It would sure be beneficial if you posted everything, except for those posts that are truly personal, for all of us so that we can review all of the information. I just checked the test that are being done overseas and the bottom line is that there are no tests or trials that show that Ave was used alone. I was used in combination with standard chemo (folfox, etc that I used) and surgery plus radiation in some cases. It was stated clearly thatf it was used as a supplemment that it COULD help improve, in some cases. the side effects. I would still like to see that test or trial that states that alternatives will cure any form of cancer alone. You lead us to believe that the traditional approach is less effective and less desired My position was, if you recall, that a COMBINATION of the alternative, along with corrective surgery, radiation and chemo could provide the best results