CancerCompass message board discussion started by alecssmart on 1/16/2008 http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,19776,0.htm Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:00:00 GMT Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:00:00 GMT http://backend.userland.com/rss RSS.NET: http://www.rssdotnet.com/ My sister has Stage 4 cancer, squamous cell that has infected her lymph nodes and metasized to groin, some organs, and bone, and her legs swollen. Taxotere, cisplatin, carboplatin, etc,.. are no longer working. Has anyone tried or heard of getting high dose Vitamin C a/k/a ascorbic acid intravenous infusions to stop their cancer? I know there are some clinical reports on it, but wanted to know if anyone has had experience or knows someone who has had experience with it. Also, do u know of any place or doctors in Florida that are familar with the procedure to do it? alecssmart Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:00:00 GMT  On 1/16/2008 alecssmart wrote:My sister has Stage 4 cancer, squamous cell that has infected her lymph nodes and metasized to groin, some organs, and bone, and her legs swollen. Taxotere, cisplatin, carboplatin, etc,.. are no longer working. Has anyone tried or heard of getting high dose Vitamin C a/k/a ascorbic acid intravenous infusions to stop their cancer? I know there are some clinical reports on it, but wanted to know if anyone has had experience or knows someone who has had experience with it. Also, do u know of any place or doctors in Florida that are familar with the procedure to do it?HelloI am sorry to hear about your sister. I have actually been doing quite a bit of reading on IV Vitamin C and I plan to start my father on it in a few weeks when he is done with his chemo. i am trying not to overwhelm him with treatment right now. Based on what I have read, I think that is can definitely be worth a shot. It is a great immune booster and the IV will send it right where it needs to be. Oral doses of a similar nature would be impossible probably. There are also case studies where this alone caused remissions of cancers on patients that were no longer able to receive  any kind of conventional treatment. I dont live in your area so I dont know of any specific clinics but you might want to try searches for holistic, alternative or integrative clinics in your area. It is possible they will perform it or be able to tell you someone that does. also, if you do a search on physicians that practice orthomolecular medicine, they might provide the drips. Good luck with your sister and I definitely think this treatment can be of some benefit. kc1102 Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:00:00 GMT Here is a directory that might be helpful. If not, if you give me your approx. location in Florida I can check in the directory at the clinic I go to here in Canada.______ http://www.dmoz.org/Health/Alternative/Naturopathy/Practitio ______________________ On 1/16/2008 alecssmart wrote:My sister has Stage 4 cancer, squamous cell that has infected her lymph nodes and metasized to groin, some organs, and bone, and her legs swollen. Taxotere, cisplatin, carboplatin, etc,.. are no longer working. Has anyone tried or heard of getting high dose Vitamin C a/k/a ascorbic acid intravenous infusions to stop their cancer? I know there are some clinical reports on it, but wanted to know if anyone has had experience or knows someone who has had experience with it. Also, do u know of any place or doctors in Florida that are familar with the procedure to do it? Shemay Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:00:00 GMT Thanks for the reponses. I'm in South Florida. Closest cities are Miami, Hollywood, Fort Lauderdale, Davie, Dania, North Miami, Pembroke Pines.  alecssmart Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:00:00 GMT Perhaps this one will be more specific for your area http://www.healthprofs.com/cam/state/Florida.html?gclid=CJza I took Int. Vit.C. for my nHl for some months and now take one treatment every six or so weeks just for maintenance. If you'd like any information regarding this and other natural protocols I follow let me know. On 1/16/2008 alecssmart wrote:Thanks for the reponses. I'm in South Florida. Closest cities are Miami, Hollywood, Fort Lauderdale, Davie, Dania, North Miami, Pembroke Pines.  Shemay Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:00:00 GMT  On 1/16/2008 alecssmart wrote:Thanks for the reponses. I'm in South Florida. Closest cities areMiami, Hollywood, Fort Lauderdale, Davie, Dania, North Miami, PembrokePines. Hi alecsIresearched a faciltiy on Sunny Isles Blvd. in  North Miami Beachcalled the Dayton Medical Center, and was going to look into treatmentthere. The have a website www.daytonmedical.com the Dr there haswritten books on the Vitamin C chelation therapy.It appears to be areputable stateside facility offering the treatment you are requesting.With a young wife and two young children my family and I didn't havethe time to research it further and unfortunately most medical plansdon't cover what they term "alternative Medicine". If I was single Iwould of tried it first due to the fears of what the conventional Rad /Chemo long term side effects can be. Although in hindsight I am happywith the outcome of the treament I received at Mt. Sinai on Miami Beachand knowing that would go with this same treatment due to my succesfulresults. It is a very difficult decision to make and she needs to avoid"paralysis through analysis" of options and decide on a path and puther heart and energy into it. If she decides to pursueconventional treatments I recommend a