by Slartibartfast on Mon Mar 05, 2012 09:56 PM
"Now I understand how the body disposes of cancer cells on a daily basis I am not worried about any tumours building up into solid lumps. I ensure that tumours in my body are destroyed on a daily basis. Did you know that there are about 1000 malignant cells formed every day naturally."
You're saying, of course, that your daily salvestrol capsule will de-activate these 1,000 cells.
If this is guaranteed, then you're also saying that cancer is an entirely preventable disease - if the NHS paid for everyone to have a daily Salvestrol Platinum, the scourge would be over (and so would the NHS's financial problems!) A staggering thought!
But what happens when these cells accumulate into millimeter size, centimeter size or even grapefruit size lumps?
Will the salvestrols still "chisel them away" given enough time and a bigger (therapeutic) dose or do these larger lumps present an entirely different problem which can't always be overcome by salvestrol ingestion alone?
by JeanPaul on Tue Mar 06, 2012 05:16 AM
Salvestrol interactions will not be the only mechanism for inactivation of malignant cells - there is the normal immune response system which is also serving the 'stay healthy state'. Perhaps Salvestrol can fulfil the role of a rescue system if normal immunity breaks down. Of course one could ask where does one system begin and the other fail? We are complex organisms! Any comments Gerry?
by Slartibartfast on Tue Mar 06, 2012 05:48 PM
"Salvestrols can produce substantial shrinkage of tumours and in some case tumours have shrunk to half their size within a monthe of therapy."
Do salvestrols ever produce complete and lasting remission from cancer, Gerry? My wife, awaiting a colonoscopy appointment, has said that if cancer is found she doesn't want surgery or chemo and would rather take her chances with salvestrol therapy. This freaks me out a bit and I'm not sure if this is a dangerous gamble.
On the other hand, you said in an earlier post that if you had cancer you would cure it (your choice of word) with high dose salvestrols. You didn't mention doing surgery or chemo as well, and I assume you meant that salvestrol therapy would be the sole -or at least primary - treatment.
Obviously you can't advise my wife what do do but I'd be interested in your views.
Your point about the pharmaceutical cartel "owning" cancer treatment is heartbreaking when an effective preventative could be available to every UK citizen at minimal cost. Truly I sometimes despair of this world and humanity!
by gerrypotter on Tue Mar 06, 2012 06:14 PM
Dear JeanPaul, we are indeed complex organisms and both systems work together. The immune system can mop up rogue cancer cells too, but this requires a healthy immune system. I think the immune system tries to mop up tumours that have not been destroyed by salvestrols, but if this population is too high the immune system cannot cope.
I believe salvestrols also help control the immune system by eliminating aged immune cells that start attacking the body. I think the salvestrols help clear out the old immune cells so that the young immune cells can work efficiently. When the immune cells are young they fulfill their role in immunosurveilance, but as they get older they should die off naturally. If they did not die off the body would fill up with white blood cells. The natural form of death seems to be by switching on CYP1B1 so the salvestrols are activated and the aged immune cell dies. There are many thousand immune cells produced by the body each day, and if these build up it leads to diseases such as leukaemia and lymphoma. In arthritis it is these over mature immune cells that carry on living and start attacking the bones. Its interesting that salvestrols also work against these diseases of the immune system.
by gerrypotter on Tue Mar 06, 2012 06:43 PM
I believe that "you" are the only one that can cure yourself of cancer, so what your wife decides to do is completely up to herself.
All I can do is offer advice, and now at least you know about salvetsrols. I want people with cancer to know about salvestrols so they can make their own mind up.
by gerrypotter on Tue Mar 06, 2012 07:07 PM
Dear Slarti you asked about complete remissions and long term survivors on salvestrol therapy.
