CancerCompass message board discussion started by YaYaTara on 6/18/2008 http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,25175,0.htm Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:00:00 GMT Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:00:00 GMT http://backend.userland.com/rss RSS.NET: http://www.rssdotnet.com/ Many of you have listed a vitamin C and B therapies to fight cancer.  Has anyone visited a dietician or consulted with any specialist as to what we should take and what amounts?  Also...what about a juicer (does that stuff really taste good?!) and what if I LOVE sugar?  Of course my health is most important, so I am finally trying to find my way in this world of vitamins, minerals and other exotic herbs.  What is real and what is hype?  Thanks! YaYaTara Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:00:00 GMT On 6/18/2008 YaYaTara wrote:Many of you have listed a vitamin C and B therapies to fight cancer.  Has anyone visited a dietician or consulted with any specialist as to what we should take and what amounts?  Also...what about a juicer (does that stuff really taste good?!) and what if I LOVE sugar?  Of course my health is most important, so I am finally trying to find my way in this world of vitamins, minerals and other exotic herbs.  What is real and what is hype?  Thanks! Hi YaYaTara I can answer some of your questions from my own experience and hope the information will be helpful. Yes I did consult with a dietician and nutritionist who are part of the clinic where I receive my Intravenous Vitamin C treatments. I saw them after testing was done by a Naturopath and also by a medical Doctor who specializes in complementary/alternative medicine. Once my own particular deficiencies were identified then the supplements that were required to bring my inner terrain back into balance and strengthen my immune system were recommended. Of course these may vary according to each individual's own needs so every one should have their own testing done, but some are generally recommended for cancer. Vitamin C is one supplement that is recommended for everyone since all humans have a genetic disease in which they lack the enzyme gulano lactate oxidase which finalizes the conversion of glucose to ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) and therefore need to supplement their bodies with this valuable antioxidant. I personally take 10grams (l0,000mg) each day broken up into five doses and then increase this dosage.... to tolerance, which for me is between 30,000 and 40,000mg if I get symptoms of a cold or flu coming on. I also juice daily. I have eight ounces of organic carrot juice each morning before breakfast and another eight ounces before dinner each night. Six to eight ounces of organic concord grape juice is taken before lunch and an hour or so after dinner at night. I didn't really like the carrot juice when I first started juicing but it has become an aquired taste and now I enjoy it. I really do hate to tell you YaYaTara but yes, SUGAR is a NO NO. That was really hard for me to give up in the beginning since I have always loved to bake and desserts where always the perfect ending to every meal I thought. Not so! I now allow myself the odd small cookie but to tell you the truth it doesn't take long before one loses their taste and cravings for the forbidden things because one's health and sense of well being improve so quickly it makes it all worthwhile. If you would like more information on the protocols I follow, let me know. I am happy to share. All the best..... Shemay Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:00:00 GMT  On 6/18/2008 Shemay wrote: On 6/18/2008 YaYaTara wrote:Many of you have listed a vitamin C and B therapies to fight cancer.  Has anyone visited a dietician or consulted with any specialist as to what we should take and what amounts?  Also...what about a juicer (does that stuff really taste good?!) and what if I LOVE sugar?  Of course my health is most important, so I am finally trying to find my way in this world of vitamins, minerals and other exotic herbs.  What is real and what is hype?  Thanks! Hi YaYaTara I can answer some of your questions from my own experience and hope the information will be helpful. Yes I did consult with a dietician and nutritionist who are part of the clinic where I receive my Intravenous Vitamin C treatments. I saw them after testing was done by a Naturopath and also by a medical Doctor who specializes in complementary/alternative medicine. Once my own particular deficiencies were identified then the supplements that were required to bring my inner terrain back into balance and strengthen my immune system were recommended. Of course these may vary according to each individual's own needs so every one should have their own testing done, but some are generally recommended for cancer. Vitamin C is one