State 4 Lung Cancer and a Heart Attack..

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State 4 Lung Cancer and a Heart Attack..

by Amyangela on Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:00 AM

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My mom, 75, was diagnosed with cancer three weeks ago. Two weeks ago, she had a heart attack. One week ago, we were told she had Stage 4 lung cancer. Before all this, she was fine...the last time she was in a hospital was 30 years ago. She's home now recovering from the heart attack. The doctors won't touch her to treat her for the cancer until she heals from the heart attack. She wants to fight the cancer and is willing to do chemo. But her doctors are treating her like she's dead...telling us we need to find a hospice. Does anyone have any experience with a heart attack and cancer simultaneously. I know the odds are stacked against us, but my brother, sister and I are standing behind her to help her wage the biggest battle of her life.

Try Tarceva

by Curemom on Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:00 AM

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You may suggest to your doctor the drug Tarceva (especially if she's a "non-smoker". My mom (60) started Tarceva, and in fact, has done well enough that the Doctors have held off Chemotherapy. Not sure where your mom's metastis showed up (Stage IV means the cancer has traveled). I can see doctors not wanting to start radiation or chemo at this point, However Tarceva, has less side effects. Tarceva is less stressful to the body then Chemo and radiation, and if it works, could provide your mom with a fighting chance. Good luck and G-d Bless

Tarceva For Lung Cncer

by Betsey on Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:00 AM

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To: Curemom Am wondering what your Mom's lung cancer cell is? My husband has lung cancr that is Basaloid cell, not the usual non-small cell. The Tarceva sounds very promising. Has anyone else had experience with Basaloid cancer in the lungs? My husband's cancer started as skin cancer of the right temple, spread to right parotid gland causing facial droop , then to left lung and now to right lung. We have been told by Dana Farber and Sloan Kettering that there is no good chemo for this cell type. Would appreciate hearing from anyone with this cell type. Nutone

Heart Attack & Cancer

by Carolyn830 on Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:00 AM

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I suggest you look into H202 therapy. See if you can find an MD who will give her H202 IV drip that takes about 3 hours. Flooding her system with oxygen will help her heart and also kill cancer cells that cannot live in an oxygen enviornment. I am also giving my wife Barley Power that has 3,000 enzymes. It is the only substance I know that has the same number of enzymes as our body. Check out www.cancertutor.com How this helps. Al

Tarceva

by Curemom on Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:00 AM

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My mom has the adenocarcinoma, which is the more typical lung cancer. From the sound of things your husbands cancer appears to metastized to the lungs from another source (skin). Tarceva, at least as far as it has been tested deals with lung primary. That being said I have read where Tarceva has also received approval for other cancers (I believe Pancreatic). Although my mom is not being treated at Sloan, we did receive our second opinion from them, and felt very good about there advice. What I might ask sloan is whether there are any drug therapies (like Tarceva) that your husband can use. Even with Lung Cancer Chemo tends to have only a limited response, you should (if you haven't already) consider clinicals, or if nothing is available alternative medicine. Good luck and G-d Bless.

Cancer

by Heavenmyrealhome on Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:00 AM

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My name id Debbie, my e-mail is --- Message edited by CancerCompass staff: for personal protection, email address removed. Please review CancerCompass Member Guidelines at http://www.cancercompass.com/common/guidelines.html ---- I have small-cell lung cancer and have just finished my last chemo, now they will be working on the brain area. I had a heart attact wile undergoing chemo....yes your Mom can be treated, where are you takeing her now if I may ask?? You need to get her to John Hopkins in Baltimore Maryland which is the best hospital in the USA. Ask for appointment with Dr Meyer. You will most likely need a referal from her primary care doctor, do not stop fighting, and never never let anyone tell you there is know hope, they are not God and they should not ever try and play God. Write me if you need and I will keep you in prayers. debbie

Tarceva

by Kate13 on Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:00 AM

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Thanks for sharing. The cancer may be in both lungs. My mom hasn't had the PET scan to check the rest of the body. How are you paying for the drug?

