CancerCompass message board discussion started by saucey on 2/29/2008 http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,21519,0.htm Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:00:00 GMT Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:00:00 GMT http://backend.userland.com/rss RSS.NET: http://www.rssdotnet.com/ Hi! Just want to tell everyone that we are finally having some luck. My father in law has had brain cancer since May. He has been failing ever since.About a month ago we started him on apricot seeds and the b17 tablets. We just got the results back with the latest MRI.  For the first time since this has started the brain swelling is gone and the tumor is starting to shrink. The doctor was baffled,said she has never seen this happen at the stage he is at. So now,we have new hope. saucey Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:00:00 GMT Good morning saucey.....Thank you for posting this wonderful news about your father in law. It will give encouragement and hope to others. I pray every day that more people will come to the realization that there truly IS healing through natural substances that have none of the awful side effects that many traditional treatments do. Blessings On 2/29/2008 saucey wrote:Hi! Just want to tell everyone that we are finally having some luck. My father in law has had brain cancer since May. He has been failing ever since.About a month ago we started him on apricot seeds and the b17 tablets. We just got the results back with the latest MRI.  For the first time since this has started the brain swelling is gone and the tumor is starting to shrink. The doctor was baffled,said she has never seen this happen at the stage he is at. So now,we have new hope. Shemay Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:00:00 GMT Thanks for your reply Shemay. The best part is that this news has given my father hope. My dad was diagnosed with stomach cancer that has gone to the liver and he has been taking the seeds and tablets for about 3 weeks now. I really dont think he truly believed in it and was just doing it for me,but with the news about my father in law I think he really believes in it now,which is great! He was just diagnosed in January so he has not had a MRI yet but I will let you know the results when we hear.His doctor did take him off his high blood pressure pills that he has been on for years. Seems his pressure is normal now.I told him that b17 naturally lowers blood pressure but I dont think he believes me.Since all this started my family has started to take 5 seeds a day for preventive.They claim if you do this one will never get cancer. I can tell you that since i started this the back pain that i always had is no longer there.I know there are many people who dont believe in it but I definetly do. saucey Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:00:00 GMT Hi again....I hope your father will be open to research more about alternative treatments before he makes a decision which path to take for his stomach cancer. When I was first diagnosed in 2004 with a huge tumor in my chest cavity and smaller ones in both lungs, I met a young man who had been diagnosed with stomach cancer almost two years previously. He had used ONLY alternative treatments, diet, supplements etc. and was cancer free. He encouraged me to do lots of research and also counselled me on what had worked for him and what my options were and I too opted out of the chemo that was recommended. If you would like a copy of the protocol I have followed and information about the natural treatments I have found successful such as Intravenous Vitamin C/Avemar etc. send me a private message and I'll get back to you. On 3/1/2008 saucey wrote:Thanks for your reply Shemay. The best part is that this news has given my father hope. My dad was diagnosed with stomach cancer that has gone to the liver and he has been taking the seeds and tablets for about 3 weeks now. I really dont think he truly believed in it and was just doing it for me,but with the news about my father in law I think he really believes in it now,which is great! He was just diagnosed in January so he has not had a MRI yet but I will let you know the results when we hear.His doctor did take him off his high blood pressure pills that he has been on for years. Seems his pressure is normal now.I told him that b17 naturally lowers blood pressure but I dont think he believes me.Since all this started my family has started to take 5 seeds a day for preventive.They claim if you do this one will never get cancer. I can tell you that since i started this the back pain that i always had is no longer there.I know there are many people who dont believe in it but I definetly do. Shemay Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:00:00 GMT Hi again! Thank you so much I would really appreciate it if you could send that to me.I totally agree with you. I begged my dad not to do the chemo. I know all about how bad it is,but my dad is old school and totally trusts the doctors.I think my only hope is that the seeds and the b17 clear it up quick and he will not need many treatments. If it was me I would never allow them to poison my system with those awful drugs.Im lucky i got him to take the b17. I knew if he went into that chemo without it ,he didnt stand a chance.As it was I had to get my uncles and aunts into the b17 buisness because he wasnt listening to me. After they looked   into it they all agreed with me(thank God) and told him to take it. The doctors are giving him about a year so I feel hes got nothing to lose. I really believe that this is going to help him. There is so much information on apricot seeds and b17 on the internet but the one site that really got me into it was apricotsfromgod.com. Its the story of Jason Vale how he cured his cancer and helped thousands of others.Once the FDA got wind of it he was arrested. Now b17 and apricot seeds are banned but you can still get it on line. I believe the reason they are banned is because they know that it helps people.I actually called a few people on the testomonies before giving to my father.The stories are all true.Look into it,its pretty interesting. Jason is actually getting out in May and I plan on going down to new york this summer to shake his hand. If my dad gets better i bet he will want to go too!Anyway,thanks again any info you have will be greatly appreciated!!!                                                                            