CancerCompass message board discussion started by Its me on 1/15/2006 http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,4077,0.htm Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:00:00 GMT Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:00:00 GMT http://backend.userland.com/rss RSS.NET: http://www.rssdotnet.com/ My question is why don't drs. tell my husband what he should and should not eat? They have no problem suggesting chemo and other dangerous treatments but don't look to them to tell you how you are to take care of yourself in the interim. No info on exercise etc.- Is their course of action for the patient to just live on what meds they give you and not seek any other alternative? My husband is doing great and looking even better. I have been doing research via the internet and I really believe that is part of what is saving his life. He is on a regimen of IP6 with Inositol, Silymarin Milk Thistle and green tea with Maitake D fraction. It works for him and he's in stage 4 and moving better than me. Go figure!! Its me Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:00:00 GMT Its partly because they don't know and partly because they don't want to know. They don't make money off of people eating right and allowing their bodies to heal naturally. Its very sad really. Amom2seven Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:00:00 GMT Yes,it is sad that our doctors don't take time or interest in helping us do better while fighting cancer. However, it's up to each individual to seek the help from a doctor who DOES give them the time, attention and advice they need to feel better while under their care. I had an oncologist who "went by the book" with chemo treatments...but had absolutely nothing to say about my diet or exercise. I asked around and found another oncologist, in the same office, who DOES believe in nutrition, supplements and keeping our bodies active while fighting cancer. It didn't take me long to switch oncologists! I also found a "Wellness Place" nearby that has various programs aimed at helping cancer patients to live as well as they can while undergoing chemo. One of the programs is to have a licensed nutitionist come and speak about guidlines for eating healthy during chemo, and to offer their services for meal planning, etc. Onlylady Mon, 23 Jan 2006 00:00:00 GMT What the medical industry doesn't want you to know is there are four things which cause disease. All disease is caused by one or more of these four things, and medicine doesn't treat any of them. If none of these conditions are chronically present, a person will never get sick. They are: Toxins, Poor nutrition, electromagnetic radiation, and stress. Here is how it works. As we age, the liver gets full of toxins. No doctor will ever tell you about doing a liver cleanse because filthy livers usually only cause chronic illness. This turns a patient into a cash cow. All sorts of illnesses, and strange, unexplainable symptoms come from toxins not being eliminated from the body due to a dirty liver. As toxins build up in the liver, they build up everywhere else in the body. This causes stress. What a healthy person can handle, a poisoned person finds stressful. There are so many environmental contaminants it is impossible to stay away them. You can reduce your exposure, though. Do not eat anything from a can, that is packaged frozen, or processed. All heart disease is due to toxin damage by trans fats in processed foods. All cancer is due to toxins and radiation exposure. A great way to cleanse the body, by cleansing the liver, is coffee enemas. Coffee enemas up to three times per day will flush the carcinogenic toxins out of the body. It takes about two weeks to clean everything out, and in smokers residue will remain in the lungs after years of doing coffee enemas. If you have cancer, do coffee enemas. Here is how you do it. Get a 40 oz., or so, enema rig. It is a bucket with a long tube attached. Get some olive oil in a small glass. Just a tiny bit of olive oil for the enema tube. Boil 4 1/2 tablespoons of coffee in 24 ounces of water, for 20 minutes. Strain into a decanter, and dispense the coffee into the enema bucket. Lubricate the enema tube with olive oil about 6 inches. Insert the tube into the rectum about 4-6 inches. After the coffee has drained out, wait ten minutes, if you can, and then sit on the toilet. This releases all the bile stored in the liver. With the bile comes all the toxins in your liver. Then you liver is free to fill up again with toxins that leach out of body tissues. In the end, you have a nice clean body. Colonic cleansing is also important. You have to see a colonic specialist for this, and it takes about an hour. Cleansing of the lymphatic system can be done by showering with a scotchbrite pad. You don't really scrub with it, you just get it full of soap; really, really full of soap, and wipe it all over your whole body; face too. Not to hard, though. You don't want to get hurt. Scrub hairy areas well. This is like sitting in a sauna. Your skin is so deep clean. I hope the f.d.a doesn't ban scotchbrite pads. Without all the toxins there is much less stress on the body. Good nutrition will help cleanse, which is an ongoing process. You take in toxins every day, and you body actually produces