestrol as I have personally experienced great success with the product. She must NOT use it with apricot kernals as that is one of the few things that will render it inefficient. It is the Laetrile (also know as Amygdlain or as vit B17) that will block it's efficiency. No nuts, flax seed, etc. She needs to take a good multivitamin containing Niasin, Selenium, Biotin, VitC, Magnesium, etc. I think that Salvestrol Platinium should be at about 4000 - 6000 points daily. Hope all goes well. PeterNuts and Flax oil is actually fine to use, its just the apricot kernels. The amount in normal foods such as flax and nuts is tiny and will not effect it. I asked him at the time. I take flax seed and quark (budwig) and eat lots of nuts but have removed the apricot kernels.I was using flax oil and was told implicitly by prof Dan Burke to stop as it would prevent the Salvestrols from having the correct impact on the cancer cells. He said most nuts should not be eaten while on salvestrol, as they have the same effect as apricot kernels. Suggest you speak to him.Hi I have also emailed the company to check and recieved this respons, so yes nuts and flax are compatable and safe to take whilst consuming salvestols. Food, such as flax or nuts, does not present a problem unless very large quantities are being consumed. this was sent from the company here http://www.salvestrol.ca/index.asp also found this Some foods contain low levels of B17 and this does not effect the activity of the salvestrols. It is only high levels of B17 such as found in B17 supplements or apricot kernels that should be avoided. http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,65275 I also asked Gerry on his blog and recieved this reply "Flax seed oil and seeds and nuts do not interfere with the Salvestrols and are OK to take alongside them. Flax seed is part of the Budwig diet which some cancer patients follow as well as taking salvestrols.It is only concentrated B17 supplements that should be avoided which are otherwise known as Amygdalin and Laetrile." http://salvestrolinfo.blogspot.com.au/2012/05/salvestrol-enh samoyed1 Tue, 09 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Oct 09, 2012 6:28 AM peter1 wrote: On Oct 08, 2012 11:44 PM samoyed1 wrote: On Oct 08, 2012 4:03 PM peter1 wrote: I am sorry to hear about your mum's diagnosis, but glad to hear that you have found Salvestrol as I have personally experienced great success with the product. She must NOT use it with apricot kernals as that is one of the few things that will render it inefficient. It is the Laetrile (also know as Amygdlain or as vit B17) that will block it's efficiency. No nuts, flax seed, etc. She needs to take a good multivitamin containing Niasin, Selenium, Biotin, VitC, Magnesium, etc. I think that Salvestrol Platinium should be at about 4000 - 6000 points daily. Hope all goes well. PeterNuts and Flax oil is actually fine to use, its just the apricot kernels. The amount in normal foods such as flax and nuts is tiny and will not effect it. I asked him at the time. I take flax seed and quark (budwig) and eat lots of nuts but have removed the apricot kernels.I was using flax oil and was told implicitly by prof Dan Burke to stop as it would prevent the Salvestrols from having the correct impact on the cancer cells. He said most nuts should not be eaten while on salvestrol, as they have the same effect as apricot kernels. Suggest you speak to him.I asked Jerry Potter who made the formula? I have also read it here "It is only concentrated supplements of B17 that should be avoided when taking salvestrols. Dietary sources such as flax seed do not interfere with the salvestrols and are OK to take alongside them. Many cancer patients use flax seed as part of their anticancer diet and this seems to work well in combination with salvestrols." http://salvestrolinfo.blogspot.com.au/2012/05/salvestrol-enh samoyed1 Tue, 09 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Oct 08, 2012 11:44 PM samoyed1 wrote: On Oct 08, 2012 4:03 PM peter1 wrote: I am sorry to hear about your mum's diagnosis, but glad to hear that you have found Salvestrol as I have personally experienced great success with the product. She must NOT use it with apricot kernals as that is one of the few things that will render it inefficient. It is the Laetrile (also know as Amygdlain or as vit B17) that will block it's efficiency. No nuts, flax seed, etc. She needs to take a good multivitamin containing Niasin, Selenium, Biotin, VitC, Magnesium, etc. I think that Salvestrol Platinium should be at about 4000 - 6000 points daily. Hope all goes well. PeterNuts and Flax oil is actually fine to use, its just the apricot kernels. The amount in normal foods such as flax and nuts is tiny and will not effect it. I asked him at the time. I take flax seed and quark (budwig) and eat lots of nuts but have removed the apricot kernels.I was using flax oil and was told implicitly by prof Dan Burke to stop as it would prevent the Salvestrols from having the correct impact on the cancer cells. He said most nuts should not be eaten while on salvestrol, as they have the same effect as apricot kernels. Suggest you speak to him. peter1 Tue, 09 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Oct 08, 2012 4:03 PM peter1 wrote: I am sorry to hear about your mum's diagnosis, but glad to hear that you have found Salvestrol as I have personally experienced great success with the product. She must NOT use it with apricot kernals as that is one of the few things that will render it inefficient. It is the Laetrile (also know as Amygdlain or as vit B17) that will block it's efficiency. No nuts, flax seed, etc. She needs to take a good multivitamin containing Niasin, Selenium, Biotin, VitC, Magnesium, etc. I think that Salvestrol Platinium should be at about 4000 - 6000 points daily. Hope all goes well. PeterNuts and Flax oil is actually fine to use, its just the apricot kernels. The amount in normal foods such as flax and nuts is tiny and will not effect it. I asked him at the time. I take flax seed and quark (budwig) and eat lots of nuts but have removed the apricot kernels. samoyed1 Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT As far as I am aware, they usually drop the dosage of Salvestrol to about 1 x daily while on chemo. She would then also need to take a good multivitamin. After chemo, I would suggest she take 3 x daily with multi vit. Best of luck and please do keep us posted on your mum's progress. peter1 Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT 'She needs to take a good multivitamin containing Niasin, Selenium, Biotin, VitC, Magnesium, etc. I was just wondering can she take those with slavestrol while she's on chemo and radiation therapy? Cynthiag Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT Thank you very..very much for the advise! Best of luck :)! Cynthiag Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT I am sorry to hear about your mum's diagnosis, but glad to hear that you have found Salvestrol as I have personally experienced great success with the product. She must NOT use it with apricot kernals as that is one of the few things that will render it inefficient. It is the Laetrile (also know as Amygdlain or as vit B17) that will block it's efficiency. No nuts, flax seed, etc. She needs to take a good multivitamin containing Niasin, Selenium, Biotin, VitC, Magnesium, etc. I think that Salvestrol Platinium should be at about 4000 - 6000 points daily. Hope all goes well. Peter peter1 Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hello! Recently my mother was diagnosed with throat cancer!Luckuly it's not spread out but it is quite large! It's in 3rt stage-advanced cancer! Now for about a month we are drinking fresh raw juices and taking apricot kernells(21 at the moment per day)..also we tried Rife machine.....and she's drinking every day  organic green tea also she takes 3 tsp of maple syrup and backing soda! Couple of days ago she started to use Salvestrol platinum!She takes it one per day! Next week she will start her chemo and radiation theraphies! I was wondering can she take Salvestrol  with apricot kernels and fresh juices while she's on chemo and radiation therapies? I also want her to take lemon water juice while she's on chemo-so that will alkaline her body! We will not go to on Rife machine while she's on chemo!And she won't drink green tea while she's on chemo..because antioxidants will flush out chemo! But i was wondering can she take any other suppliments that we use at the moment while she is on therapies? I want make her chemo more affective to cancer so that we can destroy it! Cynthiag Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT Great news ! If the success that I am having with Salvestrol is anything to go on, I would recommend any body needing it should continue. I can truly say that it has prevented further spread of Hemangiosarcoma which is a vicious tumour. Peter peter1 Sun, 07 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT Thank you for the reply, my husband is getting blood tests done this week so we will see if his levels are still coming down. He definitley looks better and walking between 4-5km a day, he has also altered his diet quite a bit and no longer eating red meat. keep in touch with how you are going. abby12 Sun, 07 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Sep 30, 2012 2:25 AM abby12 wrote: Hi just wondered how you are all going with the Salvestrol, my husband has advanced prostate cancer with bone mets he has been on Salvestrol (taking 6000 points a day) for 8 weeks and so far things are looking promising.Hi Abby, To the touch, my tumor seems to be shrinking and I'll be tested in a couple of weeks. I'll post the results asap. I take 6 to 9000 units a day. :) bigsky20 Mon, 01 Oct 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Peter, I will certainly run your results past my vet. I dont know why but vets seem more open minded than doctors! I dont know how I am - my next scan is not until nov/dec. But so far every scan has shown shrinkage. I am still on the tamoxifen as well. I certainly think the stress I am going through would not have allowed me to survive if not for salvestrols - am going through a very upsetting divorce - which is happening at the beginning of Nov. It has been hard to see something to live for. J jennette Sun, 30 Sep 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi just wondered how you are all going with the Salvestrol, my husband has advanced prostate cancer with bone mets he has been on Salvestrol (taking 6000 points a day) for 8 weeks and so far things are looking promising. abby12 Sun, 30 Sep 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Jennette  All a great pleasure. I have huge faith in Salvestrols. I think their efficiency will depend on the stage of cancer present, and the supplements / diet that one chooses. I am using 3 x 2000 points daily with supplements as per Dan Burke. Also have Chart on a high protein / low carb diet, and the results are fantastic. So far NO sign that the tumour has spread, and it is known as the worst canine tumour possible. My vet is staggered at what I have managed by using Salvestrol. Chat soon. Kind regards Peter peter1 Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Levoo, How are you all? which country are you in? You could look at RGCC research-genlab.com . The test seems amazing and medical people here seem impressed by it. I dont know whether insulin potentiated chemo is available near you. It is just so much more effective than normal chemo and less of a strain on the body. Very best wishes Jennette   jennette Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Peter, Thank you so much for posting your success story. It is so encouraging to hear how your dog was healed. Best wishes, Jennette jennette Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi All Just want to let you all know what my experience of Salvestrol has been.   My beloved German Shpherd dog was diagnosed with Hemangiosarcoma on 1 June this year. This is a vicious and fast moving cancer. He had his spleen removed, but the surgeon (top vet), told me that the best he could offer was 3 months for Chart. I has horrified. Long storey cut short, I discovered Salvestrols. Discussed the matter with Prof Dan Burke, and started Chart on 2 x 2000 points daily. Upped it to 3 x 2000 points daily a month later. Had thorough blood tests and all ink stain cancer tests 2 weeks ago. The vet is in disbelief as there is NO sign of the cancer at all. He checked specific enyzmes and ooked for immature red blood cells that would be produced by the bone marrow should the cancer have continued. Not a thing visible. He was astounded. As Chart had to have his spleen removed with the tumour after he haemoraged, there are no red cells being made by the spleen any longer. I can only say that I am CONVINCED that Salvestrols have given us this wonderful news. We have a another 2 months to go as 6 months would have been the max length of time that a dog with Hemangiosarcoma could live, but i am most positive that we have cracked this one. Hope this gives many people the positive encouragement that I personally feel Salvestrols offer. Look forward to hearing more success stories. Regards Peter peter1 Tue, 25 Sep 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Jun 05, 2012 8:03 AM bundy wrote: Hi   Hey wow thats great that your dad enjoyed a proper meal. I am happy about that. I didnt do salvestrols alone but in my case I was told after my chemo that my cancers had continued to grow and that it had not worked. So my oncologist told me that I was to be put forward for a new drug on compassionate grounds. So I started on the salvestrols while my application was processed, What actually happened tho is that cause my application was done over the Xmas period my Onc forgot to send it before he went away for 5 weeks. So when I saw him after Xmas he was very apoligetic. So the process had to all start again!!!!! Fortunately I had been on salvestrols this whole time and was feeling much much better. So another three weeks later I was finally accepted for the new drug. I asked if I could wait till after another scan before I started as it was pretty close to that time anyway. Which he thought was reasonable as I had no more pain and my energy levels were far higher. After the scan I got a call as he was so happy to tell me that my bone mets appeared to be healing!!!!! He was pretty amazed. So I think the salvestrols are really helping me. I have another scan next week. CT. I willpost my results to you I hope they are good. I still feel well and still have no pain. You have to realise before Xmas I couldn lift myself in my seat. I have a long way to go but one trhing is my quality of life is great!!!!!!!!father suffering from neuroendocrine tumour 1v stage...pllllll help how many capsules of solvestrol to be given daily..pllllllll help.God bless vimmibhullar Tue, 25 Sep 2012 00:00:00 GMT You are amazing! If you look back through these messages you can find Gerry Potter talking about what else you should be taking with the salvestrols. One is Niacin. The other thing the cells need is oxygen so smoking out, Vit C in. Since the salvestrols depend on CYP1B1 worth increasing this - can do this by taking StJohn's Wort. All I know is that my cancers seem to reducing - Best wishes Jennette jennette Wed, 29 Aug 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Levent, There is a clinic in Greece which checks through all the chemo drugs against the cancer. It is a new way of doing things - very logical! - but does not seem to be known about by most doctors. Test costs $2,500 dollars I believe. Can give further details if interested. Jennette     jennette Wed, 29 Aug 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi - 'carcinogen' is homeopathic and you can only get it by going to a homeopath. I am taking it! Best wishes Jennette jennette Wed, 29 Aug 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hello again Jenette, I can't seem to find the carcinogen product. Do you happen to have a link for it? Wishing you all the best     bigsky20 Tue, 28 Aug 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Aug 28, 2012 9:45 AM jennette wrote: Hi bigsky, Really interested to hear someone out there is doing the same as me! I dont understand what Q40 is, I am sorry. Look up indole3carbinole as that seems to work with tamoxifen to make it more effective. There is research showing that coQ10  at high doses get rid of breast tumours - and of course - the research on VitD and cancer, so keep the vit D up. Are you taking the krill oil? - there is research on that stopping metasteses. If you run with homeopathy, there are remedies like carcinogen which you might find worth taking. Then of course, there is the good old multivite, to provide the niacin, etc gerry potter talks about. Please keep in touch and let me know how you are. Best wishes, Jennette  Hi Jinette, The Q40 is one of the salvestrols in salvestrol platinum. I believe that there are four altogether and two of them go through the blood brain barrier. I'm all into bioavailability of supplements now, so I'm always looking for other ways to enhance a product. I do need to start taking indole and thank you for all your advice! I take d3, krill, bioavailable curcumin, fulvic acid minerals, salvestrols, Garden of Life whole food raw vitamins and a few not so importants. I also buy organic oranges, lemons and limes and about every other day, I blend some of the skins with the rinds in my vitamix blender. The skins also have salvestrols. I'm also eating gluten free and juicing. Hopefully, I can keep it all up! Of course, the key to it all is the salvestrols and I'm so happy that I know about them. I will be sure to keep in touch. :) bigsky20 Tue, 28 Aug 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi bigsky, Really interested to hear someone out there is doing the same as me! I dont understand what Q40 is, I am sorry. Look up indole3carbinole as that seems to work with tamoxifen to make it more effective. There is research showing that coQ10  at high doses get rid of breast tumours - and of course - the research on VitD and cancer, so keep the vit D up. Are you taking the krill oil? - there is research on that stopping metasteses. If you run with homeopathy, there are remedies like carcinogen which you might find worth taking. Then of course, there is the good old multivite, to provide the niacin, etc gerry potter talks about. Please keep in touch and let me know how you are. Best wishes, Jennette   jennette Tue, 28 Aug 2012 00:00:00 GMT On May 02, 2012 5:30 PM jennette wrote: Side effects tamoxifen - memory/thinking problems, soreness ovaries/womb. Had other probs as well - tiredness etc but they seem to be balanced by the sage and eve prim. Letzo - pains in muscles/joints. skin really really dry/ burning. Dizziness and not feeling 'quite there'. Tiredness. I took tamoxifen sept '11 - jan '12. The surgeon considered just by looking and palpating the breast it was much better. But on the scan there was little reduction - obviously, on the one plane. I changed to the letzo then, hoping for better results and took this for about 6 -8wks till skin driving me mad. Started taking salvestrols 18th Feb 2012. The last scan showed one of the tumours reducing by half, one reducing slightly, and the other showed great 'thinning' of the tumour, although it was the same length. Gerry, I went to see Dan talking in Galway as I wanted to ask him questions. What I was picking up was that the cancers were being 'put to sleep' - not killed, but deactivated... It seemed that they almost waited then to be reabsorbed by the body. I am using the liposomal vit c in short bursts with chlorella, and I think this has some effect - whether it oxygenates the cancer cells? - but it seems hard on my system and makes me feel like I felt for the first week or two when I was on the high dose salvestrol. Sorry - yes, I definately think there has been a huge diff since taking the salvestrols. Objectively this seems to be the case, looking at the scans. Gerry - before I took them I could here the cancer 'voice' very strongly - it really wanted to live -but then it just became quiet. My cranio believes it's a 60% tamoxifen, 40% salvestrols in the shrinkage. Thanks for the advice re indoles. Have been scrunching raw broccoli but will get supplement! Best wishes  JennetteHi, My breast tumor shrank with tamoxifen before starting on salvestrols. I was on tamoxifen for 3 months when shrinkage was detected. I started salvestrols on my 4th month.  My tamoxifen dosage is 20 mg and I'm taking 6000 pts. I might push it up to 9000 points. An ultra-sound is scheduled in two months and I'll let you all know my results as soon as I get them. I do have one question though. Is there anything that I can take to make the Q40 more bioavailable? bigsky20 Mon, 27 Aug 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi, my grandmother isn't using Gallium. You can google it and find the good news about it. There are also studies on PubMed  best wishes  andy73 Sun, 26 Aug 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Aug 23, 2012 2:24 PM andy73 wrote: Hi Levent  In addiition to Salvestrol (my grandmother is using Salvestrol) have you looked into Gallium ?   Studies show it's very good for Brain C, prevention and treatment  Hi Andy, Thanks for the advice. To be frank with you I haven't heard about Gallium before. I'll definitely check. Is your grandmother using gallium? I'll appreciate if you can give some info regarding gallium. By the way, a quick update regarding my mom. She had a PET scan few days ago. The scan shows that her condition is stable now. We were very surprised since her C was very aggressive. The scan shows that her tumors are around the same size but retention of radioactive glucose by the tumors is reduced. I don't know if this is due to salvestrols or not but I know something is working. levoo1979 Sat, 25 Aug 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Levent  In addiition to Salvestrol (my grandmother is using Salvestrol) have you looked into Gallium ?   Studies show it's very good for Brain C, prevention and treatment  andy73 Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Agu 15, 2012 7:15 jennette wrote: Dear Levoo, How is your mother - I do hope she is getting better. Thank you for your reply. I am good - as the radiologist says - something is working. The surgeon says this is the tamoxifen working - but all I can say is that the tumours are thinning and shrinking, and I feel a lot better. My friend hopes to show the results of her brothers treatment in New York to oncologists here - in Ireland - perhaps it might make them interested in trying something else, or even check up on research. Insulin was used in Aston university, UK to combat cachesis very effectively.  Best wishes, Jennette Dear Jennette, I'm glad that your tumors are shrinking. That's great news. I hope you feel even better in the upcoming days. A quick update regarding my mother. We managed to obtain salvestrol platinum 2000 at last! Fortunately it smells a lot better that salvestrol platnum 1000 and my mother can take it. Currently we are on 6000 points but we will gradually increase it to 12000. Our oncologist said the brain tumors were almost gone due to whole brain radiotherapy we had last April. That's good news. Bad news is it seems that Alimta is not working for my mom unfortunately. So it looks like salvestrol is our only weapon. Best wishes, Levent levoo1979 Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Levoo, How is your mother - I do hope she is getting better. Thank you for your reply. I am good - as the radiologist says - something is working. The surgeon says this is the tamoxifen working - but all I can say is that the tumours are thinning and shrinking, and I feel a lot better. My friend hopes to show the results of her brothers treatment in New York to oncologists here - in Ireland - perhaps it might make them interested in trying something else, or even check up on research. Insulin was used in Aston university, UK to combat cachesis very effectively.  Best wishes, Jennette jennette Wed, 15 Aug 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Aug 10, 2012 6:57 a.m. levoo1979 wrote: On Agu 03, 2012 1:24 jennette wrote: Dear all, Thank you so much for putting up the positive effects of salvestrols. It is difficult to do something different when all the medical advice is to the contrary. My friends brother had a most aggressive stomach cancer which could not be operated on - and he was already suffering from cachesis and was unable to eat. So somethinghad to be done quickly which is why he went for the insulin potentiated chemo. Dr Linchitz in new york is a lung cancer survivor and incorporates so many scientific but not generally accepted ways of treating a cancer sufferer. I am in Ireland and wish we had a clinic doing IPT here. Thanks for your good advice re vit d and selenium and fish oils - I am taking them!   I feel that we do have cures for cancer - but so much money has been invested in the conventional way of treating it, that it is difficult to get optimum treatment in a main line medical system. JennetteI totally agree with you Jennette. Money corrupts everything, including healthcare system. Unfortunately, everyday there are more and more people are diagnosed with cancer. Therefore, cancer treatment is becoming a major industry. I hope people stop thinking about money, stop playing with people's lives and find a real cure for the cancer. By the way, I would like to convey our experience about salvestrols. My mom has non-small cell lung cancer stage IV. She's been on salvestrols about one and a half month or so. The problem with salvestrols is you need to swallow them. My mom has terrible nausea (thus, vomiting) so it is really hard for her to take salvestrol tablets. She was able to take salvestrols around 6000 points when we started. However, now we can barely reach 3000 points. I wish there is another way of taking salvestrols. We believe, salvestrols will improve her condition if we can control her nausea and increase the salvestrol dosage. Please don’t get me wrong, her nausea is NOT because of salvestrols. I’ll keep you posted. God help her…  Salvestrol capsules can be opened and the contents mixed into smoothies or juices, do not use babannas for smoothies unless they are organic! Davevou Fri, 10 Aug 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Agu 03, 2012 1:24 jennette wrote: Dear all, Thank you so much for putting up the positive effects of salvestrols. It is difficult to do something different when all the medical advice is to the contrary. My friends brother had a most aggressive stomach cancer which could not be operated on - and he was already suffering from cachesis and was unable to eat. So somethinghad to be done quickly which is why he went for the insulin potentiated chemo. Dr Linchitz in new york is a lung cancer survivor and incorporates so many scientific but not generally accepted ways of treating a cancer sufferer. I am in Ireland and wish we had a clinic doing IPT here. Thanks for your good advice re vit d and selenium and fish oils - I am taking them!   I feel that we do have cures for cancer - but so much money has been invested in the conventional way of treating it, that it is difficult to get optimum treatment in a main line medical system. JennetteI totally agree with you Jennette. Money corrupts everything, including healthcare system. Unfortunately, everyday there are more and more people are diagnosed with cancer. Therefore, cancer treatment is becoming a major industry. I hope people stop thinking about money, stop playing with people's lives and find a real cure for the cancer. By the way, I would like to convey our experience about salvestrols. My mom has non-small cell lung cancer stage IV. She's been on salvestrols about one and a half month or so. The problem with salvestrols is you need to swallow them. My mom has terrible nausea (thus, vomiting) so it is really hard for her to take salvestrol tablets. She was able to take salvestrols around 6000 points when we started. However, now we can barely reach 3000 points. I wish there is another way of taking salvestrols. We believe, salvestrols will improve her condition if we can control her nausea and increase the salvestrol dosage. Please don’t get me wrong, her nausea is NOT because of salvestrols. I’ll keep you posted. God help her…   levoo1979 Fri, 10 Aug 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear all, Thank you so much for putting up the positive effects of salvestrols. It is difficult to do something different when all the medical advice is to the contrary. My friends brother had a most aggressive stomach cancer which could not be operated on - and he was already suffering from cachesis and was unable to eat. So somethinghad to be done quickly which is why he went for the insulin potentiated chemo. Dr Linchitz in new york is a lung cancer survivor and incorporates so many scientific but not generally accepted ways of treating a cancer sufferer. I am in Ireland and wish we had a clinic doing IPT here. Thanks for your good advice re vit d and selenium and fish oils - I am taking them!   I feel that we do have cures for cancer - but so much money has been invested in the conventional way of treating it, that it is difficult to get optimum treatment in a main line medical system. Jennette jennette Fri, 03 Aug 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Peter, that is good news. It is so good to read that other people use salvestrols with similar success. Here in germany lives a former lung cancer patient which was diagnosed back in 2006. After his surgery he decided to not do chemo therapy. Instead he received treatment of an ajurveda specialist and changed his nutrition to uncooked vegetarian food. The foundation of his daily food was (still is) a smoothie mainly consisting of wild herbs, linseed and organic fruit. Every morning he walks and collects wild herbs for his drink. After one year no signs of cancer could be found. I think implicitly he used the right sources of salvestrols. By the way this man had various TV appearances here and offers recipes of his nutrition. Stories like that show how important the discovery of salvestrols was. Unfortunately so few people know about the relationship between food and health and about the existence of salvestrols. kind regards Ulrich UlrichSeidl Thu, 02 Aug 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Ulrich All much appreciated. I think that my regime for Chart is similar : Vit C 1,000mg x 2 daily; good multivitamin; Salmon oil 2 x 1,000mg. I can also report that his success at 2 months on Salvestrol seems amazing. He has Hemangiosarcoma.Tumour removed with spleen and no further signs of spread. Being carried via the circulation system, it is vicious and tends to seed to other organs (mainly liver and lungs). I am determined that this will not happen an that Salvestrol is doing it's job !!! Thank you for your help. Regards Peter peter1 Wed, 01 Aug 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Peter, I think Prof. Potter did write about that  in this thread. To my knowledge these are buffered vitamin C, magnesium, biotin (vitamin h), vitamin D, niacin, iron, lysine. My mum takes one vitamin C 1000mg a day (2 during chemo), one lysine/proline capsule per day and for covering the rest of the list she takes two tea spoons of UltraInflamX mixed in yoghurt.This is in addition to 3 Salvestrol Plat. capsules per day. Physical activity is important too, and avoiding the use of sugar where possible. I found some of that in the case studies published and our salvestrol distributor delivers a dosage recommendation where some of this can be found too. best regards Ulrich UlrichSeidl Wed, 01 Aug 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Ulrich Thank you for your most encouraging report on your mum and the improvements to her health re Salvestrol. I am delighted to read how very well and how quickly she responded. I have no doubt that she will go from strength to strength. Please keep us posted as it has great positive influence for all of us using Salvestrol for either ourselves or for a family member. What are the vitamins you speak of ? I note you also mention "synergystic minerals" ? Please can you let me k now. Much appreciated. Kind regards Peter peter1 Wed, 01 Aug 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hello all, I would like to share my experience with Salvestrols. My mother was diagnosed ovary cancer (stage 3) june of last year. She had surgery done several weeks later. Her ovary and uterus had been removed. There were tumor cell adhesions to her colon found, but it had been decided to do no surgery of the colon. Her doctor and the oncologist said that chemo therapy would cure that. She then started chemo therapy begin of August 2011 and started taking salvestrols (6000 points) at about the same time, as I had read about salvestrol around the same timeframe. We followed the recommendations based on the salvestrol case studies and also started with taking the synergystic minerals and vitamins. We had high hopes and on the other hand also had doubts that salvestrols would help. My mom had little problems during the chemo. Her tumor markers went down to normal within 3 months. The oncologist had asked to re-testing several of her blood samples as he could not believe how quick the markers were falling. Chemo is over since mid January 2012. Since october 2011 repeated ultrasonic examination could not find tumor adhesions anymore. She is going to the oncologist for exams every 6 weeks or two months and had also had an exam at the gynaecologist lately. They could not find anything. She is continueing to take salvestrol in the same way, has changed her diet to organic grown food, and started to do sports apart from lots of garden work. Apparently my mom responded relatively fast to salvestrols. A friend of ours started on taking salvestrol in autumn of 2011 and had also seen improvements, but not so rapidly as with my mom. It seems that it is important to stick with the salvestrols even if the improvement is slow or a period of time without improvement is experienced. And don't forget the synergists. cheers US UlrichSeidl Wed, 01 Aug 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi It depends where you are. I am in New Zealand and I get mine frow a really nice guy at a place called salvacare biotechnoligies. He is willing to talk to anyone and has some really amazing stories that will give you hope. He may even tell you my story as I am hoping to be one of there successful case studies. If you are somewhere else browse through this entire blog there is loads of info here on where to get them. Keep me posted.   