CancerCompass message board discussion started by Sidney on 5/10/2005 http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,2044,0.htm Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:00:00 GMT Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:00:00 GMT http://backend.userland.com/rss RSS.NET: http://www.rssdotnet.com/ My friend was diagnosised with stage iv lung cancer in Oct. '04. He has had radiation as well as chemo. We did try the cesium chloride and think that it has helped, but we are looking for others that have used it to find out how we navigate long term with it. He has changed his diet dramatically (lots of veggies and fruits--very little fish or poultry). We are trying to follow the guidelines set in the book The pH Miracle, and he does drink "greens" daily. His CEA has gone from 143 to 6.6, and we'll find out if that drops next week. We are hopeful he will have many years. Personally I need to chat with someone that has "been there" and can relate a plan of action. Thanks so much, this has been a tough few months. God Bless. Sidney Tue, 10 May 2005 00:00:00 GMT I will probably start cesium therapy for my sister. I would apreciate as much information as you can give about your treatment. - how long has your friend been with cesium ? - has he chemo simultaneously with cesium ? - what cesium dosage ? - has he taken any others products (DMSO, Potasium,Selenium, etc) - Where did you get the cesium ? Thanks in advance Raul Raul01 Thu, 26 May 2005 00:00:00 GMT Hi Raul, My friend had taken cesium just before starting 14 weeks of chemo and continued the cesium for about 8 weeks of it before taking a break from it. We noticed results within the first 4 days of taking the cesium (before he started chemo). He is currently off the chemo. He is now back on the cesium (his CEA is at 4.4, we are hoping to push it to zero), just started again on Monday this time he is applying it to the skin, where as before he took it orally (3 grams/day this time and the time before). He is taking the DSMO, Potassium, Selenium...as well as Vitamin C, E, A, Milk Thistle, Juice+ capsules, and 2 "green" drinks/day (from Innerlight). He has also changed his diet to many more veggies, fruits, no red meat (a bit of fish, or chicken), no sugar or white flour. Do check online for high pH therapy--alot of good info. He went through Rainbowminerals.com the first time for the cesium, and has now tried Essense-of-life.com We feel the help at both sites is very good. Also check out Cancertutor.com. May I ask what type of cancer your sister has? It's important that she has faith in beating this. My friend is currently biking about 10 miles a day, walking, and has total faith in beating his cancer. I wish you the best. Please keep in touch, I would like to hear how she is doing. Blessings Sidney Thu, 26 May 2005 00:00:00 GMT I too have been diagnosed with cancer back in Aug 2004 - Unknown primay cancer. It had spread to the cervical and thorasic vertebra causing pain which was my first symptom. I have had a biopsy of the are to find the diagnosis and radiation to the vertebra which has certainly helped the pain but continue to have the cancer. I have had a couple of treatment regimens that may or may not be working. I had gemzar and cisplatin for 3 cycles and the cancer progressed to a couple other bone mets but very small. I have a site in the pancrease but did not light up on the last PET scan and and now have swelling in the spinal cord where were I had the first radiation/cancer detection. This is causing some significant difficulty in walking and have been on oral decadron for the last week. This really does not seem to have helpped very much if at all. I have been doing some reading on the cesium chloride and just wondering if anyone has had it work with the bone metastatic site. I noticed that most of the information is about solid tumors. Right now I am taking zometa which helps to harden the bones and xeloda (chemo) 1500mg twice a day. I have planned follow up with my oncologist in July. Am just looking for some alternatives out therel Grandmakar Sun, 12 Jun 2005 00:00:00 GMT My friend's cancer had metastized to the bone in a few places (shoulder, hip, ribs), and the cesium does seem to take care of that. He is also on the zometa. His shoulder before he started the cesium & chemo (cesium will not interfer with the chemo) looked as if the muscle had been completely eaten away, now it looks healthy and padded once again. He will go for a PET scan June 22, so we are anxiously awaiting those results. We started the cesium with the thought of "what do we have to lose at this point". The chemo doctor admitted to him just the other week that in Dec. he had only given him at best 2 months. He has been off the chemo for about 6 weeks (he had 14 weeks of chemo at 1 time per week), so the scan will tell if his body (and the cesium) is fending off the cancer or not. He has gained weight as he lost about 20lbs, he exercises daily (walking and riding his bike about 10 miles each day), he has changed his diet to mostly veggies with some fruit, some fish, no red meat, no sugar, no white flour (Read The pH Miracle, by Dr. Robert Young). Some excellent websites to visit are: Cancertutor.com, Essense-of-Life.com. If you have any more questions I will gladly try to help or try to point you in the right direction. I wish you the very best whatever path you decide to take. We