Alternative Medicine

by Ramon on Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:00 AM

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I'm sorry about your mom's diagnose and poor prognosis. In dealing with cancer, several factors are taken into consideration. Age and physical health being the two most important ones. The oncologist have to weight the pros and cons of chemo. Giving chemo to a 75 year old woman whose general overall health is not optimal: would it better or worst her situation? will it cure her? for how long? if it cures her, will the quality of her remaining life span be improved or at least remain the same or will it worsen it? Be careful. A 75-year old heart is more willing to quit than to fight. Its Biology 101. My 80 year old mother has incurable angiosarcoma diagonosed in the summer of 2004, she was given only 6 motnhs. It metastized to her lungs in the summer of 2005. She was given again only 6 months. Today she is asympthomatic (but the cancer is still there, lurking like a hungry shark ready to bite). The key is to keep it confined, to keep it from invading other organs, to keep it from growing, to keep it from further metastizing. Her oncologist could have given her chemo at $10,000 dollars per treatment, made some money out of her and see her die before the fourth treatment. He instead told us the truth: chemo will kill her sooner that the cancer itself if let alone. The reason for the surrender before the fight? her age. She is strong. She had never been in a hospital since my birth in 1966. Very healthy woman, never drank alcohol, never smoked, went to sleep early, etc. Her blood work shows excelent results. She cooks, walks, shops, travels out of the country very often. The doctor told us that the chemo will have her bed-ridden, destroy her immune system, cause vaginal, nose and perhaps ear hemorrages with frequent trips to ER for blood transfussions, vomits, headaches, pain over all her body, might cause loose teeth, hard to control vertigo, blood clots, imsomnia, stress, uncontrolable shaking, diahrrea, loss of apetite, loss of hair, depression and she would have to use a walker or wheelchair to move around, if able to stand up. All this, he said, for a chemical that would not cure her because there is no cure for metastized angiosarcoma, the prognosis is 100% fatal, no small window for hope. She seems happy now, exited on helping plan one of her great-grand-daughter' wedding and planning another out of the country trip for October. Is the cancer going to kill her? Most likely. Does she know it? I'm sure she does. But in the meantime she is living fully, enjoying every day. Alternative treatments she is taking (for a year now): 1.- Flora flor escence (detoxifier) 2.- Flax seed oil w/cottage cheese (high lignan) 3.- Modified Citrus Pectin (Pectasol brand) 4.- Vitamin E (high in tocopherol/tocotrienol) 5.- Compound X (Two Feathers Healing Formula) 6.- Multivitamin (vegetable-made ingredients) 7.- Ozone therapy (IV, 1 x week) 8.- Hydrogyen Peroxide therapy (IV, 1 x week) 9.- Mega dosis of vitamin C (IV, 1 x week) 10.-Minerals, proteins, vitamins (IV, 1 x week) 11.-0 % sugar intake (use Stevia sweetner) 12.-Sub-lingual B12 (dropper and/or tablet) 13.-She goes to church every Sunday now and is at peace with God (last time she attended church before the cancer invaded was in 1976 after her younger daugher married) Next on her list to try: 1.- Escozul (poison from Blue Scorpion, only found in Cuba but can be smuggled to Mexico and then to USA, we'll see) 2.- Laetrile IV (vitamin B17, forbidden in USA but available in Mexico and Canada) 3.- 714X 4.- Phosphyltydylcholine IV Last year she was very brave and wanted to have chemo, until the doctor told us what chemo would do to her. And it was so hard for me to accept that she would not have chemo, it was horrible to go home and do nothing. Then we turned to alternative medicine, and she is ok now, as ok as she could be with such a horrible monster eating her inside. Good Bless You and guide the two of you in taking the right decision, whatever that might be. Note: If you don't understand or want to know more about any of the mentioned tratments, just search it at www.google.com

Stage 4 Lung Cancer and a Heart Attack

by Sharm on Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:00 AM

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Hi Amy C, Sorry to hear about your Mum. I know how you feel, a friend of mine has lung cancer and has been sent home by doctors with the same attitude. They removed the non-small cell tumor and just as a precaution decided to do chemo and radiation (he never realy got over that). Several months later he now has an aggressive but rare cancer completely different from the one he started with. As far as your Mum goes, do some research on Coenzyme Q10 in theraputic doses 1200mg per day to help get her heart back on track it will also help with the cancer. We have also started my friend on Liquid cellular Zeolite (hey! it cant hurt and it just might save his life)along with Oxy-E and MSM and Defense. I found some interesting stuff on www.Cancer-Prevention.net There is so much out there and its all so confusing and expensive you end up spending your life savings to save your life. But, I believe these are battles that can be won. If you believe it also and leave no room for doubt, that the method you choose to treat you Mum will return her to health,it will happen (well at least thats my 'tack' at the moment) I wish you and your Mum all the strength you need to get through this. Sharmin

Cancer

by Ladyhawk on Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:00 AM

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I have not had a heart attack and cancer,but I do have cancer. If you want to help your mother take her to God in prayer and go to the following web site. Read it all. I have mastetised breast cancer in my lung and bone. I did a lot of praying and believe God led me to this site. I was on Chemo. for a year 3 times a month. It did help the lung, but not the bone. I started using some of the supploments and my bone cancer became stable and now it it showing improvement. I thank God for this.Here is the web site. hhp://cancer-prevention.net
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