CancerCompass message board discussion started by marriedsoon on 2/28/2008 http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,21444,0.htm Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:00:00 GMT Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:00:00 GMT http://backend.userland.com/rss RSS.NET: http://www.rssdotnet.com/ my fiance is on stage 3 already and is on his early 20's.. we just found out..he's been on the hospital a lot of times already and the doctors were not able to detect it as cancer. is stage 3 curable? if not..what is the average lifespan? marriedsoon Thu, 28 Feb 2008 00:00:00 GMT Hi I am sorry for the difficulties you and your fiance are facing at a time that should be one of your happiest.I don't know the prognosis for stage 3, but regardless, get more then one opinion.  Research the best combination of drugs because Standard Chemo can be made up of different drugs.  They are all not the same.  If possible, get him into MD Anderson in Houston or other recognized cancer hospitals so that he can get the best treatment available.Best of luck for the two of you!!!Karen, Dallas TX  DallasTX Thu, 28 Feb 2008 00:00:00 GMT My answer would be that stage 3 and even stage 4 cancers are absolutely curable, especially if you look first to nature instead of mainstream treatments. Mainstream medicine has but I would caution that mainstream treatment methods by and large fail to cure anything since all they do is attempt to cut out, burn out or poison out the symptoms of cancer instead of addressing the underlying causes that enabled cancer to defeat the immune system and gain a foothold in the first place.I am not advocating rejecting mainstream medicine so much as saying to educate yourself and see what nature has to offer,  The truth is far, far different than what we have been told and conditioned to believe.Here is a good place to start:Modern Medicine versus Nature in Treating Cancerhttp://www.tbyil.com/MMvsNature.htm My background is this:  I have researched and written about natural alternatives in treating cancer as well as natural health in general for many years and I host a non-commercial internet health group on Yahoo (not plugging it here) where there are hundreds of members and almost 100% success in beating cancer, even at late stages and even after mainstream surgery, chemo and radiation have failed.Whatever you and your loved one decide is best, I wish he and you a long, healthy and happy life. Dquixote1217 Thu, 28 Feb 2008 00:00:00 GMT I am sorry to hear about your fiance' also.  I am also sorry for what you are now going through and will go through in the future.  I am not a dr.  I was diagnosed with stage IV  Laryngial cancer four years ago.I have had three surgeries  I have had four sets of chemo and I'm starting my fourth round of radiation.  I have some metastisis but it has been checked by the chemo/radiation.   There is always hope.  When there is love, all things are possible.  Stay with him to keep him strong.  Help him make decisions but respect that the decion is his, know that he is going to get sick-- angry-- tired-- and have HUGE mood/attitude changes.  Just remember who he was before and what you love about him.  He can make it through and learn to manage and will be able to return to some resemblance of 'normal' I cannot tell you how he will react or what will happen becasue everyone is different.  I lost my wife to cancer two months before I was diagnosed.  She was always positive, always up beat, a real jewel.  I am not like that-- but my kids have learned to cope. He will have a difficult time but you can make it a sweet time, one full of great rememberances when he comes out on the other side of this horrible desease.  To answer your question... Is is curable?  everyone is different and everyone responds differently so there is hope.  If you get an answer you don't like-- ask again-- or ask another doctor.  Be careful of finances.  Don't charge anything on credit cards (they show up negatively on you credit report).  Use your insurance when you can and ask the dr. office to let you pay out the rest,  It will undoubtably put you in a financial hole, but sit down with someone you trust (that is a little further from the situation than you are) and ask them to advise you.Good luck-- Travisdean  Travisdean Thu, 28 Feb 2008 00:00:00 GMT  On 2/28/2008 marriedsoon wrote:my fiance is on stage 3 already and is on his early 20's.. we just found out..he's been on the hospital a lot of times already and the doctors were not able to detect it as cancer. is stage 3 curable? if not..what is the average lifespan? First let me caution you on life spans.  When you research this topic, the information you will find is not promising, however, this disease is often more common in older americans and often is misdiagnosed for a long time which means that the cancer is widespread.  