Cancer Treatment Centers of America

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Cancer Treatment Centers of America

by Cooliet on Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:00 AM

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Does anyone have personal experience from being treated at the Cancer Treatment Cernters of America??

I would be interested in positive or negative information.  I am considering going there, so I would really appreciate if you would take the time to respond.

Thank you so much,

cooliet

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by Raine on Sun Feb 18, 2007 12:00 AM

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Hi, I've talked to them and started the process for my husban but ran into some insurance problems.  Jim has bluecross threw gm salery and they wouldn't pay enough for him to be able to go. I was really inpressed when talking to them.  If you have the right insurance I would go.

 It's so important to go somewhere that they really know cancer, Our experice with the local hopital in Indianapolis is that not everyone is equal.  They will use a overall approach the we didn't see with our doctor.  I really feel the nutrition is important and out never even brought it up and a couple of other things I found out on the internet, our doctor never even talked about.      God bless and good luck   Lorraine

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by Robertsophia on Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:00 AM

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My dad goes there in Tulsa.  They are great.  My dad had stage 4 pacreatic cancer and now he no longer has pacreatic cancer, but he still has 2 spots on his liver that they are working.  I recommend them over anybody else.  They don't just treat the cancer they treat your whole body.  They also have state of the art equipment.  I hope the the best for you.

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by Cooliet on Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:00 AM

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On 2/22/2007 Robertsophia wrote:

My dad goes there in Tulsa.  They are great.  My dad had stage 4 pacreatic cancer and now he no longer has pacreatic cancer, but he still has 2 spots on his liver that they are working.  I recommend them over anybody else.  They don't just treat the cancer they treat your whole body.  They also have state of the art equipment.  I hope the the best for you.

Thank you so much for responding.  I have never heard anyone ever getting better....much less having the cancer disappear... when they've had pancreatic cancer!!!!  I am convinced now that I should go there and be checked.  Thank you again for letting me know about them.

God's Blessings to you and your family!

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by Cooliet on Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:00 AM

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On 2/18/2007 Raine wrote:

Hi, I've talked to them and started the process for my husban but ran into some insurance problems.  Jim has bluecross threw gm salery and they wouldn't pay enough for him to be able to go. I was really inpressed when talking to them.  If you have the right insurance I would go.

 It's so important to go somewhere that they really know cancer, Our experice with the local hopital in Indianapolis is that not everyone is equal.  They will use a overall approach the we didn't see with our doctor.  I really feel the nutrition is important and out never even brought it up and a couple of other things I found out on the internet, our doctor never even talked about.      God bless and good luck   Lorraine


Lorraine,

 Thank you so much for letting me know about your experience.  I am sorry that the insurance was a problem for you. I wish the insurance companies would allow any treatment the patient and doctor felt necessary.  I don't remember how they got so much control over patients they have never seen!!!!  I've been blessed to have good insurance and I am going there for an appointment.  Thanks for sharing....I'll try to update after my appointment.

God's Blessing be on you and all your family!!

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by irsequalizer on Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:00 AM

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I do not have any personal experience with the Cancer Treatment Centers of America but I do know that the FTC went after them in 1995 for false and misleading advertising. The Centers alledgedly made unsubstantiated claims concerning their treaments and their success rates compared to other treatment facilities. With such a serious decision as to which facility I should go to treat my particular cancer, I would want a facility with the latest treatment for my paticular type of cancer.

Look at the National Cancer Institute website for the particular cancer and see what studies are being done and at what facilities in this country or elsewhere treat my type of cancer. Also, there is a recent National Cancer Institue reseach study that showed no difference in eating fruits and vegetables or not for improving your cancer.

I know the Mayo Clinic has a deserved worldwide reputation for their research and treatment of cancer. With that said, I would not blindly go to Mayo if they did not have the best treatment for my particular type of cancer. Doing your own research and getting second or third opinions from physicians in the field is the best source for your treatment facility. A for-profit TV advertising facility like the Cancer Centers of America would not top my list as a treatment facility no matter nice and friendly the staff may be. My concern is finding a reputable facility that can cure my type of cancer. Your insurance will be paying for all of their staff members who comprise their holistic approach to your cancer.  Mayo has treament centers on Arizona, Florida, and Minnesota.

Remember all treatment facilities are interested in the insurance dollars that they will get for your treatment. Spend those dollars wisely. As one person who responded on this message board said, the insurance they had was reaching the max of their policy limits. Do not think for a minute that any of these for-profit cancer facilities or most of the non-profit will give you the care that you may desire if the insurance funds are not there.

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by Hannam on Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 2/15/2007 Cooliet wrote:

Does anyone have personal experience from being treated at the Cancer Treatment Cernters of America??