Bunz  bundy Mon, 30 Jul 2012 00:00:00 GMT Jennette   Aside from IPT being much more effective and selective in getting rid of C cells, wanted to recommend looking into optimizing your Vit D and Selenium levels There's an MD on the West Coast named Dr Lodi who does IPT. His newest therapy is Sodium Selenite (selenium). He says its one of the most effective therapies for C he's come across  A person dealing with C can take a therapeutic dose of 3-400 mcg Selenium daily Vit D is on par with Selenium, maybe even better, at combatting C, especially Breast C. Optimal levels in someone dealing with this disease is above 60ng/ml. Daily dosage to get to that level varies based on body weight and existing D level. But 8-10,000 iu daily for a few months seems to be what the experts are proving out in their studies   andy73 Mon, 30 Jul 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear all, I wonder do you need something which acts faster to reduce the cancer load if it is large/has metastasised? I am taking salvestrols, with tamoxifen, and have 3 tumours in breast. Did not want mastectomy. Have taken salvestrols since feb and have regular scans. The cancers are reducing and thinning, but it is nerve racking going from scan to scan. I am also using liposomal vit c with chlorella. A friend of mine has a brother in new york with stage 4 stomach cancer -metastased. He is attending a clinic where they do insulin potentiated chemo. The chemo is assessed for effectiveness against the cancer types, by a laboratory in Greece, to make sure only the correct chemo is being used. The results of the treatment are quite amazing and he is bouncing about and back to work. I believe you can find out about clinics doing this in the states or mexico by checking out insulin potentiated chemo. Very scientific- dont be put off by the ignorance out there. If you want more info you might have to send a private note to me - I dont think I can give you the name of the clinic on this site. Very best wishes Jennette   jennette Mon, 30 Jul 2012 00:00:00 GMT Thank you very much Peter. Clubcar Mon, 30 Jul 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Clubcar   Thanks for your email. I do hope that all goes well with your wife and that she responds to the new chemo regime. As far as I am aware, she is fine to take the Salvestrol together with the chemo. This was asked during the seminar I attended. I have a feeling that the Salvestrols take a couple of months to kick in, so do not give up. Prof Dan Burke is most helpful if you need to chat to him. Please keep me posted, and if I can assist in other way, please do not hestitate to drop me a note.   Kind regards Peter peter1 Mon, 30 Jul 2012 00:00:00 GMT Thanks Peter; My wife has metastatic liver cancer.  We just started a new chemo regiement since she did not respond to the previous cocktail (gemzar & cisplatin) and the cancer has spread to her peritoneum.  The new chemo is 5FU, Eloxatin, and Levcovorin. I sent her oncologist some information on Salvestrol to make sure it won't interfere with her chemo and he gave the OK.  Hopefully we'll start on it tonight.   Clubcar Mon, 30 Jul 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Bundy, Would you please be so kind to let me know information regarding Salvestrol, what is it, how should it be taken-doses, etc., cost of it , where to get. My mother has a colon cancer, stage 4. I will be very appreciated to you for your help. I believe it is the last chance to help her. Doctors sad that thei are not able to help her. I'll be very appreciated to you for your help. my e-mail address Message edited by CancerCompass staff. For personal protection,email address removed. Consider private reply. Please review CancerCompass Member Guidelines athttp://www.cancercompass.com/common/guidelines.html    Dmitryv Sun, 29 Jul 2012 00:00:00 GMT  I was part of a live seminar with prof Dan Burke about a month ago. This same question was put to him by other doctors on the seminar re why no medical trials. The answer was simply : a small group of researchers who have worked for many years on Salvestrol, and can not afford the HUGE expenses involved in such trials. Also prevented from presenting at large medical congresses as they would then have to divilege exact conponents, and they would be copied by others. Makes sense. There are very good antidotal reports, but am sure that thre is room for more work. I am using them on a dog who has hemangiosarcoma. A real nasty cancer, and so far, excellent ! Happy to keep you posted. Prof Dan Burke has lectured oncology to med students for about 20 years I think, and the seminar showed some encouraging lab tests where the CYP1 B1 enzyme is metabilized by the Salvestrols. Regards Peter peter1 Wed, 18 Jul 2012 00:00:00 GMT Does anyone know of any of research done with Salvestrols and cancer other than the original discoveries?  It appears that there is plenty of anecdotal evidence that it works, yet no research has been conducted, any ideas as to why?  When I do an internet search it always comes back to the same place, Jerry Potter in 2003.  But nothing since then Thanks Clubcar Wed, 18 Jul 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Jul 16, 2012 10:54 PM Johnfwf wrote: Iduna, I am so sorry for your loss, that is the problem with taking Salvestrols, or any medication for that matter, most people expect them to start working almost immediately, but as  Gerry has pointed out, it can take up to 6 months, for them get to the point where they start to show any improvement in the Cancer. I am in no way promoting the use of Salvestrols, but it seems that most people use them as a last resourse, when every thing else has failed. I, too wish to extend my sympathy.  Unfortunately, alternative medicine is most often used as a last resort after conventional medicine has failed.As Salvestrol becomes more well known, I am hoping for stories of success when used initially with the first line of defense with the conventional medication (not chemo).The shills for Big Pharma love to publicize "failures" of alternative medicine, especially when someone of notoriety finally loses the battle. It certainly makes us wonder if the outcome would have been different if they had tried alternative treatment before the cancer advanced. Ed capted Wed, 18 Jul 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Iduna, I am so sorry to hear about your mothers death. I thought that could have been the case as you were not replying. Your mother must have been grateful for your care and love and loyalty. God bless you, Jennette jennette Tue, 17 Jul 2012 00:00:00 GMT Iduna, I am so sorry for your loss, that is the problem with taking Salvestrols, or any medication for that matter, most people expect them to start working almost immediately, but as  Gerry has pointed out, it can take up to 6 months, for them get to the point where they start to show any improvement in the Cancer. I am in no way promoting the use of Salvestrols, but it seems that most people use them as a last resourse, when every thing else has failed.  Johnfwf Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi MLSK. I am sorry to hear about your Mum. Remember as she was before she was gripped by this hideous disease. Thank you for your courage to post youur sad news and the conviction to still beleive in the efficacy of Salvestrols. I have no doubt it will mean a lo to many readers. Salvestrols certainly seem to be a fantastic answer for cancer but with advanced cases it will take some time to restore health. You can't expect something that took years to grow to be gone in 5 minutes. I too have lost my dad and close friends to cancer I so wish I had known about Salvestrols in time to save them. Kindest thoughts debcnz DebCNZ Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:00:00 GMT My mum died after too short time on them, 24th of May, only 60 yrs old. I really believed in them. I contacted a practioner who told me that it takes up to 3 mts before they start working (6000 points a day). It starts by stabilizing the cancer, afterwards stopping gradually and finally decreasing the cancer... it can take up to 6 mts and more to see this effect....I would not give it up yet. There might be hope. My mum started the treatment too late, and I am so sorry for it. iduna Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:00:00 GMT MJLSK; I'm sorry to hear this news.  My thoughts and prayers are with you.   We are waiting for a couple of months of chemo before we try the Salvestrol so we don't have too many variables at one time. Clubcar Thu, 12 Jul 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi all, I have posted on here a while ago asking about salvestrols and my husband has been taking them for 3 months now. (6000 points per day as per Dr Potter's advice). Unfortunately his tumour has regrown while on salvestrols and he had another surgery on Monday, 9th of July. Therefore salvestrols are ineffective for us.. I had a lot of hope in them :( MJLSK Thu, 12 Jul 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Andy, Thanks for your advice. What do you think about salvestrols after your research? I certainly hope they work as I am taking them. Jennette   jennette Wed, 27 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Best way I've found to research the efficacy of Salvestrol is contacting practitioners who use it with their clients/patients  Salvestrol.ca has a list of practitioners  just have to do a little homework  andy73 Thu, 21 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT I think the real issue you will have about getting information on treatment outcomes when it comes to salvestrols is that not many people have been using them for any period of time I have one client on them right now but he has only been on them for a little over a month, so time will tell. ozzieme Thu, 21 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT I've read the thread but only find one or two positive accounts of its effectiveness. How is this different from other alternatives? If anyone can share their experience with Salvestrols, I'd really appreciate hearing about it. sfaith Thu, 21 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi PatrickJ, You'll see the date on that post was May 12 2012. If you scroll back through this blog you will find the original post on this dat on Page 28. Prior to that Proff Potter regularly posted answers to queries. He hasn't posted since that date. Tryhttp://salvestrolinfo.blogspot.co.nz All the best debcnz DebCNZ Thu, 21 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT On May 11, 2012 2:19 PM gerrypotter wrote: Dear all, I have been prevented from any further communication on this website and so I am unable to provide answers to any further questions. I hope that I have provided you with helpful advice about salvestrols and other natural cancer therapies, and that the people with cancer make a good recovery. I believe that recovery from cancer is only truely possible by working with the human body by natural means. I would like to thank John for starting this discussion on "Salvestrols at Work" which has led to some useful discussions on Salvestrol Therapy which will help people considering this option.Not for nothing, but if Mr. Potter was prevented from any further posting on this site, then how in hell did he post this? PatrickJ Thu, 21 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Great news and great to hear. goodday Thu, 21 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Thanks Andy, just ordered some. Clubcar Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Ships to US http://www.natural-alternative-products.co.uk/ andy73 Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Thank you very much.  Begs the question - If it's just a plant extract and a dietary supplement, why is it contolled?  No doubt some stupid law that was not inteded to control substances like this. Clubcar Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Jun 20, 2012 6:37 PM Clubcar wrote: Is it illegal to ship Salvestrols into the US?  That is, if I have a friend in the UK and they make the purchase, are they comitting a crime or breaking some legal rule by sending them on to me?I wasn't able to find any information on that, but that might be ok.  It seems that this came about just recently.  It was maybe two months ago I had found a UK site that could ship here and just recently when I went back to order, they no longer ship to the US. Baileysmom97 Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Should have mentioned I get the capsules from Netriceuticals.com .  They're a couple dollars cheaper than Salvestrol.ca and there's no shipping fee. Baileysmom97 Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Is it illegal to ship Salvestrols into the US?  That is, if I have a friend in the UK and they make the purchase, are they comitting a crime or breaking some legal rule by sending them on to me? Clubcar Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Jun 20, 2012 6:14 PM Clubcar wrote: I'm about to purchase some salvestrol tablets but I'm wondering why they are twice as expensive at Salvestrol.ca "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://Salvestrol.ca " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Salvestrol.ca than a couple of the British sites? Is there a prefered site to buy from that is the most reputable? Thank you to everyone who posts on this board......The UK sites cannot ship to the US and certain other countries so that may be a part of it. Baileysmom97 Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT I'm about to purchase some salvestrol tablets but I'm wondering why they are twice as expensive at Salvestrol.ca than a couple of the British sites? Is there a prefered site to buy from that is the most reputable? Thank you to everyone who posts on this board...... Clubcar Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Does anyone know the optimum time to take the salvestrols? We know that Zytiga is up to 10 times (I read somewhere) more potent when taken with food and it is advised to take it on an empty stomach which is the way it was tested. Some of my medications say to take with food. Salvestrols are to be taken AFTER meals (food). Is there an optimum time for the most effectiveness and is there a time that negates or lessens the effect? If one forgets or can't take a capsule after a meal, is it any less effective if taken between meals? capted Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Mark I think the sound of your results is wonderful, and all the more reason to remain on Salvestrol. I celebrate with you.   Kind regards Peter peter1 Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Great to hear your news Bundy!!! Given where you were at 6 months ago that is amazing. No doubt you had the thoughts 'its back' in your mind before you got that fantastic result. Thought I would do some looking for you on those two words - 'sclerotic' and 'lucent'. Here's what I found -  "What does it mean that a lesion is sclerotic? Well, generally, it means that it is due to a fairly slow-growing process". (doesnt sound too much like melanoma) Meaning of 'lucent' bone lesion-Expansile pseudotumor of reactive hemorrhagic tissue arising in bone. (sounds like a 'claytons' tumour- not meaning to be flippant) I have a brother who has many metastised tumors in his bones from Prostate cancer. He is taking Salvestrols and the pain from those has receded now. My thoughts are that even when the tumors are no longer active (because Salvestrols have won the battle) there may always be a 'lesion' left behind, or for some time anyway. Could it be that that is what is referred to as lucent? Lucent basically means light will go through it as opposed  to normal bone tissue that appears white in xrays because the rays dont go through bone but highlight it. I think of bone tumors as a bit like lichen (dry looking moss) on a farm gate. Even if you spray the gate with roundup or the lichen dies in the heat, it stays there visible for some time till it falls or flakes off. It takes two years for a broken bone to heal by 'over growing' and then the body 'eats' away the extra bone tissue till it looks perfect again. Anyway Bundy, what I am getting at in all this gabble is... maybe the healing process is happening and it may take a little more time for your body to reform the tissue to its original state. See Gleason10's post about his bone tumour on L5 vertebrae that has disappeared. Keep taking those Salvestrols and enjoy your regained health and strength. Your'e a star! Thanks for updating us DebCNZ   DebCNZ Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Guys   I had some surgery a couple of weeks ago on two suspected melanomas. Sub cutaneous ones. Both came up non melanoma. The surgeon was very surprised he was certain they would both be melanoma. So we were all very pleased about that. Also he gave me my CT scan results which showed no new lesions by his reading. Which is great but, there is always a but. One of the bony lesions that was sclerotic is now what they call a lucent lesion. Im not to sure what that means yet. I will be seeing the Oncoligist on Monday. I t has not changed in size. If anyone can put some more advice on that it would be great. All and all it a pretty good result. The surgeon reckons Im doing really well.   Mark bundy Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Would also love to hear how Bundy is getting on. I have huge faith in Salvestrols and long to hear some positive stories that will help me too. Kind regards Peter peter1 Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Bundy, I Have been following your progress on this blog and am keen to hear how you got on with your tests last week. You have been such an inspiration to me and many others I am sure.  Love to hear from you. DebCNZ DebCNZ Tue, 19 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Jun 18, 2012 9:44 PM Baileysmom97 wrote: On Jun 18, 2012 3:29 PM levoo1979 wrote: Hi everyone. My mom is non-small cell lung cancer - stage 4. metastasized to brain and several soft tissue. We'll try salvestrols in a week. My problem is what is the starting dose? I couldn't find any information on the product web page. Where can I find this information. Please help.I believe most start with 3 capsules a day (6000 point) but it is not unusual for some to take 6 capsules a day.Hi Baileysmom97  Good on you for pursuing Salvestrols for your mom. Below is a link to dosage guidelines on another excellent information source about Salvestrols. You can register and ask questions just like this blog.  My brother has advanced metastisised Prostate Cancer and he was advised to start on 8000 points (4 capsules) per day by a practitioner in New Zealand. All the very best for your recovery. Debbie http://salvestrolinfo.blogspot.co.nz/2012/05/salvestrol-plat DebCNZ Mon, 18 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Jun 18, 2012 3:29 PM levoo1979 wrote: Hi everyone. My mom is non-small cell lung cancer - stage 4. metastasized to brain and several soft tissue. We'll try salvestrols in a week. My problem is what is the starting dose? I couldn't find any information on the product web page. Where can I find this information. Please help.I believe most start with 3 capsules a day (6000 point) but it is not unusual for some to take 6 capsules a day. Baileysmom97 Mon, 18 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Got my Salvestrol Platinum 2000 today. Will keep everyone advised. I am going to "chicken out" on Provenge for the time being. I do not relish a port being installed for the treatment. Also don't want to go without a shower for 6 or more weeks. capted Mon, 18 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi everyone. My mom is non-small cell lung cancer - stage 4. metastasized to brain and several soft tissue. We'll try salvestrols in a week. My problem is what is the starting dose? I couldn't find any information on the product web page. Where can I find this information. Please help. levoo1979 Mon, 18 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Jun 14, 2012 7:20 PM Clubcar wrote: http://www.salvestrol.ca/ "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.salvestrol.ca/ " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.salvestrol.ca/ I'm just starting to research this for my wife, but this is one of the best sites I've seen so far.  I wish you the best.Here's a good site regarding Salvestrol...I believe Gerry Potter started it. http://salvestrolinfo.blogspot.com.au/search?updated-min=201 gleason10 Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT I really would suggest that you do start taking Salvestrol. If you are in the US, I would contact one of the uk centres and ask them to send it to you. In South Africa we have reps of the uk company. Best you google Salvestrol availability. Use the Salvestrol Platinium as it is the high potency one (2000 points per cap.). Best of luck. peter1 Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT http://www.salvestrol.ca/ I'm just starting to research this for my wife, but this is one of the best sites I've seen so far.  I wish you the best. Clubcar Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT I was diagnosesd witth renal cell cancer Jan 11, 2011. had a radical neph. in april 2011, was on Sutent. recently foung lung mets. Doc said im going to die, waiting to start afinitor. looking at all options from Anvirzel in Equador to Envida alternative med treatment in Arizona to now this Solvestrol. How do i get it and how do i learn how to take it.  Thank you in advance. Robert goodday Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dr Dean Ornish has a very successful program for prostate C  If you google his name and the word 'cancer' it should bring up articles/ videos andy73 Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Thanks for the info - we're also using Abiraterone, which we're giving another 6 weeks to see if it's going to work. It's rather expensive. If Abiraterone fails, then we may take a look at what other therapies are out there. cargo123 Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Is Salvestrol the only therapy you're using?   If so, maybe consider adding a few additional tools in the tool box  High dose Vit D  http://www.doctorsaputo.com/a/vitamin-d-the-miracle-hormone- IV Vit C  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1& Depending on your husband's form of C,  DMSO could be a valuable therapy also, it works in similar fashion to Vit C, its an oxidative therapy  andy73 Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT I meant validity from an objective point of view. There are a lot of therapies out there that are untested, and Salvestrols are currently in the same category. I don't often enter into discussions of this nature, but I can't find any independent information about Salvestrols on the internet, except information disseminated by people associated with Profs Burke and Potter. This raises a bit of a red flag for me. Personally, my husband is taking Salvestrols - I've read everything I can find about them, and the science does makes sense to me, and I do hope that he will start to improve rather than continuing to get gradually worse. cargo123 Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT "without clinical trials, Salvestrols have no validity" Respectfully, this is the type of thinking that often leads to a person's demise, when dealing with C  There are many things that have great validity, that haven't undergone clinical trial  Gerson therapy is a prime example. High Dose vitamin D is another (look to the work of Dr Joe Prendergast, Stanford Univ )  Once you understand Biochemistry, you'll understand the 'Validity' of these so called 'unproven' therapies  andy73 Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT The trouble is, that without clinical trials, Salvestrols have no validity. The anectodal statistics are skewed, because people taking Salvestrols and still die, don't post any follow-up. Whereas those taking them and survive, either due to Salvestrols, or simply because some cancers go into remission on their own, they will post often. As to not affording to declare the exact types - is that for the same reason as pharmaceutical companies have patents - to protect their investment? cargo123 Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi All I must just emphasize what DebCNZ has said here. I listened to a very interesting live lecture last evening by Prof. Dan Burke. It is quite unbelievable to here the reports he receives from people out there who have used Salvestrol. I now also understand better the reason why this is not more widely published......he cannot afford to declare the exact typs of Salvestrols used, nor can he afford to pay the huge costs of clinical trials. There is NO doubt in my mind that he has hit onto something that will help destroy cancer cells. I believe that there may need to be a multifaceted approach, and that a number of personal factors do come into play when one wants to know how success this type of treatment will be for an individual. Factors such as dosage of Salvestrol, type of cancer, stage of cancer, diet, and so on all contribute to the result that may be expected. I am personally very excited by this development and will personally make use of the product. Best of luck. Peter peter1 Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Clubcar, don't be surprised. Unfortunately you will find on your wife's 'return to full health' journey that the doctors and specialist doctors in 'modern medicine' are very indoctrinated by drug companies to only offer the chemotherapy treatments supplied by those drug companies. All the research statistics they base their recommendations on are from trials and studies sponsored by drug companies and they are very 'blinkered' about any other methods of treatment. I would suggest to you and anyone dealing with a serious health challenge that you take ownership of your health and dont just do what the doctor says. Look further than what the doctors have to offer and take a multi faceted approach to your recovery. Unfortunately there are many 'sharks' out there that can exploit the unwell for profit but Salvestrols are not in that category and what I have seen happening in friends and family using Salvestrols for recovery from cancer is very exciting.Debcnz DebCNZ Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Thank you DebCNZ.  I will definately research this more, however, I am surprised that both our primary oncologist and an oncologist at Dana Farber have never heard of Salvestrols. My wife will be starting a chemo regiment of Gemzar (gematcitabine) and cisplantin once a week for two weeks with the third week off.  Hoping for good results. Clubcar Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi clubcar it's a ghastly time when you have been recently given a scary diagnosis or one for a loved one. You're on the right track investigating Salvestrols ! The following is a link to a very encouraging case study on a site with a lot of info about Salvestrols that you and your wife might find very encouraging. I also highly recommend Brian Schaefers book about Salvestrols which you can read about on that site. I would get on to Salvestrols immediately and read as much as you can about them. Feel very encouraged Debbie. Http://salvestrolinfo.blogspot.co.nz/2012/03/salvestrol-cure DebCNZ Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hello, My Mom has been taking Salvestrol for one week, just after the first round of chemo due delivery problems.  But as I was told, it is better to start taking it as soon as possible. 3 capsules per day and during chemo (3-4 days) reduce it to 1 per day. mgravenhorst Mon, 11 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT My wife was just recently diagnost with Stage IV lung and liver cancer of unknown origin.  We meet tomorrow with our oncologist to determine a chemo treatment.  It sounds as though your Dad was taking Solvestrol either before or along with his chemo.  Is it possible for my wife to start now or wait to see what success we have with the chemo? Is there a down-side to Solvestrol, other than it may not work?  My wife is 48 and is still strong. Thank you for any information. Clubcar Mon, 11 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry I am brand new to this site and to Salvestrol Platinium. I have had one of the worst weeks of my life when my beloved German Shepherd dog (Chart) was rushed to the vet last Friday morning with a spleen bleed. The result of a haemangiosarcoma. The tumour was small and totally removed with the spleen. No sign of spread. However the vet and pathologist were very negative due to this type of tumour which spreads via the blood. Chart is home and recovered 100% from the op. I have not recovered ! I the next day made the wonderful discovery of your product : Salvestrol Platinium (I am in Cape Town). I have followed up with your rep George Hill and started Chart on 1 tab per day. George was most encouraging and helpful. I am longing to hear comment from yourself. Is there any special diet that Chart should follow ? I have always given him a very good home cooked chicken and veg mix with omega 3 and 6. As you can imagine, this is a most important member of my family., and I need to know that I am doing my best. What is your feeling about Salvestrol and Haemangiosarcoma ? Looking forward to hearing your comment with MUCH appreciation. Kind regards Peter peter1 Sun, 10 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Thanks to all of you for posting and keeping us all updated. Salvestrols are getting to be such a hot topic now I have a few people even ask me at my clinic if I know anything about them. I have one client on them right now but its only been a week. Anyway its very good new from both of you I wish you all the best. I will keep my eye on this topic thats for sure. ozzieme Tue, 05 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Thanks for posting, bundy - you give us hope. Best wishes for your scans next week. I am very happy that your quality of life is so improved - that's the most important thing. cargo123 Tue, 05 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Brilliant brilliant brilliant!!!!!! I hope to hear many more great things from you. bundy Tue, 05 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Fantastic news bundy! My dad saw the oncologist this morning, who was incredibly surprised to see someone feel so much better after just 1 chemo cycle. She said she had hardly ever seen that happen, so i have a suspicion the solvestrol is playing a large part in his recovery. Im keeping my fingers crossed for him, and also for you bundy: best of luck, best of health! merelgraeve Tue, 05 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi   Hey wow thats great that your dad enjoyed a proper meal. I am happy about that. I didnt do salvestrols alone but in my case I was told after my chemo that my cancers had continued to grow and that it had not worked. So my oncologist told me that I was to be put forward for a new drug on compassionate grounds. So I started on the salvestrols while my application was processed, What actually happened tho is that cause my application was done over the Xmas period my Onc forgot to send it before he went away for 5 weeks. So when I saw him after Xmas he was very apoligetic. So the process had to all start again!!!!! Fortunately I had been on salvestrols this whole time and was feeling much much better. So another three weeks later I was finally accepted for the new drug. I asked if I could wait till after another scan before I started as it was pretty close to that time anyway. Which he thought was reasonable as I had no more pain and my energy levels were far higher. After the scan I got a call as he was so happy to tell me that my bone mets appeared to be healing!!!!! He was pretty amazed. So I think the salvestrols are really helping me. I have another scan next week. CT. I willpost my results to you I hope they are good. I still feel well and still have no pain. You have to realise before Xmas I couldn lift myself in my seat. I have a long way to go but one trhing is my quality of life is great!!!!!!!! bundy Tue, 05 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Wanted to keep everybody updated about my dad's particular case. (I know that I'm looking through the messages for people sharing their personal experiences using salvestrol) my dad has stage 4 oesophagul cancer, also spread to lymph knots and the stomach and kidneys. He's been taking the salvestrols for about 6 weeks, and started his first cycle of chemo 3 weeks ago. We haven't had scans yet, and of course it's hard to say wether it's the solvestrols doing their work or the chemo, but he feels and seems much better. Before he wasn't able to lie on his side or stomach because of the tumor growth there, now he is able to. Also as the tumor is blocking food going down, he had mostly been on a diet of soups and liquified / pureed food. However yesterday he ate with the family a completely normal meal, without even needing to spit anything back out! That would have been impossible just a few weeks back! He's been on 2 platinums emptied into yoghurt daily. I daren't get my hopes up too much: but could it be the tumor is actually shrinking?! And if the results are good: how can we know if it is chemo or salvestrol? This I do find the issue with trusting salvestrols (I very much want to trust them!), but besides the 6 known case studies, it would be so interesting from people to hear here directly what their experience with salvestrols are. But of course because it is such a new and unknown drug to us at the moment, everybody is too scared to rely on just using salvestrols as a treatment, without also going for traditional therepies... Does anyone personally know of cases where people have taken salvestrols ONLY? merelgraeve Sun, 03 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Jessie on 9 may 2011 in this blog Gerry advised another who has esophageal cancer that you can empty two capsules at a time into yoghurt to make consumption easier. Hope this helps. Debbie DebCNZ Fri, 01 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Jessie on 9 may 2011 in this blog Gerry advised another who has esophageal cancer that you can empty two capsules at a time into yoghurt to make consumption easier. Hope this helps. Debbie DebCNZ Fri, 01 Jun 2012 00:00:00 GMT On May 31, 2012 7:52 PM Jessie2009 wrote: I sometimes have trouble taking pills. does anyone know if these can taken mixed up in yogurt or some kind of drink?My husband also has trouble taking pills, so when I realised he'd be having 3 a day I was worried that he wouldn't. But these are gel capsules that slip down easily. cargo123 Thu, 31 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT I sometimes have trouble taking pills. does anyone know if these can taken mixed up in yogurt or some kind of drink? Jessie2009 Thu, 31 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT On May 30, 2012 5:31 AM cargo123 wrote: I do intend to update when I have anything to report - my husband (Abiraterone - taken for 3 weeks - in conjunction with Salvestrols - taken for 2 weeks) was gradually starting to eat again, after having been on liquid meals, but has other complications going on too, so he's overall not much better than he was when he started. We're hoping that with an indwelling catheter then he'll have a chance to get off the pain killers again, so that he can start a recovery period. He is taking 3 Salvestrol Platinum a day, as advised by Professor Potter, as he is also on Abiraterone (Zytiga). His prostate cancer is very advanced - 300 PSA with lots of mets, and he's finished all conventional treatment like hormone blocker, chemo and radiotherapy. Hi cargo, I just posted an entry on the Salvestrols Against Hormone Refractory Prostate Cancer blog...please read due to amazing results from Salvestrol...here is the linkhttps://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all, In summary, I was diagnosed with stage 4 PC, gleason 10 in July 2008..been on Lupron/Casodex...finally stopped working. Ray gleason10 Thu, 31 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Has anyone experienced a swollen liver while on salvestrol?  