Dr. Michael Samuels at the MtSinai Medical Center in Miami. He specializes in head and neck cancersand offers a comprehensive and careful treatment plan. I was treatedthere for a T3-N1 tonsil cancer and am very happy with the results andlack of side effects typically associated with the treatment.I hope she makes a decision she is comfortable with obtains a positive outcome from it. Regards,Matt   Amynmiami Sat, 02 Feb 2008 00:00:00 GMT  On 2/2/2008 Amynmiami wrote: On 1/16/2008 alecssmart wrote:Thanks for the reponses. I'm in South Florida. Closest cities areMiami, Hollywood, Fort Lauderdale, Davie, Dania, North Miami, PembrokePines. Hi alecsIresearched a faciltiy on Sunny Isles Blvd. in  North Miami Beachcalled the Dayton Medical Center, and was going to look into treatmentthere. The have a website www.daytonmedical.com the Dr there haswritten books on the Vitamin C chelation therapy.It appears to be areputable stateside facility offering the treatment you are requesting.With a young wife and two young children my family and I didn't havethe time to research it further and unfortunately most medical plansdon't cover what they term "alternative Medicine". If I was single Iwould of tried it first due to the fears of what the conventional Rad /Chemo long term side effects can be. Although in hindsight I am happywith the outcome of the treament I received at Mt. Sinai on Miami Beachand knowing that would go with this same treatment due to my succesfulresults. It is a very difficult decision to make and she needs to avoid"paralysis through analysis" of options and decide on a path and puther heart and energy into it. If she decides to pursueconventional treatments I recommend a Dr. Michael Samuels at the MtSinai Medical Center in Miami. He specializes in head and neck cancersand offers a comprehensive and careful treatment plan. I was treatedthere for a T3-N1 tonsil cancer and am very happy with the results andlack of side effects typically associated with the treatment.I hope she makes a decision she is comfortable with obtains a positive outcome from it. Regards,Matt   Ialso have decided that should I have need, the vitamin C therapy wouldbe my first choice, if the conventional treatments didn't give thedesired results.It sounds like this could be her best option due to the lack of results from the other treatments she has received.As always our prayers and best wishes go for all that walk this path, and the caregivers that match them step for step.Matt   Amynmiami Sat, 02 Feb 2008 00:00:00 GMT  On 1/16/2008 alecssmart wrote:My sister has Stage 4 cancer, squamous cell that has infected her lymph nodes and metasized to groin, some organs, and bone, and her legs swollen. Taxotere, cisplatin, carboplatin, etc,.. are no longer working. Has anyone tried or heard of getting high dose Vitamin C a/k/a ascorbic acid intravenous infusions to stop their cancer? I know there are some clinical reports on it, but wanted to know if anyone has had experience or knows someone who has had experience with it. Also, do u know of any place or doctors in Florida that are familar with the procedure to do it? I am truly sorry to hear about your sister and her status...I lost my mom to colon cancer. We started with the same basic concept that almost every other cancer patient goes through with the tests and the doctors and she did 10 months of chemo that almost killed her off the bat.. I look back now and I wish I would have acted sooner to what I believed in my heart all along..After the 10 months of treatment the doctors pulled me and my father into a room and said, " I'm sorry but that's all we can do, we give her two weeks to live."I couldn't believe it, after all she had suffered and as hard as she had fought, this is all she gets, 2 weeks. Now mind you when she left the hospital after all this apparenttreatment, her tumor had grown in size and was about 60% of her liver. Now, throughout this time I had been doing research and realized so much information.. I always thought cancer was a disease, but it's not. It's a deficiency in one's immunce system in which it can no longer fight off these cells that eventually turn cancerous. So that brings you to the immune system... start there. We brought my mom home from the hospital and that same day I stopped my life took my mom and my daughter and booked 3 tickets to go see a holistic doctor out in Arizona.. . I know it might sound a bit far fetched but it was my only hope at that time and that's exactly what it was... the only choice now is up to the person who has cancer because your life style must change drastically.. because it all goes back to the immune system.. my mom became a vegan and did vitamin c infusions and she also had chemo but not the conventional kind.. it's a very mild low dose of chemo and alot of detoxification of the body... including colon therapy and cleansing... as we live our lives and age our intestines are like pipes.. after years and years they get dirty and clogged and all that is bad sticks to them and stays inside your body.. as you begin to cleanse the body and feed your body all the nutrients that it needs (dark, dark greens) it will begin to change.. I had my mom in Arizona for 6 weeks and in 6 weeks her tumor shrunk in half..something that conventional therapy couldn't do, the only problem is that she wanted to go back to NJ where we lived and that type of treatment couldn't be found there, not to the quality that we found in Arizona... my Mom passed away on valentine's day only because she had had enough and I told her I would always respect her decision.. but she lived a year longer than they initially gave