truly believe the cesium has helped tremendously. Sidney Mon, 13 Jun 2005 00:00:00 GMT I would go on line and checkout the research done with cesium at a clinic in Rockville, Md. I'm not sure that trying to follow the book by yourself is as good as it could be with medical assistance. If I remember correctly there were 8 patients administered the cesium and all 8 were helped. Get all the help you can. Find out about this hospital. May God help you be successful in your search. I pray that you will be completely healed. God bless. Faithabc Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:00:00 GMT Thank you, I will research this. Every bit of information helps. God Bless. Sidney Thu, 16 Jun 2005 00:00:00 GMT Do you have the name of the clinis in rockville, MD doing the cesium treatments? Bobsay Fri, 08 Jul 2005 00:00:00 GMT This information was taken from this website http://www.newswithviews.com/howestine/james Dr. H.E.Sartori began cesium therapy program in April 1981 at Life Sciences Universal Medical Clinic in Rockville, Md. Please go to the website. There is so much more info than what I am giving you here. Cesium chloride was given to 50 patients in 3 equal doses of 6-9 grams daily. Supplemental vitamin A emulsion (100,000-300,000 U), vitamin c(4-30 grams etc. Lots more is listed. 10 patients had breast cancer 9 colon 6 prostate 4 pancreatic 5 lung 3 liver more are listed All, all, yes they said all pain disappeared in "ALL" patients within 1-3 days. There is also another clinic I found. I don't know much about it other than the name. Wolfe Clinic. Go to google and type in cesium chloride therapy and there is a wealth of information. We had justed learned about all this and we lost our son before we could try it. Please let me know of your success. I will believe with you that this will be your answer from God. God bless. Faithabc Fri, 08 Jul 2005 00:00:00 GMT Hellfried Sartori did his work at the Rockville clinic back in the eighties. He endedup in trouble with the medical licencing authorities. He now seems to be based in Chiang Mai in Thailand. All the contact details are on the Cancertutor website. I too am researching this treatment and am finding it hard to find reliable information. I am in the UK. I would bemost interested to hear if you have had better success. Deedeecass Sat, 23 Jul 2005 00:00:00 GMT Grandmaker, Is the cancer itself still unknown? Because the treatment and where it presents sounds a lot like the symptoms for multiple myeloma. Planeprint Thu, 18 Aug 2005 00:00:00 GMT That was the initial thought but have found it to be adenocarcinoma. It has been verry slow progression in the lungs. The lesion in the pancreas has decreased in size and the boney mets have remained unchanged. I have devoloped spinal necrosis at the cervical and thorasic region related to the radiation done in Aug 2004 and I can no longer walk without assistance of a walker or scooter. I have had hyperbaric treatments, taking blood thinners and doing lots of praying. Guess one would say the treatment is about as bad as the disease. My disease symptoms resolved after the partial lamenectomy in Aug. Prior to the radiation. Grandmakar Thu, 18 Aug 2005 00:00:00 GMT Hi everyone, I don't have cancer but have recommended cesium/dmso to 6 people. All 6 cured themselves no matter how long they had the cancer or what type of cancer it was. One of the people was terminal stage IV inoperable brain cancer. You found it folks. This one is a cancer killer!!! www.Cancertutor.com. Read all about it. No affiliation. I'm an accountant not a health care person. But I've seen it now 6 times with my very own eyes. I'd ditch the chemo if it were me, but you have to make your own choices. Good luck to you all. Jill Calgal Mon, 16 Jan 2006 00:00:00 GMT Hi Jill, My brother is getting final diagnosis work done next week on probable Pancreatic Cancer. I have done web research on cesium protocols. The missing links are ACTUAL survivors and their story (with some detail). You know of 6. If I were one of the six, I'd be more than willing to share my success with others in need. Can you please ask your six friends to establish some contact with me at --- Message edited by CancerCompass staff: for personal protection, email address removed. Please review CancerCompass Member Guidelines at http://www.cancercompass.com/common/guidelines.html ----? This way I can present an alt to my brother that has some REAL reason for hope. Thanks and God Bless- Don Donapo Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:00:00 GMT Hi Jill, My brother is getting final diagnosis work done next week on probable Pancreatic Cancer. I have done web research on cesium protocols. The missing links are ACTUAL survivors and their story (with some detail). You know of 6. If I were one of the six, I'd be more than willing to share my success with others in need. Can you please ask your six friends to establish some contact with me at --- Message edited by CancerCompass staff: for personal protection, email address removed. Please review CancerCompass Member Guidelines at http://www.cancercompass.com/common/guidelines.html ----? This way I can present an alt to my brother that has some REAL reason for hope. Thanks and God Bless- Don Donapo Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:00:00 GMT My mom was diagnosed with stage III ovarian cancer. She is going to start chemotherapy next week, but me and