My husband has colon cancer with a lot of mets to the liver.  His liver swells on and off, and this time it is really swollen.   He was taking essiac tea and noni juice which Gerry said has a lot of salvestrols in them.  I think he got overloaded, and his liver got backed up.  We see a kinesioogist/herbologist and he has switched his to something like the Hoxey formula.  He tried chemo for a couple of months and it didn't do anything to the cancer, so we are trying alternative alone now. Kerry kerdes Thu, 31 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi and thanks cargo123 and bundy  for keeping this topic alive,I know it is hard to post updates when its only been a few weeks so I guess we will all be waiting to see what your updates are. As always I wish you both the best and hope you get what we are all after a better quality of life and a longer life. ozzieme Wed, 30 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi ozzieme I have been using salvestrol platinum for  months. I have been going hard out on them for my metastatic melanoma. I know thay are expensive but for me IU was told that the chemo had not worked and so I had not to many other options. So I have been on 6 caps a day and also for a month I did 8 a day. So it was alot but I am willing to put every penny I have into staying alive!!! Anyway at last scan it showed two areas of bone mets were clearing up. Sternum and clavicle. One more spot was found sub cutaneous but the doctors could not feel it. So Tuesday is ultrasound to find it. Will let you know.   Mark bundy Wed, 30 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT I do intend to update when I have anything to report - my husband (Abiraterone - taken for 3 weeks - in conjunction with Salvestrols - taken for 2 weeks) was gradually starting to eat again, after having been on liquid meals, but has other complications going on too, so he's overall not much better than he was when he started. We're hoping that with an indwelling catheter then he'll have a chance to get off the pain killers again, so that he can start a recovery period. He is taking 3 Salvestrol Platinum a day, as advised by Professor Potter, as he is also on Abiraterone (Zytiga). His prostate cancer is very advanced - 300 PSA with lots of mets, and he's finished all conventional treatment like hormone blocker, chemo and radiotherapy. cargo123 Wed, 30 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT I have just purchased a bottle of Salvestrol for one of my clients I will keep you all updated, It would be really good if you all could keep updating how things are going on Salvestrol as I have read all the information I can but I would also like some more information from people that are using them not just information posted by the company or case studies. Also please let me know how many tablets you are all taking of the 2000 point tablets per day. ozzieme Wed, 30 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi all, my husband was diagnosed stage iv EC , mets to liver Nov '08, went through six months of chemo finishing May '09. Great quality of life until autum of '11 when food started getting stuck again. Underwent six weeks of chemo/radiation,tough going but almost back to normal now.My husband has a great outlook on life and we try to live in the moment. Have just started on salvestrols, will keep you updated x maire2 Fri, 25 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT On May 19, 2012 3:38 AM cargo123 wrote: He is gradually improving, but he's only been taking the Salvestrols four days, so I don't think that the improvement can be put down to them. He is recovering from chemo and radiation, and of course any improvement could also be put down to the Abiraterone, which he has been taking for over a week. So unless there is a complete cure, which I would consider a complete miracle and very unlikely at his advanced stage, I will never be able to say whether Salvestrols have any influence. There have been numerous reports of Salvestrols working within days, I personally know of 4 people who were terminal before taking the capsules and felt something happening within days, for me it was not until I had my MRI that I saw that my cancer had shrunk. Davevou Wed, 23 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT If you click on Dr. Potter's profile it will bring you to a page that contains all of his 178 posts.   He  generously took  time and made a great effort so that the information there should answer most questions anyone could have.     I toopresumedthat it was the moderators of this site who were responsible for preventing any further communications on this website from Dr. Potter but this does not seem to be the case so perhaps it has something to do with his past experiences with big pharma or perhaps since he is the Director of the Cancer Drug Discovery Group at Delmontfort University in Leicester his duties there are such that he just does not have the time nor permission  to offer more support here. I personally am tremendously grateful for all the information that is available through his profile and think it would be kinder to research there for our answers than to put unwarranted pressure on this very busy and conscientious scientist.. If you do get an opportunity to read this post Dr.Potter I wish you much success and happiness in your future endeavors and I thank you for all that you were able to share here.  You educated us and brought a great deal of hope to many!. Best regards Sheila Shemay Mon, 21 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT If you need to contact Prof. Potter, and ask him for help, try to contact him on the following link -http://prostatecancerinfolink.ning.com/group/experimentais a Prostate cancer site and they may only allow questions regarding Prostate Cancer, but there is no harm in trying, of course, I do not know whether Prof. Potter will respond to your questions. Good Luck. You will have to join the site to post your questions. I had to edit my previous post, as for some reason the word site was added to the link. Johnfwf Mon, 21 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT If you need to contact Prof. Potter, and ask him for help, try to contact him on the following sitehttp://prostatecancerinfolink.ning.com/group/experimenta is a Prostate cancer site and they may only allow questions regarding Prostate Cancer, but there is no harm in trying, of course, I do not know whether Prof. Potter will respond to your questions. Good Luck. You will have to join the site to post your questions. Johnfwf Mon, 21 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT On May 21, 2012 4:13 PM jennette wrote: Hi Gerry - I dont know whether you are reading this, but I asked cancer compass why they would not let you speak any more. The reply was that you certainly are allowed to speak -apparently they deleted some message which was put up - for some reason - and the programme governing the removal of message also dleted a few of your messages. The lady replying to me agreed it was frustrating- but this seems to be how the programme works. Do hope you feel able to join in the discussions again. Best wishes,  JennetteGerry, WE NEED YOU!!!!!!!!! capted Mon, 21 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry - I dont know whether you are reading this, but I asked cancer compass why they would not let you speak any more. The reply was that you certainly are allowed to speak -apparently they deleted some message which was put up - for some reason - and the programme governing the removal of message also dleted a few of your messages. The lady replying to me agreed it was frustrating- but this seems to be how the programme works. Do hope you feel able to join in the discussions again. Best wishes,  Jennette jennette Mon, 21 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Fingers crossed then. I think I will order some and give them to a few of my clients and see how they go. ozzieme Sun, 20 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT He is gradually improving, but he's only been taking the Salvestrols four days, so I don't think that the improvement can be put down to them. He is recovering from chemo and radiation, and of course any improvement could also be put down to the Abiraterone, which he has been taking for over a week. So unless there is a complete cure, which I would consider a complete miracle and very unlikely at his advanced stage, I will never be able to say whether Salvestrols have any influence. cargo123 Sat, 19 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT thanks for the reply how well do you think the salvestrols are working? or is it early days still? I have done some reading on this product but before I put any of my clients on it even for a test I like to dig a bit deeper and get some information from people using it. I wish you all the best. ozzieme Sat, 19 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Yes, it is a lot, but it pales into insignificance beside the other drug that my husband is taking. This is the thread I started about Abiraterone: http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,66075 I expect Salvestrols have development expenses to be recouped as well. My husband is taking 3 capsules a day - that's 6000 "points". That's because he's taking Abiraterone as well. I believe that other people take 6 capsules a day (12000 "points"). Just for informational purposes, here are a couple of links. I personally like to research what I'm getting into - I'm not involved in this product at all, and I have no idea whether it will work for my husband: http://www.salvestrolbook.com/ And it looks like Professor Potter is putting up information here: http://salvestrolinfo.blogspot.com.au/ cargo123 Sat, 19 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT On May 19, 2012 1:00 AM ozzieme wrote: I am thinking of puting a few of my clients on Salvestrols to try them out but I can find it for sale in Australia, can anyone who is in Australia let me know where they purchase it from thanks.Hi  I get mine fromSALVACARE BIOTECHNOLOGIES LIMITED I live in Australia and its the New zealand supplier.. 60 tablets(2000 points) samoyed1 Sat, 19 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Thanks cargo123 for the link but wow $120 NZ for 60 tablets is alot. Can you tell me the dose you are currently on? ozzieme Sat, 19 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT On May 19, 2012 1:00 AM ozzieme wrote: I am thinking of puting a few of my clients on Salvestrols to try them out but I can find it for sale in Australia, can anyone who is in Australia let me know where they purchase it from thanks.I purchased it from here: http://www.salvestrol.co.nz/ It took about a week to arrive in Australia. cargo123 Sat, 19 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT I am thinking of puting a few of my clients on Salvestrols to try them out but I can find it for sale in Australia, can anyone who is in Australia let me know where they purchase it from thanks. ozzieme Sat, 19 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT I wonder is there anyone out there who has used salvestrols and got rid of the cancer - would really like to hear from you. j jennette Fri, 18 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi While I was in Chemo(darcarbazine for melanoma) I held my dosage at 12000 points a day right the way through. I think it helped with the side effects.   Mark bundy Thu, 17 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT I increased dosage while having chemo and so have a few others we know,the increase improved recovery and for two friends stopped their hair falling out. Davevou Wed, 16 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT If you look up 'salvestrols' on the internet, you can find a lot of info - I believe Gerry talks about dosage while doing chemo earlier on in 'salvestrols at work'. You can take salvestrols either before or after eating. It might be good to start them now - I am taking 12000 points a day - but I think you need to work upto this. Best wishes Jennette jennette Wed, 16 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Here is the dosage  for cancer therapy: http://salvestrolinfo.blogspot.com/2012/05/salvestrol-platin gleason10 Wed, 16 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hello I read the whole thread and I find it very inspiring. Can someone help me where can I find the exact instructions of how to take it? My Mom is supposed to start chemo in 2-3 weeks but maybe she could start to take Salvestrol Platinum 2000 already now prior to the therapy. I would like to know how many pills per day prior to therapy she should take, before or after the meal, should she combine it with something else. Also, what is the dose during chemo and the dose after. Thank you very much mgravenhorst Wed, 16 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT On mai 15, 2012 7:13 Davevou wrote: On May 14, 2012 3:58 PM jennette wrote: Obviously, the salvestrols need to be taken with other substances, like biotin and niacin, to keep mechanism working - and the cells need to oxygenated so smokers might have a reduced success rate. I wonder should iron be taken to make sure the cells are oxygenated and CYP1B1 made? In Japan chlorella is taken to get rid of toxins, after chemo/radiation therapy. I wonder would this help with the bodies ability to deal with the die back of cancer cells? Might heal gut also? need lactobacillus too. I worry about the digestive system of people who have had chemo - whether they can absorb the nutrients adequately. Would digestive enzymes be good?  I read that Krill oil is very good for stopping metasteses and reducing inflammation. I feel so sorry for people who are trying to stay afloat,while waiting for the salvestrol effect. JennetteL-glutathione helps with healing,evening primrose/fish oil like efamol marine or eye q at 1 cap per day is also helpful.According to Gerry Potter the Salvestrol therapy did not require any other substances in order to work. I hope I am not completely off the track here. Of course lead a healthy life and eat as ecological as you can etc. STay away from sugar and flower, exercise, fresh air, no smoking, no alcohol.... iduna Wed, 16 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT On May 14, 2012 3:58 PM jennette wrote: Obviously, the salvestrols need to be taken with other substances, like biotin and niacin, to keep mechanism working - and the cells need to oxygenated so smokers might have a reduced success rate. I wonder should iron be taken to make sure the cells are oxygenated and CYP1B1 made? In Japan chlorella is taken to get rid of toxins, after chemo/radiation therapy. I wonder would this help with the bodies ability to deal with the die back of cancer cells? Might heal gut also? need lactobacillus too. I worry about the digestive system of people who have had chemo - whether they can absorb the nutrients adequately. Would digestive enzymes be good?  I read that Krill oil is very good for stopping metasteses and reducing inflammation. I feel so sorry for people who are trying to stay afloat,while waiting for the salvestrol effect. JennetteL-glutathione helps with healing,evening primrose/fish oil like efamol marine or eye q at 1 cap per day is also helpful. Davevou Tue, 15 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Obviously, the salvestrols need to be taken with other substances, like biotin and niacin, to keep mechanism working - and the cells need to oxygenated so smokers might have a reduced success rate. I wonder should iron be taken to make sure the cells are oxygenated and CYP1B1 made? In Japan chlorella is taken to get rid of toxins, after chemo/radiation therapy. I wonder would this help with the bodies ability to deal with the die back of cancer cells? Might heal gut also? need lactobacillus too. I worry about the digestive system of people who have had chemo - whether they can absorb the nutrients adequately. Would digestive enzymes be good?  I read that Krill oil is very good for stopping metasteses and reducing inflammation. I feel so sorry for people who are trying to stay afloat,while waiting for the salvestrol effect. Jennette jennette Mon, 14 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Gerry, I am so so sorry you dont seem to be able to write on cancer compass any more. I do hope you are able to find somewhere you are able to continue talking. I saw Dan Burke talking in Galway this year as I wanted to get some idea of whether we could trust him and the product. I found him to be a straightforward man - and an academic, with an academics way of thinking. He seemed open, and there has obviously been a great amount of research on salvestrols and the CYP1B1 mechanism jennette Mon, 14 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry - I have been following your words since our correspondence a while back. How refreshing to read your ideas and thoughts on your discovery Salvestrol. Disappointed we won't be hearing anymore from you on this blog but thanks for your great contributions. Good luck and best wishes for the future JeanPaul Fri, 11 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Such shame Gerry so many of us found this blog so useful Davevou Fri, 11 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT I'm sorry to hear this too. I read the complete threat last night, and I'm interested in hearing back from some of you who are taking it.  How is it working for you?  What are the possitives and negatives?  Thank you so much! My dad is battling stage 4 esophageal adenocarcinoma and we're looking for "complementary" treatment. Thanks! sfaith Fri, 11 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT On mai 11, 2012 2:19 gerrypotter wrote: Dear all, I have been prevented from any further communication on this website and so I am unable to provide answers to any further questions. I hope that I have provided you with helpful advice about salvestrols and other natural cancer therapies, and that the people with cancer make a good recovery. I believe that recovery from cancer is only truely possible by working with the human body by natural means. I would like to thank John for starting this discussion on "Salvestrols at Work" which has led to some useful discussions on Salvestrol Therapy which will help people considering this option.I am so sorry to hear this. You gave us all the motivation to fight and the security to go ahead. Why would anybody prevent you from further communication? I can understand that it must have taken a lot of time to attend all of us, and this would be difficult to combine with your work. Thank you very very much for helping us. I wish you and your research all the best and hope that you wil succeed in continuing to find cures for cancer. Take care and God bless. iduna Fri, 11 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear all, I have been prevented from any further communication on this website and so I am unable to provide answers to any further questions. I hope that I have provided you with helpful advice about salvestrols and other natural cancer therapies, and that the people with cancer make a good recovery. I believe that recovery from cancer is only truely possible by working with the human body by natural means. I would like to thank John for starting this discussion on "Salvestrols at Work" which has led to some useful discussions on Salvestrol Therapy which will help people considering this option. gerrypotter Fri, 11 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Gerry, Another question on salvestrols contents if you dont mind.. Is there any tangerine in salvestrol platinum? MJLSK Thu, 10 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT On mai 08, 2012 9:43 gerrypotter wrote: Hi Merel, Your dads Oesophagael cancer sounds as if it is at a very advanced stage since it has already spread to other organs so he really needs a higher dose of 6 capsules (12,000 points) daily if possible. Opening the capsules and mixing the contents with yoghurt is a good idea. If you use the contents of 2 capsules at a time this will increase the dose. Given 3 times daily you can reach the 6 capsule dosage. However if your dad is undergoing chemotherapy then the dose should be reduced accordingly, and on the days he receives chemotherapy he should take only 1 capsule. The cream will not help in this case since it is not possible to reach the affected areas with the cream. If you have a family history of cancer then the recommended product for cancer prevention is "Salvestrol Shield" taken once daily. It is possible to prevent cancer with a wholesome vegetarian diet alone, but this can be difficult to maintain sometimes.Hi Gerry I will make this a public mail so it can help other people as well: Yes my mum is very ill with lots of metastasis spreading quickly now. Thank you for leaving me with hope still. This keeps us all alive. WE will continue with 6000 points for 5 more weeks and hope for a change. If no change, I will talk to you again for advice about increased dose. Just a question, can max dose 12000 points kill my mum since you do not advice this dose for my mum`s serious colon cancer? I just do not know if my mum has got any extra time after these 5 weeks, and I need to provide her with the best treatment now. So if max dose is more efficient and it can not kill her, only provide more hope, do you not think we should try it? It is looking so bad, and I am afraid of losing her before we get the chance to see if the salvestrol works in 5 more weeks (used 6000 points for 3 weeks). Her liver is about to stop working. Sorry to be a pain and asking again and again, but in case you had not understood how sick my mum actually is. I see you recommend 12000 points to many other cancers with metastasis. Mum will alongside also take these supplements. Please tell me if any of them are bad with the salvestrol: antioxidant (solaray) Omega 3 (fish oil) NBG24, 7 Vit D 1000iu Magnesium Zink N-acetylcystein, C-vit and iscador you have confirmed are ok. Thank you so much. Best rgds iduna iduna Thu, 10 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT On mai 09, 2012 10:24 MJLSK wrote: My husbands MRI of today shows lots of enhancement around the tumour cavity and edema which is really big... Help. When can i expect salvestrols to start working :(My mum is also getting worse. She is at the hospital and tests get worse every day (4 stage colon cancer). She has been on salvestrol for 2,5 weeks. We are holding on to the hope of salvestrol. I have understood that withing 2 - 3 mts you should see signs. Almost impossible to wait this long. How long has your husband been on them? Nice to know for me as well when change can be expected. We pray for a change every day. iduna Thu, 10 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT My husbands MRI of today shows lots of enhancement around the tumour cavity and edema which is really big... Help. When can i expect salvestrols to start working :( MJLSK Wed, 09 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry   Thanks for that I will tell him and hope that he takes them. Unfortunately I do encourage people to try salvestrols but a lot of them are very skeptical. Even after they here my story so far. Weird I think.   Mark bundy Wed, 09 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry I just wanted too ask. I have been taking 3 platinum capsules of salvestrols from the NZ supplier, so 6000 points daily. It was thought I had lymphoma, however after surgical biopsy, I have been diagnosed with a benign lymph condition, which is very rare called Castlemans. However this condition can turn into lymphoma, what dosage would you suggest too help prevent this occuring. The lymphoma followng Castlemans is of an aggressive, hard too treat nature, so I want to be proactive and reduce that risk as much as possible. Thank you samoyed1 Wed, 09 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry, I have a question which is slightly off topic, but may also be of interest to Merel and others as well. What blood tests, if any, are suitable for monitoring the progression of oesophageal cancer? The oncologist has informed us that they intend to do no tests. I would like to go back to them and tell them exactly what we need, if a suitable test is available. I know the nagalase test (GcMAF) is supposed to be related to total tumor burden, however this test is expensive here, and done in batches every two months, with a further six week wait for results. Thanks. Hoggle Wed, 09 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Thanks for the link capted. My intention is to continue purchasing the 1880 Life product which Gerry has recommended, and which I have already commenced using. Natural Alternative Products does appear to still be shipping internationally, and are the cheapest source for batches of 90 capsules. Hoggle Wed, 09 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT On May 09, 2012 12:08 AM capted wrote: Have been trying to send this link to Hoogle. http://www.voedingssupplementennederland.nl/en/catalogsearch /result/?q=salvestrol"" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.voedingssupplementennederland.nl/en/catalogsearch target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.voedingssupplementennederland.nl/en/catalogsearch That should have been Hoggle. capted Wed, 09 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Have been trying to send this link to Hoogle. http://www.voedingssupplementennederland.nl/en/catalogsearch capted Wed, 09 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Merel, Your dads Oesophagael cancer sounds as if it is at a very advanced stage since it has already spread to other organs so he really needs a higher dose of 6 capsules (12,000 points) daily if possible. Opening the capsules and mixing the contents with yoghurt is a good idea. If you use the contents of 2 capsules at a time this will increase the dose. Given 3 times daily you can reach the 6 capsule dosage. However if your dad is undergoing chemotherapy then the dose should be reduced accordingly, and on the days he receives chemotherapy he should take only 1 capsule. The cream will not help in this case since it is not possible to reach the affected areas with the cream. If you have a family history of cancer then the recommended product for cancer prevention is "Salvestrol Shield" taken once daily. It is possible to prevent cancer with a wholesome vegetarian diet alone, but this can be difficult to maintain sometimes. gerrypotter Tue, 08 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT On May 08, 2012 3:42 AM bundy wrote: Hi Gerry   One of my friends has a skin cancer he call some sort of scaly skin cancer. He has many areas all over his body that have been burnt or cut off. He has also been using a chemotherapy cream on a bad area on his neck which he said was extremely painful cause it burnt his skin off. I gave him my pot of cream about a week and a half ago for him to try on his neck as he said he couldnt bare the chemotherapy cream anymore and it didnt appear to be working anyway. I have just got back from his house and his neck looks a lot better. He said something is happening. neither of us know what. He said it is still sore but it feels much better and he can even shave without excruciating pain. I told him to keep going with the cream a little longer to see what will happen after he has used up one whole pot. He has lots of these spots on his skin would Platinum help him?   MarkHi Mark, Your friend sounds like he is in a bad way with this skin cancer. I definitely recommend Salvestrol Platinum in this case with a dose of 3 capsules (6000 points) daily. This will work systemically to clear the cancer cells from the body. The salvestrol cream seems to be working its magic already and he should continue with this also, Gerry gerrypotter Tue, 08 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT On May 08, 2012 6:59 PM Hoggle wrote: Hi Merel, Although I'm sure Gerry will respond himself, I enquired about oesophageal cancer a few weeks ago. You will find Gerry's response at the top of page 21 of this thread. He addresses the swallowing issue in his response, and mentions two cases he is aware of where Salvestrols have been used to treat oesophageal cancer, one successfully.Hi Hoggle, Thank you for pointing that out! I've read a lot of the pages in this discussion but didn't catch page 21! It is good to know somebody has responded to it. We've been told today that my father will receive chemo to fight the tumor. He will also continue to take his platinum. I'd still like to know if you can recommend any cream in addition Gerry? I would also like to know gerry, since cancer now seems to be running on both sides of my family, is it a good idea to take salvestrol vegetarian capsules (as I'm a veggie), or would it be enough to change over my diet and switch to organic produce foods only? (I'm still young, 23). I will keep you updated about my father's case and let you know if we can see a difference from taking salvestrols. love, Merel merelgraeve Tue, 08 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Merel, Although I'm sure Gerry will respond himself, I enquired about oesophageal cancer a few weeks ago. You will find Gerry's response at the top of page 21 of this thread. He addresses the swallowing issue in his response, and mentions two cases he is aware of where Salvestrols have been used to treat oesophageal cancer, one successfully. Hoggle Tue, 08 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry, I've found out my dad has cancer a few weeks ago, and I've been following this blog ever since. The salvestrols really fascinate me and give me hope. He has been diagnosed with cancer in the oesophagus which has already spread to his stomach, a kidney and a lymph in the groin area. Today we will hear from the oncologist if they can offer any treatment, though they have already made clear this isn't going to be something he can be cured of. The tumor in his oesophagus is basically blocking the food from going down, (he's gotten really skinny), basically he can really only eat soup and liquid, anything chunky or too dry just gets 'stuck' in the throat as it's trying to go down but the tumor is blocking it. Can platinum help him? Because it would be impossible for him to swallow the capsule as it is, we have been opening the capsules, 'folded' it into yoghurt or mixed with a sip of juice. The sales representative of platinum in Holland says this is fine to do. What is your opinion about that? He's been taking 2 capsules a day, 3 if he can bear it. Is there maybe something else you can reccomend so he doesn't have to swallow it down? would a cream be better? I so appreciate the time you are spending on this blog, as does everybody else I'm sure. Kind Regards, Merel merelgraeve Tue, 08 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry   One of my friends has a skin cancer he call some sort of scaly skin cancer. He has many areas all over his body that have been burnt or cut off. He has also been using a chemotherapy cream on a bad area on his neck which he said was extremely painful cause it burnt his skin off. I gave him my pot of cream about a week and a half ago for him to try on his neck as he said he couldnt bare the chemotherapy cream anymore and it didnt appear to be working anyway. I have just got back from his house and his neck looks a lot better. He said something is happening. neither of us know what. He said it is still sore but it feels much better and he can even shave without excruciating pain. I told him to keep going with the cream a little longer to see what will happen after he has used up one whole pot. He has lots of these spots on his skin would Platinum help him?   Mark bundy Tue, 08 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Currently http://www.natural-alternative-products.co.uk is inaccessible. The page is returning a 403 Forbidden error, even through a UK-based proxy. My bet would be that when the site comes back up, if it ever does, Salvestrol products will not be shipped overseas from that site either. Hoggle Tue, 08 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi   Thats a great story. I am so happy for you and I hope to have the same success as you are having. As far as the cost goes I think for what they seem to be doing for people, they are reasonable in cost in fact very reasonable. I have tried a lot of different thing which are far less effective and far more expensive.   