CancerCompass message board discussion started by Hopeful5 on 12/30/2005 http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,3870,0.htm Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:00:00 GMT Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:00:00 GMT http://backend.userland.com/rss RSS.NET: http://www.rssdotnet.com/ My father was diagnosed recently with liver cancer, specifically cholangiocarcinoma. It was discovered after he experienced extreme pain in his side, primarily while he inhales. These pain episodes come and go, although he never feels great. It appears that the cancer hasn't spread, although we never seem to get complete reassurance. They keep running tests. My sisters and I are desperate to find anything to help with his pain/"recovery". The cancer is unresectable and the main tumor is quite large (10 cm). I don't expect a miracle, but perhaps something could improve his quality of life and possibly extend it. He is having the tumor debulked with radiofrequency ablation and then he will have the radioactive spheres injected into his hepatic artery. I have heard excellent reports regarding the spheres. Do any of you know of anything else to help him? He is quite depressed and has lost his appetite. He says that everything tastes strange. This has all come on so quickly - he is 64 years old, has always been health conscious and has for the most part been at a healthy weight. The only thing I can think of as a contributing factor has been stress. Besides everyday work stress, my mother passed away almost 20 years ago from breast cancer and I think that has taken a toll on him. My sisters and I are so worried about him. Any suggestions on alternative or conventional therapies would be wonderful. Specifically, have any therapies worked for any of you or anyone you know??? Have you known anyone that has used Haelan? There is so much information in the Internet, but we don't know who to trust. Thank you for any help that you can provide. Hopeful5 Fri, 30 Dec 2005 00:00:00 GMT View the information at the University of PIttsburgh's Medical Center Liver Cancer Center Website. My father's tumors were too great in number and too large for resection, but after excellent chemo, they were in fact resected. Although 60% of his liver was removed, it regenerated within three months and he is free of growing cancer. Dr. Geller at the UPMC is amazing and does things that many others only dream of. He is by far the physician who, with our oncologist, Dr. Ahmed Ghany at OSU East in Columbus, saved my father's life. Please consult with UPMC and specifically Dr. Geller, if even through email to see if you can get more help. We owe my father's life to these two great doctors. Peace and prayers go with you! Weadocm Sun, 08 Jan 2006 00:00:00 GMT Thank you for your response. I will certainly be in contact with Dr. Geller. My Dad is having surgery and then a radioactive sphere treatment beginning on Wednesday. His doctor said that they have to move quickly or he may not be eligible for the sphere treatment. It sounds very promising, however ultimately it's not a cure. This has happened so quickly that we were unable to get in for a second opinion anywere else (which makes me very nervous), however his surgeon is the 1st in Florida to perform the sphere treatment. Anyway, as soon as he is feeling better from the treatment we are going to go to as many places as possible to get further opinions. Do you think Dr. Geller would consult by records only? I have called a couple other centers and they say that he has to come in for a consultation. Thanks again and God bless you. Hopeful5 Sun, 08 Jan 2006 00:00:00 GMT ...is an amazing man. I think he would do whatever he could to help you! Best of luck. It is horrible to be in that situation with your father - I know. But a positive attitude and being very proactive is key. I'll keep you in my thoughts. Weadocm Sun, 08 Jan 2006 00:00:00 GMT Michelle, Thank you for your recommendation of Dr. Geller and your kind words. We will be sure to get other opinions and it is great to get recommendations from people who know about a Dr. first hand. I am working on getting my Dad's films on CD so we can send them to different centers. Thanks again! Andrea (Hopeful5) Hopeful5 Mon, 09 Jan 2006 00:00:00 GMT Dr Kelley has one of the most successful alternative cancer treatments today. Do you research on him. I know of about 3 people who have been on his program and it helped them greatly. Thedee Tue, 31 Jan 2006 00:00:00 GMT I have not heard of Dr. Kelley. Where is he located? Any additional information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Andrea Hopeful5 Wed, 01 Feb 2006 00:00:00 GMT Go to http://www.drkelley.com/ and you can read the book he written on line. Kelley had pancreatic cancer years ago and he cured himself of it so then he started his cancer metabolic program. Thedee Wed, 01 Feb 2006 00:00:00 GMT I hope your father is doing better. Just wanted to pass on some info: There are many, many wonderful things God has given us to build up the body so that it can fight cancer. Here is some great info that I've compiled for anyone who has cancer. It's work. Just six months ago I was