I would be interested in positive or negative information.  I am considering going there, so I would really appreciate if you would take the time to respond.

Thank you so much,

cooliet


I talked to them several times and gave them all of our insurance info,but they had to have $15000 upfron and said they needed to redo all of the tests that were hardly 30days old. They said they couldnt be sure if the info was correct. The people we talked to were very nice but we couldnt get past the cash

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by Chevella on Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 8/18/2007 irsequalizer wrote:

I do not have any personal experience with the Cancer Treatment Centers of America but I do know that the FTC went after them in 1995 for false and misleading advertising. The Centers alledgedly made unsubstantiated claims concerning their treaments and their success rates compared to other treatment facilities. With such a serious decision as to which facility I should go to treat my particular cancer, I would want a facility with the latest treatment for my paticular type of cancer.

Look at the National Cancer Institute website for the particular cancer and see what studies are being done and at what facilities in this country or elsewhere treat my type of cancer. Also, there is a recent National Cancer Institue reseach study that showed no difference in eating fruits and vegetables or not for improving your cancer.

I know the Mayo Clinic has a deserved worldwide reputation for their research and treatment of cancer. With that said, I would not blindly go to Mayo if they did not have the best treatment for my particular type of cancer. Doing your own research and getting second or third opinions from physicians in the field is the best source for your treatment facility. A for-profit TV advertising facility like the Cancer Centers of America would not top my list as a treatment facility no matter nice and friendly the staff may be. My concern is finding a reputable facility that can cure my type of cancer. Your insurance will be paying for all of their staff members who comprise their holistic approach to your cancer.  Mayo has treament centers on Arizona, Florida, and Minnesota.

Remember all treatment facilities are interested in the insurance dollars that they will get for your treatment. Spend those dollars wisely. As one person who responded on this message board said, the insurance they had was reaching the max of their policy limits. Do not think for a minute that any of these for-profit cancer facilities or most of the non-profit will give you the care that you may desire if the insurance funds are not there.


 

Your message was very enlightening.  I feel the same way about organizations that advertise, regardless of how well-meaning they are.  Sloan-Ketterling does not advertise, nor do the doctors at Saint Alphonsus Cancer Treatment Center.  I'm glad Peggy Kessler is apparently cancer free, but I'm glad I was treated where I was.  I've been cancer free for ten years - small cell lung cancer.  I was fortunate enough to have good insurance at the time, and to have qualified for a clinical trial.  If not for these, I doubt that I would be here today.

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by George17 on Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:00 AM

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I have prostate cancer and being treated in Tulsa.  I live in Georgia.  I can tell you that, in my opinion, these people and what they are doing is the best.  My wife and I saw an ad on television and told her sister, whose husband has colon cancer, to call them and see if there was any treatment CTCA could do for our brother-in-law.  The doctor in the cancer facility in Athens, Ga., where he was being treated, told him there was nothing else they could do for him since his treatments wasn't working. Essentially telling him to go home and die.  Other cancer facilities in Georgia basically confirmed the Athen doctors conclusion.  Not good news to hear.   My brother-in-law contacted CTCA and they had him go to Tulsa where they ran tests and decided that his treatments should be slightly changed and continue.  That was 2 years ago, he is still here, not dead, and CTCA saved his life.  He is still fighting the cancer, but he is alive doing it. 

I found out I had prostate cancer which was a eye opening slap in the face type thing to be told.  You think cancer only happens to "other" people, not you.  Surprise, you aren't immune any more than anyone else.  I got on the internet and searched for days to find out as much as I could about the cancer and the treatment for prostate cancer.  My wife and I called all over Atlanta, then to UCLA, M.D. Anderson, Mayo Clinic and even a place in Canada to find out about the available treatments and side effects of those treatments.  I didn't really like the alternative effects, or possible effects the places I called said may occur with their treatments.  We called CTCA and they asked me a number of questions, the last of which was who was my insurance company, then had me come to Tulsa for a consulation and test to be run.  It was the second best decision I ever made in my life to go there, the first being marrying my wife. 

I now have a 97% cure probability and I like that.  These people treat you like you are a person, not a number.  They know you after the first visit and care about you because they know you.  They have the state of the art equipment and are holding to no one to give the best available treatment for whatever your cancer is.  I have met so many people that were told, basically like my brother in law, nothing else can be done, just go home and get your affairs in order.  Those people are still "getting their affairs in order" years after they should be gone. Thank God for CTCA.