Mark bundy Mon, 07 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT On May 06, 2012 6:20 PM gerrypotter wrote: Hi Mark, thanks for your update. The dose of 12000 points per day seems to be the maximum that is required for Salvestrol Therapy. I don't think giving a higher dose than this really makes much difference since the salvestrols can only work at a certain rate in conjunction with the body. The new blood test has been proved in the lab but is still some way off with respect to becoming commercially available.I had a positive result with my pancreatic cancer on just two Salvestrol platinum per day,took them for a month then was advised to take vitamin c, a mans multi vitamin with magnesium and selenium as well as an 1 capsule per day of an omega 6/omega 3 combination called eye q. Funny because after two MRI scans in 1 hour, the radiologist said it had shrunk on my pancreas, the doctor said they don't shrink and since then it has been called a lesion, I don't give a stuff what they call it, I am alive and 9 months on feling great, still take the Salvestrol 1 per day and the other tablets, not taking any chances. Hope the above gives some hope to anybody else going through the anguish and rubbish advice from some of the hopeless medical people. Davevou Mon, 07 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Jennette, Thanks for telling me about the side effects of Tamoxifen and Letrozole. As a drug designer its really useful to get this information. I think the reponse you are seeing is what can be expected from a dose of 12,000 points per day for 2 months. Generally people who have measurable tumours can see them shrink to half their size over period of about 3 months with Salvestrol Therapy. Sometimes the tumours are not measurable which makes it hard to monitor progress. Best Wishes, Gerry gerrypotter Sun, 06 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Mark, thanks for your update. The dose of 12000 points per day seems to be the maximum that is required for Salvestrol Therapy. I don't think giving a higher dose than this really makes much difference since the salvestrols can only work at a certain rate in conjunction with the body. The new blood test has been proved in the lab but is still some way off with respect to becoming commercially available. gerrypotter Sun, 06 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear John, Thanks for sharing this remarkable success story of Zytiga. It shows that in some cases Zytiga really does work well and this drug is fast becoming one of the best options for prostate cancer treatment. What this case shows is that apparently incurable prostate cancer that is resistant to chemotherapy with agents such as Taxotere and Cabazitaxel (Jevtana) can respond to Zytiga Therapy. I appreciate the Nobel Prize nomination, but fortunately I am not motivated by Kudos or profit. My motivation comes from a deep rooted desire to help people with cancer and to develop a cure for cancer that is not beset with side effects. This why I am so pleased with Zytiga and Salvestrols because they fulfill the role of providing effective cancer therapy without serious side effects and are helping people now. Hopefully with time more people will realise this and these agents will be of further benefit for generations to come, Gerry gerrypotter Sun, 06 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT   Wow. I am so glad to hear this. God bless and may you recover completely. I also read earlier that one of your family members went on Salvestrol. How is that person doing? My mum started salvestrol 2 weeks ago. She has colon stage 4 cancer and is not doing well. WE are so much hoping that she will get cured of course. Kind rgds iduna iduna Sun, 06 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT The Salvestrol Platinum 90 price at http://www.natural-alternative-products.co.uk is the cheapest I have found. I was researching alternatives because the site previously recommended to me was too expensive as they only had the 60 capsule product, and did not zero-rate VAT on international orders. Hoggle Sun, 06 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT On May 05, 2012 11:00 PM capted wrote: On May 05, 2012 8:27 PM Hoggle wrote: 1880 Life states "The reason you cannot order through our website is that there is a supplier in your area". My interpretation of this is that sales are prohibited by a commercial arrangement. Local distribution is fine, if the product pricing is adjusted for the market, but in this case, the local product works out to be significantly more expensive. I personally am only trying Salvestrols due to the link between Gerry and abiraterone acetate. If not for that connection, I would probably not be using the product, and especially not with a higher local price tag.Hi Hooggle Try this link: http://www.natural-alternative-products.co.uk "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.natural-alternative-products.co.uk " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.natural-alternative-products.co.uk They claim to ship to Europe and USA. How does this price compare with what you have found previously?Their price is slightly cheaper than 1880 Life for the Salvestrols Platinum product as they do correctly zero-rate VAT on international orders, however their is an additional shipping charge (there may have been with 1880 Life previously when they shipped overseas, but currently it is listed as having free shipping). The inability to order from other sites is something which has occurred over recent days, so I wouldn't assume any source is reliable at this point in time. Hoggle Sun, 06 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry Just a quick update. I have now finished my month of 16000 points a day. Now I am back to 12000 points a day. I hope that the month proved to be worth while. I am still using the cream on my chest area. Tho I cant feel any lump there. I am going to continue 12000 points a day atleast until my next scan in June. With the new blood test that you are working on is that going to be avaliable soon or is it still a while away?   Mark bundy Sun, 06 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT On May 05, 2012 8:27 PM Hoggle wrote: 1880 Life states "The reason you cannot order through our website is that there is a supplier in your area". My interpretation of this is that sales are prohibited by a commercial arrangement. Local distribution is fine, if the product pricing is adjusted for the market, but in this case, the local product works out to be significantly more expensive. I personally am only trying Salvestrols due to the link between Gerry and abiraterone acetate. If not for that connection, I would probably not be using the product, and especially not with a higher local price tag.Hi Hooggle Try this link: http://www.natural-alternative-products.co.uk They claim to ship to Europe and USA. How does this price compare with what you have found previously? capted Sat, 05 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT On May 05, 2012 8:27 PM Hoggle wrote: 1880 Life states "The reason you cannot order through our website is that there is a supplier in your area". My interpretation of this is that sales are prohibited by a commercial arrangement. Local distribution is fine, if the product pricing is adjusted for the market, but in this case, the local product works out to be significantly more expensive. I personally am only trying Salvestrols due to the link between Gerry and abiraterone acetate. If not for that connection, I would probably not be using the product, and especially not with a higher local price tag.                                                       DITTO!!!!!! capted Sat, 05 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT 1880 Life states "The reason you cannot order through our website is that there is a supplier in your area". My interpretation of this is that sales are prohibited by a commercial arrangement. Local distribution is fine, if the product pricing is adjusted for the market, but in this case, the local product works out to be significantly more expensive. I personally am only trying Salvestrols due to the link between Gerry and abiraterone acetate. If not for that connection, I would probably not be using the product, and especially not with a higher local price tag. Hoggle Sat, 05 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT On May 05, 2012 7:18 PM Hoggle wrote: I ordered from http://www.naturopharma.com "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.naturopharma.com " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.naturopharma.com a few weeks ago, as this source was recommended to me by a medical practitioner. I noted yesterday that they too are no longer shipping to certain destinations... "Attention: We are Not allowed to send Salvestrols to the following countries: United States - Canada - NZ - Australia - South Africa - Spain - Holland - Belgium - Germany - Austria - Switzerland - Denmark."Anyone knowWHY? capted Sat, 05 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT I ordered from http://www.naturopharma.com a few weeks ago, as this source was recommended to me by a medical practitioner. I noted yesterday that they too are no longer shipping to certain destinations... "Attention: We are Not allowed to send Salvestrols to the following countries: United States - Canada - NZ - Australia - South Africa - Spain - Holland - Belgium - Germany - Austria - Switzerland - Denmark." Hoggle Sat, 05 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT On May 05, 2012 12:20 PM gerrypotter wrote: The UK distributors do not send products to areas that have a local distributor. For New Zealand and Australia the distributor is Salvacare Biotechnologies. I was able to put an order in my basket at practitionerchoice.co.uk  the other day. Now when I click on my basket, I get this message:"The delivery method you have specified is invalid for your location" I inquired as to why they would not ship to the USA and they said it was because salvestrol.ca had the exclusive coverage for Canada and the USA. This company does not sell Platinum 2000, only Platinum 1000. With the average USA diet, we need more salvestrol than Canada. Can't understand why there are no sources in the USA. As the "miracle" of salvestrol becomes more widely known, you can bet that someone in the USA will manufacture it since it is not patentable. Lets just hope they don't farm the manufacturing out to China! capted Sat, 05 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT The UK distributors do not send products to areas that have a local distributor. For New Zealand and Australia the distributor is Salvacare Biotechnologies. gerrypotter Sat, 05 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT On May 03, 2012 5:30 PM gerrypotter wrote: On May 03, 2012 4:19 PM MJLSK wrote: Gerry, You haven't mentioned this UK source of salvestrols. 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So long as it says "Salvestrol Platinum" on the label then its the right product for cancer therapy. The source I usually recommend is practitionerchoice.co.uk " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.practitionerchoice.co.uk "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://practitionerchoice.co.uk " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.practitionerchoice.co.uk " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">practitionerchoice.co.uk " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.practitionerchoice.co.uk which are the main UK distributers and can also sell worldwide.I have been informed that practitionerchoice.co.uk (1880 Life) no longer ships to some destinations, specifically Australia and New Zealand where there are local distributors. I have only been able to locate a couple of online stores selling the product in this region, and the prices are significantly greater than that sourced from the UK. The cost of 60 capsules of Salvestrol Platinum is around 20% higher than purchasing 90 capsules from 1880 Life - that works out to 80% more per capsule. Are you able to recommend another UK source to purchase from, preferably one which will not charge the VAT-inclusive price fro international sales? Thanks. Hoggle Fri, 04 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT On May 03, 2012 4:19 PM MJLSK wrote: Gerry, You haven't mentioned this UK source of salvestrols. Did you not know about it or are they not selling the same product? http://www.natural-alternative-products.co.uk/ "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.natural-alternative-products.co.uk/ " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.natural-alternative-products.co.uk/ Yes, this is the same product and this is a reputable company. So long as it says "Salvestrol Platinum" on the label then its the right product for cancer therapy. The source I usually recommend is www.practitionerchoice.co.uk which are the main UK distributers and can also sell worldwide. gerrypotter Thu, 03 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Gerry, You haven't mentioned this UK source of salvestrols. Did you not know about it or are they not selling the same product? http://www.natural-alternative-products.co.uk/ MJLSK Thu, 03 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Thank you Gerry. MJLSK Wed, 02 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT On May 02, 2012 11:03 PM MJLSK wrote: Gerry, He just completed his 2nd temodar cycle. His cycles are 5 days on, 23 days off temodar. The dose is 400mg per day. (he is 95kg, 182cm)I think he should take 2000 points on the days he gets temodar. On the remaining days he can take 6000 points. This way you can gear the dose around the temodar cycles to get the best overall effect.  I've done some background research on the expression of the enzyme CYP1B1 in glioblastomas. Basically the CYP1B1 enzyme is needed to activate the salvestrols, so if its present the salvestrols will work and if it is absent then the salvestrols will not work. Researchers at the MD Anderson Institute in the USA have found that CYP1B1 is present in 81% of glioblastomas. This means that salvestrols will have an 81% chance of working so its well worth giving them a try, Gerry gerrypotter Wed, 02 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Gerry, He just completed his 2nd temodar cycle. His cycles are 5 days on, 23 days off temodar. The dose is 400mg per day. (he is 95kg, 182cm) MJLSK Wed, 02 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Side effects tamoxifen - memory/thinking problems, soreness ovaries/womb. Had other probs as well - tiredness etc but they seem to be balanced by the sage and eve prim. Letzo - pains in muscles/joints. skin really really dry/ burning. Dizziness and not feeling 'quite there'. Tiredness. I took tamoxifen sept '11 - jan '12. The surgeon considered just by looking and palpating the breast it was much better. But on the scan there was little reduction - obviously, on the one plane. I changed to the letzo then, hoping for better results and took this for about 6 -8wks till skin driving me mad. Started taking salvestrols 18th Feb 2012. The last scan showed one of the tumours reducing by half, one reducing slightly, and the other showed great 'thinning' of the tumour, although it was the same length. Gerry, I went to see Dan talking in Galway as I wanted to ask him questions. What I was picking up was that the cancers were being 'put to sleep' - not killed, but deactivated... It seemed that they almost waited then to be reabsorbed by the body. I am using the liposomal vit c in short bursts with chlorella, and I think this has some effect - whether it oxygenates the cancer cells? - but it seems hard on my system and makes me feel like I felt for the first week or two when I was on the high dose salvestrol. Sorry - yes, I definately think there has been a huge diff since taking the salvestrols. Objectively this seems to be the case, looking at the scans. Gerry - before I took them I could here the cancer 'voice' very strongly - it really wanted to live -but then it just became quiet. My cranio believes it's a 60% tamoxifen, 40% salvestrols in the shrinkage. Thanks for the advice re indoles. Have been scrunching raw broccoli but will get supplement! Best wishes  Jennette jennette Wed, 02 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Jennette, thanks for your feedback about tamoxifen. I think tamoxifen is a good drug and its side effects are minimal compared with chemotherapy. What side effects did you get from tamoxifen and letrozole ? Since you have been on tamoxifen longer than salvestrols I was wondering if you had seen any tumour regression with the tamoxifen alone before you started the salvestrols, or has the tumour regression been more pronounced since taking the salvestrols. Tamoxifen at 15 mg/day combined with salvestrols at 12,000 points per day seems to be the way forward. Maybe you have hit on the best combination of drugs since they seem to be working well together. Indoles are interesting and also empower the salvestrols. They induce the CYP1B1 enzyme activity needed to metabolize salvestrols. The typical indoles are indole-3-carbinol and di-indoylmethane (DIM) and these can be obtained from supplements based on extracts of cruciferous vegetables. If you combined indoles with salvestrols and tamoxifen you could get an even better effect. gerrypotter Wed, 02 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT On May 02, 2012 9:11 AM MJLSK wrote: Hi Gerry, Thank you. Shall we go for 12,000 a day even though he is on Temodar?I think if you start on a low dose of 2000 points daily this can be gradually increased to 6000 points. You can see how he does at this dose intially before making a decision to go to 12,000 points daily. I know this high dose can be expensive but you should be able to tell within 3 months if this is working. This is generally the amount of time it takes to see a reduction in tumour size and so if he tries it for 3 months you will know if it is working. What is the timing of his Temodar medication and what dose of this does he take ? gerrypotter Wed, 02 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry, Really interested in what you were saying about tamoxifen. It seemed that when I was not taking the salvestrols my body was asking for a higher dose of tamoxifen - to begin with about 30mg/day. It was also thinking about combining this with evista. I found the side effects hard and balanced them with sage and evening primrose. But ovaries and womb became painful and I tried letrozole for a while which helped sort out the pain - but they again had side effects which were difficult, such as dizziness. The body seems happy now I am on the salvestrols to take less tamoxifen - 15mg/day. (I am eight and a half stone). What do you think? I read recently about indoles which seem to empower tamoxifen and I wonder do the salvestrols empower also? Unfortunately I am going through a very upsetting divorce so this is really difficult for my immune system. I have been doing much emotional work during the past year as I actually felt relief when I heard I had cancer that I did not have to live any more. A friend of mine who also felt this when she found she had cancer said it's like jumping off a cliff then trying to claw your way back up!  (I talk about the body wanting something as I am a kinesiologist, but main line medicine these days is beginning to acknowledge the bodies intelligence - including 'brain' cells in organs such as the gut and heart- and that what goes through our consciousness is generally tiny in comparison to the sorting of info generally in the body) Hope you have some sun today after all the rain. Very best wishes Jennette       jennette Wed, 02 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry, Thank you. Shall we go for 12,000 a day even though he is on Temodar? MJLSK Wed, 02 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT On May 01, 2012 8:50 PM MJLSK wrote: Hi Gerry, I wrote here a while ago about my husband with GBM. Yesterday we found out that his tumour is unmethylated which is really bad. GMB has a grim prognossis of 12-14 months with "optimal" treatment and only 2-5% chance of 5 year survival   :(  Unmethylated patients statistically perform even worse..  You said that you don't know if salvestrols would work agains GBM.. What would you recommend then? Do you know anything about this cancer, any supplements that could help? We are still young and only had our first baby 2 months ago.. I'm devastated :((I think you should give the salvestrols a try and to be really effective you need to aim for a dose of 12,000 points daily. He should start off at 2,000 points daily and gradually increase the dose. The problem with treatments for GBM and other forms of brain cancer is getting the drug across the blood brain barrier. Very few molecules can do this which is why temozalomide is one of the few drugs used to treat GBM. This is why we were excited to discover salvestrol T31G which passes the blood brain barrier and was very active against brain tumour cells in the laboratory. We have formulated this in to salvestrol platinum which is why I think it should work against Glioblastoma Multiforme. gerrypotter Tue, 01 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry, I wrote here a while ago about my husband with GBM. Yesterday we found out that his tumour is unmethylated which is really bad. GMB has a grim prognossis of 12-14 months with "optimal" treatment and only 2-5% chance of 5 year survival   :(  Unmethylated patients statistically perform even worse..  You said that you don't know if salvestrols would work agains GBM.. What would you recommend then? Do you know anything about this cancer, any supplements that could help? We are still young and only had our first baby 2 months ago.. I'm devastated :(( MJLSK Tue, 01 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Jennette, I think salvestrols are the "magic bullet" for cancer which is why I recommend them. You really have gone for it with 12,000 points per day which seems to be a very effective dose. I think it also helps when you understand how salvestrols are working and that they need activation by enzymes in the body. Like a true "Magic Bullet" salvestrols are targetted to the tumour cells and selectively kill the cancer cells without side effects. I think the tamoxifen may also have helped. I have done a lot of research on tamoxifen and it was tamoxifen that lead ultimately to the discovery of salvestrols due to their relationship with estrogens and phytoestrogens. I was wondering what dose of tamoxifen you have been on ? The combination of tamoxifen with salvestrols makes a lot of sense for treating and preventing breast cancer so its good to know that the two can be taken safely together, Gerry gerrypotter Tue, 01 May 2012 00:00:00 GMT Niacin is Vitamin B3 and this is available in most multivitamin tablets. Niacin is needed by the reductase enzyme that helps the salvestrol activation. Usually there is sufficient in the diet but a multivitamin tablet makes sure there is enough available. gerrypotter Mon, 30 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT On apr 30, 2012 2:50 jennette wrote: Dear Gerry - I went for it and am taking 2 salvestrol platinum 2,000 three times a day!I am also using the salvestrol cream. I have read all you have said about helping the salvestrols work with niacin, etc and am taking these vitamins etc. too. I supose Gerry, that if the salvestrols do work they are really 'the magic bullets' for cancer. It is funny -when I started this journey of looking for something to shift the cancer, my son said 'there are no magic bullets for cancer mum - give up, you must have the op'. It is just so difficult to believe they can really be that good. I took your papers in to my surgeon, but of course he was looking for clinical trials. I have been telling my doctor - who was very interested - the professor of our local dental hosp - who was again very interested - and recently an eye surgeon - who seemed delighted at the thought that you had found something which was plant based and worked so well. My hairdresser - a very knowledgeable lady-  researched your info on the internet when I explained how the salvestrols work - and she talks to so many people. Doing my best Gerry. Best wishes and thank you so much - it is so lovely to actually be able to talk to you here. Jennette    Please tell me about the Niacin working with the Salvestrol. Is this something making salvestrol working faster? Just checking for my mum with colon cancer again. Do not want to miss out of anything. So happy about this product. iduna Mon, 30 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Gerry - I went for it and am taking 2 salvestrol platinum 2,000 three times a day!I am also using the salvestrol cream. I have read all you have said about helping the salvestrols work with niacin, etc and am taking these vitamins etc. too. I supose Gerry, that if the salvestrols do work they are really 'the magic bullets' for cancer. It is funny -when I started this journey of looking for something to shift the cancer, my son said 'there are no magic bullets for cancer mum - give up, you must have the op'. It is just so difficult to believe they can really be that good. I took your papers in to my surgeon, but of course he was looking for clinical trials. I have been telling my doctor - who was very interested - the professor of our local dental hosp - who was again very interested - and recently an eye surgeon - who seemed delighted at the thought that you had found something which was plant based and worked so well. My hairdresser - a very knowledgeable lady-  researched your info on the internet when I explained how the salvestrols work - and she talks to so many people. Doing my best Gerry. Best wishes and thank you so much - it is so lovely to actually be able to talk to you here. Jennette     jennette Mon, 30 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Jennette, thanks for sharing your good news about the reduction in tumour size. I think this is the salvestrols at work and hopefully your next scan in 3 months time will be even better. It breaks my heart too to think about all the people with cancer that could be helped with salvestrols. All these people with cancer have the CYP1B1 enzyme in every cancer cell in their body just waiting to activate salvestrols. Without salvestrols the CYP1B1 enzyme can do nothing and the cancer will continue growing and multiplying. With salvestrols the CYP1B1 enzyme comes alive to do its job of activating salvestrols to metabolites that destroy the cancer cells from within. So I think everyone with cancer should know about salvestrols and their powerful anticancer effects. Unfortunately we are not allowed to advertise salvestrols for cancer and so the news is usually spread by word of mouth. So I am pleased someone told you about salvestrols and they are doing their job as hoped. I was wondering what dose of salvestrols you have been taking over the past 2 months ?, Gerry gerrypotter Mon, 30 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT So on friday I had the scan and found the cancers significantly reduced in size - after taking the tamoxifen for 7 months and salvestrols for 2 months. I am delighted of course, and hoping that the next scan in three months may show nothing at all. It broke my heart seeing the fear of the women waiting in the clinic --- Is there anything we can do to make it a little easier to see information on salvestrols? I did not link into salvestrols except by looking them up directly, after having been told about them.  Sending you many many good wishes, Jennette jennette Sun, 29 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Gerry, I hope you are well. I have been very nervous about going back to the surgeon for a review just last friday. I found I had breast cancer in Jan 2011 - three small tumours - and did not want the mastectomy which would have been standard procedure. I tried so many herbs etc to reduce the cancer but only seemed to be slowing its growth, so I asked my doctor to put me on tamoxifen in sept 11, and continued research. It was only in Feb 2012 I heard about salvestrols. jennette Sun, 29 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Salvestrol Vegetarian capsules contain 100 points. These are the suitable for general health maintenance but not strong enough for cancer therapy. This product contains 10 mg of salvestrols equivalent to 100 points. The typical salvestrol supplement available on the internet from eBay or Amazon is this 100 point product. If the product does not state how many points thhere are on it then generally they are the 100 point capsules. The product salvestrol platinum has been specially formulated to be strong enough for cancer therapy and is avillable as 1000 point and 2000 point capsules. In the USA and Cannada the only registered product is salvestrol platinum 1000, and this is available from www.salvestrol.ca In the UK, Europe and the rest of the world the product is salvestrol platinum 2000, available from www.practitionerchoice.co.uk or www.naturopharma.com So if you are in the USA the only product available is salvestrol platinum 1000 so you just need to take twice as many capsules to get the same effect as salvestrol platinum 2000. gerrypotter Fri, 27 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 23, 2012 6:59 PM gerrypotter wrote: The supplement salvestrol platinum contains 4 salvestrols formulated together. These are salvestrol T31G, T55, Q40 and Q66. The main salvestrols is Q40 and this is the best overall. Salvestrol P55 is the same as T55. This was found to be good at inducing higher levels of the CYP1B1 enzyme in cancer cells and so helps the metabolism of Q40. Salvestrol T55 also has better antimetastatic activity so it has been incorporated into the salvestrol platinum product. To find more information on salvestrols go to www.goarticles.com "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.goarticles.com " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.goarticles.com and search on salvestrol.Anyone, Do you know the number of points in Salvestrol Vegetarian capsules? A friend of mine bought some on eBay after I told him about Salvestrols. I can't find anything except the web sites say it is sufficient. I think the only way to go is Platinum 2000 sourced in England. capted Fri, 27 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT On apr 25, 2012 10:27 gerrypotter wrote: Just found this article on someone with incurable mesothelioma who has responded to salvestrols: A diagnosis of mesothelioma (asbestos induced lung cancer) is usually followed by a fairly swift death sentence. There is currently no effective conventional treatment and most doctors give patients a life expectancy of no more than six to 12 months after a tumour develops.   But Alan Stafford, 63, is living proof that however bleak the outlook, you should not accept the prognosis lying down. He has confounded NHS doctors and oncology specialists by proving there is an alternative path – by taking salvestrols, herbal medicine, and following an organic diet.   Alan first developed symptoms of the cancerous disease back in August 2008, but was so determined to live long enough to celebrate his ruby wedding and wife Jenny’s 60thbirthday in January 2010, he refused to give up hope.   Speaking from his bungalow in Great Sankey,Warrington, he says: “You can either sit down and die, or you can do something about it. You can’t just give up. It’s so easy, believe me, to give up, especially when you have just had chemotherapy, because it does make you ill. I just decided there must be something else I can try.”   Mesothelioma is a cancer caused by asbestos. Frighteningly it takes just a few asbestos fibres to lodge in the lung’s lining, perhaps many decades before, to wreak havoc today. As an apprentice joiner more than 40 years ago, Alan recalls regularly having to work with materials containing asbestos. He believes he may also have come into contact with it in his later career as a self-employed heavy goods vehicle fitter. Whenever his fate was sealed, exposure to the toxic material has now turned his world upside down. He first noticed a problem with his health in August 2008. Exhaustion, coupled with crushing chest pains in the middle of the night, resulted in him being rushed intoWarringtonHospitalaccident and emergency with a suspected heart attack. Various tests followed, but it took until December later that year for doctors to diagnose a cancer tumour on his left lung. In fact at first they thought it was so inconsequential they allowed him to fly off on a pre-booked break to Benidorm - his first foreign trip for ten years. But back inBritaina week later, the holiday really was over. He was admitted toBroadGreenHospitalinLiverpoolfor a biopsy just before Christmas and then finally heard the devastating news on December 30th, his 62ndbirthday. “We were told it was mesothelioma, which of course we had never even heard of. We didn’t know what it was.” he says. “I just said, thank goodness it’s not lung cancer,” Jenny recalls wryly. Very quickly the full reality of the situation hit home. “They said it was a terminal illness,” Alan adds. “The family were devastated when we first told them. My youngest son, Andy, took it really badly.” Alan was sent for two sessions of chemotherapy at the specialist Clatterbridge cancer hospital on the Wirral, but his oncologist acknowledged the side effects were so severe, the treatment seemed to be doing him more harm than good. Ultimately he ended up with fluid on his lung. Doctors arranged for a chest drain which removed four and a half litres of fluid from his body, but the drain unfortunately also burst the tumour and sucked some of the cancer cells through the chest wall and allowed them to lodge on the outside of his left shoulder. Jenny teasingly acknowledges now: “You looked like the hunchback of Notre Dame” – a comment that would have been far too insensitive a year ago. For him this was the low point. He had a rapidly expanding tumour the size of a rugby ball on his back, which was so large and hard he couldn’t sit back properly. “It wasn’t very comfortable but it was more the psychological effect. You really were aware of your condition.” Alan remembers. “Even wearing loose-fittingclothing you could see it. It made you feel worse. It brought it to your mind all the time.” It was at this stage, he and Jenny reluctantly came to the conclusion conventional cancer treatment had no more to offer and decided to explore alternative medicine. In February 2009 they took matters into their own hands and went for a consultation withCheshiremedical herbalist, Amanda Cutbill. As well as a herbal medicine degree, she has also received specialist salvestrol therapy training atBristol’s renowned Penny Brohn complementary cancer care centre. Alan was bowled over with the personal attention. “The minute we came away from her, we felt as though something was going to be done. She was absolutely brilliant. Honestly I can’t praise Amanda enough. She inspired us.” Amanda prescribed a range of herbal treatments to build up his immune system and improve his breathing, pulse and liver function. She also recommended a long-term course of Salvestrols, which contain highly concentrated extracts of fruits such as tangerine, strawberry, blackberry and blueberry. And to get the maximum benefit from this medicine, she advised him to follow a completely organic diet. Alan also has a mistletoe injection three times a week to boost his immune system’s ability to fight cancer cells. Jenny changed her shopping habits immediately and now only buys organic products, even down to organic salt and pepper. She has also started cultivating her own vegetable plot in the back garden. And Alan increased his intake of fruit, vegetables and fish and cut down on red meat and dairy products. Amanda recalls: “The results were dramatic. Within three months Alan’s tumour was receding. He was less breathless, had more energy, a healthy appetite and his pulse rate had come down to normal.” In October 2009, Alan’s oncologist was so astounded by the results of a scan, he sent him back for another one, just to make sure. Alan recalls: “He said he thought he was looking at someone else’s scan. He was amazed. He said – mesothelioma doesn’t act like that. And told me to keep on doing what I was doing – it was obviously working.” Alan now feels better than at any time in the last 20 months. He used to be exhausted by a few short steps, now he is walking up hills and embarking on DIY projects for his two sons. “I am convinced that the salvestrols I am taking are what is keeping me going,” he says. On Sunday 17thJanuary, Alan and Jenny Stafford renewed their wedding vows before family and friends in an emotional ceremony they thought he would never live to see. Jenny recalls: “It was wonderful the fact that Alan was still able to walk down the aisle. It was just very emotional.” Now, the couple treat every new day as a blessing. Alan continues to amaze NHS doctors with his miraculous improvement. The tumour is vastly reduced and the cancer no longer visible from outside his body. “You have not got to let it ruin your life,” says Alan. “You have got to keep going. You have got to stay positive.” His next goal is to attend the wedding of his youngest son, Andy, on June 12th– and perhaps even plan another holiday. And he certainly intends to stick to his organic diet and keep taking the salvestrols and herbal medicine.HI Gerry Please tell me if you think this Amanda Cutbill herbalist could help my mum get better faster. The story sounds amazing. We need to learn more about diets and herbs. Kind rgds iduna iduna Thu, 26 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Just found this article on someone with incurable mesothelioma who has responded to salvestrols: A diagnosis of mesothelioma (asbestos induced lung cancer) is usually followed by a fairly swift death sentence. There is currently no effective conventional treatment and most doctors give patients a life expectancy of no more than six to 12 months after a tumour develops.   