take care                                                                         Mary saucey Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:00:00 GMT Hello I am so glad to hear that you got some encouraging news. I wanted to ask where you got the supplements? And how many tablets is he taking a day?Also, I have come across some information on MSM and its potential effects on tumors and it might be something to look into for his type of cancer since it crosses the blood/brain barrier. kc1102 Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:00:00 GMT We get them from apricotsfromgod.com and apricotpower.com. He is taking 20 apricot seeds a day and three of the 500mg b17 tablets a day.We started out slow though.The first day  5 seeds and one tablet,the next day 8 seeds and two tablets and so on untill we got the 20 seeds and 3 tablets a day.Each tablet is after each meal on a full stomach with a tall glass of water.The seeds are taken  4 times a day 5 each time.We are going to stick with this for now and see how things go.Thanks for the info we will check it out. saucey Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:00:00 GMT  On 2/29/2008 saucey wrote:Hi! Just want to tell everyone that we are finally having some luck. My father in law has had brain cancer since May. He has been failing ever since.About a month ago we started him on apricot seeds and the b17 tablets. We just got the results back with the latest MRI.  For the first time since this has started the brain swelling is gone and the tumor is starting to shrink. The doctor was baffled,said she has never seen this happen at the stage he is at. So now,we have new hope. Hi, can I ask which type of  Brain cancer your Father-inlaw has? How big was his growth, and which place or part of the brain it in?Sorry but how many seeds a day is he eating,? I ask this as currently, I'm on that mission myself and eating 21 seeds per day.. for an Astrocytoma, in the frontal lobe its 4.2cms and I againts Chemo, or Radio-therapy. Hospitals in Uk are programmed into Radiation for treaments. Anyway it would be nice to get a response from you if you have the time.. hanks   punchdragon Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:00:00 GMT Hey thereThat's just fantastic.  Have you got a link so I can read the story from beginning.  How much vit B in MG is he having a day?  Have you tried any other supplements and how many apricot seeds a day?  This is fab news.  Well done!Clare clarejoanne Tue, 25 Mar 2008 00:00:00 GMT Hi everyoneI'm confused about conflicting reports on apricot kernels/seeds.When I did a search I found quite a bit of shocking info on how poisonous they can be (cyanide) - were you aware of this from watchdog?  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4901132.stm ? Clare clarejoanne Tue, 01 Apr 2008 00:00:00 GMT HiI'm a bit confused as to whether Apricot seeds are good or not good as I've read on cancer research UK, watchdog and the BBC that they are poisonous any more than 2 a day!!!  Due to the cyanide in them.  Here is the article.  it really worried me as I was going to get a load for my mum who has a malignant astrocytoma that's inoperable .....  and I see some of you are thinking about getting them or are already using them ....  what's everyone's consensus on this?ClareHere is the article:Apricot stones sold for health benefits could be fatal in high doses, the food safety watchdog has warned. Apricot kernels are thought to contain high levels of vitamin B17, which is described as an immune system booster and even sold as a cancer treatment. But the Food Standards Agency said they also produce cyanide and can be poisonous in high doses. It is now recommending that people consume no more than two bitter apricot kernels in a single day. An FSA spokesman said there were reports from overseas of "very serious health effects" being associated with the consumption of 20 to 30 kernels in a short period of time. He added: "They could be potentially lethal in high enough doses." If simply eating apricot seeds could cure cancer, no one would be more delighted than us Cancer Research UKNatural food retailer Julian Graves was selling packs with a recommended daily dose of 10 kernels and has since pulled them from its shelves. It said it had begun selling the apricot kernels due to customer demand and would do so again with a revised recommended dosage if the food watchdog gave it permission. The seeds however are also available through specialist websites. Cancer Research UK says of vitamin B17: "According to claims made on the Internet, this substance found in apricot pips is a highly active compound that can cure cancer. "Unfortunately this is simply not true. The whole reason for the existence of Cancer Research UK is to find cures for cancers. "If simply eating apricot seeds could cure cancer, no one would be more delighted than us." clarejoanne Tue, 01 Apr 2008 00:00:00 GMT In response to political pressure, the National Cancer Institute did two studies involving Laetrile. The first was a retrospective analysis of patients treated with Laetrile. Letters were written to 385,000 physicians in the United States as well as 70,000 other health professionals requesting case reports of cancer patients who were thought to have benefited from using Laetrile. In addition, the various pro-Laetrile groups were asked to provide information concerning any such patients.  