them, too. Supplemental nutrition is a must for everyone. Vitamist is line of spray vitamins and minerals. It costs between 50-100.00 to supply yourself. These supplemments are bioavailable, because they bypass the digestive tract, and enter straight into the blood stream via spraying them under the tongue. About 40 sprays a day is correct to get that edge winners have. Winners do not have disease. About 120 sprays per day is good for cancer patients. The most nutritious food is fresh juiced vegetables. Anyone with illness should be consuming 8 8 oz. glasses of fresh juiced vegetables per day. These should be organically grown vegetables. Make only 2-3 glasses of juice at a time. That way it stays fresh. You want fresh. You wind up using a lot more vegetables and time making juice by the gallon. Smokers will especially want to drink fresh juiced vegetables. Most people start out with an inexpensive juicer, and quickly advance to a Green Star juicer. With Green Star, the juice is pressed out, instead of shredding the vegetables. This makes a superior quality juice, perfect for fighting cancer. Mix with 16 oz. sugar soda without caffeine, like root beer. Do not smoke if you have cancer. This really makes it tough to fight all forms of cancer. There are a lot of toxins in cigarettes. People take in their recommended daily allowance of toxins even without smoking. So, if you quit, you won't have to take tar supplements. Water is important. Even though water is responsible for more property damage than any other single thing in the history of creation, a good clean supply of it helps fight disease. Some tap water is very pure, but a water cooler is necessary to recover from cancer. Medical doctors are indoctrinated to actually be the cause of disease, rather than the cure. Through gross neglect of patients, arrogance, and being viewed as gods by the public; medical doctors have increased illness 300 fold since 1910. Doctors never strike. You ever wonder why? Because, they did strike once. In New York City the death rate plummeted below all time lows when the doctors went on strike. More doctors means more death. This is the goal of medical doctor: To induce illness through ignorance or neglect, and then cover up the symptoms with patentable drugs. The f.d.a has even gone so far as to release a report that drug effectiveness decreases when a patent runs out on it. Doctors cure nothing. Double blind research data, also known as medical indoctrination papers, have nothing at all to do with healing. That is because healing requires a three tiered approach. Let me say a word about electromagnetic radiation. This is a contributing factor to all disease. It comes from power lines, television and radio broadcast towers, cellular phones and towers, paging services, sattelites, electric motors, microwave ovens, computer monitors, and a whole host of other sources. The radiation alone cannot harm you except in extremely high intensities you would never experience as a consumer. The problem comes in with electromagnetic choas. This is constantly changing electromagnetic radiation. When you go from a crowded city to the countryside every day, or live near heavy amperage power lines, this creates a disease state. Usually your body can handle this, but in combination with other factors, this can be a contributor to illness. Avoid electromagnetic chaos if you have cancer. The three tiered approach to healing involves body, mind, and spirit. If you don't heal all of them, you heal none of them. The spiritual healing comes in confessing your sins to Jesus Christ. I'm not a Jesus freak, but I have seen the power from this God. It is incredible. The healing potential is unlimited with Jesus Christ. You can find out about Him in The Holy Bible. You will definiately want some people praying for you if you have cancer, so join a church. It doesn't matter which church, just stay away from sin when you go there, and all the time. Mind healing involves replacing deceit with truth. Many people were raised by parents, or have spouses who fooled them into thinking they are worthless. This deceit causes disease. If you have problems with treating others well, treating yourself well, or with sin, you probably want to get some counseling. Jesus cares more that you know the truth about yourself, so you can know the Truth about Him, than about your wretched fallen flesh. If you learn the truth, you can keep your wretched fallen flesh for a while. The body is the physical body, which stays harmonious with a good heart. If you always want to do things for others, but never for yourself, you might just get cancer. If you take on burdens for others, but never reach out for help for yourself, you might just get cancer. If you are a reckless sinner, engaging in every form of evil, Satan wil keep you alive long enough for all your relatives to die, and you to be left totally alone. Then Satan will ask God if Satan can destroy your flesh. If there is no other hope of saving your soul, God will agree. God is willing to have you lose your body to save your soul from any more damage. If your heart is pure, the rest of your body is pure. If you view God's creation with total purity, you will recover. If the mind knows truth, the heart knows love, and the soul has been forgiven, all you have