But Alan Stafford, 63, is living proof that however bleak the outlook, you should not accept the prognosis lying down. He has confounded NHS doctors and oncology specialists by proving there is an alternative path – by taking salvestrols, herbal medicine, and following an organic diet.   Alan first developed symptoms of the cancerous disease back in August 2008, but was so determined to live long enough to celebrate his ruby wedding and wife Jenny’s 60thbirthday in January 2010, he refused to give up hope.   Speaking from his bungalow in Great Sankey,Warrington, he says: “You can either sit down and die, or you can do something about it. You can’t just give up. It’s so easy, believe me, to give up, especially when you have just had chemotherapy, because it does make you ill. I just decided there must be something else I can try.”   Mesothelioma is a cancer caused by asbestos. Frighteningly it takes just a few asbestos fibres to lodge in the lung’s lining, perhaps many decades before, to wreak havoc today. As an apprentice joiner more than 40 years ago, Alan recalls regularly having to work with materials containing asbestos. He believes he may also have come into contact with it in his later career as a self-employed heavy goods vehicle fitter. Whenever his fate was sealed, exposure to the toxic material has now turned his world upside down. He first noticed a problem with his health in August 2008. Exhaustion, coupled with crushing chest pains in the middle of the night, resulted in him being rushed intoWarringtonHospitalaccident and emergency with a suspected heart attack. Various tests followed, but it took until December later that year for doctors to diagnose a cancer tumour on his left lung. In fact at first they thought it was so inconsequential they allowed him to fly off on a pre-booked break to Benidorm - his first foreign trip for ten years. But back inBritaina week later, the holiday really was over. He was admitted toBroadGreenHospitalinLiverpoolfor a biopsy just before Christmas and then finally heard the devastating news on December 30th, his 62ndbirthday. “We were told it was mesothelioma, which of course we had never even heard of. We didn’t know what it was.” he says. “I just said, thank goodness it’s not lung cancer,” Jenny recalls wryly. Very quickly the full reality of the situation hit home. “They said it was a terminal illness,” Alan adds. “The family were devastated when we first told them. My youngest son, Andy, took it really badly.” Alan was sent for two sessions of chemotherapy at the specialist Clatterbridge cancer hospital on the Wirral, but his oncologist acknowledged the side effects were so severe, the treatment seemed to be doing him more harm than good. Ultimately he ended up with fluid on his lung. Doctors arranged for a chest drain which removed four and a half litres of fluid from his body, but the drain unfortunately also burst the tumour and sucked some of the cancer cells through the chest wall and allowed them to lodge on the outside of his left shoulder. Jenny teasingly acknowledges now: “You looked like the hunchback of Notre Dame” – a comment that would have been far too insensitive a year ago. For him this was the low point. He had a rapidly expanding tumour the size of a rugby ball on his back, which was so large and hard he couldn’t sit back properly. “It wasn’t very comfortable but it was more the psychological effect. You really were aware of your condition.” Alan remembers. “Even wearing loose-fittingclothing you could see it. It made you feel worse. It brought it to your mind all the time.” It was at this stage, he and Jenny reluctantly came to the conclusion conventional cancer treatment had no more to offer and decided to explore alternative medicine. In February 2009 they took matters into their own hands and went for a consultation withCheshiremedical herbalist, Amanda Cutbill. As well as a herbal medicine degree, she has also received specialist salvestrol therapy training atBristol’s renowned Penny Brohn complementary cancer care centre. Alan was bowled over with the personal attention. “The minute we came away from her, we felt as though something was going to be done. She was absolutely brilliant. Honestly I can’t praise Amanda enough. She inspired us.” Amanda prescribed a range of herbal treatments to build up his immune system and improve his breathing, pulse and liver function. She also recommended a long-term course of Salvestrols, which contain highly concentrated extracts of fruits such as tangerine, strawberry, blackberry and blueberry. And to get the maximum benefit from this medicine, she advised him to follow a completely organic diet. Alan also has a mistletoe injection three times a week to boost his immune system’s ability to fight cancer cells. Jenny changed her shopping habits immediately and now only buys organic products, even down to organic salt and pepper. She has also started cultivating her own vegetable plot in the back garden. And Alan increased his intake of fruit, vegetables and fish and cut down on red meat and dairy products. Amanda recalls: “The results were dramatic. Within three months Alan’s tumour was receding. He was less breathless, had more energy, a healthy appetite and his pulse rate had come down to normal.” In October 2009, Alan’s oncologist was so astounded by the results of a scan, he sent him back for another one, just to make sure. Alan recalls: “He said he thought he was looking at someone else’s scan. He was amazed. He said – mesothelioma doesn’t act like that. And told me to keep on doing what I was doing – it was obviously working.” Alan now feels better than at any time in the last 20 months. He used to be exhausted by a few short steps, now he is walking up hills and embarking on DIY projects for his two sons. “I am convinced that the salvestrols I am taking are what is keeping me going,” he says. On Sunday 17thJanuary, Alan and Jenny Stafford renewed their wedding vows before family and friends in an emotional ceremony they thought he would never live to see. Jenny recalls: “It was wonderful the fact that Alan was still able to walk down the aisle. It was just very emotional.” Now, the couple treat every new day as a blessing. Alan continues to amaze NHS doctors with his miraculous improvement. The tumour is vastly reduced and the cancer no longer visible from outside his body. “You have not got to let it ruin your life,” says Alan. “You have got to keep going. You have got to stay positive.” His next goal is to attend the wedding of his youngest son, Andy, on June 12th– and perhaps even plan another holiday. And he certainly intends to stick to his organic diet and keep taking the salvestrols and herbal medicine. gerrypotter Wed, 25 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT The supplement salvestrol platinum contains 4 salvestrols formulated together. These are salvestrol T31G, T55, Q40 and Q66. The main salvestrols is Q40 and this is the best overall. Salvestrol P55 is the same as T55. This was found to be good at inducing higher levels of the CYP1B1 enzyme in cancer cells and so helps the metabolism of Q40. Salvestrol T55 also has better antimetastatic activity so it has been incorporated into the salvestrol platinum product. To find more information on salvestrols go to www.goarticles.com and search on salvestrol. gerrypotter Mon, 23 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry, I gave you a day off from my posts. ;-) My further personal research on Salvestrols came up with P55 as being a new development and more effective form of Salvestrols. Can't find much on it. Can you elaborate? Thanks. Ed capted Mon, 23 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gery, I gave you a day off from my posts. ;-) My further personal research on Salvestrols came up with P55 as being a new development and more effective form of Salvestrols. Can't find much on it. Can you elaborate? Thanks. Ed capted Mon, 23 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 23, 2012 1:05 PM kerdes wrote: My husband has stg 4 cc most mets to liver.  His liver is very enlarged and causing pain.  We tried 5 chemo treatment and they are not working.  The toxicity level for him was way too much.  We are seeing a herbologist and this is what he is on: Essic tea noni juice food enzyme vit c lecithin clean start (colon cleanse with cillium husk) paw paw ionic minerals greensone (green veg pill) baking soda and honey iron coral calcium he has been on this for 3 weeks and is still having pain and fullness in his liver.  Do you think salvestrols would help him?  Could it be taken with this other stuff?  We are in the US where could I get them? KerryYour herbalist has recommended some good supplements that will all work alongside salvestrols. I think the salvestrols will help with the liver mets and you should start your husband on a dose of 2 salvestrol platinum (1000 point) capsules daily and then increase to 6 capsules daily for maximum effect. You can get this product in the USA from www.salvestrol.ca and www.fosterhealth.ca   Essiac tea and noni juice both contain salvestrols and so are useful additional sources of these nutrients. gerrypotter Mon, 23 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT My husband has stg 4 cc most mets to liver.  His liver is very enlarged and causing pain.  We tried 5 chemo treatment and they are not working.  The toxicity level for him was way too much.  We are seeing a herbologist and this is what he is on: Essic tea noni juice food enzyme vit c lecithin clean start (colon cleanse with cillium husk) paw paw ionic minerals greensone (green veg pill) baking soda and honey iron coral calcium he has been on this for 3 weeks and is still having pain and fullness in his liver.  Do you think salvestrols would help him?  Could it be taken with this other stuff?  We are in the US where could I get them? Kerry kerdes Mon, 23 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Mark I've heard the same thing back from many people that there are no bad side effects, only good ones. This is important to know since if you want a lasting effect you need to know that it is safe for long term treatment. I was pleased to learn of a 5 year survivor of breast cancer who also recommends salvestrols and here is her story: I would like to say that I swear by a supplement called Salvestrol Platinum. I've been taking it since my diagnosis of stage 3 breast cancer 5 years ago in 2007. Like all natural things, there's no double-blind trials offering scientific 'proof' but the theory behind it makes sense to me so I'm going to keep taking it as long as I live, as it is meant to be highly 'anti-cancer' and as a bonus it seems to do wonders for my skin. After diagnosis, I stopped taking lymecyclene and thought I would just have to put up with nasty spots. But as soon as I started taking Salvestrols the improvement in my skin was astonishing and fast. They are not expensive at about £1 per day. I'm lucky that I can afford it - I buy supplements and good food rather than spend my money on meals out, etc. That's my suggestion. Good luck with whatever you decide to try.   It's not my profession or anything to do with making money. This is material I researched myself upon diagnosis, because I wanted to try and help myself rather than rely just on what conventional medicine offers/insists on, and I think this advice will help others who have breast cancer. The main evidence I have is that I have recovered from cancer and feel much better than before I was diagnosed - and I mean both physically and mentally better. When I stray from my routine of diet and supplements, it shows in my skin very quickly - so I have come to believe my skin is a 'barometer' of my internal health.Salvestrols are based on the idea that the anti-fungal, anti-bacterial and anti-cancer properties of fruits and veg reside in the skin of the fruit and have been largely destroyed by food processing and the last 6 decades of industrial farming. So even if you eat lots of fruit and veg, they may no longer provide you with the healthy nutrients they did when agriculture was more natural, when the plants had to use their own immune systems to fight disease - rather than pesticides and fungicides doing this for them. So Salvestrols are made from older varieties of fruits and veg, ones that have not been industrially farmed, and therefore retain their own immune defenses which are beneficial when eaten. In terms of cancer, salvestrols are said to be able to break through the protein coating of cancer cells, and trigger an enzyme inside the cancer cell to make it die. That's the theory. Best wishes, B   gerrypotter Mon, 23 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Ed, I think you are doing the right thing taking Zytiga first. I would be very interested to know how you respond to Zytiga so please keep me informed. Some people have said they start feeling better within a few days of taking Zytiga so I really hope it helps you. I was interested to hear about your Agent Orange exposure. Agent Orange is 2,4,5 Trichlorophenol and Dioxin. Direct exposure to Agent Orange results in a chloracne skin rash as result of dioxin induced CYP1A1 enzyme expression. Dioxin plays havoc with all the CYP enymes resulting in cancer induction so your prostate cancer may be a direct result of Agent Orange exposure since it is known this causes elevated cancer risks. As far as juicing is concerned then you do not need to do this if you are taking salvestrol supplements since each 1000 point capsule is equivalent to 10 kg of organic produce. However I think fruits and vegetables goodness goes beyond the salvestrol content and their are many other important nutrients that can be obtained from fruits and vegetables. People who combine a healthy intake of organic fruits and vegetables with taking salvestrol supplements seem to do the best overall. gerrypotter Sun, 22 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry For me the side effects were none other than after about a month I started to feel better. Then after two months the pain I had was getting better. And Now I have been on them for 6 months I think and we are really starting to see the results. Still showing signs of cancer but far less. Will keep taking them for ever. The side effects are none for me.   Mark  bundy Sat, 21 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 20, 2012 8:54 PM capted wrote: Hi Gerry, I have HRPC and am being furnished medication by the Veterans Administration (because of Agent Orange exposure) and have a civilian Oncologist. I had a radical prostetectomy in 2009 and subsequent radiation plus Zoladex. I was very exited to learn about the success of Zytiga. I was even more excited to learn that it has been made available to some Veterans without having gone through Chemo. I am meeting May 4 with a Veterans Administration  Onclogist to convince them to furnish me Zytiga off formulary. While researching Zytiga, I was fortunate enough to stumble on this web site and learn about Salvestrol. I have largely changed my diet to more fruits and vegetables, organic if available. My question is if I take Salvstrol, is it necessary to juice? I think that Salvestrol is the reason for all the cures reported with juicing and orgainic, vegan diets. My Onclolgist says that if it wasn't for the rising PSA, no one would suspect that I had cancer. All the best, EdHello once again Gerry, Above is a quote of my original message which you replied to. Thanks for the speedy reply. Reading between the lines, One can get a lot more Salvestrol by the capsules, with less work, than by squeezing vegetables and grass. I would like to add, in case it may help someone, that I recently had a Bone Scan and CT scan and there was no metastisis. Cancer diagnosed in January 2009 (Gleason 9), Prostate removed March 2009. HRPC PSA rising. I am a proponent of Vitamin D. I live in sunny Florida and had a Vitamin D3 level of 27ng/ml. LOOOOW! In February 2010, I started taking 10,000 I.E. of Vitamin D3 daily. I am now up to 68 ng/ml. I also take about 1 tsp of sodium bicarbonate a day. I mostly have normal ph of urine. After a good steak or pulled pork, I  go acid. This is about once a month. I plan to go through the Zytiga protocol first then continue with Salvestrol. I don't want to start Salvestrol now and mess up the results of the Zytiga which will be tracked by the VA. Thank you for discovering the power of Salvestrol. Ed capted Sat, 21 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT "Hello Dr. Potter: Thank you for sharing Ken`s story. I just finished reading about DCA and how it works by reactivating the mitochondria in ca cells resulting in apoptosis. Any similarities to SP`s activation of the CYP1B1 enzyme which then leads to apoptosis ? In my use of 6000 pts. of SP daily do I need to be concerned about Tumor Lysis Syndrome ? Are you 100 % positive that it is a good thing that testosterone be reduced to zero percent as I have read that estrogen { Dr. Lee } is the culprit or are you only referring to situations where one`s pc is hormone resistant and then only during the treatment phase as a certain level of testosterone is essential in men`s health ????"   Hi Don you raised the issue about DCA so I thought I would give my opinion on this. DCA has been touted as a cure for cancer, but the claims for this are unfounded. DCA is a highly toxic and dangerous chemical that is poisonous to the liver. DCA is dichloroacetic acid. Any chemist that has handled this will tell you it burns the skin. Many acids such as sulphuric acid and hydrochloric acid are toxic to cancer cells, but do you really want to ingest such compounds ? Its the same with DCA and TCA they are chlorinated hydrocarbons that are amongst the most toxic compounds to the mitochondria of the liver. In fact one of the laboratory classes that we teach to undergraduate Pharmacy students at the University is to learn about drug metabolism and the toxicity of dichloroethanol due to its metabolism to the hepatotoxic metabolite dichloroacetic acid (DCA). So ingesting DCA would cause severe liver toxicity which could be fatal. Have you noticed that all the studies on DCA referred to lab based studies on cancer cells and there are no examples of anyone that has actually taken DCA. So I would not raise any ones hopes of DCA and would advice people to steer well clear of this chemical. Zytiga is able to induce total androgen blockade and reduce testosterone and estrogens to zero levels. This is good for prostate cancer therapy since the prostate cancer cells are deprived of their growth factors and undergo aopoptosis and die naturally. This can only happen if all the sources of androgens and eatrogens are cut off which happens as a consequence of Zytigas inhibition of the enzyme CYP17. Although this is a good thing for cancer therapy, it is not a good thing for the whole body and androgen deprivation therapy carries with it its own side effects due to loss of testosterone which helps protect the bones from demineralisation. In the long term absence of testosterone the bones may become weak and liable to fracture, which is a possible long term side effect of Zytiga treatment. There are no such complications with salvestrols which allow normal healthy levels of testosterone to be maintained whilst still attacking the tumours via CYP1B1 bioactivation. gerrypotter Sat, 21 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Mark, thanks for recommending salvestrols to other people you know with cancer. You are the best person to recommend them since you are taking them at a high dose and have not reported any side effects. Have you noticed any side effects good or bad with these supplements ? Scientists at the Danna Farber Institute in the USA have found CYP1B1 to be expressed in all types of leukaemias and lymphomas. In practise these types of cancer respond quickly to salvestrols and complete recoveries from leukaemia within 3 months of taking salvestrols have been reported at a dosage of only 2000 points daily. Everyone that I know who had leukaemia or lymphoma has responded very well to salvestrols so I recommend them highly for this type of cancer, Gerry gerrypotter Sat, 21 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 21, 2012 10:03 a.m. gerrypotter wrote: Dear Ed, you've certainly done your research and I am pleased you have found out about salvestrols which I really think will help you. I have just heard back from a 10 year survivor of prostate cancer who was diagnosed in 2002 and has been taking salvestrol platinum for the last 8 years. He remains disease free with no side effects from long term use of the salvestrols. I think you are right when you say that the reason for the cures reported from juicing organic fruit and veg is due to the salvestrols and I've estimated you can get about 100 points per killogram of vegetables. This also explains the success of the Gerson Diet which also uses high levels of fruit and veg and Dr Gerson himself claimed to cure over 200 cancer patients in his practise so how can these cures be ignored when they all add up in the light of salvestrol content. Zytiga could also help and works even when the prostate cancer has been deemed to be hormone refractory or castrate resistant. Zytiga can work when other hormonal agents have failed because it causes total androgen blockade resulting in zero testosterone levels. In the complete absence of androgens the prostate tumours undergo apoptosis and die off naturally. The bone and brain metastases also die off and there is an associated reduction in bone pain as the metastatic tumours regress. Some people are able to reduce their pain medication shortly after taking Zytiga and others have reported increased energy and mobility. There are however risks with long term usage of hormonal agents so perhaps you should give the salvestrols a 3 month trial before taking futher hormonal therapy since it may not be necessary. Here is the case of the 10 year prostate cancer survivor who recommends salvestrol platinum: In early 2002 I was diagnosed with prostate cancer after a biopsy. It was moderately aggressive (Gleason = 6) and involved both lobes. When the PSA rise got to be alarming I decided to try other options, since the cancer had already metastasized to other areas of my body. I was told that the doctors could offer no cure and that at the rate the PSA was doubling I would likely live less than 5 years . In 2004, I started taking Salvestrol Platinum daily after hearing about it from a friend who had heard Professor Gerry Potter speak at a lecture inPenticton,BCCanada. When I next went to the Cancer Clinic I had had another PSA test. Interestingly, it seemed to indicate a possible slowing of the tumour growth. When I returned home from the Cancer Clinic I used an equation to find the doubling time and I was able to determine that the PSA had previously doubled every 4 months. This is very bad news because a short doubling time indicates fast tumour growth. However, during the first two months of taking Salvestrol the doubling time lengthened to 20 months. During the next three months the doubling time lengthened again to 40 months (which is very good). This means that the tumour growth rate had slowed to a crawl from its very rapid growth only 5 months earlier. Based on these results, I calculated I will die of other causes before the cancer is a concern. I have been very conservative in my dosages. One capsule of Salvestrol Platinum per day was used during the first two months and then increased to two capsules per day for the last three months. When I first saw my urologist after taking the salvestrol supplements he declared that the PSA result must be a lab error. The next time I saw him, with an even better result, he could see that this was not a lab error and he wanted to know what I was doing. He asked for information about Salvestrol and said that he was going to investigate it. He said that I seemed to be on the cutting edge of current research. Based on my experience and the information that I have gathered, I recommend Salvestrol Therapy to anyone that has cancer of any kind or is at risk of cancer. I am writing this for people to read because I believe that a great deal of unnecessary suffering can be avoided by using Salvestrol as a preventative (low dosage) or a curative (higher dosage) for all types of cancer. It is safe to take even at high doses and can be used alone or in conjunction with other treatments recommended by doctors. If the situation is not an emergency or the doctors have given up, then giving Salvestrol a trial for three months seems like a good plan. Ken,CanadaHi Gerry Have just heard of my sisters best friend whose mother has got lukemeia. Do you know if CYP1b1 is present in this type of cancer. I would love her to try them if it would be beneficial.   Mark bundy Sat, 21 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Ed, you've certainly done your research and I am pleased you have found out about salvestrols which I really think will help you. I have just heard back from a 10 year survivor of prostate cancer who was diagnosed in 2002 and has been taking salvestrol platinum for the last 8 years. He remains disease free with no side effects from long term use of the salvestrols. I think you are right when you say that the reason for the cures reported from juicing organic fruit and veg is due to the salvestrols and I've estimated you can get about 100 points per killogram of vegetables. This also explains the success of the Gerson Diet which also uses high levels of fruit and veg and Dr Gerson himself claimed to cure over 200 cancer patients in his practise so how can these cures be ignored when they all add up in the light of salvestrol content. Zytiga could also help and works even when the prostate cancer has been deemed to be hormone refractory or castrate resistant. Zytiga can work when other hormonal agents have failed because it causes total androgen blockade resulting in zero testosterone levels. In the complete absence of androgens the prostate tumours undergo apoptosis and die off naturally. The bone and brain metastases also die off and there is an associated reduction in bone pain as the metastatic tumours regress. Some people are able to reduce their pain medication shortly after taking Zytiga and others have reported increased energy and mobility. There are however risks with long term usage of hormonal agents so perhaps you should give the salvestrols a 3 month trial before taking futher hormonal therapy since it may not be necessary. Here is the case of the 10 year prostate cancer survivor who recommends salvestrol platinum: In early 2002 I was diagnosed with prostate cancer after a biopsy. It was moderately aggressive (Gleason = 6) and involved both lobes. When the PSA rise got to be alarming I decided to try other options, since the cancer had already metastasized to other areas of my body. I was told that the doctors could offer no cure and that at the rate the PSA was doubling I would likely live less than 5 years . In 2004, I started taking Salvestrol Platinum daily after hearing about it from a friend who had heard Professor Gerry Potter speak at a lecture inPenticton,BCCanada. When I next went to the Cancer Clinic I had had another PSA test. Interestingly, it seemed to indicate a possible slowing of the tumour growth. When I returned home from the Cancer Clinic I used an equation to find the doubling time and I was able to determine that the PSA had previously doubled every 4 months. This is very bad news because a short doubling time indicates fast tumour growth. However, during the first two months of taking Salvestrol the doubling time lengthened to 20 months. During the next three months the doubling time lengthened again to 40 months (which is very good). This means that the tumour growth rate had slowed to a crawl from its very rapid growth only 5 months earlier. Based on these results, I calculated I will die of other causes before the cancer is a concern. I have been very conservative in my dosages. One capsule of Salvestrol Platinum per day was used during the first two months and then increased to two capsules per day for the last three months. When I first saw my urologist after taking the salvestrol supplements he declared that the PSA result must be a lab error. The next time I saw him, with an even better result, he could see that this was not a lab error and he wanted to know what I was doing. He asked for information about Salvestrol and said that he was going to investigate it. He said that I seemed to be on the cutting edge of current research. Based on my experience and the information that I have gathered, I recommend Salvestrol Therapy to anyone that has cancer of any kind or is at risk of cancer. I am writing this for people to read because I believe that a great deal of unnecessary suffering can be avoided by using Salvestrol as a preventative (low dosage) or a curative (higher dosage) for all types of cancer. It is safe to take even at high doses and can be used alone or in conjunction with other treatments recommended by doctors. If the situation is not an emergency or the doctors have given up, then giving Salvestrol a trial for three months seems like a good plan. Ken,Canada gerrypotter Sat, 21 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry, I have HRPC and am being furnished medication by the Veterans Administration (because of Agent Orange exposure) and have a civilian Oncologist. I had a radical prostetectomy in 2009 and subsequent radiation plus Zoladex. I was very exited to learn about the success of Zytiga. I was even more excited to learn that it has been made available to some Veterans without having gone through Chemo. I am meeting May 4 with a Veterans Administration  Onclogist to convince them to furnish me Zytiga off formulary. While researching Zytiga, I was fortunate enough to stumble on this web site and learn about Salvestrol. I have largely changed my diet to more fruits and vegetables, organic if available. My question is if I take Salvstrol, is it necessary to juice? I think that Salvestrol is the reason for all the cures reported with juicing and orgainic, vegan diets. My Onclolgist says that if it wasn't for the rising PSA, no one would suspect that I had cancer. All the best, Ed capted Fri, 20 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry, I always enjoy a good bit of provocation! Seriously, though, back in 1969 I watched my father die from lung cancer; he was 56 (the age I am now) and I was 13. You have done sterling work in cancer therapy and, with your discovery of salvestrols, have produced what may be a potent non-toxic weapon in the treatment arsenal - and, perhaps more importantly, a possible means of preventing the onset of cancer. You're much too valuable to die prematurely from crippled lungs. Best wishes, Slarti   Slartibartfast Thu, 19 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Slarti, its good to hear from you again with your provocative comments ! Its true that smoking is a hazardous pastime but I enjoy it and weigh up the risks. If I should ever develop lung cancer I hope I would have the good sense to decrease my carbon monoxide intake and increase my oxygen intake as much as possible. Perhaps the main reason people develop primary lung cancer could be in fact due to inhibition of the CYP1B1 rescue enzyme. If this were inhibited by the carbon monoxide it could last all day and prevent any salvestrols in the system from being activated to anticancer metabolites. Therefore the carbon monoxide in cigarette smoke could be the primary reason people who smoke develop lung cancer. So coupled with all the carcinogens in cigarette smoke makes this occupation hazardous, so thanks for the warning ! gerrypotter Wed, 18 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Thanks for the explanation Gerry. Interesting that cigarette smoke inhibits the enzyme. Sounds like you'd better get on the nicotine patches though!! Slarti Slartibartfast Wed, 18 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Thanks Gerry. I too was interested in why you thought the second case may not have been successful with salvestrols. It looks likely we will be adding salvestrols to the treatment plan. Hoggle Wed, 18 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Slarti The non responder to salvestrols for oesophagael cancer may have been due to a number of factors such as insufficient dose, or the fact that this person was a heavy smoker. We now know that cigarette smoke contains carbon monoxide which strongly inhibits the CYP1B1 enzyme and will inhibit the efficacy of salvestrols in organs that are exposed to carbon monoxide such as the lungs and oesophagus. I thought it was important to give a fair assesment of the efficacy of salvestrols against oesophagael cancer, Gerry gerrypotter Wed, 18 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry, Haven't posted here for a while, but I was interested in the response of the two patients mentioned here - especially the one who didn't respond to salvestrols. If all cancers express the CYP1B1 enzyme then - in theory - they should all respond to salvestrols to some degree. Do you have any explanation for the lack of response in this case? Best wishes, Slarti Slartibartfast Mon, 16 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry, Haven't posted here for a while, but I was interested in the response of the two patients mentioned here - especially the one who didn't respond to salvestrols. If all cancers express the CYP1B1 enzyme then - in theory - they should all respond to salvestrols to some degree. Do you have any explanation for the lack of response in this case? Best wishes, Slarti Slartibartfast Mon, 16 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Hoggle For oesophageal cancer I would recommend a minimum dose of 2000 points daily. If you are aiming for a slow and steady response then this is the preferred dose. This can be increased to 6000 points for optimum effect and may even require 12,000 points daily since this is stage 3 cancer. Salvestrols really are very safe and have been taken without any complications at much higher doses than this. This is one of their great advantages, that they can be safely taken even when people are very unwell. I have encountered 2 cases of people taking salvestrols for oesophageal cancer. One of them responded well to a dose of 2000 points daily, and the other who was a close friend of mine did not respond at all to salvestrols, and the condition continued to worsen and he died following surgery to remove the tumour. For the lady that responded the results were really good, and she reported being able to eat food again without pain after 2 weeks of taking the supplements. She made a complete response and was all clear of cancer after only 3 months. Sometimes people with this cancer can find it hard to swallow the capsule so it can be eased apart and the contents tipped into the mouth. This is then easier to swallow without the capsule. The combination with GcMAF should not present any problems. The salvestrols points system is needed to give a quantitative measure of salvestrols. Since salvestrols are a group of several different compounds, they all have their own potency so they are measured separately, and each has a different number of points per milligram depending on its potency. For example 1 mg of salvestrol S30 (resveratrol) has 10 points, but salvestrol Q40 has 20 points per mg. As a general guidance 10 mg of mixed salvestrols have a potency of 100 points. gerrypotter Mon, 16 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry, What dosage would you recommend for oesophageal cancer (stage 3)? The patient is presently receiving GcMAF, and I intend to continue this treatment unless blood tests suggest this is not a worthwhile treatment (results are presently taking over a month to get back from the lab). The Salvestrols dose I was looking at administering is 2000 points per day. The main reason for this dose is the lack of skilled medical staff on hand to monitor for complications. I would favour a slow and steady result over rapid tumor destruction in order to avoid TLS or compromised structural integrity of the oesophagus. Assuming there are no undesrable interactions with other food or drugs (the patient is fed on Nutricia Nutrison Multi Fibre exclusively), and the balance is tipped in the favour of the treatment, is it reasonable to assume that a lower does will be effective over a longer period of time? Also, could you please enlighten us on the 'points' system? It appears each Salvestrols product varies from the next (or from batch to batch by some descriptions), so I assume the points system is a relative measure of overall activity rather than a more traditional measure of milligrams. Thanks. Hoggle Mon, 16 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry Thanks for that. Hopefully I will not need the GSK436. Mark bundy Sat, 14 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 14, 2012 5:13 PM iduna wrote: On apr 14, 2012 3:51 gerrypotter wrote: Dear Dr. Gerry Potter: How many points a day is optimal ? In a past post you mentioned that if you developed lung ca you would take 12000 points. Others take a wide range of points. Based on what you told me I am taking 6000 pts. for the resurfacing of my prostate cancer { my last PSA score in early January was 1.42 [ had RP 6 yrs. ago ] and my HCG score at the end of Feb. was 52.6. Dear Don, The optimal dosage of salvestrols is 6000 points per day for most forms of cancer including prostate cancer. For some types of advanced cancer a higher dose of 12,000 points per day is recommended to maximise the anticancer effects. A dose higher than 12,000 points has never been needed in practise.  