diagnosed with breast cancer metastasized to the live, lungs, bones, lymph nodes, and possibly uterus. I'M ALMOST COMPLETELY CANCER FREE!!! An acquaintance of mine became cancer free in 5 months. Here's a new motto for you: pray like it all depends on God, and work like it all depends on you. The best 2 books that you could possibly get your hands on right now are A Cancer Battle Plan and A Cancer Battle Plan Sourcesbook, by Ann and David Frahm. They will instruct you in many excellent things that you can do to detox, and will give you so much hope, as Ann had cancer just about from head to toe and had battled it for many years. When she finally went holistic, God healed her in a matter of months. The single most important thing that you can do is to keep your body in an alkaline state so that cancer cannot survive. I didn't come up with the information below... there are many pioneers who've gone before us. It worked for them, it worked for me, and it's going to work for you. Should you choose to do traditional medicine as well, doing the things below will build up your body so that you don't get sick from the meds. Over the last six months, I've never been sick in bed or in pain. 1. Get rid of any anger or bitterness. 2. Some type of Psyllium husk fiber blend. It tastes really nasty but you'll get used to it in about a month. While you can also get this in pill form, you might be sick of taking pills pretty soon, as there are plenty to take. If you have trouble finding an excellent fiber blend, let me know. If your local health food store sells AIM brand, I highly recommend it. 3. Organic coffee enemas twice daily until you are cancer free. 4. Acidophillus is necessary to restore the normal flora in the intestines while a person is doing coffee enemas. 5. Barley Green powder. If your local health food store sells AIM brand, I highly recommend it, as all barley green is not top quality, and some tastes a lot worse than others. Again, let me know if you have any problems getting a good brand. 6. Buy a juicer. If you're on a terribly tight budget, get a Champion Juicer or a Jack LaLanne. If you can afford a $300 dollar juicer, get a Green Star. I don't remember how much I paid for mine, but I looked online and got it cheaper. As much as possible, purchase organic produce. You can also find frozen organic berries that will be good enough until fresh berries are in season. Of all fruit, nothing is more loaded with pesticides and herbicides than regular blueberries and strawberries (basically, the smaller the fruit... ). I will occassionally buy conventional bananas, oranges, and tomatoes, but still make every attempt to purchase organic. Soak all fruit and vegetables in a sink of cold water with 1/2 cup of white vinegar for 10-15 minutes and scrub with a good brush. All juicers are not the same, and the quality of juice will vary. Buying a great juicer will be THE SINGLE BEST investment in your health..... better than any supplements that you'll ever buy. For roughly a week, get on a juice fast, rotating carrot juice, apple, and barley green (next paragraph). Juice shouldn't be saved because within 30 minutes, it has lost 65% of it's live enzymes, which is the whole purpose of juicing in the first place. If you must save some juice, have it tightly sealed in a GLASS bottle. There is no question that fresh fruits and vegetable juices are alive with the enzymes that help our bodies fight diseases. Goji, pomegranite, etc.. you name it.... there is no way that heat processes, bottled juice will ever have a LIVING enzyme in it. 7. Organic Cold Pressed Flax Seed Oil. Take 2 tablespoons three times daily. You might find it easiest to mix well in a tiny amount of tomato juice (2 or 3 ounces). While these come in pill form, you'd have to take roughly 36 pills to get enough of it. Again, pray before you take it, and know that this is truly a wonder oil from God when it comes to healing cancer. 8. Also highly important: daily exercise (sweating is important), minimum of 30 minutes fresh air daily, and sunlight. Upon getting diagnosed, I quit every board and club that I was in, knowing that I would really need to focus on learning and getting my health back. On Dr. Lorraine Day's video tape, she states that people diagnosed with cancer should quit their job. When I first heard this, I thought it was ridiculous, but soon found that I could not detox the way that I needed to and work at the same time. 9. 16,000 IUs of an alkaline vitamin C (and only alkaline). This will be in powder form, and you can put it in your apple juice. 10. Turmeric Extract. Everyone's suddenly raving about how great it is in destroying cancer cells. 11. B12 you must take it if you intend to do a vegan or vegetarian diet. 12. Biotics Research Corporation Bio-B Complex (a local chiropractor might have these in stock for you... they must be purchased through a health practitioner of some sort). Lots of it. 13. Biotics Research Coportation Bio-Ae Mulsion Forte (again, a local chiropractor). 