her. I only wish her 10 months of treatment could have been the right one..I use and live by everything that I learned when I was with her.. For someone who is not fighting this it doesn't have to be that extreme but for someone who is.. it's the best and only way.. I hope that any of this info will help you out and go with what you feel cause it's usually the right way and don't delay.. if it doesn't work at least you can say that you tried but if you never try you will always wonder.. and that is something very difficult to live with... good luck to you and your sister.. Lexiheart Thu, 10 Apr 2008 00:00:00 GMT  On 4/10/2008 Lexiheart wrote: On 1/16/2008 alecssmart wrote:My sister has Stage 4 cancer, squamous cell that has infected her lymph nodes and metasized to groin, some organs, and bone, and her legs swollen. Taxotere, cisplatin, carboplatin, etc,.. are no longer working. Has anyone tried or heard of getting high dose Vitamin C a/k/a ascorbic acid intravenous infusions to stop their cancer? I know there are some clinical reports on it, but wanted to know if anyone has had experience or knows someone who has had experience with it. Also, do u know of any place or doctors in Florida that are familar with the procedure to do it? I am truly sorry to hear about your sister and her status...I lost my mom to colon cancer. We started with the same basic concept that almost every other cancer patient goes through with the tests and the doctors and she did 10 months of chemo that almost killed her off the bat.. I look back now and I wish I would have acted sooner to what I believed in my heart all along..After the 10 months of treatment the doctors pulled me and my father into a room and said, " I'm sorry but that's all we can do, we give her two weeks to live."I couldn't believe it, after all she had suffered and as hard as she had fought, this is all she gets, 2 weeks. Now mind you when she left the hospital after all this apparenttreatment, her tumor had grown in size and was about 60% of her liver. Now, throughout this time I had been doing research and realized so much information.. I always thought cancer was a disease, but it's not. It's a deficiency in one's immunce system in which it can no longer fight off these cells that eventually turn cancerous. So that brings you to the immune system... start there. We brought my mom home from the hospital and that same day I stopped my life took my mom and my daughter and booked 3 tickets to go see a holistic doctor out in Arizona.. . I know it might sound a bit far fetched but it was my only hope at that time and that's exactly what it was... the only choice now is up to the person who has cancer because your life style must change drastically.. because it all goes back to the immune system.. my mom became a vegan and did vitamin c infusions and she also had chemo but not the conventional kind.. it's a very mild low dose of chemo and alot of detoxification of the body... including colon therapy and cleansing... as we live our lives and age our intestines are like pipes.. after years and years they get dirty and clogged and all that is bad sticks to them and stays inside your body.. as you begin to cleanse the body and feed your body all the nutrients that it needs (dark, dark greens) it will begin to change.. I had my mom in Arizona for 6 weeks and in 6 weeks her tumor shrunk in half..something that conventional therapy couldn't do, the only problem is that she wanted to go back to NJ where we lived and that type of treatment couldn't be found there, not to the quality that we found in Arizona... my Mom passed away on valentine's day only because she had had enough and I told her I would always respect her decision.. but she lived a year longer than they initially gave her. I only wish her 10 months of treatment could have been the right one..I use and live by everything that I learned when I was with her.. For someone who is not fighting this it doesn't have to be that extreme but for someone who is.. it's the best and only way.. I hope that any of this info will help you out and go with what you feel cause it's usually the right way and don't delay.. if it doesn't work at least you can say that you tried but if you never try you will always wonder.. and that is something very difficult to live with... good luck to you and your sister.. Please look at this problem this way.How BODY after chemo should rejuvanate itself without vitamins and minerals , antioxidants and good organic food???beats me.I have been doing Vit C intravenous for 17 months now. Using only organic food and lots of supplements. My cancer is Aggressive high grade TCC of the Ovary and I know the things were slowed down tremendously by usin IV VIT C 3 times a week 100 grams each treatment.Sounds large dose ? it is indeed. But I produced results. Within almost three years without doing anything I should have been dead by now. Conventional establishment is saying that I have slow growing cancer and that's that. I know I don't ..I had biopsy done and it said High Grade TCC.So my opinion is IV VIt C is toxic to cancer cells. There is one or two things you should know about administering Vit C and have proper protocol from Wichita, Kansas.There are also precautions about conventional chemo and Vit C IV like neuroblastoma patient receiving chemo can't take vit C due to a drugs interaction with Vit C. Otherwise go for it and do not spend too much time asking Q. Vit C is safe to use oppose to chemo.If you can take chemo into your veins you sure can do Intravenous Vit C.Good luck and don't doubt yourself. Much love Elisa.   Elisabeta Mon, 25 Aug 2008 00:00:00 GMT