I do not recommend more than is actually needed for economic reasons, since high doses can work out quite expensive. The minimum dose at which anticancer effects have been observed is 350 points daily. If people are undergoing chemotherapy then I recommend a low dose of 2000 points daily so that it does not interefere with the chemotherapy. For most cases of cancer the dose of 6000 points daily is optimium.I just read some news about LIPOSOMAL ENCAPSULATED VITAMIN C to be very effective. Can these be combined with salvestrol? Thanks again for all your good information. Our salvestrol is on its way to Norway.Vitamin C and Salvestrols are OK to take together. gerrypotter Sat, 14 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT On apr 14, 2012 3:51 gerrypotter wrote: Dear Dr. Gerry Potter: How many points a day is optimal ? In a past post you mentioned that if you developed lung ca you would take 12000 points. Others take a wide range of points. Based on what you told me I am taking 6000 pts. for the resurfacing of my prostate cancer { my last PSA score in early January was 1.42 [ had RP 6 yrs. ago ] and my HCG score at the end of Feb. was 52.6. Dear Don, The optimal dosage of salvestrols is 6000 points per day for most forms of cancer including prostate cancer. For some types of advanced cancer a higher dose of 12,000 points per day is recommended to maximise the anticancer effects. A dose higher than 12,000 points has never been needed in practise.  I do not recommend more than is actually needed for economic reasons, since high doses can work out quite expensive. The minimum dose at which anticancer effects have been observed is 350 points daily. If people are undergoing chemotherapy then I recommend a low dose of 2000 points daily so that it does not interefere with the chemotherapy. For most cases of cancer the dose of 6000 points daily is optimium.I just read some news about LIPOSOMAL ENCAPSULATED VITAMIN C to be very effective. Can these be combined with salvestrol? Thanks again for all your good information. Our salvestrol is on its way to Norway. iduna Sat, 14 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Thank you very much for your explanation. I will get my husband on salvestrols asap. MJLSK Sat, 14 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Dr. Gerry Potter: How many points a day is optimal ? In a past post you mentioned that if you developed lung ca you would take 12000 points. Others take a wide range of points. Based on what you told me I am taking 6000 pts. for the resurfacing of my prostate cancer { my last PSA score in early January was 1.42 [ had RP 6 yrs. ago ] and my HCG score at the end of Feb. was 52.6. Dear Don, The optimal dosage of salvestrols is 6000 points per day for most forms of cancer including prostate cancer. For some types of advanced cancer a higher dose of 12,000 points per day is recommended to maximise the anticancer effects. A dose higher than 12,000 points has never been needed in practise.  I do not recommend more than is actually needed for economic reasons, since high doses can work out quite expensive. The minimum dose at which anticancer effects have been observed is 350 points daily. If people are undergoing chemotherapy then I recommend a low dose of 2000 points daily so that it does not interefere with the chemotherapy. For most cases of cancer the dose of 6000 points daily is optimium. gerrypotter Sat, 14 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Mark, Thanks for your feedback which sounds encouraging and will hopefully help other people who are considering taking salvestrols. I had imagined with melanoma that you might have dark spots on the outer skin, but sometimes the primary melanoma is not clearly visible and the disease can be mainly metastatic. I have found the name of GSK436 and it is called Dabrafenib. This has been a well designed drug that selectively targets the B-Raf enzyme. If your progress continues with salvestrols then there may be no need to try Dabrafenib, although its good to know there is a backup option if needed. gerrypotter Sat, 14 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Anna, You certainly seem to have done a lot of research on which supplements to take. If your husband starts taking salvestrols then he does not really need any of these other supplements. Some of these are related to the salvestrols. We have analysed many of these in the laboratory (quercetin, resveratrol, ECG, and turmeric) and found that they are not as powerful as salvestrol Q40. If he wishes to continue taking resveratrol then only a low dose of 50 mg daily should be taken, so that it does not interfere with the metabolism of the other salvestrols. Turmeric is not very potent and it has poor bioavailability so I am not convinced by the research on this. Black raspberry contains resveratrol, and milk thistle contains salvestrol Q40 in low amounts so its not necessary to take these as well. Bromelain and Honokiol have their own merits so it may be worth continuing with these supplements Bromelain is a pineapple extract that has ant-inflammatory activity and has been shown to decrease the pro-inflammatory cytokines associated with colon cancer, although no anticancer effects have been demonstarted. Honokiol is an extract from the Magnolia Tree and is used in traditional Japanese medicine. It has demonstarted anticancer effects in many forms of cancer including colon cancer. It is able to induce cell death by apoptosis of cancer cells, so is probably worth continuing with this supplement on its own merits. gerrypotter Sat, 14 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT I think the dosage of 12,000 points per day should only be taken when not undergoing any other therapy. While on chemotherapy the dose should be reduced accordingly to 2000 points at the time of chemotherapy, and 6000 points during the recovery period. When the chemotherapy cycles have finished then the higher dose can be aimed at. When taking salvestrols it is not necessary to take resveratrol as well. Resveratrol has an unusual behaviour with respect to its activity at higher doses. At a low dose of 10 mg resveratrol is most active but its activity decreases with a higher dose. At 100 mg it has half the activity and at 1000 mg it has no activity at all. So if taking resveratrol on its own the optimum dose that should be aimed at is 50 mg daily. The other salvestrols do not show this effect and continue to increase in potency with an increased dose. Only the most potent salvestrols have been formulated into salvestrol platinum. Salvestrol Platinum contains 4 salvestrols which are salvestrol Q40, salvestrol T31G, salvestrol T55 and salvestrol Q66. Salvestrol Q40 is the main component and this has the greatest anticancer activity. Salvestrol T31G also has high anticancer activity and has greater bioavailability and is able to cross the blood/brain barrier to target brain tumours and brain metastases. Salvestrols T55 and Q66 can also target brain tumours and also help to boost the levels of the CYP1B1 enzyme that metabolises the salvestrols. gerrypotter Sat, 14 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry Sorry for late reply. My experience with the cream so far has been as follows. When i started I searched the right chest muscle for any little lumps and I found one little one. I did not know what this was as it was under the skin. Also I had know idea where in my right breast it was supposed to be from the scan. So I started to rub the cream into my breast all over. After about two to three weeks I could no longer feel the lump. I had been applying the cream very liberally. (as you know I do go to the extremes haha). Then I went to see the surgeon and he also could not find any lump. So he checked the scan for its position and felt my breast right where I had previously felt the lump. He could feel nothing himself. As far as spots on my outer skin so far I have had nothing visible come up. Right now I am taking 16000 points a day for 1 month. GSK436 is still on hold until results from a biopsy from the breast spot. If they can find it at all. They will ultrasound before biopsy to mark it first. 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Thanks Anna aleyderm Fri, 13 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 12, 2012 10:06 PM gerrypotter wrote: On Apr 12, 2012 9:38 PM MJLSK wrote: On Apr 12, 2012 7:26 PM gerrypotter wrote: On Apr 11, 2012 10:46 PM MJLSK wrote: Dear Gerry, Can salvestrol cure glioblastoma multiforme? Are there any success stories with this particular cancer?I do not know for sure if it will cure every type of brain cancer. I have heard reports of people being cured from brain cancer with salvestrols but I do not have any documented case studies on this. We do know that salvestrols can target brain metastases and so we know that they can reach brain tumours. I think the higher dose of 12,000 points per day should be aimed at to have maximum chance of success. In the laboratory all types of brain tumours expressed the target enzyme CYP1B1 so I have every reason to believe that salvestrols will help you, GerryThank you Gerry. Can this dose be taken with temozolomide? My husband is on this chemo at the moment taking it for 5 days and then followed by 23 days off (12 cycles in total). Also have you heard of clomipramine use in glioblastoma? Can it be taken at the same time as temozolomide and salvestrols? What about any other supplements such as resveratrol, boswellia, berberine, coriolus versicolor?Temozolomide is a powerful form of chemotherapy and the dose should be only 1 capsule (2000 points) daily while he is taking this. After 3 days following the chemo the dose can be increased to 3 capsules daily, remembering to reduce the dose again for the next cycle of chemotherapy. Ive heard of clomipramine being used as an antidepressant, but have not seen any evidence for its use in treating brain cancer. Resveratrol is a salvestrol but is not very potent. The most potent salvestrols are already in the salvestrol platinum supplements so you dont really need any more.Thank you Gerry. Earlier you mentioned 12000 per day, when shall we get to this dose? Shall we stop taking resveratrol once we start salvestrols? Also, if taking resveratrol on its own, what is the recommended dose? Also, i can't find anywhere what salvestrols are included in the salvestrol platinum. MJLSK Fri, 13 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 12, 2012 9:38 PM MJLSK wrote: On Apr 12, 2012 7:26 PM gerrypotter wrote: On Apr 11, 2012 10:46 PM MJLSK wrote: Dear Gerry, Can salvestrol cure glioblastoma multiforme? Are there any success stories with this particular cancer?I do not know for sure if it will cure every type of brain cancer. I have heard reports of people being cured from brain cancer with salvestrols but I do not have any documented case studies on this. We do know that salvestrols can target brain metastases and so we know that they can reach brain tumours. I think the higher dose of 12,000 points per day should be aimed at to have maximum chance of success. In the laboratory all types of brain tumours expressed the target enzyme CYP1B1 so I have every reason to believe that salvestrols will help you, GerryThank you Gerry. Can this dose be taken with temozolomide? My husband is on this chemo at the moment taking it for 5 days and then followed by 23 days off (12 cycles in total). Also have you heard of clomipramine use in glioblastoma? Can it be taken at the same time as temozolomide and salvestrols? What about any other supplements such as resveratrol, boswellia, berberine, coriolus versicolor?Temozolomide is a powerful form of chemotherapy and the dose should be only 1 capsule (2000 points) daily while he is taking this. After 3 days following the chemo the dose can be increased to 3 capsules daily, remembering to reduce the dose again for the next cycle of chemotherapy. Ive heard of clomipramine being used as an antidepressant, but have not seen any evidence for its use in treating brain cancer. Resveratrol is a salvestrol but is not very potent. The most potent salvestrols are already in the salvestrol platinum supplements so you dont really need any more. gerrypotter Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT I found this case on a German website which shows some encouraging results against renal cancer: Case#521 Kidney Cancer I have had one kidney removed due to a large 5 cm tumor. 4 months ago I attended a seminar by Professor Dan Burke, the co-discoverer of Salvestrols, who showed the impressive potential of Salvestrol against cancer. Shortly afterwards I was informed by my doctor about the possibilities of a test for free tumor cells in the body. This test has a threshold of "118." My blood test resulted in a significant "143" which has a high probability of metastasising. My doctor recommended I took a daily dose of 10,000 Points of Salvestrol a day for one month. The test after this month showed an impressive result: "126". I have maintained my current diet and salvestrol supplements for 3 months. My test is below “118” and I’m now in remission.   gerrypotter Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 12, 2012 7:26 PM gerrypotter wrote: On Apr 11, 2012 10:46 PM MJLSK wrote: Dear Gerry, Can salvestrol cure glioblastoma multiforme? Are there any success stories with this particular cancer?I do not know for sure if it will cure every type of brain cancer. I have heard reports of people being cured from brain cancer with salvestrols but I do not have any documented case studies on this. We do know that salvestrols can target brain metastases and so we know that they can reach brain tumours. I think the higher dose of 12,000 points per day should be aimed at to have maximum chance of success. In the laboratory all types of brain tumours expressed the target enzyme CYP1B1 so I have every reason to believe that salvestrols will help you, GerryThank you Gerry. Can this dose be taken with temozolomide? My husband is on this chemo at the moment taking it for 5 days and then followed by 23 days off (12 cycles in total). Also have you heard of clomipramine use in glioblastoma? Can it be taken at the same time as temozolomide and salvestrols? What about any other supplements such as resveratrol, boswellia, berberine, coriolus versicolor? MJLSK Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Thank you for responding quickly. I appreciate all the knowledge you are sharing. dezigner1 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 12, 2012 1:15 AM dezigner1 wrote: Hi Gerry. Mu husband has mRCC, dx in mid-2010 with lung mets. It has since further metasticised to his adrenal glands, liver and 1 brain tumor for which he had Cyberknife last October. He started Sutent 50mg in Feb 2012, had twocycles then the CT scan showed minor improvement to the lung and adrenal mets but one of the liver mets doubled kn size to 9 cm. The onc has switched him to Affinitor which he will begin in two days. Do you think there is hope that taking Salvestrol (and at what dose) along with the Affinitor would increase the chances of tumor shrinkage or some type of remission? We are feeling so desperate for a solution! Thank you....The cancer sounds like its at quite an advanced stage and I think the salvestrols could really help your husband. The salvestrols are more potent than Sutent and have a better chance of working. Afinitor (Everolimus) is a powerful immunosuppresant agent that is used for organ transplants and its utility as a cancer therapy has not been demonstrated. While he is on Afinitor I think the Salvestrol dose should be limited to 2000 points daily. I hope this helps your husband. gerrypotter Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Apr 11, 2012 10:46 PM MJLSK wrote: Dear Gerry, Can salvestrol cure glioblastoma multiforme? Are there any success stories with this particular cancer?I do not know for sure if it will cure every type of brain cancer. I have heard reports of people being cured from brain cancer with salvestrols but I do not have any documented case studies on this. We do know that salvestrols can target brain metastases and so we know that they can reach brain tumours. I think the higher dose of 12,000 points per day should be aimed at to have maximum chance of success. In the laboratory all types of brain tumours expressed the target enzyme CYP1B1 so I have every reason to believe that salvestrols will help you, Gerry gerrypotter Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT On apr 12, 2012 5:52 gerrypotter wrote: Dear Jennette, John of God sounds like a very special person and some people are truely gifted healers. I have found Reiki helps with the general healing process and I wondered if you had explored this. I am so grateful to the Kinesiology community for being faithful supporters of salvestrols. I remember at the first Kinesiology conference all the practioners were dowsing the salvestrols to check them out. They saw massive pendulum swings over the salvestrols and declared them to be the real thing ! Ever since that conference the Kinesiologists have been using salvestrols in their practice to help cancer patients often with good success which is why they continue to use them. Thanks to the Kinesiologists and other naturopathic doctors the salvestrols are helping many people and there are now over 50 naturapathic clinics in the USA and Canada that are using them as part of their practice.What is Reiki? iduna Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Jennette, John of God sounds like a very special person and some people are truely gifted healers. I have found Reiki helps with the general healing process and I wondered if you had explored this. I am so grateful to the Kinesiology community for being faithful supporters of salvestrols. I remember at the first Kinesiology conference all the practioners were dowsing the salvestrols to check them out. They saw massive pendulum swings over the salvestrols and declared them to be the real thing ! Ever since that conference the Kinesiologists have been using salvestrols in their practice to help cancer patients often with good success which is why they continue to use them. Thanks to the Kinesiologists and other naturopathic doctors the salvestrols are helping many people and there are now over 50 naturapathic clinics in the USA and Canada that are using them as part of their practice. gerrypotter Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry. Mu husband has mRCC, dx in mid-2010 with lung mets. It has since further metasticised to his adrenal glands, liver and 1 brain tumor for which he had Cyberknife last October. He started Sutent 50mg in Feb 2012, had twocycles then the CT scan showed minor improvement to the lung and adrenal mets but one of the liver mets doubled kn size to 9 cm. The onc has switched him to Affinitor which he will begin in two days. Do you think there is hope that taking Salvestrol (and at what dose) along with the Affinitor would increase the chances of tumor shrinkage or some type of remission? We are feeling so desperate for a solution! Thank you.... dezigner1 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Gerry, Can salvestrol cure glioblastoma multiforme? Are there any success stories with this particular cancer? MJLSK Wed, 11 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Gerry, Thanks for your reply. I really appreciate you talking to us. I understand what you say about god and creation - but John of God is a spiritual healer - a good friend of mine went to see him with skin cancer and came back without it. I wondered whether this could happen to me - but it did not. Its a really peculiar place to go though, and the experience of being in a room where many people are meditating is really profound. I think because the process of healing with salvestrol is quite slow it is hard to hold our nerve - especially when we might be pressured by doctors or family.  That is why it is good to talk to you and be able to raise any fears we might have. I am really interested in idoxifene - the hormone treatment at the moment seems rough to the system. Best wishes, Jennette Best wishes  jennette Wed, 11 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Rolin The dose of 2000 points per day is sufficient in most cases of cancer even if it is metastatic. There is only a risk of feeding the cancer if the salvestrol consumption is very low indeed, below 5 points per day. gerrypotter Tue, 10 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Mr. Potter,thank you for the answer.But according to her 2000 points per day (Salvestrol platinum) aresufficient in the case of cancer with several metastases?There is the risk that cancer cells, instead of dying, feed on theSalvestrol at this dose and increase?I apologize again for being so boring, but this situation about mydear father. I would do anything for him.God bless her and all those dear to her.With affection and esteem.Rolin. rolin Tue, 10 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Rolin, the skin is a major excretion pathway so if you only have one kidney then more toxins will be expelled through the skin. This could lead to skin reactions such as spots and rashes in some people. On a low dose of salvestrols this should be kept under control. The dose of 2000 points per day is a therapeutic dose and some people have responded very well at this dose. gerrypotter Tue, 10 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Dr. Potter,I would ask, please: if you have only one kidney, it is possible that toxins and cellular debris are expelled through the skin?If so, it is possible that psoriasis worse?And taking one capsule of platinum Salvestrol (2000 points) per dayis still not enough to fight cancer spread?C 'is a way to help the' body to get rid of toxins?Sorry for the many questions, but I would not know where to turn.I thank you with all my heart.Rolin. rolin Tue, 10 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Anna There are 500 different flavonoids so its hard to say which flavonoid has been used in this work. If you can find the name of the flavone that would be interesting. We have noticed people can lose weight when taking salvestrols and they can act as appetite suppressants which makes them useful as slimming aids. Indeed if you search resveratrol on the internet you can find slimming aids containing this salvestrol. gerrypotter Mon, 09 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Jennette, Thank you for telling me about your story and a journey that led you to John of God. Fortunately I see God everywhere in the whole creation so I dont have to go to Brazil I can just sit in my garden like today. Salvestrols and Vitamin C are completely compatible and actually help one another in their overall actions. Milk thistle is a great herb as are all the thistle family including artichoke which is a giant thistle head. These herbs have the highest levels of salvestrol Q40 which clears the liver of metastases so is powerful liver tonic. Mice studies of human breast cancer can be misleading. I am not sure what their orange peel extract contained so it is hard to comment on this. There are over 300 flavonoids in orange peel, all with different biological properties. Some flavones have anticancer properties such as the salvestrols, whilst others such as the isoflavones are cancer promoting. So you need to be sure you know what you are extracting from orange peel. In the past I have done a lot of research on tamoxifen and developed a new version of this drug called Idoxifene which is much more powerful and has a safer profile than Tamoxifen. gerrypotter Mon, 09 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Mark Have you tried using the salvestrol cream on any dark melanoma spots ? I would be interested to know the reaction. My mother had a neoplastic growth that was dark in colour rather like a melanoma. When she rubbed in the salvestrol cream there was a marked reaction. Within 3 days the spot had scabbed over and 3 days later fell off to reveal new skin beneath. So this was quite a clear healing process and i wondered if you have any melanoma spots that are clearly visible ? gerrypotter Mon, 09 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Ainars, the salvestrol metabolites are excreted in the urine conjugated to sugar molecules. These are water soluble compounds and are naturally eliminated from the body. There can be a toxic reaction due to the debris from the dead tumour cells as the cancer is being killed. This can lead to an accumulation of toxic cellular debris which has to be eliminated by the body. Any cancer therapy will result in this effect. For salvestrols this effect can be lessened by taking a smaller dose and I think your wife should reduce her dose to 1 capsule daily (2000 points). At this lower dose of 2000 points daily the salvestrols are still very effective and allow the body to heal at a slower pace. People with cancer who have taken 2000 points daily have often made good recoveries over a period of 6 months. gerrypotter Mon, 09 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Thanks Anna. Really dont know - but Gerry quotes people using IV Vit C along with salvestrols and that this seems to be effective. I think there is some link between chlorella and vit c - the chinese are using infra red light very successfully to kill tumours - but first the patient takes chlorella. Apparently the cancer cells love chlorella and the algae makes the cells sensitive to the u v light. Does it also make the cells sensitive to the oxygen which is promoted by the vit c at high doses? Gerry I hope you are having a nice relaxing easter and can help us when you are able. Best wishes Anna   jennette Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT I have read that Flavanoids and liposomal vit C might not go together as Flavanoids inhibit vit C abosrbtion. "Flavonoid inhibition of sodium-dependent vitamin C transporter 1 (SVCT1) and glucose transporter isoform 2 (GLUT2), intestinal transporters for vitamin C and Glucose." on pubmed. Slavestrol is flavonoid so it might not be a good idea to take both together. Hopefully Garry will chime in. I am not an expert. Anna aleyderm Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Kerry, I really think Gerry has hit the mark with the salvestrols and I am taking these. also taking chlorella and liposomal vit c. I dont quite know the interaction between the two - the vit c is more available in this form and one gram of the liposomal vit c equals about 9 grams of normal vit c so you can almost do your own IV treatment. I am a kinesiologist and I seemed to get the info that the salvestrols would put the cancer to sleep - deactivate it? - while the combination of chlorella and vit c would kill it. I have done so much in the past year - essaic, iodine, chinese herbs, raw broccoli, no sugar of course, heat pads, lots of emotional work , Brandon Bays -'the Journey'- I even went to see John of God in Brazil. The cancer 'voice' I was aware of is vicious and quite ruthless but I dont seem to sense this voice any more.And I feel better. Dont underestimate the rapaciousness of cancer and its huge drive to live. I went to see Dan Burke talk recently and the science behind salvestrols makes so much sense. Best wishes,  Jennette jennette Fri, 06 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Jeannette, could you tell me what you tried for your breast tumors befor tamoxofin?  Trying to figure out what to do.  Thanks, Kerry kerdes Thu, 05 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT sorry - the dosage I am taking is 12000 points a day or 6 platinum 2000 a day, plus salvestrol cream. Jennette jennette Thu, 05 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Gerry, I hope this doesnt duplicate as I wrote you a reply but somehow lost it! I have breast cancer diagnosed in jan 2011 - 3 tumours. Tried quite a lot of things as I work in complimentary health but didnt manage to shrink tumours.Went on tamoxifen and tumours seemed to shrink a bit, then heard of salvestrols from a kinesiologist friend of mine who had heard you talk a few years ago. Have been on salvestrol 1200 points a day for about 6 weeks. Felt very tired to begin with, then after about 3 or 4 weeks started feeling much better. Have been taking the things you suggest, and milk thistle and chlorella for my poor liver.Saw on internet recently research on breast cancer/mice/tamoxifen/a constituent of orange peel. The researchers expected the o/p const to facilitate the tamoxifen but it didnt. It increased the amount of tamoxifen in the mouses system but actually seemed to stop the tamoxifen working on the breast cancer. I would really appreciate your thoughts on this. Very best wishes Jennette jennette Thu, 05 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry   After my last appointment with my oncoligist we have decided to put a hold on starting the GSK 436 for three weeks as he wants to see the results from a biopsy of a small lesion in my chest tissue. I have been rubbing the salvestrol cream in this area for the past couple of weeks so it eill be interesting to see the results of this.   