to do is cure the cancer. Essiac tea works for that. Brew the tea, and get it from the UK, not Canada. Coupled with everything else in this paper, oh, and BHT. Look it up in a search engine. Go to vrp.com. "BHT" 3 capsules per day for the first week of liver cleansing. Don't forget. Those first toxins burn coming out if you forget the BHT. Eliminate toxins, get extra nutrients including bioavailable spray supplements by Vitamist, decrease stress, and stay away from electromagnetic chaos. If you are successful at these things you will recover. Thomas L Kayser M.D. Awesomemachine Thu, 26 Jan 2006 00:00:00 GMT Doctors receive very little education on nutrition, therefore, they prescribe what they are taught: drugs or surgery. I have had a pancreatic tumor and metatastic liver cancer, but am now cancer-free. I've done a lot of research on how to beat cancer and the answer seems to be good nutrition and exercise. I'm a firm believer that the earth provided us with the tools we need to heal ourselves, because that is what the body is designed to do, if treated correctly. I walk daily, get lots of rest, drink green or black tea daily, and take a nutritional supplement called Ambrotose. (It is comprised of ingredients from vine ripened fruits and vegetables, colostrum, and aloe.) Most of our produce is no longer vine-ripened so we don't get the nutrients we need. Doctors don't believe this, though. Check out the website Glycoscience.org. It explains our nutritional needs better than I can. Kimgee65 Thu, 02 Feb 2006 00:00:00 GMT Hello: I am so happy for you to be cancer free. I wondered if you took chemotherapy along with the Ambrotose ? Also, did you have Adenocarcinoma ? My husband had metastatic colon cancer that had gone to his liver and he took chemo. along with Ambrotose and Phytaloe. Maybe he did not take it regularly enough or enough of it. I had to force him to swallow the stuff in orange juice. He lived about a year after diagnosis. I wonder how much you take and how often and what you put it in ....maybe i should start back up with it before i get the dreaded cancer too. Good luck to you ! 4roses Thu, 02 Feb 2006 00:00:00 GMT Hi, I did not have chemo. I had a large pancreatic tumor that had spread to my liver. Most of my pancreas was removed and I had several procedures done on my liver including surgery and radiological procedures, but my doctors felt that chemo would only make me sicker. They were basically running out of options. Ambrotose must be taken EVERY DAY, or the cell regeneration process has to start over every time. When I was dealing with the cancer, I was taking 1/2 tsp. 3x a day. Now I take what is recommended, which is 1/4 tsp. 2x a day. I've been told if you have any type of disease, you should take up to 2tbsp. a day until results are seen. I'm in great health now and I have my mom, kids and husband all taking glyconutrient vitamins hoping that no one else in my family will have to go through any serious illness. I mix my Ambrotose with cranberry juice, orange juice or flavored black tea and I don't really notice it. There are a lot of people including doctors who say it doesn't really work, but I can only speak from personal experience when I say that it does! Kimgee Sat, 04 Feb 2006 00:00:00 GMT HI Kimgee I was diagnosed with Essential thrombocythemia this weeks. I do not feel ill and my count is 693 now. It has been going up for about 8 years the same year as i had Gallbladder surgery. I am looking for alternative ways to treat this other than Hydroxurea for the rest of my life and it can cause Leukemia. Do you know if accupunture works? I would appreciate any kind of advice. Thanks Maura Maura Sat, 04 Feb 2006 00:00:00 GMT Sorry, but I don't have any experience with accupunture. You may want to try the alternative treatments message board on this site. I'm sure there is someone out there who has tried it. Kimgee Sun, 05 Feb 2006 00:00:00 GMT I'm just wondering how you knew what for him to take? I was diagnosed with stage IV colorectal cancer with a resection on aug 8 2005 and have had 10 rounds of chemo with 2 more to go. I am believeing God for a total healing. So far it's going away. They say scientifically and medically it can never go completely away but I know with God all things are possible. I'm believeing HIS report over the Dr.'s report. I would like to know where to find out what kinds of vitamins to take and stuff. Thanks for any info. Kathy Fancy7439 Sat, 11 Feb 2006 00:00:00 GMT A friend and I, at a health food store where there was a gentleman that was telling the owner that he had been diagnosed with incurable lung cancer,(they sent him home to die) and someone recommended the IP6 to him. He began to take it, and at that time was in remission. He did not say how long he took it and since that was, I guess about 2 yrs. ago, we don't know his status now but at that particular time , he was doing well. My husband is not taking the IP6 with Inositol alone, he is using the other supplements mentioned also. I do believe that they are what is keeping him in good spirits and allowing the very, very strong chemo to do what it has to do. He still looks well as our friends have attested to. Hopefully, these comments will help you too. Its me Sat, 11 Feb 2006 00:00:00 GMT Remember cancer cells are sugar