Natural Alternatives to Chemo?

Hello and blessings to all,

I have read these various messages in regard to "Natural Treatments" and it seems based on a Alternative philosophy--choose one or the other. It's been my experience as an 11 year stage 3B Ovarian Cancer and a Holistic RN that it is all good. "Whatever seems to work" is many times the war cry and what is chosen, and that is fine.

I can honestly say that I think it would be totally irresponsible to try only "holistic" methods. Remember, these are drugs too and have various side affects, et al, otherwise they would be useless. I have used a combined approach, and I'm still here and intend on being around for quite some time!

To the lady that says she "healed" 7 people of various cancers. This seems odd, as the various cancers are like totally separate diseases and likewise have totally different regimens and approaches. One for everyone doesn't ring very true. Were these people actually diagnosed with cancer at a reputable facility? Someone once told me that she went to a Chiropractor who healed her of a cancer that he could "tell she had from muscle testing." Such cases are totally unsubstantial. And further, how long have they been cancer survivors? Is there any follow up testing to see if the cancer is recurring?

Someone mentioned Essiac tea, the Ojibway herbal mixture that Renee' Caisse (Essiac spelled backward), an RN swore by. I have found this to be totally worthless and the holistic MDs and Naturopaths that I know agree. Perhaps it is good for some of the side effects of chemo. or just a good combination of herbs to help, but will not totally erase the cancer. As a stand-alone treatment, I wouldn't do it.

The placebo effect is very strong, and this can account for Chemo or whatever we use to work also, as long as you fully believe in it. Taking your mind off your own problems, no matter how sick you may be, or how sick others have you talked into being, and thinking about something else is helpful too. Denial does work, partially.

Cancer is a very broard range of diseases that require a broad range of treatments, and some people need quite aggressive ones such as chemo, radiation, etc, according to the actual cell that you are dealing with. Personally, I used a combination of surgery, chemo, supplements, guided imagery and meditation, the latter two accounting for at least 50% of my success. I have found in my 11 years that supplements/diets are best for the side effects of chemo and cancer, but not the mainline of treatment.

Sorry if I sound preachy, but I've been down this road on both sides of the street and have come to KNOW that you need everything that you can get to beat it! Most importantly, get a competent, SPECIALIST in the field, not just any old "oncologist", i.e., as I have ovarian ca, I go to a highly recognized gyn oncologist at the CTCA. She is wonderful and is a Cancer survivor herself. I went to 4 oncologists before finally settling on her. You must either be a strong advocate for yourself or have someone to do this for you. Don't settle for less. This is your life!

Light, love and blessings,
B. Kathleen W.

This message is for Jill. I am interested in the therapy you call high ph cesium. I am not sure how to contact the moderator but would like more info. I am the main caregiver for my husband who has throat cancer that has metastasized to his lungs, liver and bones. He is currently taking chemo but the treatments are causing radiation recall. He suffers from 24/7 secretions which are made worse by the chemo. He is in so much pain once he has the treatment. Any info you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Eileen

Please contact me via e mail at the following address:
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From there we can chat on the phone and I can try to answer as many questions as you have in order to make you feel comfortable. I can also put you in contact with people who have used this very-effective protocol, as well as provide authoritative literature from the medical community. Please be aware that I have seen this work in very severe and dire circumstances, with most agressive terminal cancers. And moreover, it works very quickly, with pain reduction or elimination soon after starting the therapy. This fact will also be documented for you in the authoritative medical literature provided.

Jill I am interested in your therapy. Please let me know how to get info on it. You can email me at --- Message edited by CancerCompass staff: for personal protection, email address removed. Please review CancerCompass Member Guidelines at http://www.cancercompass.com/common/guidelines.html ---- Thanks!
Vicki

Hi Arlene.
I have a lot of information for you. Please e mail me at: --- Message edited by CancerCompass staff: for personal protection, email address removed. Please review CancerCompass Member Guidelines at http://www.cancercompass.com/common/guidelines.html ----

Jill can you tell me more about high ph cesium therapy? I am stage IV Prostate Cancer following unsuccessful RP surgery.

Perhaps you can reply with a web page link or your email address?
Thank you.

Richard in the Houston, TX area

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Hi Sedonalady.
I understand the cause of your concern. And as one who is frustrated by the volume of information out there, much of it not particularly helpful, let me assure you and the other readers that each of the people in question were under the care of a doctor or oncologist. Most of them discussed the therapy with their doctor. Three of them used a combined approach including conventional medicine and this alternative.

High pH cesium therapy is nothing like herbal tea. It is an extensively researched and documented, comprehensive protocol. I have included above, a link to PubMed, which is a publication of the National Health Institute.

Please understand that I am not saying that I cure cancer. I only provide access to existing authoritative information (which is available but not widely known), to individuals who express an interest. And if upon a thorough investigation they decide to proceed, I provide them with the information with regard to the places where this treatment is available.

Sedonalady. I would be VERY grateful to you, if you would contact me so that we can discuss this. I could provide you with the information. If you review it and believe it has merit, then you are in a better position to disseminate this information than am I.

As a small example of such information, here is an excerpt from the PubMed Abstract:
"The majority of the patients have been unresponsive to previous maximal modalities of cancer treatment and were considered terminal cases. The Cs-treatment consisted of CsCl in addition to some vitamins, minerals, chelating agents and salts of selenium, potassium and magnesium. In addition, a special diet was also instituted. There was an impressive 50% recovery of various cancers, i.e., cancer of unknown primary, breast, colon, prostate, pancrease, lung, liver, lymphoma, ewing sarcoma of the pelvis and adeno-cancer of the gallbladder, by the Cs-therapy employed."

Respectfully,
Jill

Hi Richard,
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You can go to cancertutor.com to read about high ph cesium therapy.

Dear Jill,

Thanks for your sincere and quick reply, I can see this is something you feel very passionate about, as I do. I presently have to pace my activities, both mental and physical as I just received LOTS of meds and Chemo on Monday (5-8) and flew back from Chicago and this is the day I probably WOULD totally crash were it not for all the other things, including natural remedies, that I do.

I also have learned to live my life and not obsess so much on this cancer that I really don't claim as mine any longer. I am interested in what you have to say, and will get back to you definitely. When? I can't say. Didn't mean to denigrate your recommended therapy, but believe me, I have heard so much and I feel it my responsibility to communicate what I have learned through my journey to others in the same situation. I am strong and hard headed and that is also something good to be for one with my current challenge.

Talk with you again and many blessings to you and all at this site, or, you could send me your email address and we could communicate that way? It's up to you.

Very sincerely,

Sedonalady

I would be truly pleased to provide you with my email address and to get your thoughts and impressions on all of this. I can be reached at: --- Message edited by CancerCompass staff: for personal protection, email address removed. Please review CancerCompass Member Guidelines at http://www.cancercompass.com/common/guidelines.html ----.

Good wishes to you, and thank you very much for your interest and any assistance you could provide.
Sincerely,
Jill