Small trial suggests the scans might help, but experts aren't so sure
by ewells1014 on Thu Dec 05, 2013 08:32 PM
My mom was diagnosed in April with Stage IIIA adenocarcinoma of the lung. She had the middle lobe of her right lung removed, 17 lymphnodes (about half of which were cancerous) removed, and did 12 weeks of chemotherapy. She's had several (many!) MRIs and a few PET scans since then, and her entire body is cancer-free *except* for her brain--this cancer has spread. She had SRS radiation of her brain a few months ago to take care of a few spots. She had another MRI last week that showed the two spots were gone, but four more have appeared, and there are two "suspicious" spots as well. She's scheduled for whole brain radiation beginning Monday, Dec. 9. 15 minutes a day for 14 days. Anyone have any experience with this? Will this take care of the cancer once and for all?? I don't understand if her PET scans are clear and her whole body is cancer free, how are these spots getting to her brain? Are they going to continue to grow/pop up, or will the whole brain radiation take care of it? Does anyone have a friend or family member who was in the same situation? What was the outcome?
by homes5th on Fri Dec 13, 2013 08:49 PM
My wife started with stage 3B lung cancer. They removed part of her right lung and about 6 lymphnodes. $ and a half years later the cancer spread to her barin. 6 tumors. They removed 1 and gave her full brain radiation. That was 2 years ago. They have found two spots on her liver and a few on her spleen. They also found a complex cyst in one of her breasts about 4 weeks ago. 2 years ago the doctor told me that no one would be surprised if she lived for 6 months or 2 years.
The cancer cells are on the blood, and other parts of the body, being transported.
To be blunt, it does not look good. I see my wife fadeing away little by little.
I know this is not what you wanted to hear, but there is a good chance this is what is going to happen. I am sorry about the new. I hope I am wrong.
by ewells1014 on Fri Dec 13, 2013 09:13 PM
Thank you so much for sharing your and your wife's story! I don't know whether I'm sad or relieved. Everything I'd read about lung cancer that spread to the brain said that median survival time is about 4 months, so I was a bit freaked out!! The thing is, every single site I visited trying to find this out never mentioned whether or not this estimate of time left included treatment. Is it 4 months for people who do nothing, or is it 4 months for people like your wife and my mom who have treatments. So, to hear that your wife has managed to live another two years is both reassuring and a bit sad at the same time. Has she been having chemo or radiation for the new spots on her other organs and breast? I feel so sorry for my mom...if for nothing else, she spends all her free time running to doctors appointments or MRIs or radiation. She's only on her 5th day of her whole brain radiation, but so far it's not *too* bad, she says. She was nauseous for the first few days, but now that's passed and she's just really, really tired. She has 9 treatments left. How did your wife do after her radiation? Did she have any lasting effects (memory loss, cognitive ability loss, etc.)? I'm so sorry to hear that her cancer has spread. :(
by tisjoan on Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:14 AM
On Dec 05, 2013 8:32 PM ewells1014 wrote: My mom was diagnosed in April with Stage IIIA adenocarcinoma of the lung. She had the middle lobe of her right lung removed, 17 lymphnodes (about half of which were cancerous) removed, and did 12 weeks of chemotherapy. She's had several (many!) MRIs and a few PET scans since then, and her entire body is cancer-free *except* for her brain--this cancer has spread. She had SRS radiation of her brain a few months ago to take care of a few spots. She had another MRI last week that showed the two spots were gone, but four more have appeared, and there are two "suspicious" spots as well. She's scheduled for whole brain radiation beginning Monday, Dec. 9. 15 minutes a day for 14 days. Anyone have any experience with this? Will this take care of the cancer once and for all?? I don't understand if her PET scans are clear and her whole body is cancer free, how are these spots getting to her brain? Are they going to continue to grow/pop up, or will the whole brain radiation take care of it? Does anyone have a friend or family member who was in the same situation? What was the outcome?
On Dec 05, 2013 8:32 PM ewells1014 wrote:
by cytoluminator on Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:26 PM
I have dealt with 7 patients who had lung cancer mets in the brain, 5 had radiation which slowed it down slightly but never ended it. I think you should ask the physician who is suggesting the treatment to show you research papers on the outcome statistics with the recommended treatment.
Tell him or her you want to see at least 3 independent research papers on the subject.