my dad would prefer to use the cesium chloride treatment before we start the chemotherapy. I am in dire need of information on where to get it, who can administer it, and if anyone has been successful. Please message me with any information or updates. Thank you! Shannal Sat, 28 Jan 2006 00:00:00 GMT Has your friend been cured from the Cesium Chloride? I want to start my mom on it, but I haven't heard any feedback from people. Please help! Shannal Sat, 25 Mar 2006 00:00:00 GMT Hi Jill, I replied twice last week to your message but the threading did not properly get linked to your original message-- soooo I doubt that an email message was sent to you regarding my two original replies to your posting. The support staff properly "re-linked" those two messages today. Please reply to them, my brother is going into surgery on Wed., and I'd like some alt options to present to him for his adjuvent treatments-- thanks a lot Don Donapo Mon, 03 Apr 2006 00:00:00 GMT Hello, Jill (...and/or others with cesium information) I just tuned in to this site and when I read your message about the success your 6 friends had with cesium my heart leaped with joy. I, too, have 2 friends who could greatly benefit from either being able to contact your friends or, if they are relutant, I would consider it a priviliage to be able to contact them. Jill please e-mail me and let's discuss. I want to help make a difference --Lee Higbee Mon, 17 Jul 2006 00:00:00 GMT Hi Jill Did they use the cesium topically or did they ingest it? Also do you know how much they took & what other supplements Thank you Donna Deedee9242 Sun, 27 Aug 2006 00:00:00 GMT Hello, My brother has a stage 3/4 lung cancer and I am thinking using Cesium Cloride for him. What I am worrying about is the congestion during Cesium Cloride treatment. Did You have any problem or how to solve the congestion please let me know. Thank You. Vi Visfsu Thu, 28 Sep 2006 00:00:00 GMT My friend with stage IV lung cancer passed away in Jan. '06. He had several complications, including gall bladder removal surgery, and the cancer spreading to the liver and brain. I believe the cesium helped him although it tends to be an expensive treatment. He did not have any congestion problems. He did use the cesium internally and topically. I believe the Budwig diet to be another great alternative (Yahoo has a great group dedicated to this protocal), as is juicing and eating only raw vegtables. Blessings. Sidney Fri, 29 Sep 2006 00:00:00 GMT Hello Sidney, Thank You for your response and I am very sorry for your friend's news. I am going to look into the Budwig protocal at Yahoo. Thanks. Vi Visfsu Fri, 29 Sep 2006 00:00:00 GMT dear jil thanks for the info,my mum has 4th stage breast cancer and i wanted to start her on cesuium . i have read cancertutor a couple of times im just nervous to give it to her as i live in south africa and no one practises it here ,my email address is --- Message edited by CancerCompass staff: for personal protection, email address removed. Please review CancerCompass Member Guidelines at http://www.cancercompass.com/common/guidelines.html ---- ,i would appreciate it if you could maby give me contact details of people that have tried it. thank you so,so much regards bobby Batman Sat, 28 Oct 2006 00:00:00 GMT  On 9/29/2006 Sidney wrote:My friend with stage IV lung cancer passed away in Jan. '06. He had several complications, including gall bladder removal surgery, and the cancer spreading to the liver and brain. I believe the cesium helped him although it tends to be an expensive treatment. He did not have any congestion problems. He did use the cesium internally and topically. I believe the Budwig diet to be another great alternative (Yahoo has a great group dedicated to this protocal), as is juicing and eating only raw vegtables. Blessings.Sidney, can you tell me what happened between June 05 to Sept 06 to cause you to not post your friend's progress? As well, did you friend experience any of the 'common' side effects from taking the cesium chloride, such as, irregular heart rhythms, diarhea and nausea, and toxification due to high uric acid discharge? What was the actual reason your friend lost his battle? Was it lung cancer itself, or the brain, or a combination?Any information you can give me is appreciated.   Buddyjr Fri, 15 Dec 2006 00:00:00 GMT I got all excited when I first read about cesium chloride and dramatic tumor shrinkage, but I kept searching and found out that the Mayo Clinic has debunked its use in certain cancers and the American Cancer Society revised its saftery information on the Cesium Chloride protocol promoted on the web  to include the following:In fact, several recent case reports have described serious side effect in people with cancer taking similar doses, including life-threatening problems with heart rhythm, seizures, loss of consciousness, and electrolyte (blood chemistry) imbalances in patients who were taking cesium. Full information on the acute and chronic toxicity of this substance is not fully known. Consuming large amounts of cesium could result in nausea, diarrhea, disturbed heart rhythm, loss of consciousness, or even death. Based on results of animal studies, women who are pregnant or breast-feeding should avoid taking cesium chloride supplements. Relying on this type of treatment alone, and avoiding conventional medical care, may also have serious health consequences.I am