Although it had been estimated that at least 70,000 Americans had used Laetrile—only 93 cases were submitted for evaluation.  Wonder why??   The reviewers concluded that "the results allow no definite conclusions supporting the anti-cancer activity of Laetrile."In July 1980, the NCI undertook clinical trials of 178 cancer patients who received Laetrile, vitamins and enzymes at the Mayo Clinic and three other prominent cancer centers.   The results of the trial were clear-cut. Not one patient was cured or even stabilized. The median survival rate was 4.8 months from the start of therapy, and in those still alive after seven months, tumor size had increased. This was the expected result for patients receiving no treatment at all. In addition, several patients experienced symptoms of cyanide toxicity or had blood levels of cyanide approaching the lethal range. So, the notion that B17 was banned because it helped people seems a little ridiculous and paranoid.  Doesnt this seem more logical:   it was banned because when held to scientific scrutiny it was proven to offer no benefit and in fact it potentially caused harm. Oncrx Tue, 01 Apr 2008 00:00:00 GMT  On 4/1/2008 clarejoanne wrote:HiI'm a bit confused as to whether Apricot seeds are good or not good as I've read on cancer research UK, watchdog and the BBC that they are poisonous any more than 2 a day!!!  Due to the cyanide in them.  Here is the article.  it really worried me as I was going to get a load for my mum who has a malignant astrocytoma that's inoperable .....  and I see some of you are thinking about getting them or are already using them ....  what's everyone's consensus on this?ClareHere is the article:Apricot stones sold for health benefits could be fatal in high doses, the food safety watchdog has warned. Apricot kernels are thought to contain high levels of vitamin B17, which is described as an immune system booster and even sold as a cancer treatment. But the Food Standards Agency said they also produce cyanide and can be poisonous in high doses. It is now recommending that people consume no more than two bitter apricot kernels in a single day. An FSA spokesman said there were reports from overseas of "very serious health effects" being associated with the consumption of 20 to 30 kernels in a short period of time. He added: "They could be potentially lethal in high enough doses." If simply eating apricot seeds could cure cancer, no one would be more delighted than us Cancer Research UKNatural food retailer Julian Graves was selling packs with a recommended daily dose of 10 kernels and has since pulled them from its shelves. It said it had begun selling the apricot kernels due to customer demand and would do so again with a revised recommended dosage if the food watchdog gave it permission. The seeds however are also available through specialist websites. Cancer Research UK says of vitamin B17: "According to claims made on the Internet, this substance found in apricot pips is a highly active compound that can cure cancer. "Unfortunately this is simply not true. The whole reason for the existence of Cancer Research UK is to find cures for cancers. "If simply eating apricot seeds could cure cancer, no one would be more delighted than us." Well owing to the facts here, all seem to contradict each other, health boards dieticiansthe whole lot,I'd be concerned if someone wanted to blast me with RADIATION, AND I HAVE ASTROCYTOMA, grade two,in my frontal lobe. If UK doctors were friendly, they'd assist in many ways, yet in the last 2.5 years post and pre operation not one suggested a change in diet,or have checked my immune system for deficencies.When you have something like a brain tumor,its not quite like having a growth on your toe, or in your belly. Where it could be reached with ease. I currently have changed diet,and crucially am trying to plus happiness to my life. I take 25-30 apricot seeds, thats 6-7, 4 times a day chewed very slowly before food, say 20 mins.I've been also taking Essiac tea 100mls three times a day. zinc capsules 2x150mg. Shark cartlige capsules 4x650mg b12 2x1000mg vit c 4 x1500mg, kelp 4x225 mg. cats-claw 4x300mg milk thistle 4x175mg. Three table spoons of milled flax seed with cereals, this contains B17 too lots of fruit and fresh veg no mmeat or dairy or sugar quite a lot of green tea, no black no coffee. Been doing this for three months, and still alive,, my seizures not so strong... My tumor is in frontal lobe 4.2cms.. hope that this may shrink the little devil, by next scan... although there is a question mark that b17 needs to pass the brains blood barrier, DMSO may do this and can be found in garlic, aparently tumors hate garlic and a clean body..try to be happy and laugh alot.. hard to do.. but needed.. good luck from Mark    punchdragon Tue, 01 Apr 2008 00:00:00 GMT Congrats! Just wondering how your dad is doing now...my mom started apricot seeds about 3 weeks ago and her ovarian cancer marker CA-125 is down. But I am a bit confused about the dosage. One source said 30 seeds for her weight and another said 10-15 was fatal. How many did your dad take?CancelCancer CancelCancer Thu, 29 May 2008 00:00:00 GMT