Generally speaking at this point many doctors consider the patient to be terminal and are just offering palliative care but they know it won't help in the long run.
There are alternatives which can stop this situation and if they are managed properly can end the cancer completely, but you will not in my opinion get them from a hospital.
by jcharth on Wed Jan 29, 2014 01:04 PM
My mom has been in a similar situation. She had cancar in the lung stage 3a 2years ago. She became mostly vegetarian then and had lung surgery. They remove half the right lung and some of the glands back then. She tried chemo for a year because she was afraid of radiation. But the cancer came back within a year and she had radiation and chemo again. Then she went on tarceva but that did not work. They found seven tumors in the brain and she had gamma rays done in Jan 3. She is feeling good now. She takes x4000 curcumin, flax and now the latest thing she is trying is soursop leaf tea. She is still vegetarian and take a good multi vitamin with iron and b12. She will have her next test on Feb 15. Gamma Rays work better than expected she was loosing balance on Dec 23 but now she even goes to the supermarket.
by hanhsi on Mon Mar 03, 2014 04:57 PM
Please read the links below for Lung Cancer success story. My sister has breast cancer stage 4, and it spread to her liver, bone, spine and the doctors said she will be expired within 6 months. She also took the same cancer cancer medicine and recover. Please try, we have nothing to lose, because the medicine has no side effect and not contradict with chemo nor radiation.
Until my sister was told she is not curable by the hospital, we went on line to search and want to try the nature medicine, Paw Paw Cell-Reg develop by Dr. Jerry McLaughin. Two months ago, my sister could not sit up from bed, and we had to push her on wheel chair from bed to bathroom. She lost her appertise, and lost more than 30 lbs within 2 months, and her stomach was filled with fluid that she had to be drained every 3 or 4 days, 3 liters each time. We all prepared to loose her, but after found the medicine and taking for 5 weeks, she started to rise from bed herself, then she began to use the walker herself and start to eat more. After 2 months, she can go upstair to take shower all by herself, and 2 days ago, she went to grocery with her husband after 4 months. We do not see miracle before, but I do believe now. Dr. Jerry McLaughin was a professor in Purdue University. The goverment, granted him 5 millions to research and for more than 10 years, he found the cancer medicine, develop from the twig of Paw Paw tree, called PAW PAW CELL-REG. I am writing this to you because we went thru this with my sister. Please try, Here is the link you can learn more if you wish
Many Blessing and Best Wishes,
by jcharth on Mon Mar 03, 2014 08:26 PM
paw paw and soursop are cousin plants. I have read that paw paw is more powerfull. I am not sure that you need to get a magic cure from Dr Jerry but It cant hurt to get some leafs from amazon. I got 300 leafs for $11. My mother gets her leafs from a local tree.
by cytoluminator on Tue Mar 04, 2014 03:55 AM
Thank you so much for posting your story about the paw paw cell-reg. I would like to know more, espeically about the dosage, did she take the recommended 4 caps a day or more?
We have been using paw paw for years, but being in the Philippines we have a natural source which I have studied in great detail.
I can tell you that while the leaves have a very small amount of acetogenins (the active component) it is not a good source and I would never use that alone to treat cancer. The green papaya fruit (papaya and paw paw are interchangeable words for the same plant) has about 100 times more acetogenins per gram, but people have gotten quite sick from too much of that.
It is true that soursop, graviola, contain a small amount, but it is also not enough to treat cancer.
The amazon price is very reasonable, you are talking about roughly a dollar a day for treatment. Based on years of experimenting with the paw paw plant I would strongly recommend the use, and definitly would say you should get the carefully calibrated known concentration paw paw cell-reg product and not bother playing around with leaves, fruits, soursop (graviola).
To the poster who told the story about the success with this, PLEASE take time to go to my website http://cancer.cytoluminator.com and in the contact page there is a place to email me. Just drop me a message to let me know how the patient is doing, how much of the paw paw cell-reg she took, and any other things she was using.
This information could save a lot of lives. I would never rely on just one adjuvant, and if your patient is not in complete remission I can recommend some proven things to add to her treatment.
by jcharth on Mon Mar 24, 2014 07:52 PM
I believe there are a few varieties of papaya. Some are related to soursoap so are not. She is taking 4 glases of tea a day. She makes the tea in the morning with 20 shreded leafs. So far she is doing ok and she is feeling good. I am waiting to see the results of the new exam on april 4.
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