120,000 IUs daily. Disregard what some doctors and nurses will tell you... that this dosage is too high. 14. Biotics Research Corporation Intenzyme Forte. Take 3 three time daily on an empty stomach. It breaks down the hull around the cancer cell, helping your body to identify the cancerous cells and start killing them off. While there are many types of protolytic enzymes, this particular brand seems to be the most heavy duty. (Let me know if you want my extra bottle, which I can give you on Saturday if you want. It's will last two months and costs right around $100) 15. Turmeric Extract. Everyone's suddenly raving about how great it is in destroying cancer cells. 16. B12 you must take it if you intend to do a vegan diet until you're cancer free. 17. Kyolic. Supposedly this is one of the best ways to get the needed garlic. 18. Cesium Mineral Salts (1000 mg three times daily). It's one of the most alkaline things that you can consumer, and it's very, very strong stuff. Take it with some food that is acidic in the stomach (pineapple) or you'll feel sick. You must eat foods that are very high in potassium, and make sure that you are taking a potassium/magnesium supplement as well. 19. Filtered water. Very, very important. Drink only distilled or reverse osmosis water, and have a filter put on your shower head. We got a very, very good one for a reasonable price online, and my husband accidentally purchased two. In the event that you don't already have a filter, ask me if you need the website. 20. Exercise! Sweating is great. 21. Get a minimum of 30 minutes of fresh air and sunlight daily. Think of life being 100% raw for several months. That's right.... no dairy, meat, chicken, or fish. Our body pH is the very key to our health. I cannot possibly overemphasize that. If you stick to a raw food diet and get your pH to stay above 7.0 and closer to 7.5, your body will be in an alkaline state (as opposed to acidic) and God will heal your body...this is just a basic scientific fact. God created us so that cancer cannot survive in an alkaline environment. Period. If you forget half of everything that I wrote, remember this: ALL cooked food is dead, and therefore acidic. ALL raw fruit and vegetables are alive with enzymes that are going to build up your body and fight the cancer. While I have read many books and talked to every kind of holistic doctor, I truly feel as though the Lord has confirmed to me that the majority of the time, it is not in his perfect will for people to die of cancer. People are truly dying because of lack of knowledge.... they are showing up at their oncologist office and just saying, "Give me the pills, doc." They are not taking the time to learn, and even if the cancer goes into remission, it comes back when people do not completely change their eating habits and what they allow into their environment. (I'll send another email later with ozone information and 2 holistic doctors that you may want to see.) As much as possible, eat raw broccoli & cauliflower, raw cabbage, watermelon, oranges. Each night, soak 10 almonds in distilled water (or reverse osmosis water) so that they will be easier to digest. You really need to eat them the next day, as they do not keep well once you soak them. Almonds are the only alkaline nut. I also suggest that you read Matthew, Mark, Luke, & John in the New Testament. Organic herbal teas, like ginger and dandelion, are great. Drink plenty of them There is one more important thing to do... set a goal. I believe that it is most effective to pick a date to work towards where you will be cancer free. Write the date down and put it in a place where you have to look at it daily... even several times a day. For myself, I somehow happened to pick 6 months. Another gal in Franklin who sees Dr. Rawdon had stage IV breast cancer w/ mets to the bones and was cancer free in 5 months. Like I said... you just pick a date. As part of your detoxing, do not allow negative things into your mind, including nearly everything that's on TV. If you need to stop people in the middle of their story (about their aunt who beat cancer and lived 5 years, etc.) don't feel as though you need to justify it. Just say, "Please don't tell me that story right now. As often as possible, find beautiful things/pictures, things that make you laugh, etc. And don't let people annoy the heck out of you with their sympathy. Just tell them to stop it, because you're going to be fine; you just have some work to do. "I shall not die, but live and declare the works of the Lord!" Irisd Sun, 12 Mar 2006 00:00:00 GMT Hi there, first of all thank you for sharing and posting your info. It has been very inspirational for me. My father has been diagnosed with locally advanced gall bladder cancer. We have opted for Homeopathic remedies. The doctor has also given him green powder alongwith his remedies. With green powder my father is vomitting it out. Would you suggest how to take it. My mom has tried with juice and water. Secondly he has no interest in eating, do you have any suggestions. He has lost considerable weight. He is also I think quite anemic as he gets breathless. We are seeing oncologist shortly to know prognosis and options. Thank you and I look forward to hearing from you. Rukshi Rukshi Wed, 03 May 2006 00:00:00 GMT i talked to you yesterday on the phone.you were gonna send me some information about dr. geller.i