Mark bundy Mon, 02 Apr 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Gerry, can destroyed cancer cells by Salvestrols induce the body intoxication? Thank you. Ainars ainars Sat, 31 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Gerry, is it possible, that some processes in the body after 6 weeks of taking Salvestrols induce the body intoxication. Maybe some toxines (Salvestrol metabolites-the activated anticancer toxins) are not going out of body? Thank you. Ainars   ainars Sat, 31 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Rolin I have not heard of an allergic reaction to salvestrols before, but everyone is different. If you think the skin rash is a result of taking the salvestrols then the dose can be decreased to 2000 points per day. At this lower dose the salvestrols will still be able to work but the recovery takes longer. gerrypotter Thu, 29 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Dr. Potter,the Salvestrol can cause allergic reactions (skin rash)?If yes, how long after hiring?Thanks in advance.Rolin. rolin Thu, 29 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Mark, I think the salvestrols plus GSK436 makes an exciting combination since both approaches are specifically targetted at the signal transduction pathway underlying the very cause of the cancer. Together they should be able to induce significant cell death of melanoma cells and hopefully clear up the remaining tumours. This will be the first time that a tragetted TK inhibitor has been used alongside salvestrols so the results will be interesting. I'm not sure what sclerosis means in the context of bone metatstasis either. Please let me know what dosage schedule you are given. gerrypotter Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Shitul, thanks for telling me about the FOLFOX chemotherapy. I did some of the original research in developing carboplatin so I know how toxic and immunosuppresive these platinum drugs are. Oxailplatin is very cytotoxic and is toxic to the liver and kidneys, and it really gives the white blood cells a hammering. Thats why it is immunosuppresive because it kills the white blood cells in the body as well as killing some of the tumour cells. Thats why they cant give you any more if your WBC is low. I cannot think of anything that would help to stop this happening since it is in the very nature of the chemotherapy that you are taking. So the combination of chemotherapy you are taking is immunosuppresive and no immunity boosting agent is going to stop the white blood cells from being killed by the oxaliplatin. The best you can hope for are supplements that can help the immune system recover faster. You could try taking a low dose salvestrols at 2000 points daily to help with this and this would also help offset some of the other side effects of chemotherapy. gerrypotter Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Anna, I think it makes perfect sense to gear the salvestrol dosage around the timing of the chemotherapy. From Day 1 to 11 the dose should be 2000 points, but this can be increased to 4000 points on day 12, and then to 6000 points in the recovery period from day 14-21. Then drop straight back to 2000 points for the start of the next cycle. This way you can hopefully get the best out of all three treatments, Gerry gerrypotter Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Ainars, quite often people have very advanced cancer when they start taking salvestrols and the condition is already getting worse due to the advanced stage of the disease. It can take some time to see progress with the salvestrols initially since it takes time to win over the large number (billions) of tumour cells in the body. So the condition may be naturally getting worse before the salvestrols have started to overcome the tumour cell population. Usually improvements are seen after the first 3 months. gerrypotter Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Gerry, recent blood test of my wife shows result for tumor marker CA 19-9 : 555.0. Ainars ainars Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Gerry, I asked my previous question, because my wife has been dramatically losing weight and strenght for last three weeks. She has stomach cancer ans she has been taking Salvestrols fo 6 weeks. Could you please advise if it is normal when patient condition becomes worse while the tumor dies? Thanks. Ainars ainars Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Gerry, is it possible, that patient condition becomes worse after taking Salvestrols for 6 weeks, before condition is starting to get better? Thanks. Ainars ainars Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Gerry, is it possible, that patient condition becomes worth after taking Salvestrols for 6 weeks, before condition is starting to get better? Thanks. Ainars ainars Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Gerry, Irinotecan/Erbitux is given in cycles: Irinotecan/Erbitux on day 1, Erbitux only on day 8, 2 weeks break. It is on going. I wonder if it makes sense to take larger doses of salvestrol in the recovery phase (14-21 days of the cycle). This theoretically should improve recovery time and continue cancer killing activity of salvestrols. What do you think? Thanks Anna aleyderm Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Erbitux is given with FOLFOX, which means oxaliplatin and 5fu bi weekly and on it's own weekly. Thatnmeans in a month I take erbitux 4 times and FOLFOX twice. I have neutropenia as a side effect to FOLFOX, whichmis low WBC, which many times delays the chemocycle as the doc can't give chemo when the WBC is low, then I need to take neupogen inj twice , once very day for two days tillage count goes high enough to take chemo. Other side effects are manageable but the neutropenia puts everything out of schedule . Other supplements I take for immunity boosting such as AHCC , milk thistle , graviola, blueberries etc dont seem to have any Effect on boosting WBC. I also take cur cumin. Also, erbitux and FOLFOX is given as an iv drip. The FOLFOX lasts 2 whole days. Let me know if u have any suggestions for me. Shitul Shitulpatel Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 25, 2012 9:58 a.m. gerrypotter wrote: Hi Anna, I think your husband is on two of the best medications available. Erbitux slows the growth and spreading of the cancer but does not actually kill the cancer cells. This is left to Irinotecan which is a powerful cytotoxic (i.e. cell killing) agent. So together Irinotecan kills the cancer cells and Erbitux stops the tumours from spreading. I think a modest dose of salvestrols at 2000 points per day will help in the cancer killing process and work well alongside these two agents. I presume both Irinotecan and Erbitux are administered as injections. I was wondering what the timing is of these injections. How often are they given and are they given in cycles or is this a long term treatment ?Hi Gerry   Got my appointment to see my onc today to discuss further the GSK 436 therapy. We will be talking doses and side effects. I guess this will be the time I start on the inhibitor. I am going to keep my salvestrols at the same dosage as I am at the moment. Also my areas of bone matastisis have been called sclerosis? Not 100% sure what this means. Also a biopsy is going to be taken of the small lump in my breast tissue. To see if it is melanoma or not.   Mark bundy Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Anna, I think your husband is on two of the best medications available. Erbitux slows the growth and spreading of the cancer but does not actually kill the cancer cells. This is left to Irinotecan which is a powerful cytotoxic (i.e. cell killing) agent. So together Irinotecan kills the cancer cells and Erbitux stops the tumours from spreading. I think a modest dose of salvestrols at 2000 points per day will help in the cancer killing process and work well alongside these two agents. I presume both Irinotecan and Erbitux are administered as injections. I was wondering what the timing is of these injections. How often are they given and are they given in cycles or is this a long term treatment ? gerrypotter Sun, 25 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Irinotecan/Erbitrux. My husband is already on it. Thank you for your advice. Anna aleyderm Sat, 24 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Anna, I recommend only taking one capsule daily while undergoing chemotherapy because I do not think you need more than this. When I said one capsule I meant one of the 2000 point capsules used in Europe, but in the US this would be equivalent to two 1000 point capsules. This is a therapeutic dose and at this dose is able to alleviate side effects without interefering with the chemotherapy. You have to realise that the chemotherapy agents are very powerful drugs that have a potent cytotoxicity to all the cells in the human body including the tumour. The main side effect of Irinotecan is killing of the immune cells causing immunosuppresion. Chemotherapy can also give the liver a hard time which is often the dose limiting effect. So to be on the safe side it is best to keep the salvestrol intake to a conservative level while undergoing chemotherapy. I was wondering if you are planning to take, or are already taking, irinotecan and if so what other chemotherapy agents are combined with this ? gerrypotter Fri, 23 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Gerry, I am sorry for keep asking you questions. What is the reasoning for taking only 1 capsule while on chemotherapy?  Is is not a therapeutic dose, is it? Just to alleviate side effects? If as you are saying it works synergatically with irinotecan why not to take full dose? Thanks Anna aleyderm Fri, 23 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry   Thanks so much. I am going to print this and take it to them right now. She is stage 4 and this could be the thing that might ehcourage her. Plus that I am hopeful that it is having an effect for me as well. Fingers crossed.   Mark   bundy Fri, 23 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Mark It is ovarian cancer that I have been seeking to cure ever since my beloved aunty Justina died of ovarian cancer over thirty years ago. I have always worked with an eye on how to tackle this disease which is very hard to treat with conventional chemotherapy. It is not a hormone dependant cancer like prostate cancer and so cannot be treated with Abiraterone, and requires a hormone independant pathway to be sought such as that provided by CYP1B1 and the salvestrols. The high expression of CYP1B1 in ovarian cancer means that salvestrol therapy is a rational approach to treating ovarian cancer. So far even with the most advanced cases of stage 4 ovarian cancer have responded to salvestrol therapy. I really hope this helps your friend, Gerry gerrypotter Fri, 23 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Anna, there is some evidence that salvestrols increase the anticancer effects of chemotherapy. Researchers in China have found that salvestrol Q40 (which is in salvestrol platinum) increased the anti-cancer effects of the chemotherapy drugs Adriamycin(doxorubicin),Taxol(paclitaxel), and Cisplatin. gerrypotter Fri, 23 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Gerry, I was actually wondering if Salvestrols make cells more susceptible to chemo? Thanks Anna / aleyderm Fri, 23 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT  Hi Gerry   Great!!! I will show that to my friend. She has just been diagnosed and is scared and not sure what to do. I would love for her to try this salvestrol therapy.   Mark bundy Fri, 23 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Rolin, the connection between glaucoma and salvestrols is interesting. There is a rare inherited genetic disorder called heriditary congenital glaucoma that is caused by a mutation of the CYP1B1 enzyme that activates salvestrols. In this disease the enzyme is less active and does not metabolise the salvestrols properly. I do not know if salvestrols have ever been tried for glaucoma but they do have a possibility of working. The best natural cure for glaucoma is the cannabis plant, and this is thought to be due to the THC content. Cannabis Sativa also contains salvestrols so these may be helping in the mechanism by which it works. gerrypotter Fri, 23 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Dr. Potter,I read that glaucoma is a neurodegenerative disease.Salvestrol are useful in glaucoma? One can hope to improve with'taking Salvestrol?Thank you for your availability.Cordial greetings.Rolin. rolin Fri, 23 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Mark, in the lab ovarian cancer cells expressed the highest level of the slavestrol activase enzyme CYP1B1 and so this type of cancer should be very sensitive to salvestrol therapy. We have had many cases of women with ovarian cancer that have benefited from salvestrols but most of these cases are not clear cut due to other therapies being taken as well. The only clear cut case was lady with stage 4 ovarian cancer who was in fact the first person to ever take salvestrols and she is still cancer free after 8 years. gerrypotter Fri, 23 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Anna, Salvestrols are compatible with chemotherapy but I recommend taking only one capsule daily while you are undergoing treatment. If you are advised not to eat then do not take any. Some naturapathic doctors prescribe salvestrols to combat the side effects of chemotherapy. Irinotecan is a powerful anticancer agent derived from the Chinese Happy Tree which has been used to treat cancer in traditional chinese medicine for centuries. It is better than most chemotherapy agents and is good because it is not carcinogenic. Irinotecan is typically used in combination therapy combined with a variety of other cytotoxic agents. I have found 2 testimonials from a Dutch website of people who have taken salvestrols while undergoing chemotherapy: ·        Salvestrol & Chemotherapy On 05 december 2011 I used Salvestrol platinum on the advice of my naturopath, combined with my chemotherapy. This time the recovery was faster after my treatment and I was less sick. Since I have used this product it has really improved my health. I recommend it to anyone who has to deal with cancer (as a supplement to conventional treatment). ·       Salvestrol chemo OnJuly 19, 2010 Salvestrol in combination with chemotherapy is safe to do. My condition remained good.My blood count barely dropped. My HB remained above 8.1. I was never once sick, weak or nauseous. The fatigue was negligible when I compare myself with fellow patients. Now after the chemo I continue to take Salvestrol. I feel great. I also take a large dose of vitamin C. gerrypotter Fri, 23 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry   Do you have any case studies on ovarian cancer?   Mark bundy Fri, 23 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi, Are Salvestrols compatible with any kind of chemotherapy? Irinotecan? Thanks Anna aleyderm Thu, 22 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 22, 2012 6:47 PM kerdes wrote: How can you be sure it will work on an advanced cancer?Dear Kerry, I cannot be sure that it will work in every particular case. What I do know is that many people who turn to salvestrols have very advanced cancer which has typically spread to the bones and liver. These people have no real alternative options open to them. There have been several cases of people with stage 4 cancer that have made full recoveries using salvestrols. From my experience salvestrols have a greater than 90% chance of working. gerrypotter Thu, 22 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT How can you be sure it will work on an advanced cancer? kerdes Thu, 22 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Kerry We do not have testimonials specifically for stage IV colon cancer. The nearest example is for earlier stage colon cancer where only salvestrols were used as treatment given here: Case #8. Colon cancer A 64-year-old female was diagnosed with colon cancer. At the time of her consultation, her ab­domen was continually distended leaving her with a bloated feeling. She was experiencing chronic, sharp pain in her abdomen that was heightened after eating. This pain was suffi­ciently severe that she was unable to touch her abdomen or lay face down. She had lost 10% of her weight and had a poor appetite. She was fatigued to the point of falling asleep by mid-day. She also experienced occasional nausea, and blood in her stool. Her skin colour had taken on a gray tone. She chose not to pursue conventional treatment, and immediately started taking Salvestrols. This comprised three Salvestrol Platinum (1000 point) capsules, spread through the day by taking one capsule after each meal. This level of Salvestrol supple­mentation (3,000 points per day) was main­tained for three months. She reported feeling better after the ini­tial three weeks of Salvestrol supplementa­tion. Within five weeks she looked noticeably better to relatives. By seven weeks the abdominal pain had subsided, as had the distension. Three months later she reported feeling so much bet­ter. After a period of seven months of Salves­trol supplementation her weight and skin color had returned to normal. In order to assess the progression of the disease she arranged for a privately fund­ed ultrasound investigation. No cancer was found. From this point she has continued to take two Salvestrol Shield (350 point) capsules each morning (700 points per day) as a preventative measure. She has great confidence in Salvestrols and attributes her recovery to them. gerrypotter Thu, 22 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Can you tell where I can see testamonials for this product for stage 4 cc. Thanks, Kerry kerdes Thu, 22 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Rolin Magnesium helps the salvestrol metbolism, but magnesium is generally available in the diet and in drinking water. So it is not necessary to take magnesium as a supplement. If you do want to take a magnesium supplement than a low dose of 100 mg is sufficient. Magnesium chloride is OK, but there are better forms such as magnesium citrate which is more easily absorbed. gerrypotter Thu, 22 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Kerry Salvestrols work against metastatic cancers that have spread to other parts of the body. The salvestrols tend to target the metastatic tumours first. The recommended dose for colon cancer is 6000 points per day. The supplements that you mention (essiac tea, paw paw, enzymes, bifidopholus, shark cartalidge, garlic, turmeric) are all compatible with salvestrols. gerrypotter Thu, 22 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Dr. Potter,may be taken without the magnesium in the form of magnesium chloride?Or is it better an 'other form with Salvestrols?Thanks for everything.Rolin. rolin Thu, 22 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Can Salvestrol work on colon cancer with mets to one lymph node and lots to the liver?  My husband is on chemo right now, but doesnt' want to stay on it.  We take: essiac tea paw paw enzymes bifidopholus shark cartalidge with reishi garlic turmeric Would these be combatable with salvestrol? Thanks, Kerry kerdes Thu, 22 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Ainars, I do not recommend sodium bicarbonate for cancer treatment because I have not seen any convincing evidence that it works. The science behind it is simplistic and does not address the basis of cancer. The hypothesis is that cancer cells live in an acidic environment and by neutralizing this with alkali you can kill the tumour cells. However there is no scientific basis for this. If sodium bicarbonate was able to destroy cancers then it would be clinically used but it is not. It can also be dangerous when injected so the intravenous approach should be avoided. gerrypotter Tue, 20 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Rolin, All the supplements you mentioned are OK to take with salvestrols. The cancer metastasis is dangerous because it spreads to other parts of the body where it causes damage. Typicall the metastatic tumours spread to the brain, bones, lung and liver. The salvestrols target the metastases first to  remove the metastatic tumours from the body. gerrypotter Tue, 20 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Gerry, why don't you recommend sodium bicarbonate. Thanks. Ainars ainars Tue, 20 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Mr. Potter,I thank you very much for your availability.Can I bother you again, please?It may take  alkalizing minerals, potassium ascorbate (in small quantities), lactoferrin with milk enzymes, papain, selenium and coenzyme q10 with Salvestrols?Before you ask why I searched among all the answers that she hasposted on the bulletin board, but found no answer.I do not want to waste your precious time and abuse your kindness.One more thing, please: in the case of cancer metastasis is the risk that the body should not be able to dispose of the debris of tumor cells and toxins?I apologize for not very intelligent questions.I thank you with all my heart.Rolin. rolin Tue, 20 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Rolin, you have raised some interesting questions. If you took laetrile (or apricot kernel) supplements this would inhibit the salvestrol activity. If you take any in the diet it is not a problem, and it is OK to take linseed oil with salvestrols. Supermarket vegetables are not harmful, but they just contain low levels of salvestrols. So it is OK to eat any type of produce with salvestrols. If you are taking salvestrol supplements then it does not matter if your vegetables are organic and you are free to generally eat what you like. Each 1000 points contains the equivalent of 10 kilograms of organic food. Sodium bicarbonate does not have any effect on salvestrol absorption. Some people have taken sodium bicarbonate for cancer, but I do not recommend it. gerrypotter Mon, 19 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Dr. Potter,I apologize for the inconvenience and also because I do not soil'English (I use the translator). I hope you also will understand what I'm writing and you have one minute to answer me, please.Regarding Salvestrol, I know that you should NOT take laetrile, but the linseed oil  (a tablespoon a day) contains laetrile? Also I can not buy organic vegetables; vegetables that are sold insupermarkets (not biological) inhibits Salvestrol?And the sodium bicarbonate used for washing fruits and vegetablesbut not ingested directly inhibits Salvestrol?I hope you will be able to read these words of mine (I m 'not goodwith computers!) And if you can not ripondermi I still thank you for everything you are doing.Cordial greetings.Rolin. rolin Mon, 19 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry   Thanks for that. I think I will give this a go and hope that GSK will stop anymore disease and also that the salvestrols keep doing what they already seem to be doing. My hope is to not be on the GSK drug for long and just to keep up the salvestrol therapy at a lower dose(eventually) full time. I am getting some cream today as well to start on the area on my chest.  So really in my heart of heart I think and believe that the salvestrols are doing the trick for me and that I have to hang in there and success will come. And  a boost from this GSK inhibitor may only help if the side effects are manageable.   Mark bundy Sun, 18 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Very impressive and comprehensive response to Mark. I`m sure that the time and effort you put into composing your answer are of great support to him and the people who love him. It`s also very informative to those of us who were able to read it. Thanks. WaterlooDon Sun, 18 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Mark That is good news that you are V600 positive and the B-Raf inhibitor should work well for you. If I had your type of cancer I would definitely give it a try. The V600 mutation of B-Raf is the root cause of the type of melanoma that you have. The Glutamate residue of the normal B-Raf enzyme is mutated to a Valine (V) residue at position 600 in the protein sequence and results in a permanantly active growth signalling enzyme. This mutant enzyme sends continuous signals via downstream tyrosine kinases to continue multiplying and the tumour carries on growing. So with activated B-Raf as the root cause the design of a drug that can inhibit this mutant B-Raf is a very good idea. Targetting a specific enzyme such as B-Raf means you can make a drug that is free from other side effects and is not harmful to the liver. The GSK436 inhibitor has not shown any liver toxicity in trials and will have been taken at a much higher dose than the one you will be on in phase I trials. GSK436 resistance has been overcome clinically by the coadministration of inhibitors of the MAPK pathway. I find this interesting because some of the salvestrol metabolites also inhibit the MAPK tyrosine kinases so the salvestrols act as tyrosine kinase inhibitor prodrugs. The combination of GSK436 with salvestrols therefore represents a rational approach to targetting this disease. When you are considered to be cancer free then it makes no sense to continue with a B-Raf inhibitor since its job is now done. The salvestrols are much safer as a long term preventative and the dose can be reduced to one capsule daily. Ipilimumab (Yervoy) is a cancer vaccine that has generated excitement in its potential. Early results against melanoma are encouraging. There is no reason why this vaccine cannot be combined with salvestrols or a B-Raf inhibitor. I think the best way forward is to try the GSK436 and salvestrol combo and see what results you get from this first. gerrypotter Sun, 18 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry   Yes I do have the B-RAF mutation and so we have been given the oppurtunity to try the drug. They also offered us ipilimumab. The only other thing that concerns me is how the B-RAF drug will go on my liver. I will probably take the drug. But when I am considered cancer free should I stop the BRAF drug and just continue with the salvestrols?   Mark bundy Sun, 18 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Mark Before you build any hopes up about GSK436 you need to know if you have this specific mutation of being V600 positive which will reuire a test. If this is negative (40% chance) then this approach simply will not work at all and may in fact promote tumour growth. If this is positive and your melanoma has this genetic mutation then targetting B-Raf is a very good idea, and offers a rational targetted approach. The drug appears safe in early trials and the skin rash side effects are tolerable. If you are found to be in the positive group then this drug is well worth a try and you should take every opportunity available to you. The combination of GSK436 and salvestrols would be interesting and should work well together. The salvestrols may even overcome the problems of GSK436 drug resistance because the omega salvestrol metabolites also inhibit this pathway. The combination of these two approaches could therefore be very powerful when used together. gerrypotter Sun, 18 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry   Exactly! Thats why I am sceptiacl. I have looked at my application form from the oncoligist and he has applied for GSK436 for me. Will the salvestrols work with these. I am going on compassionate gronds basis as there is no way I could afford these drugs. I almost feel in my heart that the salvestrol is the answer to my melanoma but there is always that what if the GSK is the one. If I can do both without to many harsh side effects I think I will try.   Mark bundy Sat, 17 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Mark I can see no reason why you cannot use Gc-MAF alongside salvestrols, since both are working with the way the body works. You should look further into the possible side effects of a weekly Gc-MAF injection since this may give an allergic response. Ive looked further into the B-Raf inhibitors for the treatment of melanoma. There are 2 new drugs in this category one by Roche (Vemurafenib) and one by GSK (GSK-436). The Roche drug has been through more clinical studies and it is clear that resistance quickly builds up in 40% of intial responders. Trials in combination with other drugs that might overcome thus are underway. Both these drugs only work if your melanoma if you have the V600 mutant phenotype which is about 60% of mealanomas. The other 40% will not respond and may actually get worse with this drug. So its important to know if your tumour type is positive for the V600 mutation before trying this type of drug. In phase II studies this showed an impressive 60% initial response rate before relapse. B-Raf inhibitors are now being trialled in combination with inhibitors aimed at MEK kinase (e.g GSK-212) kinase and HSP-90 (e.g. XL888). To try and overcome the problems of resistance to these agents. These drugs are not free from side effects and severe skin rashes and blistering of the skin have been reported. They also photosensitize the skin to sunlight. So these new drugs are not all they are cracked up to be. gerrypotter Sat, 17 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry   Is this something that could be combined with salvestrols?   Mark bundy Sat, 17 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 17, 2012 6:40 PM bundy wrote: Hi Gerry   Have you heard of GCMAF?   MarkGc-MAF is a weekly injection treatment for cancer based on an immunological approach that works like a cancer vaccine. Gc-MAF is a glycoprotein of macrophage activation factor that re-stimulates macrophages to attack tumour cells. There are hyped claims for this curing cancer but this was relating to 100% survival after 2 years with early stage cancer. In late stage cancer there was only a 20% response rate. At least the 2 year survival shows the treatment is not harmful and it is not expensive at $400 per month. gerrypotter Sat, 17 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry, Thank you sincerely for that; it's as forthright a reply as I could have hoped for. Your personal conviction as a cancer drug researcher means a lot to me, despite the lack of formal clinical trials.   Slartibartfast Sat, 17 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Slarti, I will answer your question about the cure for cancer. There is good reason that I believe the answer lies in the salvestrols as a group. There are 100 of them and they all occur naturally at various levels in different plants. All of the traditional plants that have been used to treat cancer contain some of the most powerful salvestrols. The Gerson Diet is rich in juices from fuits and vegetables and has been shown to cure cancer in some cases. The salvestrols all converge in their metabolism to a single compound salvestrol Q40 which is what I believe is the real cure for cancer. When this compound is introduced into the diet pronounced tumour regression has been observed. We were able to extract this compound in such a potent form that it has to be diluted in strength to be used in supplement form because it is too powerful on its own. The first salvestrol supplements contained only salvestrol Q40 which was powerful enough to work on its own. We then discovered an even better compound salvestrol T31G which had enhanced penetration into the tumours and abroader spectrum of activity. This was then formulated into the product salvestrol gold as a single agent. This too had powerful anticancer effects when it was tried by somebody with breast cancer. We then combined the 2 salvestrols and found they both enhanced the effects of each other and the formulation was twice as powerful. Other salvestrols were then discovered that could enhance the activity of the others and the final formulation of salvestrol platinum has 4 of these salvestrols working together. So far I have heard of over 500 cases of people recovering from cancer by taking salvestrols, and the highest dose that has been needed is 12,000 points per day. I do not wish to give people with cancer false hopes which is why I have needed to be convinced myself that this is effective. I declared that I would be convinced when I had seen sufficient evidence that it works myself. I have seen this evidence first hand with people that are terminally ill with advanced cancer make miraculous recoveries with salvestols. I have seen this with my own eyes when people have had no other therapy, so I do not have to be further convinced. So what is there to loose if someone with cancer tries salvestrol therapy. It is non-toxic and has never done anyone any harm. It is cheap and available around the world. Generally the first real benefits are seen after 3 months so what is the harm in trying this for 3 months if you are faced with no other alternatives anyway. That is the point salvestrols are always tried as a final desperate measure because conventional approaches have ultimately failed anyway. gerrypotter Sat, 17 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry   Have you heard of GCMAF?   Mark bundy Sat, 17 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT "Is it possible that the salvestrols will eradicate the cancer completely? Slarti would like that question !!!" Yeah, sorry Gerry! I keep trying to pin you down on salvestrols and it's not really fair of me. The fact is that you have suggested several times that salvestrols are "the cure" for cancer, but obviously this is your personal opinion and without large-scale clinical trials it will remain nothing more than that. (And of course I realise that such trials will never be done for a nutritional product.) You are undoubtedly convinced by the science behind salvestrols; that they are part of the body's innate cancer eradication mechanism, without which - as you have said - we would all be a mass of tumours. It's reasonable, therefore, to believe that if this eradication mechanism could be switched back on, the body would deal with the cancer in the way it was programmed. I guess I'm just trying to come to an informed opinion as to whether using salvestrol therapy instead of "cut burn & poison" is a reasonable way forward for the cancer sufferer, or whether it's a reckless approach given the lack of clinical trials. (And I know you can't really answer that one either!) God bless.   Slartibartfast Sat, 17 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi David, I've always tried to answer questions but some of my replies are deleted from this website and many genuine testimonials that I have posted have not appeared. So that people can see for themselves the scope and breadth of salvestrols in treating cancer I have compiled the testimonials in articles on the websitewww.goarticles.com   gerrypotter Sat, 17 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Mark Its a shame you didnt know about the cream. The salvestrol cream was specially formulated to treat basal cell carcinoma and melanoma. It is also usefull for rubbing into areas where there are solid lumps near the skin surface. This cream is super concentrated in salvestrols and has a good local effect. Is it possible that the salvestrols will eradicate the cancer completely? Slarti would like that question !!! I have to give a fair answer and say I dont know. I hope that it will eradicate the cancer completely and have reasons to believe that this is possible. In the case study on melanoma the lady concerned did not see the first real signs of tumour regression until after about 3 months. After 6 months her recovery was well under way, but it took a whole year before she was deemed to be free from cancer. So you have to be patient with salvestrols and you cant push them any more to work faster. They are working with the human body, and so the healing occurs at a rate that the body can cope with. Gradually the whole body will have the entire cancer burden under regression and it is possible to eradicate the cancer completely. gerrypotter Sat, 17 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Slartibartast, Was disappointed that there was no response to your comments/queries from Gerry. Wonder if there are anyone out there who are taking salvestrols to treat their cancers and have had positive results or some form of improvements. We are talking about genuine testimonials of course. So far, whatever one can find or read about here in the cancer compass forum is very limited, despite salvestrols being in the market for so many years. I too really wish that you have found the cure for cancer, Gerry. I am sure many people do so too. David kclimtan Sat, 17 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry   I did not find out the name yet. It was just a brief phone call from the oncoligist. Im not sure if I can get the cream here in New Zealand. I will send an email to David Vousden he may know the answer to that. I am very pleased with the results. Esp that the bone metastisis seem to be healing. I am feeling a lot more positive about the effects of the salvestrols at the moment. Is it possible that the salvestrols will eradicate the cancer completely?   Mark bundy Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Mark These are encouraging results and at least you have started to see the salvestrols working. How long have you been on them now, is it 2 or 3 months? Your body will be going through a lot of changes as the salvestrols start to work at removing tumour cells from the body. These proceeds in stages so you cant expect it all to be tackled at once, especially as melanoma is highly metastatic and had already spread to your bones. The dose you are on should be maintained, but I think you could get extra benefit by using the salvestrol cream and rubbing this in to the afflicted area since this will allow high concentrations of salvestrols to be delivered topically. Have you tried the cream yet on any melanomas and does it have any local effect ? I think this new raf inhibitor by GSK could help with the metastasis. Did you find out the name of this new drug ? gerrypotter Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry   Had results from my oncoligist. He said that the melanoma on my bones has healed up or is healing. Which is great. But he also said there appears to be a new metastisis developing on my chest tissue just under the skin. Also there appears to be something on my liver that he said is not consistent with melanoma. He said that darcarbazine can sometimes do this. Do the salvestrols sometimes make things show up as they are killing off the cancer. Is it weird that some would die off while others would form?   