supplement that is recommended for everyone since all humans have a genetic disease in which they lack the enzyme gulano lactate oxidase which finalizes the conversion of glucose to ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) and therefore need to supplement their bodies with this valuable antioxidant. I personally take 10grams (l0,000mg) each day broken up into five doses and then increase this dosage.... to tolerance, which for me is between 30,000 and 40,000mg if I get symptoms of a cold or flu coming on. I also juice daily. I have eight ounces of organic carrot juice each morning before breakfast and another eight ounces before dinner each night. Six to eight ounces of organic concord grape juice is taken before lunch and an hour or so after dinner at night. I didn't really like the carrot juice when I first started juicing but it has become an aquired taste and now I enjoy it. I really do hate to tell you YaYaTara but yes, SUGAR is a NO NO. That was really hard for me to give up in the beginning since I have always loved to bake and desserts where always the perfect ending to every meal I thought. Not so! I now allow myself the odd small cookie but to tell you the truth it doesn't take long before one loses their taste and cravings for the forbidden things because one's health and sense of well being improve so quickly it makes it all worthwhile. If you would like more information on the protocols I follow, let me know. I am happy to share. All the best.....HI shemay the information you have contributed to this site has help me a grate deal, with my fight with cancer. Well for one thing I have stopped having any thing with Simple sugars in it. I also now take a lot of Vitamin Bi-O C 4000 mg a day I did what you suggested in the pass and just take a gram of vitamin C at mealtimes Iv really notice a deference I feel better lest pain and  Iv got use to not having sugary foods and drinks., Can you also tell me. if fruit and or fruit juices are the same as having simple sugars in our diet. When you said you have organic Concord grape juice because at the moment I’m not having any fruit or fruit juices but I like to. Cheers Ray jcr65566 Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:00:00 GMT Also, Shemay--where do you get your supplements?  Do you see your nutritionist for them or do you go to Whole Foods or other health food stores? Tomorrow I'm going to start my new way of eating.  I crave sugar and have chocolate every day, so I will have to go through the days detox and headache.  Typically, what is a day or two of your daily diet?  I don't know where to begin.  I love fruits and vegetables, so that helps.  Do you eat bread?  Thanks SO MUCH~~Tara YaYaTara Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:00:00 GMT On 6/18/2008 YaYaTara wrote:Also, Shemay--where do you get your supplements?  Do you see your nutritionist for them or do you go to Whole Foods or other health food stores? Tomorrow I'm going to start my new way of eating.  I crave sugar and have chocolate every day, so I will have to go through the days detox and headache.  Typically, what is a day or two of your daily diet?  I don't know where to begin.  I love fruits and vegetables, so that helps.  Do you eat bread?  Thanks SO MUCH~~Tara Hi again Tara.......this is for you too Ray I get all my supplements from either my Naturopath or my Medical/alternative Doctor. They are almost always cheaper there and I know they are of the best quality. You may find that a cup of coffee will help with the headache you might experience from the chocolate withdrawal. This is not to say there is caffeine in chocolate but there is a chemical that causes a similar reaction. http://www.xocoatl.org/caffeine.htm The Regimen I follow is quite lengthy and when I post it on this board it always comes through compacted and that makes it very hard to follow. It should be clearly defined in paragraphs. Well, I'll post it and take a chance. If you find it too hard to sort out send me a private message and I'll gladly send it along that way. All the best...Sheila ______________________________________________________________ A REGIMEN FOR REGENERATION AND DETOXIFICATION http://www.essiacinfo.org/ http://www.theherbs.info/recipe1.html 1st thing in morning ESSIAC tea-----one hour later 6 to 8 oz carrot juice before lunch----- 6 to 8 oz concord grape juice before dinner---- 6 to 8 oz carrot juice 2 hrs after dinner---- 6 to 8 oz concord juice Last thing at night--- ESSIAC tea-------VERY IMPORTANT ALSO VERY IMPORTANT......Take 2 x 1,000mg natural source Vitamin C with each meal and before bedtime. All juices should be consumed on an empty stomach and should be organic if possible. If you are not familiar with ESSIAC tea I shall send you the recipe for homemade. FOODS TO INCLUDE IN DIET Beverages Herbal teas (green especially good), soya, sesame or nut milks