tried to e-mail you, it didnt go through.my e-mail addy is --- Message edited by CancerCompass staff: for personal protection, email address removed. Please review CancerCompass Member Guidelines at http://www.cancercompass.com/common/guidelines.html ---- you said your father took 3 different types of medications to shrink his tumor.could you please send me the names of the medications.also send me the e-mail to dr. geller.i couldnt find it on the website. Lookin4help Wed, 14 Jun 2006 00:00:00 GMT  On 3/12/2006 Irisd wrote:I hope your father is doing better. Just wanted to pass on some info: There are many, many wonderful things God has given us to build up the body so that it can fight cancer. Here is some great info that I've compiled for anyone who has cancer. It's work. Just six months ago I was diagnosed with breast cancer metastasized to the live, lungs, bones, lymph nodes, and possibly uterus. I'M ALMOST COMPLETELY CANCER FREE!!! An acquaintance of mine became cancer free in 5 months. Here's a new motto for you: pray like it all depends on God, and work like it all depends on you. The best 2 books that you could possibly get your hands on right now are A Cancer Battle Plan and A Cancer Battle Plan Sourcesbook, by Ann and David Frahm. They will instruct you in many excellent things that you can do to detox, and will give you so much hope, as Ann had cancer just about from head to toe and had battled it for many years. When she finally went holistic, God healed her in a matter of months. The single most important thing that you can do is to keep your body in an alkaline state so that cancer cannot survive. I didn't come up with the information below... there are many pioneers who've gone before us. It worked for them, it worked for me, and it's going to work for you. Should you choose to do traditional medicine as well, doing the things below will build up your body so that you don't get sick from the meds. Over the last six months, I've never been sick in bed or in pain. 1. Get rid of any anger or bitterness. 2. Some type of Psyllium husk fiber blend. It tastes really nasty but you'll get used to it in about a month. While you can also get this in pill form, you might be sick of taking pills pretty soon, as there are plenty to take. If you have trouble finding an excellent fiber blend, let me know. If your local health food store sells AIM brand, I highly recommend it. 3. Organic coffee enemas twice daily until you are cancer free. 4. Acidophillus is necessary to restore the normal flora in the intestines while a person is doing coffee enemas. 5. Barley Green powder. If your local health food store sells AIM brand, I highly recommend it, as all barley green is not top quality, and some tastes a lot worse than others. Again, let me know if you have any problems getting a good brand. 6. Buy a juicer. If you're on a terribly tight budget, get a Champion Juicer or a Jack LaLanne. If you can afford a $300 dollar juicer, get a Green Star. I don't remember how much I paid for mine, but I looked online and got it cheaper. As much as possible, purchase organic produce. You can also find frozen organic berries that will be good enough until fresh berries are in season. Of all fruit, nothing is more loaded with pesticides and herbicides than regular blueberries and strawberries (basically, the smaller the fruit... ). I will occassionally buy conventional bananas, oranges, and tomatoes, but still make every attempt to purchase organic. Soak all fruit and vegetables in a sink of cold water with 1/2 cup of white vinegar for 10-15 minutes and scrub with a good brush. All juicers are not the same, and the quality of juice will vary. Buying a great juicer will be THE SINGLE BEST investment in your health..... better than any supplements that you'll ever buy. For roughly a week, get on a juice fast, rotating carrot juice, apple, and barley green (next paragraph). Juice shouldn't be saved because within 30 minutes, it has lost 65% of it's live enzymes, which is the whole purpose of juicing in the first place. If you must save some juice, have it tightly sealed in a GLASS bottle. There is no question that fresh fruits and vegetable juices are alive with the enzymes that help our bodies fight diseases. Goji, pomegranite, etc.. you name it.... there is no way that heat processes, bottled juice will ever have a LIVING enzyme in it. 7. Organic Cold Pressed Flax Seed Oil. Take 2 tablespoons three times daily. You might find it easiest to mix well in a tiny amount of tomato juice (2 or 3 ounces). While these come in pill form, you'd have to take roughly 36 pills to get enough of it. Again, pray before you take it, and know that this is truly a wonder oil from God when it comes to healing cancer. 8. Also highly important: daily exercise (sweating is important), minimum of 30 minutes fresh air daily, and sunlight. Upon getting diagnosed, I quit every board and club that I was in, knowing that I would really need to focus on learning and getting my health back. On Dr. Lorraine Day's video tape, she states that people diagnosed with cancer should quit their job. When I first heard this, I thought it was ridiculous, but soon found that I could not detox the way that I needed to and work at the same time. 9. 