Hopefully you and your fiance have caught is early enough to allow him a strong chance of beating it.  Additionally, if he is of good health he will be able to withstand an aggressive chemo/surgical regimen to treat it.I do not know much about Stage III since my 43 year old wife was diagnosed with Stage IV (March 07) even though we caught it when the stomach tumor was only 2-3 cm large it had already gotten to her liver.  After only 4 rounds of a chemo regimen known as ECF (Epirubicin, Cisplatin, and 5FU) she was in remission (June 07) with no site of the cancer in either her liver or her stomach.  Still, since it was stage IV the decision was made that surgery was not her best option and she continues on chemo today (Oxilaplatin / Xeloda).  My advice is to do as much research as you can.  Surgery may be an option at this time and most research suggests chemo prior to and after surgery if you elect that route.  Also, ALWAYS try to get second and/or third opinions regarding treatment and try to have a cancer center included in that group (ie. MD Anderson, Dana Farber, Sloan Kettering); we have often used information from alternate opinions to finalize our treatment choices. IF surgery is elected, it is important to find a surgical center that has performed this operation often; the researc suggests improved outcomes based on the number of surgeries they have performed.Our thoughts and prayers are with you both.  Remember, this is a war.  Keep him motivated; attitude is an important part of treatment.SincerelySteve BarrettHartford, CT momwithkids Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:00:00 GMT Travisdean,I have been keeping in close contact on this site as my father has Stage IV stomach ca w/ mets to liver and lymph nodes and he is fighting and so far he's still in the game although it's only been since December and it's been a rocky road.  The reason I'm writing to you is I read what you wrote and it really moved me and could really feel what your words were expressing and could tell that you have been through a lot and have a lot of wisdom to share.  God bless you and may he give us all the strength to continue to battle this aweful disease.  Thanks for sharing and I will always remember your words of wisdom. Lila. LSUSAN Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:00:00 GMT Please  be encouraged!!My son was diagnosed with stage 4 stomac cancer in dec.  Keep your hopes up.  It is not Over until God says it is over so keep fighting...What does your Dr. tell you.  Did he suggest surgery.Surgery may be an optioon for you.  Please do lots of reserarch and ask lots of questions when you go for your appointments.I wish you best of luck .Keep us updated of your progress. Jockey Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:00:00 GMT  On 2/28/2008 Dquixote1217 wrote:My answer would be that stage 3 and even stage 4 cancers are absolutely curable, especially if you look first to nature instead of mainstream treatments. Mainstream medicine has but I would caution that mainstream treatment methods by and large fail to cure anything since all they do is attempt to cut out, burn out or poison out the symptoms of cancer instead of addressing the underlying causes that enabled cancer to defeat the immune system and gain a foothold in the first place.I am not advocating rejecting mainstream medicine so much as saying to educate yourself and see what nature has to offer,  The truth is far, far different than what we have been told and conditioned to believe.Here is a good place to start:Modern Medicine versus Nature in Treating Cancerhttp://www.tbyil.com/MMvsNature.htm My background is this:  I have researched and written about natural alternatives in treating cancer as well as natural health in general for many years and I host a non-commercial internet health group on Yahoo (not plugging it here) where there are hundreds of members and almost 100% success in beating cancer, even at late stages and even after mainstream surgery, chemo and radiation have failed.Whatever you and your loved one decide is best, I wish he and you a long, healthy and happy life.Please give me the yahoo site. My wife was diagnosed 2 weeks ago and we are contemplating treatment in China.    Bemba Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:00:00 GMT The Yahoo Group is Oleandersouphttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/oleandersoup/ and the recommended natural protocol ishttp://www.tbyil.com/anticancer.htm and I highly recommend you take a look at the "Oleander Series" being featured at natural news,  The first artcle is:http://www.naturalnews.com/022951.html I wish you the very, very best.  Dquixote1217 Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:00:00 GMT