The first salvestrol product was only launched in 2004, so the longest term survival recorded is eight years. The first lady to try salvestrols had advanced stage IV ovarian cancer that had spread around her body. She had already been given radiotherapy and chemotherapy, and had exhausted all treatment options. She did not have anything to lose by taking salvestrols, so she became the first person to try them. She is still alive today and is fit and healthy. Here is her strory.
In 2004 I was introduced to a 53-year old lady who was diagnosed with stage IV ovarian cancer that had extensively metastasised around her body. She was a keen golfer but had given up the sport due to her ill health. When I met her she looked very unwell indeed. I explained to her that we all have a special enzyme in our body that can destroy cancer, but this has to be triggered by salvestrols to work. She commenced taking one Salvestrol Platinum capsule each day for a period of 6 months. There was no sudden change in her condition, but slowly there were sure signs of improvement. She was starting to feel gradually better as the months passed, and after 3 months the tumours started regressing. This regression continued at a slow but sure pace until after 6 months there were no signs of any cancer remaining. At this point she felt well enough to take up her favourite sport of golf playing again with friends. She has continued to take Salvestrol Shield (350 points) every day since to prevent the cancer from returning. I met her recently, 8 years after she was diagnosed, and she looked so vibrant and full of life. It is hard to believe she is the same woman that I was first intoduced to back in 2004.
by ainars on Wed Mar 07, 2012 09:12 AM
Dear Gerry, you wrote that -The tumour cells likes salvestrols because it can eat them and feed off them when they are in low levels. So along comes a salvestrol into the tumour cell appearing as some food. It does not want to pump it out of the cell, it wants to hold on to it for as long as possible so that it can eat it. So the tumour cell keeps filling up with salvestrols until it reaches a level that switches the CYP1B1 enzyme on.
How can we know that our body absorbs the salvestrols properly and we can reach a level that switches the CYP1B1 enzyme on? Can be the situation when we take salvestrols for three month, but our body is empty from salvestrols at all? Is there some indirect way (urine or blood tests) for checking salvestrols level during taking in?
by gerrypotter on Wed Mar 07, 2012 01:31 PM
If you are taking salvestrols in supplement form you do not need to worry about absorption. These are specially formulated to contain the "free" salvestrols which are readily absorbed by the small intestine and pass into the bloodstream.
You need at least 10 points in the diet to trigger the mechanism to work. A portion of fruit or veg that weighs about 100 grams will provide 20 points so this meachnism works for a single meal containing vegetables or fruit.
The salvestrol platinum contains 2000 points, so this is 100 times stronger than the diet alone. At this level there is ample salvestrols to destroy tumours in a very effective way.
We have developed diagnostic tests for measuring salvestrol levels in blood and urine, but these methods are not yet registered for clinical use. We have also developed a blood test to measure the CYP1B1 levels in the body which measure tumour progression and regression. The best test I can recommend is the Navarro Clinic urine test. This measure the levels of human chorionic gonadotrophin (HCG) and its level can be correlated to tumour progression. Once a baseline Navarro test has been established then the reduction in HCG levels will correlate with tumour regression. I recommend this test on the advice of Waterloo Don who told me about it, Gerry
by gerrypotter on Wed Mar 07, 2012 03:41 PM
Only organic fruit and veg contains 20 points per 100g. Supermarket non-organic produce contains 2 points per 100g.
So you need one portion of organic food to trigger the tumour destruction mechanism, which requires a minimum of 10 points.
The calculation is based on natural fruits and vegetables. So organic just means naturally grown. The only real way to ensure this properly would be to grow your own but many people have no gardens these days. People always used to grow and exchange their home grown produce. Now with the advent of fungicides commercially grown crops are woefully low in salvestrols. If you do not watch what you eat it is easy to slip below the 10 point threshold.
by bundy on Fri Mar 09, 2012 09:25 PM
I am using you salvestrols for melanoma. I live in NZ and am hopefully going to be used as a case study for the guys here. What are your thoughts on CYP1b1 and melanoma. Is it found to be present and is salvestrol therapy effective for melanoma?
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