junkies so I agree except NO sugar soda Gbminfoseeker Tue, 14 Feb 2006 00:00:00 GMT hello there. My sister has breast cancer met. to the liver...her doctor advised her to eat lots of hamburger and i asked the doctor...isn't it dangerous? He told me it's ok, if she gets fat...then that is the right to give her a proper diet...but i really don't agree with it.She had her chemo before then it recurred to the liver...now, she's having chemo the second time around. She had her 3rd session and always we end up in the hospital bec. of side effects. i am really sad and stressed out because i can see how her body has been devastated by the chemotherapy. Last time she defacates bright red blood est. total is 100 cc.got stomach distension, yellowish skin and eyes, mouth sores and weight loss. Please i really need ur advice. Thank u very much and more power Spring Spring_in_the_desert Fri, 17 Feb 2006 00:00:00 GMT I've never heard of eating lots of hamburger as a nutritionally sound way to deal with cancer, chemo or anything. You may want to post your message on the liver cancer message board and see if anyone has heard of it or anything like it. Kimgee Sat, 18 Feb 2006 00:00:00 GMT after reading several books on cancer nutrition the BEST juicer is the VITA MIX one book recommend it over all other juicers juice + fiber for water i use a open water distiller like the "living water" machine to remove all impurities also use an energy pitcher to energise the water and have started making my own colodial siver water used to computer and have found a lot of nutrition information Goldpan Fri, 07 Apr 2006 00:00:00 GMT Hi Tom, I just read you message, and I would like to say thank you for taking the time and telling everyone who reads this page all the knowledge you have. I happen to believe in the things you say, although I never heard of coffee/liver, but i have read about all the cleanses. I am working myself into a new stat of mind, and I am trying to do a lot of the thing you mentioned. I just wanted to ask you, have you read any of Kevin Trudeau's books? I would be interested to hear what you have to say, Thank you again for caring about other people, Lillian Roy915 Sat, 29 Apr 2006 00:00:00 GMT You have a very unique approach for a M.D. I wish you would look at some reasearch found on www.pubmed.org type in FUCOIDAN and see some of the research done on this nutrient. Jammor Mon, 01 May 2006 00:00:00 GMT I see a lot of you talking about a lot of ways to beat cancer, through certain foods and things. I suggest you buy the book "Natural cures they don't want you to know about" by Kevin Trudea, I think you will all enjoy it and be pretty a mazed!! so Scared Wed, 26 Jul 2006 00:00:00 GMT Look this article up on the net. You may find a cure for your husbands cancer. There have some good reports on this tea. My son has renal cell carcinoma and no one has lived beyond 5 years with this disease. He is going to try this treatment with the tea. I will let you know how he does. It cant hurt. It is only tea. He is on IP6 with inositol also. So far he is hanging there. HIs metastisized to his lung and shoulders. He had his right kidney removed last Nov. 2005 and he hasnt lost any weight or hair. He is on chemo now. He wants to cure this cancer, not arrest it. The info on Essiac tea says this has happened with patients in the past. We are hoping this will do the same for him. You may want to try this too. Good luck, God bless, S.Crays Alene Mon, 28 Aug 2006 00:00:00 GMT Well, my hubby's health has declined since I wrote that message. He's still on the same herbal regimen along with chemo. His second to last pet-scan showed his tumors which had metastisized to his liver, had shrunk...they did not stay that way. They grew back, why? Because the 'all-knowing' doc. wanted the tumors "gone". Well, that wasn't happening. His last pet-scan showed them back and the chemo he was on, not working. Step #3: new chemo, new side-effects. Today is his last treatment, for now, until his next pet-scan. If it shows them shrunk(en?), I hope he speaks up and says, "enough"!! "Put me on a maintenance regimen, recommend exercise, do something other 'killing me with chemo'"! We'll try the essiac tea, but one question: have you heard of Limu Juice...? I'm trying to find someone who has tried it and found it to be successful on cancer patients especially colon cancer. Thanks for listening, Mrs. R. Its me Mon, 28 Aug 2006 00:00:00 GMT I am going to look limu juice up. My son has been on Noni juice. He is better than he was 6 months ago. But as I said, he is still fighting a lot. Thanks for the info. Shirl Alene Mon, 28 Aug 2006 00:00:00 GMT The only problem I have encountered with the limu juice is that you have to purchase it thru a distributor or become one yourself. Being on an incredibly tight budget, we must watch every nickel that comes in and goes out. If you happen to find a health food store chain that sells it by the bottle, please let us know. We live in southern New Jersey. I was told that an individual in my husbands' circumstances would probably go thru a bottle every few days. That's why I wanted to know if anyone has tried it and found it even marginally successful before we plunk down cold cash for it. Thanks, Mrs. R. Its me Mon, 28 Aug 2006 00:00:00 GMT Mrs R, If you