Mark bundy Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Fernando, I  have also heard about positive effects of Saw Palmeto for people with prostate cancer and it probably also contains salvestrols. Salvestrols, Zyflamend, and Saw Palmeto are all perfectly compatible and should complement one another. Pomegranate and Licorice also contain compounds that fight prostate cancer and these ingredients have been formulated together with salvestrols in a new product especially designed for prostate cancer called "Salvestrol Prostate Support" which can be taken once daily alongside salvestrol platinum for added effect. Currently this product is only available in the UK and Europe. gerrypotter Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 16, 2012 9:31 FernandoMP wrote: Dear John,Many thanks for your answer. I am from Portugal. My father started to take the Salvestrols yesterday. He will be taking the Salvestrol platinium 3 times a day (6000 points/day) and he will be also maintaining the Flyxamend as a suplemment.I have one more question if you don't mind. What do you think about the Saw Palmeto? I was told by my brasilian friend (who was also diagnosed with a prostate cancer two years ago) that the Saw Palmeto could also bring some beneficts to the treatment (together with the Salvestrols). Do you agree? Is it feasable to have the Salvestrols with the Flyxamend and Saw Palmeto as supplements all at the same time? Kind regards Fernando I spell it wrong... it is not Flyxamend... but Zyflamend. FernandoMP Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear John,Many thanks for your answer. I am from Portugal. My father started to take the Salvestrols yesterday. He will be taking the Salvestrol platinium 3 times a day (6000 points/day) and he will be also maintaining the Flyxamend as a suplemment.I have one more question if you don't mind. What do you think about the Saw Palmeto? I was told by my brasilian friend (who was also diagnosed with a prostate cancer two years ago) that the Saw Palmeto could also bring some beneficts to the treatment (together with the Salvestrols). Do you agree? Is it feasable to have the Salvestrols with the Flyxamend and Saw Palmeto as supplements all at the same time? Kind regards Fernando FernandoMP Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Fernando, Abiraterone (Zytiga) is currently only licensed for prostate cancer patients that have already had chemotherapy, and it is expensive. Salvestrols are a much more realistic and affordable option. These can be taken alongside hormonal therapy (e.g. Lupron and casodex) if he is still receiving this type of therapy. Zyflamend is a blend of 10 herbs. Some of these herbs are rich in the most powerful salvestrols (such as holy basil, rosemary, ginger and oregano) and will compliment salvestrol therapy. In fact some of the herbs in Zyflamend are used in traditional chinese medicine for treating cancer such as scullcap. Zyflamend is completely compatible with salvestrols and they should work well together. Which country do you live in ? gerrypotter Thu, 15 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Gerry, First of all please accept my apologies for my poor english as this is not my first language. I am very happy I found this blog. The first time I heard about you and the salvestrols was a couple weeks ago and, believe it or not, was from a friend of mine who lives in Brasil. After some internet research, all I can say is that you are an admirable person for your courage and truly dedication giving hope to many many people around the world who suffer from many different kinds of cancers. Like Miss Shemay has said in this blog before, I also salute your bravery.I would like to ask you a couple questions, but first I would like to make a small resume of my father´s problem.He was diagnosed a prostate cancer in 1994 (18 years ago!) when he was only 54 years old. Since then he has been under several drugs and already went through radiotherapy (in 1996). For several years his levels of PSA were kept under control (between 2.0 and 4.0) but two years ago his levels started to rise very rapidly showing he has become hormone independent. For the last few years he has been under Lupron and Casodex. His last analyses (every three months) reveal the PSA levels between 35.0 and 45.0. I don’t know if you consider it a miracle or not, but his last PET Scan and last bone scintigraphies still shows no signs of metastases to the bones or other organs. Maybe my father is a case study… Many Oncologists say there’s nothing they can do at the moment but wait until the cancer start to spread to the bones and other organs and then go ahead with chemo. When I told them about the Abiraterone, they say that the drug is extremely expensive and must only be provided to very advanced and terminal patients and only after they have been through chemo.In my country, Abiraterone is not on sale and I thought I could buy it from other countries but then there is the price which is incredibly expensive. I have been thinking to start selling all my belongings in order to buy this drug to help my father. But a couple weeks ago I heard about the salvestrols and then everything changed. Maybe this can be the miracle treatment that my father has been looking so desperately. The price looks affordable and the hope is high.So these are my questions: - Can he take the salvestrols together with the Lupron and Casodex (hormone treatment)? Does it make any sense even knowing that these two drugs are apparently not working anymore? Or should he stop taking these drugs and admistrate the salvestrols only? - Few months ago, my father started taking a supplement called Zyflamend which is a herb base supplement composed by several ingredients (rosemary, turmeric, ginger, holy basil, green tea, hu zhang, chinese goldthread, barberry, oregano and balkal skullcap). Is Zyflamend compatible with the salvestrols? Can he take them together?Kind regardsFernando  FernandoMP Thu, 15 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT   Hi Gerry That would be great.  I will  ask the oncoligist when I see him early next week. Hopefully things are going well enough with the salvestrols that my Ct scan will be showing healing. I only had one metastise on my sternum last scan.   Mark bundy Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT "I'm not searching for the cure for cancer any more because I think I've already found it." That's a very powerful statement, Gerry. In other words, you're stating that - in your opinion - anyone who takes a high enough dose of salvestrols for a long enough time will get their cancer into remission - and presumably it'll stay there as long as a high salvestrol level is maintained. Do you genuinely believe this? I mean, do you mean exactly what you say rather than this being a rhetorical statement? I'd like to believe that you do mean what you say! Best wishes Slartibartfast Mon, 12 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Mark The bRaf inhibitor from GSK sounds interesting. This is the sort of targetted therapy that I approve of. This is aimed at specifically targeting Raf which is involved in the pathogenesis of some types of cancer. If this has been a well designed drug then it should complement salvestrol therapy. If you can find out the name of the drug then I can help find out more about it, Gerry gerrypotter Mon, 12 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT  Hi Gerry   Will keep you posted. I have a CT Staging scan booked for thursday and then an oncology appointment after that with results. They want to put me on a bRaf inhibitor from GSK. Im not sure?   Mark bundy Mon, 12 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT On Mar 10, 2012 9:11 PM bundy wrote: Hi Gerry   Im not to sure on that. I have been taking 12000 points per day now for 3 months. Prior to that I took 6000 points for a month. I think that is a high enough dose? Hopefully I will get some good results at the next scan with my oncologst.  Fingers crossed. Are you still able to do your research?   MarkHi Mark, the dose of 12,000 points per day is ample. A dose higher than this has never yet been needed, so you are on the highest recommended dose. There is not much point in taking more than this although it is safe to do so. Patience is required since it can take several months to see tangible benefits. Please let me know how you get on with your next oncology appointment. I am still able to do research, but I'm not searching for the cure for cancer any more because I think I've already found it. So you have to know when to stop looking any further, and then to make this cure as widely available as possible, which is why it has finally reached New Zealand. I am mainly working in collaboration with other countries trying to develop diagnostic tools that can measure the efficacy of salvestrol therapy from blood or urine samples. This will help with the clinical trial program that is being set up, initially to look at treating lung cancer. gerrypotter Sun, 11 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Prince Charles is my hero and I thank God for the monarchy ! God save the queen and prince charles they are priceless. Without charley who would we have speaking in favour of natural medicines. Charles supports the Gerson Diet approach and so do I. The Gerson diet contains all the fruits rich in salvestrols so ther is every reason for this to work. It also forms the basis of a valuable cancer preventative diet. This article was published in 2004 and there was great opposition from the medical establishment of Charles's claims that the Gerson Diet could be used to treat cancer. There were follow up articles from "Cancer Specialists", such as Prof Baum who know nothing of this area, saying that this was nonsense and that the Prince should not interfere with such matters as health. At this time the only cancer specialist that could speak in favour of charley was me, and I was being detained by her majestys NHS prison service. So I could not speak out, but my son could. Robert Potter wrote a great letter to "The Lancet" explaining that Prince Charles could actually be right. This was called "The Prince and the Pauper", bless him. Of course the letter was later discredited saying my son had a conflict of interest. So I am grateful to Prince Charles for speaking out on various issues, and showing that he is in favour of natural medicines, and he supports our growing organic projects and the Eden Project of which he is patron. gerrypotter Sun, 11 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Pres Obama can learn a few things from Prince Charles - http://www.annieappleseedproject.org/princharsupr.html andy73 Sun, 11 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Sheila, your reply really uplifted me ! Its great to know there is another intelligent human being out there in the world that can see the bigger picture. Its true when you said "there is a chance that your exposure on this public board just might bring you back into harms way". This is a real possibility and I am genuinely worried about being taken back to a high security mental health unit run by our national "health" service NHS. This is just an illegal prison system with no judicial rights. There is no court to say "guilty as charged". There is no charge. They simply lock people up who rock the boat in society. I am sure they are using this illegal detention system with other people and I am not the only one that has been detained in this way. I do not know when or what the authorities will try next ! They've attempted the quackery approach but failed miserably. I was accused of quackery on a website that I found was registered in Mexico to a consortium of 5 major pharmaceutical companies. So with the quack accusations coming from big pharma thats a sure sign youre on to a winner since it shows big pharma is under threat. So there accustions that salvestrols curing cancer is quackery shows there is no smoke without fire and something must be ratling their cage. Shortly after the introduction of chemotherapy developed by the chemical industry into the UK, the 1939 cancer act was passed in the British parliament. The 1939 cancer act prevents anyone from making any medical claims for curing cancer on any natural therapy. In particular this prevents making any claims to treat or claim to treat cancer for any herb or natural product. For the last 80 years this legislation has prevented anyone being able to say anything in the UK about claiming that a natural remedy works for cancer. In China the situation is different and TCM traditional chinese medicine is widespread, using various herbal preparations for treating cancer. I am currently working with countries whose government supports using natural approaches to medicine and in these countries we will be succesful. The UK and US governments can both screw themselves with radiation and chemotherapy ! I'm getting out of this stupid UK (Under Kontrol) country as soon as I can get a passport again ! gerrypotter Sun, 11 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT "In several areas of our collective existence, the status quo guards crumbling mansions, and nowhere are the cracks more evident than in Western medicine. While modern Americans have acquiesced almost hypnotically to the prejudices of our medical establishment, the suppression of free thinking has never been, and never will be, a permanent thing. In medicine, as elsewhere, a renaissance in higher consciousness is beginning to take hold in America. It awakens us from our collective enslavement to an overly materialistic bias, and herein lies our greatest hope for the healing and renewal of the Western world"  Foreword to the book 'Reclaiming Our Health' by John Robbins. (this book is very good if get a chance to read)  andy73 Sun, 11 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Dear Gerry First let me say how greatly I admire you personally not only for the courage you show by posting the story of the  experiences you suffered through at the hands of the "powers that be" in your country but also for the thoughtfulness and dedication you continue to show by taking the time to share such valuable, hope giving information about the efficacy of salvestrol,abiraterone and many other proven effective supplements in treating many types of cancer when there is a chance that your exposure on this public board just might bring you back into harms way. I salute your bravery. So many of us who believe in natural healing are considered radicals when we suggest that certain members of our governments may be in cohoots with big pharma in their concerted war against proven natural healing substances and the practitioners who dare to step outside the box, follow their  hippocratic oath and successfully treat patients naturally at great risk of medical censure by their peers and superiors.  One has only  to do a Google search on the many prosecutions and persecutions of alternative practitioners, especially in America over the past 50 or so years to learn the truth about the power of Big Pharma and their  paid underground minions such as the members of Quackwatch.  http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/QuackWatchWatch.htm Here in Canada, a bill was given third reading by our Senate that took away one of our most basic rights. "The Canada Consumer Product Safety Act (Bill C-36):  Passed third reading in the Senate Dec. 13/2010 Removes The Rule of Law. Sacrificing the rule of law leads to tyranny and loss of freedom. Rule of law has become a dominant legal principle in free countries around the world. It is the fundamental underpinning of a free society. Bill C-36 removes the rule of law for Canada's entire consumer product industry and it's people. Shifts Control To Bureaucrats. The Bill represents an unprecedented change in the powers of how the state confronts the citizen. The rule of law and private property rights are all but extinguished where consumer products are manufactured, retailed and distributed. This affects a huge sector of Canada's economy and its citizens. Bill C-36 exchanges private property rights for oversight by bureaucrats. Ignores Canadian Sovereignty. International trade agreements and foreign laws can be adopted without Parliamentary debate. Health Canada has written out the need for approval from Canada?s elected or appointed officials in the House of Commons and the Senate. The Federal cabinet can incorporate documents from foreign governments or organizations as law. This will fundamentally change the ground rules for the consumer product industry and Canada?s democratic process. Bill C-36 allows Canada to automatically adopt foreign laws. Removes Legal Rights. The real change brought about by Bill C-36 is not that it protects consumers; rather the real change is the abolition of procedural safeguards citizens currently enjoy. It abolishes the rules and principles that give the Canadian consumer product industry their privilege of due process. Bill C-36 doesn?t improve your safety, only bureaucratic power. Shifts Power from the Provinces to the Parliament. The Provinces are allowing the Federal Government to regulate in the Provincial jurisdiction of property and civil rights. This represents a significant transfer of power from the Provinces to the Federal Government. Bill C-36 has Provincial independent control submit to the Federal Government. Is Unconstitutional. The search and seizure powers in Bill C-36 are probably unconstitutional for violating the right found in section 8 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. In Canada you are still guaranteed to be free from “unreasonable search and seizure.” 'Reasonable' is an important legal standard. However, Bill C-36 would grant unqualified, untrained or inexperienced inspectors judgment calls in an area historically reserved for experts. Bill C-36 allows unconstitutional searches and seizures without a warrant. Short Summary (cont’d) The Canada Consumer Product Safety Act (Bill C-36): Presumes Guilt. The Health Minister determines guilt. This violates the right found in section 11 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. In Canada you are “to be presumed innocent until proven guilty according to law”. Persons can be fined and have property forfeited to the State for administrative violations. They would have no right to have a Court determine their guilt or innocence. There is no defence of due diligence or of honest but mistaken belief. There does not have to be a safety risk to be charged with an administrative offence. Bill C-36 allows colleagues of the bureaucrat who charges you with an offence, to determine your guilt. Removes the Law of Trespass. Bill C-36 abolishes the law of trespass. Inspectors can enter onto any property without a warrant. Inspectors can do this without being liable for doing so and are exempted from the law of trespass. Bill C-36 threatens our defined Canadian property rights and gives the State free access. Allows Private Property Searches. Bill C-36 allows warrants to be issued to search private homes without evidence of criminal wrongdoing. Bill C-36 allows a health inspectors belief to authorize a search warrant for private property. Is An Unnecessary Law. Bill C-36 is being promoted as necessary to protect our families. However, under the existing law the State is already granted significant powers to protect safety. The Hazardous Products Act, The Criminal Code and Civil Penalties are existing laws already working to protect Canadians. Bill C-36 creates extreme conditions that are unsafe for Canadian businesses and citizens. Removes Court Supervision. Bill C-36 allows the State to seize property without a Court order. It allows the State to assume control over the movement of private property without a Court order. There is no limit to the amount of property that can be seized. There does not have to be a safety risk to justify the seizure. There are no defined time limits to the length of seizure. Directors, officers and managers are personally liable for „violations?by their company. Bill C-36 trades judicial review for a bureaucrat?s opinion. Creates a Conflict of Interest. Bill C-36 sets up a significant conflict of interest. Health Canada may benefit financially from fines and the seizure of private property. The power that decides what you are charged with is the same power that sets and collects the fines. Bill C-36 justifies Health Canada?s creation of this enforcement to keep fines to pay for itself." Following is just one small example of what power Health Canada had even before this Bill was passed.     DR. ELDON DAHL RAIDED BY HEALTH CANADA AND RCMP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNYalYTwm9A It frightens me now to know that my own doctor, so talented and dedicated and with a great track record for healing cancers naturally may now have no recourse under the new law if a health inspector (who by the way requires no medical credentials)  decides his practices are unacceptable. Shemay Sun, 11 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry   Im not to sure on that. I have been taking 12000 points per day now for 3 months. Prior to that I took 6000 points for a month. I think that is a high enough dose? Hopefully I will get some good results at the next scan with my oncologst.  Fingers crossed. Are you still able to do your research?   Mark bundy Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Mark I least you saw the reply I sent you about the high expression of CYP1B1 in melanomas, and the response of the 94 year old lady with melanoma. So why I wonder has this original reply been deleted fron the discussion ? gerrypotter Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Gerry   No I dont think I got your reply. I did get your message about the 94 year old woman with melanoma. Is this the one we are speaking of. Or did you have more information for me?   bundy Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT You guys may be interested in the Documentary ""Bancer the Forbidden Cures"" to see just what Big Pharma, with the help of Governments, will do to stop the distribution of natural cures for Cancer, I know there are a lot of scams out there regarding cures for cancer, but we need to know about natural medications and make up our own minds about them. http://prostatecancernetwork.ning.com/video/cancer-the-forbi Johnfwf Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT I left a reply in this discussion for Mark who had requested more information on Melanoma which has been deleted. This backs up my point that my contributions to discussions on this website are being censored and I cannot tell the full story. Mark, did you ever see my reply ? or was it deleted after you had replied already ? gerrypotter Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT The powers that be include the police and the NHS so I do not trust either institution. I can hardly ring the police up and tell them I was kidnapped from my own home by police officers. I was kept in a high security unit of an NHS mental hospital in Leicester called "The Brandon Unit". Here I was kept under gaurd with no human rights of appeal. This was worse than being a political dissident and the British Government should answer to the human rights courts for political improsinment without a court. It was only after 4 years imprisonment that I was released in February 2010 and could tell anyone what had happened. My local press then ran a story published in the Leicester Mercury, about me having spent time in a mental hospital, but they would not publish my full story because it was too scarey for the public. The NHS spends £300 per month on my depot injections and medication to keep me sedated to prevent me from stepping out of line and telling anyone about my experiences or the fact that salvestrols are curing people of cancer. The NHS would be better off spending this money by treating 5 cancer patients with salvestrol platinum. Thats the irony. I am actuall surprised that my comments on this public website hve not yet been deleted. This is the first time I have been able to truthfully tell anyone about my experiences of having been locked up in a mental hospital for over 4 years, and have been taken back by police everytime I step out of line. Even now I am scared that the next knock at the door will be the police. I just go as peacefully as possible these days because I know where they are taking me and why. So if I do not reply to these blogs you will know it is because the boys in blue have taken me back to yiddly-doo. Each time my relatives think that I have relapsed and I cannot tell them the whole truth. It is so cathartic and therapeutic for me to be able to tell someone about my experiences and I feel so much better for doing so. gerrypotter Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Gerry - That's an utterly frightening story; I don't know what to make of it. I read a bit about you when finding out about Salvestrols and saw the article in the Leicester paper that said you'd suffered mental health issues related to overwork, and had spent a year in hospital. But you're stating - or implying - that this hospital episode was enforced by the "powers that be". I just don't know what to think...... and I now don't know what to make of Salvestrols ..... either they are (as you have suggested) a cancer cure or they're a promising treatment that you've invested too much hope in, and it's forced you to the brink...... Sorry to hear of your troubles, Gerry. I hope your discovery really does turn out to do what it says on the tin - I'll keep my wife taking them, whatever. God Bless.   Slartibartfast Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi John   Great that sounds like you are extremely positive about them. I have been on them since December and my sternum that was really sore. As in I had to stop work. Is now easing right back. I am hoping it is the salvestrols working. I ahve learnt so much from this blog in the last few days so thanks to all of you guys. bundy Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi Bundy, There is no way that I will ever have Chemo. My intention when Zytiga fails for me, is to start taking Salvestrols, in both the the cases mentioned in my previous post, the cancer was retreating, it was the Chemo that caused the damage to their Liver, ultimately causing them to pass away.  Johnfwf Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT Hi John What is your opinion on the salvestrols?   bundy Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:00:00 GMT I have been following this blog since it started and was in fact the person who started the "Salvestrols at work blog, back in May 2010.http://prostatecancernetwork.ning.com/forum/topics/salvestro I am also the person mentioned in Gerry's Case study regarding my sister in the UK, ( I live in Australia ) who's sister was abandoned by the medical profession in the UK and placed into Palliative care, as there was nothing they could do for her. As she had nothing to lose, I suggested that she try Salvestrolshttp://prostatecancernetwork.ning.com/forum/topic she passed away from the damage caused by the Chemo, even though the brain mets had become almost undetectable and her lungs were healing. Another friend who was diagnosed with bowel cancer and was told that he had only months to live, started taking Salvestrols, his cancer was starting to heal, (much to the surprise of the oncologist) but again he passed away, from Liver failure, again from the effect of the Chemo. Cause of death, on the death certificate, Liver failure””, no mention of Bowel Cancer. I have been on the Abiraterone Phase III trial for patients who had not had Chemo, since February 2010, the trial is still proceeding and it is still working for me. Here is an extract of my journey so far:- After undergoing a biopsy, I was diagnosed with inoperable Prostate Cancer. For five years prior to the diagnosis, I had 6 monthly PSA and digital inspections, my PSA was 5.0 and has never been higher. other than after a TURP (Transurethral Resection of the Prostate), when it went up to 7.0. At the first digital inspection, there were lumps in my prostate, but I was told by my MD that they were caused by age. It was only on my request that I was sent for a biopsy. Eight specimens were taken and they all came back positive. My Gleason score was 4+4=8 and the cancer had moved outside the Prostate. I was told by the urologist that I had a very aggressive cancer. The only options I was given, was hormone treatment and radiation. I was on Lucrin (aka Lupron) for 6 months then received 36 radiation treatments. The radiation damaged my bowel and anus also I am Impotent and have ED. I was having tri-monthly Lucrin injections for about five years, then my PSA started to rise again to 5, I was informed that my cancer was in the advanced stage and I was prescribed Casodex, as well as the Lucrin. I have been passing quite a lot of blood in my urine for the past 3 years, but after 2 exploratory operations which failed to stop the bleeding, I was told I had to live with it, as they couldn't find the source of the bleeding.Last month (October 2009) my PSA started to rise again and I was advised to see a Medical Oncologist regarding the advances in Chemo for the problem. The oncologist did not recommend that I be treated by chemo, but suggested that I go on a Trial, being run by Cougar Biotechnologies, who are testing the drug, Abiraterone Acetate plus Prednisone (CB7630). I have agreed to take place in this trial, but there is a 50% chance that I will be administered a placebo, as it is a randomized Double Blind Placebo Controlled Study, which of course means that if I get the Placebo, I will not be receiving any medication for the length of the trail. except my Lucrin injections (choices, choices).The cancer has now moved into a 2.5cm lymph node in my abdomen, so it is spreading. I am now in the lap of the Gods, wish me luck! UPDATED February 2010 Since October 2009, I have finally got the medication for the above mentioned Trial, today 5 February 2010. Over the last 3 months, I have absorbed more radiation than Hiroshima, enough blood taken to feed Dracula for a year and travelled who knows how many Kms to and from the Hospital for tests. Lets hope that it was all worth it. I will start taking the horse tablets(they are huge)tomorrow, 4 X 250MG tablets on an empty stomach = 1000MG, then wait for an hour before eating, plus one 5MG Prednisolone with food twice a day. If I survive the first day and don't choke to death on the tablets, I will keep you all informed on my progress whilst on the Trial. Later: Well, I received very good news this morning, 19 February, regarding my PSA: in two weeks, since I started the Trial, it dropped from 5.8 to 3.8, so I hope that means that I am taking the actual drug and not the placebo. No side effects from the drug, so far. The only side effects that I have added to my list, are from the Prednisone. Hopefully It will still continue to drop at my next appointment on 3 March, when I have my next round of blood tests. UPDATED March 2010 Another day of good news, 3 Mar 2010. My PSA has dropped again from 3.8 two weeks ago, to 2.6, My blood Pressure has gone from a little low, to back to normal, (eating bananas for Potassium). Only four weeks into Trial and so far no known side effects. Looking good so far. Next set of blood test on 18 March.. 18 March, 2010. I had to miss my appointment for Blood tests on 18 March, because my wife was very sick and I had to stay home with her. My next appointment is on 1 April, when I will have scans as well as blood works. So far everything is good on the Trial, I had been passing blood in my urine for about the last 3 years and that stopped about 4 weeks ago. Other than bursting into fits of laughter for the smallest of reasons (Prednisone side effect), I am feeling no worse than when I started the Trial. I hope that the initial low blood pressure, the cessation of blood in urine and falling PSA, means that I am not on the Placebo arm of the Trial. UPDATED April 2010 Well the good news continues on the Trial. My PSA dropped to 2.3, Scans showed that the Lymph node invasion has shrunk slightly. My next appointment is 15 April, for blood tests. The bone scan was also clear. UPDATED June 2010 15 April, 2910. The good news is that I got the results of my Blood tests today and my PSA has now dropped to 2.1 ng/L. Only a small drop, but it dropped and that is the main thing. I was told that I can stay on this experimental drug until it fails to work, hopefully that will a few more years yet. I only wish this drug was approved for general use, as it seems to be working for me, so hopefully it will not be to long before it is available for all Terminal Prostate Cancer sufferers. 30 May, 2010. Blood tests yesterday, 29 May and got the results today, PSA is still falling, it is now only 1.6ng/L. I am a very happy and lucky man that this experimental treatment is working for me, it was a 50% chance of getting the drug or the placebo and I got the drug. All you people out there, who have been told that there is nothing further that can be done for you, get onto your doctors and demand that they find you a trial that you are eligible to take part in, if you get on the placebo arm, then join another trial, never loose the faith that there is a cure out there for you. The other good news today is that Provenge has been approved by the FDA, now let’s hope that the cost will be covered by the insurance companies, or better still that it will be covered under the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme, so that everyone eligible, will have access to this treatment. Good News Week. I have just started Cycle 5 of the Phase 3, Randomised, Double-Blind, Placebo-Controlled Study of Abiraterone Acetate (CB7630) Plus Prednisone. It's all good news, my PSA is still dropping, be it slowly, it’s dropped to 1.4, down from 1.6 at the start of Cycle 4. I consider any drop as very good news, as I would accept a stable PSA as good news, so a drop is fantastic. All my scans, i.e. CT and Bone have not changed and the rest of my Blood works are good. I can LIVE with the side effects, a lot of which are from the Prednisone, I start Cycle 6 on 24 June, but they are only Blood tests, no scans. So to all you Guys out there, suffering from advanced PCa, please try to hang in there until this drug is approved, which as far as I am concerned, it should be, sooner rather than later. Maybe we could petition Cougar to add a Compassionate arm, so that sufferers could apply for the drug on compassionate grounds, as saving lives and giving hope, is surely the name of the game. [I'd like to think that is so, but regret that shareholders may be more important that patients, income being more important to some than outcome.] Later: Had my blood tests again yesterday, 24 June 2010, the result is that my PSA has dropped to 1.3, only a small drop, but anything is better than a rise and the cancer still seems to be under control. Whenever Traditional medication or treatments start to fail, find a Clinical Trial, preferably one that is in the Phase III stage. Best thing I ever did was to take part in this Tri