As far as insurance companies and their "we won't cover the treatment from CTCA" response, I have to ask, "Who made them the decision makers for which doctors or treatment centers will treat my disease"?  I believe the patient should make that decision and if you pay an insurance company to insure you medically, then that is their responsibility, not to determine which doctor or facility should give you treatment.  I'm sure your congressmen and state insurance commissioners would like to know that you are not going to be covered for medical expenses because the insurance company doesn't want to pay for treatment that they sold you coverage for.

 We are fighting to get a CTCA in Atlanta so that people in the Southeast won't have to travel hundreds of miles to get this facilities treatment.  The Georgia legislators and the cancer providing facilities, even the Georgia Chamber of Commerce, are fighting this.  Why?  It all has to do with money and power, not with the best interest of patients.  The CTCA proposed for Atlanta will be a 50 bed facility.  The other cancer facilities are saying they will take "customers" away from their facilities and treatment.  I don't think I ever heard where these facilities had "squatters rights" on any patient.  There is more than enough cancer patients, and future cancer patients, to go around to fill those facilities beds and recieve their treatment in the patient so chooses. 

Anyone whom has not talked to or seen first hand the compassion and the pure want to help of the doctors and staff of a CTCA should take it upon themselves to be, at least, objective enough to do so before condemning CTCA.   The emotional benefit a patient receives from the CTCA people is awesome.  The treatment and research they do is beyond words, in my opinon, and I'm sure the many patients being treated by them feel the same. 

As far as a for-profit facitity goes, yes CTCA does make a profit from their treatments.  Little do most people know, a great portion of the profits go back into CTCA cancer research.  Also, they are self funded, meaning they do not have to ask approval of a governing state body for funds to get the latest in techinology, people and equipment, to treat patients, they fund it themselves from their "profits".  Other facilities may be at the mercy of a legislative body for part of their funds.  I personally do not like the government telling me where or who I can be treated by, or how much or what a facility is allowed to treat people.

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by MarineMom on Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 3/3/2008 George17 wrote:

I have prostate cancer and being treated in Tulsa.  I live in Georgia.  I can tell you that, in my opinion, these people and what they are doing is the best.  My wife and I saw an ad on television and told her sister, whose husband has colon cancer, to call them and see if there was any treatment CTCA could do for our brother-in-law.  The doctor in the cancer facility in Athens, Ga., where he was being treated, told him there was nothing else they could do for him since his treatments wasn't working. Essentially telling him to go home and die.  Other cancer facilities in Georgia basically confirmed the Athen doctors conclusion.  Not good news to hear.   My brother-in-law contacted CTCA and they had him go to Tulsa where they ran tests and decided that his treatments should be slightly changed and continue.  That was 2 years ago, he is still here, not dead, and CTCA saved his life.  He is still fighting the cancer, but he is alive doing it. 

I found out I had prostate cancer which was a eye opening slap in the face type thing to be told.  You think cancer only happens to "other" people, not you.  Surprise, you aren't immune any more than anyone else.  I got on the internet and searched for days to find out as much as I could about the cancer and the treatment for prostate cancer.  My wife and I called all over Atlanta, then to UCLA, M.D. Anderson, Mayo Clinic and even a place in Canada to find out about the available treatments and side effects of those treatments.  I didn't really like the alternative effects, or possible effects the places I called said may occur with their treatments.  We called CTCA and they asked me a number of questions, the last of which was who was my insurance company, then had me come to Tulsa for a consulation and test to be run.  It was the second best decision I ever made in my life to go there, the first being marrying my wife. 

I now have a 97% cure probability and I like that.  These people treat you like you are a person, not a number.  They know you after the first visit and care about you because they know you.  They have the state of the art equipment and are holding to no one to give the best available treatment for whatever your cancer is.  I have met so many people that were told, basically like my brother in law, nothing else can be done, just go home and get your affairs in order.  Those people are still "getting their affairs in order" years after they should be gone. Thank God for CTCA.

As far as insurance companies and their "we won't cover the treatment from CTCA" response, I have to ask, "Who made them the decision makers for which doctors or treatment centers will treat my disease"?  I believe the patient should make that decision and if you pay an insurance company to insure you medically, then that is their responsibility, not to determine which doctor or facility should give you treatment.  I'm sure your congressmen and state insurance commissioners would like to know that you are not going to be covered for medical expenses because the insurance company doesn't want to pay for treatment that they sold you coverage for.

 We are fighting to get a CTCA in Atlanta so that people in the Southeast won't have to travel hundreds of miles to get this facilities treatment.  The Georgia legislators and the cancer providing facilities, even the Georgia Chamber of Commerce, are fighting this.  Why?  It all has to do with money and power, not with the best interest of patients.  The CTCA proposed for Atlanta will be a 50 bed facility.  The other cancer facilities are saying they will take "customers" away from their facilities and treatment.  I don't think I ever heard where these facilities had "squatters rights" on any patient.  There is more than enough cancer patients, and future cancer patients, to go around to fill those facilities beds and recieve their treatment in the patient so chooses. 