16,000 IUs of an alkaline vitamin C (and only alkaline). This will be in powder form, and you can put it in your apple juice. 10. Turmeric Extract. Everyone's suddenly raving about how great it is in destroying cancer cells. 11. B12 you must take it if you intend to do a vegan or vegetarian diet. 12. Biotics Research Corporation Bio-B Complex (a local chiropractor might have these in stock for you... they must be purchased through a health practitioner of some sort). Lots of it. 13. Biotics Research Coportation Bio-Ae Mulsion Forte (again, a local chiropractor). 120,000 IUs daily. Disregard what some doctors and nurses will tell you... that this dosage is too high. 14. Biotics Research Corporation Intenzyme Forte. Take 3 three time daily on an empty stomach. It breaks down the hull around the cancer cell, helping your body to identify the cancerous cells and start killing them off. While there are many types of protolytic enzymes, this particular brand seems to be the most heavy duty. (Let me know if you want my extra bottle, which I can give you on Saturday if you want. It's will last two months and costs right around $100) 15. Turmeric Extract. Everyone's suddenly raving about how great it is in destroying cancer cells. 16. B12 you must take it if you intend to do a vegan diet until you're cancer free. 17. Kyolic. Supposedly this is one of the best ways to get the needed garlic. 18. Cesium Mineral Salts (1000 mg three times daily). It's one of the most alkaline things that you can consumer, and it's very, very strong stuff. Take it with some food that is acidic in the stomach (pineapple) or you'll feel sick. You must eat foods that are very high in potassium, and make sure that you are taking a potassium/magnesium supplement as well. 19. Filtered water. Very, very important. Drink only distilled or reverse osmosis water, and have a filter put on your shower head. We got a very, very good one for a reasonable price online, and my husband accidentally purchased two. In the event that you don't already have a filter, ask me if you need the website. 20. Exercise! Sweating is great. 21. Get a minimum of 30 minutes of fresh air and sunlight daily. Think of life being 100% raw for several months. That's right.... no dairy, meat, chicken, or fish. Our body pH is the very key to our health. I cannot possibly overemphasize that. If you stick to a raw food diet and get your pH to stay above 7.0 and closer to 7.5, your body will be in an alkaline state (as opposed to acidic) and God will heal your body...this is just a basic scientific fact. God created us so that cancer cannot survive in an alkaline environment. Period. If you forget half of everything that I wrote, remember this: ALL cooked food is dead, and therefore acidic. ALL raw fruit and vegetables are alive with enzymes that are going to build up your body and fight the cancer. While I have read many books and talked to every kind of holistic doctor, I truly feel as though the Lord has confirmed to me that the majority of the time, it is not in his perfect will for people to die of cancer. People are truly dying because of lack of knowledge.... they are showing up at their oncologist office and just saying, "Give me the pills, doc." They are not taking the time to learn, and even if the cancer goes into remission, it comes back when people do not completely change their eating habits and what they allow into their environment. (I'll send another email later with ozone information and 2 holistic doctors that you may want to see.) As much as possible, eat raw broccoli & cauliflower, raw cabbage, watermelon, oranges. Each night, soak 10 almonds in distilled water (or reverse osmosis water) so that they will be easier to digest. You really need to eat them the next day, as they do not keep well once you soak them. Almonds are the only alkaline nut. I also suggest that you read Matthew, Mark, Luke, & John in the New Testament. Organic herbal teas, like ginger and dandelion, are great. Drink plenty of them There is one more important thing to do... set a goal. I believe that it is most effective to pick a date to work towards where you will be cancer free. Write the date down and put it in a place where you have to look at it daily... even several times a day. For myself, I somehow happened to pick 6 months. Another gal in Franklin who sees Dr. Rawdon had stage IV breast cancer w/ mets to the bones and was cancer free in 5 months. Like I said... you just pick a date. As part of your detoxing, do not allow negative things into your mind, including nearly everything that's on TV. If you need to stop people in the middle of their story (about their aunt who beat cancer and lived 5 years, etc.) don't feel as though you need to justify it. Just say, "Please don't tell me that story right now. As often as possible, find beautiful things/pictures, things that make you laugh, etc. And don't let people annoy the heck out of you with their sympathy. Just tell them to stop it, because you're going to be fine; you just have some work to do. "I shall not die, but live and declare the works of the Lord!"  robynfife Sat, 18 Oct 2008 00:00:00 GMT