would go to my web site located here: www.ilovetheLord.com/Limu I will show you how to buy this by the bottle or case without becoming a distributor and I can give you several people to talk with that have used it for cancer, Also there is a magazine that will be in book stores Sept. 12 called breakthroughs in health, you can get this at Barnes and Noble and most large bookstores, it is filled with information from Doctors on how it can help your situation. Sid A Sidalex37 Sun, 03 Sep 2006 00:00:00 GMT hello, is pancreatic tumor same as pancreatic cancer ? did you have whipple surgery, chemo and radiation.? thanks Mushroom Fri, 13 Oct 2006 00:00:00 GMT A pancreatic tumor is not the same as pancreatic cancer. My tumor, was very large, but was a self-contained tumor. It had spread to my liver, though, giving me metastatic liver cancer. I had a whipple, but no chemo or radiation. Kimgee65 Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:00:00 GMT Hello, Kimgee is Ambrotrose safe for diabetic and people with cardiovascular disease , atrial fib and congestive heart failure ? It is mainly made of sugar ? Thanks Mushroom Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:00:00 GMT Glyconutients are not made of sugar. They are polysaccharides that your body needs for proper cell function. If you go to glycoscience.org, it explains what they are and how they work much better than I can. They don't interfere with any medication and are safe for everybody, even children. My kids take the Ambrotose vitamins. My aunt, who has multiple myeloma, is also diabetic, and she takes the Ambrotose, as well. I have had blood sugar problems and tachacardia (irregular or elevated heartbeat)in the past, and the glyconutrients actually have helped control those issues. They are equivalent to eating massive amounts of low glycemic fruits and vegetable, roots and plants. Doctors may tell you that they will interfere with medications, but they tell you that because they don't really know and they don't want to be liable. They've also told me not to take them before any procedures or surgeries I've had in the past, but I did anyway. My surgeries were more than successful, and it's never interfered with my medications. I'm actually on about the lowest dose of medication that a transplant patient can take. Kim Kimgee65 Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:00:00 GMT Thanks Kimgee .. Mushroom Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:00:00 GMT you did not say if you rec'd chemomy husband has pancreatic cancer and it has spread to the liverhe is getting chemo in hopes to shrink the tumor and clear up the liveris there hope Sandy5 Mon, 05 Mar 2007 00:00:00 GMT Hi,I think there is always hope.  I did not receive chemo because I had a large pancreatic tumor, not actually pancreatic cancer.  I know there are a l lot of different treatments now for liver mets, but I don't know if the same advancements have been made for pancreatic cancer.  The tumor that I had was surgically removed and the doctors did not feel that chemo would be of any benefit to me, since the tumor was removed and they felt confident that they got it all. I do feel that proper nutrition and supplements will at least extend the prognosis and help the patient feel healthier.  Always keep looking for answers and hoping. Kimgee65 Mon, 05 Mar 2007 00:00:00 GMT Sandy, After going back over these messages, I missed the part of your post that said your husband was receiving chemo to shrink the tumor and to clear up the liver.  From what I understand, the liver won't clear up.  The liver is always regenerating and once it has cancer cells, they too regenerate.  The liver tumors can be treated through other treatments, but my doctors said that chemo is not very effective on liver tumors.  Check on other options with the chemo as well as alternative treatments and supplements.    Kimgee65 Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:00:00 GMT Please be aware that this board may have Charlatons placingmessages. Birdlegs Sun, 08 Apr 2007 00:00:00 GMT The pharmaceutical industry is largely responsible for what doctors learn in medical college. The basic idea behind medicine is to turn everyone into a cash cow that pays off every so often to the medical industry, and only to cover up symptoms, which imprisons people to prescription drugs for as long as they can afford them. There is no credence given to healing. Doctors do not heal people. They cover up symptoms. In the case a patient is healed by some other means, the doctor will take credit, but milking a cancer patient for every last penny they have is much more lucrative than curing him. I know, in the end he/she dies, but the medical industry got all his/her money. That's what's really important to doctors and pharmaceutical companies. If they have to kill you to get all your money they will. People who are on disability from the Federal Government, and the mentally ill are cleansed from the gene pool by medical doctors. A person on disability will be given a course of treatment that hastens death. The mentally ill will be given drugs that make him/her sterile, and cover up the symptoms of his/her illness. It's all about money, and I'm about the last line of defense people have. Awesomemachine Thu, 17 May 2007 00:00:00 GMT