Anyone whom has not talked to or seen first hand the compassion and the pure want to help of the doctors and staff of a CTCA should take it upon themselves to be, at least, objective enough to do so before condemning CTCA.   The emotional benefit a patient receives from the CTCA people is awesome.  The treatment and research they do is beyond words, in my opinon, and I'm sure the many patients being treated by them feel the same. 

As far as a for-profit facitity goes, yes CTCA does make a profit from their treatments.  Little do most people know, a great portion of the profits go back into CTCA cancer research.  Also, they are self funded, meaning they do not have to ask approval of a governing state body for funds to get the latest in techinology, people and equipment, to treat patients, they fund it themselves from their "profits".  Other facilities may be at the mercy of a legislative body for part of their funds.  I personally do not like the government telling me where or who I can be treated by, or how much or what a facility is allowed to treat people.


I must agree whole-heartedly with the gentleman whose post appears above. My son (age 28) was being treated for cancer in the Atlanta area at a facility that has a reputation for being the best, state of the art treatment facility in the southeast area. We were only given 2 treatment options: traditional radiation and chemo, or clinical trials. Since at that time we had no reason to believe this facility couldn't provide the best treatment, we opted to go with the most aggressive plan of action they could provide--which was a combination of radiation and chemo.

They treated him for a little over 2 months at the Atlanta facility. During that time, some horrendous blunders and medical mistakes were made, including medications that were ordered but not given, and a blood thinner that was given for DVT blood clots that actually made the blood clots worse. No blood cultures were taken beforehand or during the ensuing 3 weeks. When the blood clots kept getting worse, they simply kept increasing the dose of the med. 

While he was undergoing treatment in Atlanta, he stayed in bed a good deal of time, and going out to doctor visits or treatments completely wore him out. When he was hospitalized in Atlanta, he came out of the hospital feeling just as bad or worse than when he went in. Then they told us they had done everything that could be done for him, and stated he had about 6-8 weeks. In essence they told us to take him home and let him die.

We contacted CTCA and they took him on. We flew to Tulsa where they promised us they wouldn't give up if we wouldn't. They outlined an amazing regimen of treatment including some treatments we had never heard of in Atlanta. In the initial blood labs they took, it was discovered the blood thinner he was on was actually making the blood clots worse because he had an anitbody in his blood that conflicted with the med. If the hospital in Atlanta had simply run a blood culture, they would have known that. Does this sound like the kind of treatment someone fighting for their life wants to undergo? When the doctors at CTCA changed his blood thinner and the he underwent some specialized physical therapy, the swelling in his legs went down dramatically, and the pain associated with the clots all but disappeared.

Our son underwent several amazing state of the art, cutting edge treatments at CTCA in Tulsa that shrunk the tumors and restored his quality of life. Our son defied all the odds, and lived another 7 months. During that time, he was not bed-ridden. He was up and about almost everyday, and did things like visiting with his friends, going places and enjoying life, he went and played paintball with his buddies and many other activities. CTCA enabled him to fight his cancer like the warrior that he was, and gave us 7 more precious months with our son rather than 6 weeks.

The only downside of going to CTCA in Tulsa was the travel. But I was in a fight for my son's life and I would have moved heaven and earth to get him the best treatment possible, even if that treatment was 800 miles away. Even when my son was doing better, the travel always exhausted him. How much easier it would have been on both of us to have a CTCA right here in the Atlanta area.

I was present at the hearing in front of the senate sub-committee regarding CTCA coming into Atlanta. It was distressing to sit there and listen to the attorney who represented the Georgia Community of Hospitals speak about negative impact on the existing hospitals and the "unfair proselytizing" of "customers" from other hospitals. Not one time did I hear him mention the unfair limitations imposed on cancer patients (NOT customers!!) who are seeking the best treatment for their disease. Since when is it up to the attorneys, or the politicians, or special interests to dictate treatments options? Cancer is a brutal disease, but what is truly despicable is the travesty of forcing cancer patients into the unenviable position of limited choice. It would seem to me that if the treatment these existing hospitals can afford is so good, why are they so afraid of CTCA coming in? 

The state of Georgia has an incredible opportunity to be on the cutting edge in cancer treatment. It would be abhorrent to deny cancer patients and their caregivers the advantage of availing themselves of the treatment CTCA can offer.

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