caring for my wife who is about to start intravenous ascorbate treatments to prevent a recurrence of her ovarian cancer. I wanted to believe that cesium was a magic bullet. We have already begun altering our diet to change our pH with high alkalin foods, but the ACS notes that there is no clinical evidence to support the commonly stated information that  cancer cells are more vulnerable than normal cells to changes in pH.Again, I quote the American Cancer Society information page:There is no evidence that the intracellular pH of a cancer cell is any different than a normal cell or that malignant cells are more susceptible than normal cells to toxic effects of high pH. Thus, the underlining principle behind high pH therapy remains unproven.Believe me, I know how desperate anyone can get when the person that love dearly is  in pain and suffering with cancer.  But I urge you to keep your wits about you and be suspicious when no one can produce a living patient who had the successsful therapy for you to talk to. Check out the IV vitamin C information. Two legitimate organizations are conducting government-approved clinical trials to test/demonstrate its effectiveness.I'm praying that there are scientists at work who are about to discover the magic bullet we all want so desperately. Good luck. May Passover and Easter mark a turning point for us all. Herpartner Sat, 07 Apr 2007 00:00:00 GMT I can produce a living person, who was cured by Dr. Sartori. She had a brain tumor, was termianl and the tumor is now gone and she is alive and well. Dr. Sartori, who saved my friends life, is in prison. Leonora Wed, 02 May 2007 00:00:00 GMT  On 5/2/2007 Leonora wrote:I can produce a living person, who was cured by Dr. Sartori. She had a brain tumor, was termianl and the tumor is now gone and she is alive and well. Dr. Sartori, who saved my friends life, is in prison.Hello Leonora.I am vey happy to read your post. Look like God's message to save my brother.  My brother has brain cancer also and dr told him that he have less than a year to live.  He was treatment by chemo and radiation therapy now. I would like my brother use Cesium Chloride treatment. Would you please ask your friend email me at --- Message edited by CancerCompass staff: for personal protection, email address removed.  Please review CancerCompass Member Guidelines at http://www.cancercompass.com/common/guidelines.html ----  so I can ask her/him the advice how to use ceisum for brain cancer treatment. Please help, I don't want to see my brother die. Thank so lot in advance. Namviet Namviet Thu, 31 May 2007 00:00:00 GMT I have just started a new website to post links of information about cesium treatment and more especially to record the experiences of others with cesium treatment, whether positive or negative.  The site is: http://cesiumchloride.googlepages.com/ .  Please, if you know anyone or you yourself have experience, good or bad, please visit the site and email me with your experience.  It has been interesting as I have researched this that (1) there are very few people who report a negative experience and (2) that there are not more studies done on this subject.  Thanks in advance.  matimeo Sun, 02 Sep 2007 00:00:00 GMT  On 5/2/2007 Leonora wrote:I can produce a living person, who was cured by Dr. Sartori. She had a brain tumor, was termianl and the tumor is now gone and she is alive and well. Dr. Sartori, who saved my friends life, is in prison.Please contact me as soon as possible ,my husband has a brain tumor and we are in major need of cesium protocal info.Could we possibly contact your friend who was cured ?Thank you so much ,please help  josiedo Thu, 28 Feb 2008 00:00:00 GMT  On 6/15/2005 Faithabc wrote:I would go on line and checkout the research done with cesium at a clinic in Rockville, Md. I'm not sure that trying to follow the book by yourself is as good as it could be with medical assistance. If I remember correctly there were 8 patients administered the cesium and all 8 were helped. Get all the help you can. Find out about this hospital. May God help you be successful in your search. I pray that you will be completely healed. God bless.Hi there,what is the name of the clinic? josiedo Thu, 28 Feb 2008 00:00:00 GMT  On 5/10/2005 Sidney wrote:My friend was diagnosised with stage iv lung cancer in Oct. '04. He has had radiation as well as chemo. We did try the cesium chloride and think that it has helped, but we are looking for others that have used it to find out how we navigate long term with it. He has changed his diet dramatically (lots of veggies and fruits--very little fish or poultry). We are trying to follow the guidelines set in the book The pH Miracle, and he does drink "greens" daily. His CEA has gone from 143 to 6.6, and we'll find out if that drops next week. We are hopeful he will have many years. Personally I need to chat with someone that has "been there" and can relate a plan of action. Thanks so much, this has been a tough few months. God Bless.Hi - i found your posting from '05 and am sending this email reply in the hopes that you can provide me on an update on the cesium treatment and how it worked for your friend. My mother was recently diagnosed with nsclc stage 3b and is unable to have chemo due to other health problems. I am hoping that i can find alternative treatments for her. Thanks. fdigior1 Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:00:00 GMT