Dandelion coffee Bread Only whole grains, free of all preseratives. (I personally use only Ezekiel Bread 4:9.......completely flourless) Cereals Millet, oatmeal,brown and wild rice, buck-wheat groats, barley, cornmeal and 7 grains. Freshly ground only. Cheese None....NO DAIRY PRODUCTS (except for Budwig diet recommendation...see *****below)) use Tofu (soya cheese) Desserts Fresh whole fruits, fruit cocktails, stewed fruits, natural fruit gelatin, whole tapioca. Sweeten with honey or STEVIA. Eggs NONE-----FORBIDDEN Fat Most cold-pressed unsaturated oils such as canola, safflower, sesame, walnut, corn, soya, avocados. Nut butters, walnut butter, almond butter, sesame seed butter. Fish Fresh water and sea fish, (very fresh) Broiled, baked or poached. Fruits Organically grown whenever possible. Use citrus sparingly except for the Peelings of oranges not the pulp. Fresh fruits, apples, apricots, bananas, cherries, currants, grapes, guava, mangoes, berries, melon, nectarines, papaya, peaches, pineapple, pears, plums,persimmons,tangerines. Meats Chicken, small amounts of lean beef FOODS TO AVOID Alcohol, cocoa, coffee, milk, soft drinks. Any baked products made out of WHITE FLOUR Processed cereals which are flaked, puffed etc. NO WHITE RICE Canned or frozen fruits . All pastires, Jello, custards, sauces, ice cream, candy except those made with suggested health ingredients. Butter, shortening, margerine, saturated oils and fats, cottonseed oil. Rancid and continuously-heated oils . Smoked and salted fish. Fish preserved in antibiotics. NO SHELL FISH. NO PORK. Sprayed and sulfured fruit or canned and frozen Eat ALL foods, as much as possible in their natural, uncooked or undercooked state. Eat only foods that will rot, but eat them in the most fresh state available .*****Budwig diet recommendation.... Before breakfast 2 Tablespoons organic cottage cheese mixed with 1 Tablespoon organic flax seed oil (may also add in organic fruits or spices to make it more palatable) VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! Have BTA testing done by a Naturopath to ascertain what supplements etc. are needed to bring your system into balance. BTA TESTING http://www.chiroweb.com/archives/17/23/05.html Also very important do deep breathing exercises along with meditation and visualization several times a day. Inform yourself about the blood type diet and adjust the recommendations in this regimen to fit with your particular blood type. Shemay Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:00:00 GMT THANK YOU, Shemay.  It does sound overwhelming, so I'm going to print it out and then eliminate those foods (which will be hard for me because I love to eat).  I'm thin, so when I go on the LID before RAI, I lose 10 pounds.  I appreciate the research and experience that you have shared.  How did you find a doctor who will do this testing and filling the vitamin order?  I wonder if there is one in every city?  I'll check it out---thank you, thank you!  Tara YaYaTara Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:00:00 GMT On 6/18/2008 YaYaTara wrote:THANK YOU, Shemay.  It does sound overwhelming, so I'm going to print it out and then eliminate those foods (which will be hard for me because I love to eat).  I'm thin, so when I go on the LID before RAI, I lose 10 pounds.  I appreciate the research and experience that you have shared.  How did you find a doctor who will do this testing and filling the vitamin order?  I wonder if there is one in every city?  I'll check it out---thank you, thank you!  Tara You're very welcome Tara. Just trying to"pass forward" some of the helpful information that others came forward with when I was first diagnosed. Perhaps you can find a doctor or a clinic through this directory http://www.orthomolecular.org/resources/pract.shtml#ca BE WELL! Sheila Shemay Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:00:00 GMT Thanks, Sheila---I'm already checking it out.  I'm trying to "pass it forward" as well.  I will keep in touch and let me know how you are!  (Did you once post that you had 'tall cell' papillary?  Tara YaYaTara Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:00:00 GMT On 6/19/2008 YaYaTara wrote:Thanks, Sheila---I'm already checking it out.  I'm trying to "pass it forward" as well.  I will keep in touch and let me know how you are!  (Did you once post that you had 'tall cell' papillary?  Tara No Tara, my diagnosis was nHl. Shemay Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:00:00 GMT  On 6/19/2008 Shemay wrote: On 6/19/2008 YaYaTara wrote:Thanks, Sheila---I'm already checking it out.  I'm trying to "pass it forward" as well.  I will keep in touch and let me know how you are!  (Did you once post that you had 'tall cell' papillary?  Tara No Tara, my diagnosis was nHl.I don't know what that is?  YaYaTara Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:00:00 GMT